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and reveling in the nature of planet earth. heidi jo, castro al jazeera. ah, no, again, i'm fully back to go. with the headlines on al jazeera, the race is on to find survivors of a coal mine exposure in turkey. more than 100 minus were underground when it happened friday night, at least 28 have been killed. dozens have been rescued, but 15 are still missing. many of their families are gathering at the sites in the black sea town of a mastura. ve case new transfers warning of difficult decisions ahead, including an increase in taxes is jeremy hans 1st day on the job. after british brahman solice stress sites, her previous chancellor and ditch her new government secret make strategy. it is clear that parts of our mini budget went further and faster the markets were
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expecting. so the way we all delivering all mission right now has to change. we need to act now to reassure the markets of our fiscal discipline. officials in nigeria say they're struggling to get food and fuel to areas affected by the worst floods in a decade. more than 500 people have died in about 900000 homes or underwater 27 of nigeria. 36 states have been have national emergency management agency says the disaster is on a colossal scale. russia's president says the kremlin will have drafted 300000 soldiers within 2 weeks and there are no plans for for, for military mobilization. he said he has no regrets about the war in ukraine. just a briskly sure new multi what is happening today is unpleasant to put it mildly. but we would have to face the same situation later in worse conditions for us. that is. so we are acting correctly and on time when you study,
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we do not set ourselves the task of destroying ukraine. no, of course not. there is no needful, massive strikes at least for the moment, for now, as for the future will secret. meanwhile, ukrainian official says, rushing, calling for people to see the care san region amounts to deportation, not evacuation the regions leader appointed by moscow has been urging people to get out saying it's because of daily rocket attacks by ukrainian chokes. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. i'll be back with more news right after inside story to stay with the chinese communist party hold it. 20th congress delegates will need to discuss constitutional change, economic challenges, and phone policy with president gene pain likely to secure at that time. will he be given even power to pursue his vision for the future? fully the story analogies era large parts of ne, in nigeria, underwater,
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hundreds of people have died in the worst flooding in a decade. and the release of water from the dam and neighboring camera has made it worse. so what's been the government's response? this is inside the story. ah hello, welcome to the program i'm tom mccrae. ne in nigeria is seeing some of its worst flooding and years. hundreds of thousands of homes have been destroyed and at least $500.00 people have died across several states. more than a 1000000 others have been displaced. many communities have been cut off and unable to reach out for help. the flooding has washed out. nigeria is food growing regions and flooded its oil. producing nyja delta. the government has issued several emergency evacuation notices,
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but local say they have no where to go. those who survived are becoming increasingly desperate for help. we'll get to our guests in a moment. first started this update from armored address and a number of state and southern nigeria. here in weary conditions for the displeased are getting desperate with just 2 hours to sunset. food is served in this camp. the deficiency now accommodates hundreds of people with food. yeah, it's not, they're not for me for about 3000 people and that is here for a 1000 people. did that one this this soon under will budget for i'm done with the other 2 was she says they haven't received an leave supplies from government. this is floods of ravaged at least 27 of nigeria, 36 state destroying lives, crops, and horns in ridges like a number of his. he tell us that hundreds of thousands of people in several
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communities are still out of rich. nothing has been heard from some of them in nearly a week, and the passengers off a boat that capsized a week ago killing about 9 to people while fleeing the submerged communities in sight of help. emergency agencies had warned of destructive floods this year. but the level of government preparedness was poor. so to was people's response to evacuation warnings that has left victims. lanky jenny, wondering what the future holds? alabama my to my will. mankind image. there's nothing to go back to. if my house is left standing, my animals crops, everything is gone for my kid, you know, what i number is one of the worst affected states. officials say the danger signs have been there yet. the federal government has failed to act. cameroon wants about this. and so we know that every 2 or 3 years this happens, demerell would open up the damn. and then he comes here and wipes off everything. i
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mean it gonna get to a point where the, what i walk, i'm and enveloped entire country. nigerla, fisher say, humanitarian supplies have been distributed nationwide, but that is little comfort for hundreds of thousands who are yet to receive any help from government. at any level, how many degrees al jazeera or torture lays we heard the flooding has been made worse by seasonal rain and plant water release, from a dam and neighboring cameroon. lago damn is in northern cameroon, and was built in 1982. nigeria was supposed to build its own dam to offset the excess, but never finished. it will. every few years water is released from the lago damn and spills into the new river that then floods the river and its tribute trees that flow into nigeria. or even with advance warning the water from the dam. affix 13 flood prone states and nigeria, many of which supplied the rest of the country with grain and oil.
