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education system in the past. same subjects like liberal studies, may have encouraged young people to participate in the 2019 mass protest. goods info, the government will help strengthen teachers. proper concepts concerning the constitution, the basic law, the one country to systems, principal, national security, and the spirit of the rule of law and her list of these textbooks are part of the new materials, the hong kong, secondary school educators, teaching the new citizenship and social development course, this book explains china's emphasis on the responsibility of all citizens, including the people of hong kong. to safeguard the country, sovereignty territorial integrity, the other elements of national security. as many teachers seek to leave one university student who wanted to remain anonymous, said those looking to enter the profession, face new requirements, some new policy for us. while we have to go for examinations to
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test our law to our country, we have to pass the test to become a profession. being a teacher has long been her goals. she says, but now she wonders what hong kong schools will be like when the dream becomes a reality. jessica washington out 0 hong kong. ah. so again, i'm fully battle with the headlines on al jazeera, the you case, chancellor. jeremy hon says he will reverse almost all budget plans that sponsor panic on the markets. he's jess and vale tax and spending measures 2 weeks earlier than planned. the most important objective for our country right now is stability. governments tunnels eliminate volatility in markets, but they can play their part. and we will do so. because instability affects the
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prices of things in shows the cost of mortgages and the values of pensions. that will be more difficult decisions, i'm afraid, on both turks and spending as we deliver our commitment to get debt falling as a share of the economy. over the medium term, at least 3 people have been killed and for injured in drawn strikes on ukraine's capital. official say keith was struck several times in an early morning attacked by russian forces. using drones. air forces from across nato are taking part in the alliance says on your nuclear exercise, the jails involve 14 countries and up to 60 aircraft. training flights will take face over belgium, that's hosting the exercise and over the north sea. and the u. k. ethiopian government says it's aiming to take control of airports and other critical infrastructure in the northern to gray region. the african union as call for an immediate cease fire after an escalation in violence. fighting resumed in august
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between the tig, rye rebels and government forces, the 2 remaining candidates for brazil's presidency have held their 1st televised one on one debate. present. jay bought an arrow and challenger lulu a silver locked in a tight run off which is taking place in 2 weeks. and thousands of women and girls in western india had help