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ah, let's bring in our guests now in the namibian capital vine hook, solomon adama. nigeria is minister of water resources and in a boucher david errancy, a climate activist and renewable energy specialist, a woom welcome to both of you. and just to note, we did invite some one from the cameron government to join us on the show at. but i declined it. david, i want to start with you a festival. you you're there. can you just give us a bit of an idea of just how bad the flooding is. thank you so much for having the show and such a pleasure to be at this time. however, it's not a pleasant experience for those who are currently in nigeria and who are expressed in the impact of the flood. and, and i would say for example, i'm in a blue job, blue job stuff, but the,
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this cost will be for the past couple of weeks after results of the flooding. you go back just some stay some kilometers away from our booge out in the state. you have several trucks loaded with food stuff and produce livestock, which are also stuck on the road. you know, the floating has the impact that's been to complete the transportation of goods and services and people, you know, for one place to be another. you can also talk about the number of the lies on properties and houses that have been lost. you know, the last report i read from post n g, well by hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced on tens of thousands of people have lost their lives as the results are just flooding. and so it's, it's really a terrible way, shawn, it's not one that is expecting to be, you know, and i can tell you that millions of dollars, you know, in terms of services, good, you know, and business activities have been thrown down the drain as
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a result of this flooding situation happening across the mid, about the mid, about some states, some states to benway state to adama law who adored to delta state revise bios that you name it. it just got me bad. i think it's not good at all. yeah. think some of the pictures, the devastation is just so widespread, it's hard to believe and minister. there's more than 500 people a did. over a 1000000 people displace many that al jazeera have spoken to have said that they've simply been forgotten about. so what does the government doing to help them? although we scratch a very devastating situation, my condolences to all the people that most families of most once. and also most life you don't belong is
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it's an unprecedented floods. but let me say that almost on an annual basis, we always much april. we have the middle, the image organization comes out to give a forecast over the climate situation, which is expected to be yes. and i follow, or minister what we, what we call the flood outlook where we bring out all the information on the areas that are going to be flooded. what are the floods have happened? it's difficult to, to, to stop flooding. but at least one is important. but this range, this should have been so. busy president, it well above the fluctuation in 2012 gauge. you know, how we get interested. they are the local office or major where in 2012
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about the, the, the, the, the gets read and that was about it full meters. but as for the to by the judge resist the pension when to, to meet us, which is like 12.5 inches or give me just about 2012 level. so. busy suddenly we haven't been to show you my 1st offense. busy busy damage meant which as much as you know, so g, mamma, i'm sure they are, they'd be the best, but it's to saw what will be the situation. the only area was on the basis of the is where it's all over the country. if you take like the northeast where we have a go or you will be states with florida gym, they're the, they're the what i said is the, just the most remote to the next year. there were also suffered the most to job on
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to process all over the country flood, played all the lessons come alive. and it's quite a challenge, but i'm sure that we'll be doing the best we can be to the, for governments such as the, the show you know, managing the disaster is much, are the ministry. but of course our government. and i'm aware that the nation management agency ministry are the best they can provide soccer. i'm das olivia some of the suffering. okay, david, just really quickly do you think that the government's doing enough people they are on the ground getting enough? so when you look at the actual nigerian has taken and that john government, for example, has sensory integration to discuss it. and how to emmel you where the can read on
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governance are usually in from nigeria about what they're about to needs, etc. water. a lot of that, that is, it's great to know, but what we can mentally have is an infrastructure problem. because if the damn, the house or dancing done that was supposed to be, would have been billed. these, we've got the push on the effect. i give you some few of the 56 about this, this done because part of the reasons where we have disclosing the issue is when the, the, the, what are x is what i thinking from the law go down. i'm going to talk about camera begins to flow through the chip tributaries. i've been out of the niger, but i tell you that did down that was supposed to be built by the 9 john government several years ago. was hard with capacity or support the b 2 and a half times the size of the logwood on which it up easily cushions. the fact i tell you again that it's not just 2 cushion defects of blood and,
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but this also had a number of economic, a couple of ability. one of it was, it was supposed to be able to show that generates nothing less than $300.00 megawatts of electric. and by so doing a show that over provide you to provide a guest services on support for over a 150000 families. and when you look alone day, you understand that this is just the structure that i need to set in place just as me to get flood and also help manage are flooding. actually, water that comes from come a room, but also infrastructure that could be proved. the last by lightning of those people, we've been just region and it's what that that was the plan. so it's not, it's not a question of when we get going by the permission from the commissioner government nemo had confirmed that cameron hadn't even sense. and so my lot, you know, but then didn't read a lot to people who live in,
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i'm going about their business is to have to leave the location. it's not good enough because at the end of the day when the law didn't happen, when the destruction with a full of, of the impacts of the study occur when they come back to the business is do they need to really now you start from scratch. they lose their housing and the, the broker they live in the process. that is not enough. that's not, that's not a solution yet. i like to not a solution. we have a major structure program that needs to be fixed on it, which is not think every will get in the kitchen. yes, this is going to happen, but we need to speak this the 1st. we need to get this done. complete that we need to ensure that there cannot make activity that's supposed to be created as a result of this dam begins to come into play. because without getting this thought of this, this solution in place will just be beating around the bush. i will double the
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solution to tackling this program. i know having researched for this program, a lot of your countrymen feel exactly the same way. david, just want to explain to the international audience that might not understand the region that well and the ac cameron built the damn themselves, the lago damn. at the same time. no, jerry was meant to build their own dam further down the stream that was proximately 2 and a half times the size of the camera. and he and dan, but that would add to the buffer to stop any overflow from the camera. and dan, but that has to this day never been finished. i'd like to bring in our food gifts now from aberdeen and scotland money, lou kinsey, a teaching fellow in politics and international relations at the university of evelyn. thank you very much for being on the program. money, can you explain from a chem rooney in point of view, why you think there has been so many issues around the both the cameras damn, but also the nigerian damn as well?
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yes. so it's good that you started by giving a little bit of background on how the infrastructure were supposed to be managed around this. so let's not kid ourselves. this issue. it's fundamentally a war time management issue. i know there, the ministers talked about being the range being on pretty dated while yes, their rates are here this year. but all the ratings and reviews have been studied for so many years. and all of this is predictable. so you have issues or call a town planning in nigeria for water management nigeria and we go and i'm talking about a case of cumberland come room build and dam, anticipating nigeria to rest on we've done that. can manage to flow. conroy
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informs nigeria of it's necessity to release some of the water in the niger doors. nothing. and when the floats come, as they have come. nigeria tried to use cameroon as the as date skim. good. so we have to be clear that this is an issue of pool governance for governance in terms of or been planning, as well as managing what is in nigeria. so what is a resource in my area? that should be my major t, as the on the speaker said this hass saving lives in terms of avoiding it's also have indication on economics. so if you went to your dom as nigeria supposed they will produce electricity, it will, which will then feed into the economy and livelihood. so. so fundamentally, this is a poor governance issue, principally on the side or nigeria and minister,
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you're in charge of water resources for nigeria. it's been for decades. why hasn't the day been finished? first of all, let me say that it's easy to, to, to, to label the label level down. if you were actually picking a date was kind enough to nature the other issue. there are plenty issues. and these are centered on the fact that we have a federal government for a system of government. so there are responsibility for federal government and there is, was for the states, i want to say that that is not just like with them. yes, it's a factor. ok, but we don't need to leave, doesn't go down on the baby for us to be able to check the situation. we need so many doubts on the bid may try on the bid may benson we did, we did the down guy. we need to down to rabbi with in addition to the doesn't,
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it doesn't house or w. i took it that they're talking about when we came into this administration 2015 . that was a, that been an effort to start the process. of course, searching the doesn't court of the planning aspect when the planning was very poor . so we have to start all over again as i'm talking to now, their consultants working they've done the feasibility study that we did to design for us to be able to have a proper, a design and a proper done project for initially when we came in, we were looking at the beauty arrangement with some contractors who wanted to build a hydro power competent along with it. but unfortunately, they said that the, when we checked that the, the, the financial model wasn't suitable for them. yes, we did, the doesn't go under, but we don't the that's, that's your house. it was from this government has completed one of the prison which is should be like, one of the downside is to be checked. but this is
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a process that's going to take some time. i've been talking to you though we have signed and will use with several companies. we have to dance hydropower projects, hydro property at the plant, or even me. there's a local jeff. basically want to me to there's also a business plan out outland business gets approved for cause and there are quite a number of smaller projects in addition to hopefully in the future the hydro power project that we hope will come on strip. the problem is the big as so many tried to trees that have not been you know, dumped. and therefore it's only about about like i let me say that can really just been truthful. we sign up with them in 2016. we were supposed to be a lot seen us on a regular basis. every yeah,
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we have the was to that i had because i was just going to check on them 2 years ago or 3 years ago. they release the what does without you for me that i. busy just go and trade the provisions of them, of the work that we signed with them. we will have to write a purchase letter to their to, to the committee. you know what it is this year, we release the waters on october, september. but that's not, that's not the only issue. it's not about the luck without release. the entire country has been flooded because of dental rates. like go down is a factor, but it's not a significant factor. i let me say this, we have trans boundary. what does, yes, there must be where the cost would be 20 percent of the total for what for each of the country, 80 percent of the rest of the floor is actually generated within that i do a temporary for them. and so just like the, the, the highlander public that's drained into the southwest region. ok, i guess,
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you know, there's a 1000000 people standing in water wondering when they'll be able to get back to their homes if at all they don't want to play a blame game. they're just looking to the government to actually come up with a solution. so can you give us a timeline on when the day might be able to be finished? because we know that the cam meridians are going to continue to release water. so is there a day or a timeline that you can, that you can give these people that have, have lost everything in these last floods. you cannot, i've said that, said the damn be supported by his love, the only issue, but it down of that's importance. and who are stretch it even more to this, to be properly designed? because if, by the time you put it that way, so the, we want to put a chassis i lab in the live, you know, the, what i will, you don't even every parts of cameron, but there's a more detailed engineering study going on, which i commissioned and i feel that,
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oh that is this, he studies me to be done so that the dumb does not become a problem when it is supposed to be a solution. that is one, then we have other, a strategy that we're looking at. really nature, for instance, frozen from a spectrum the for to gel mountains across is to 5 countries before coming to ledger. a lot of it is in the sahara desert, so it comes with a lot of citizens. i well already planning a more detailed master plan study for the reverse for he was major and been me so that we can introduce them. we were treated solutions going forward and maybe also reclaim some, some, some areas and provide. so the better that we get show channels within the rivers as this, as it used to be several decades ago. i. when we do that, we feel that by improving the capacity of the channels are we was digest. maybe we could alleviate some, some of the problem, but is those days will while she solution i what else was management is tough and
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it takes yes. a tv where you start to program. you can take tickets before you able to go good. i can money, we're going to go to you now and just before we finish up this program, what do you make of the minister. busy there, i guess, alluding to the fact that the communication from the camera rooney inside hasn't been what it should be. yes. so you could say that that's the case because like i said earlier on, there's a degree of a poor governance in this case. maybe signals are not picked or transmitted. they should be, what did the minister is not saying, though, the minister has said a lot about accepting that a land lease or more part of or not. this one to minister pamela because he's not part of the sport for you is not talking well about would
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a town planning or city planning in nigeria, how people are building on flood plains, how even nigerian laws around building floor plans are not properly enforced? because this is part of the whole flaunting system, like you mentioned earlier, that people standing in water asking what needs to be done or what could be done for them. and all of this issues have to be thought about in connection is not just about building dams or releasing water, but thinking about a holistic proof or process that money is water to protect people from floors, but also to contribute to economics. and from the camera inside of it, they can want to work on what the nigerians agree to do downstream. and what day can do in, in our camera without thinking much about what is happening in nigeria. so the,
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both governments need an effective water management system commission or whatever that communicates on even a weekly or d. b. 's can manage what is a shared water resource for all of them. but we must emphasize that this is an issue. way things have not been managed properly for so many years, just a thing or now you would see that next year will be another florida and another minister will come and see exactly the same thing. so this is not new. so we need to, you need to ask the media who and that meant is the account payable to make sure that this, this happens. okay, well, that's exactly what we try to do here on inside story. thank you very much. minister, solomon adama, a david ramsey and minute can see for being on the inside story. and i thank you very much for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and the further discussion go to our facebook page. that is facebook dot com
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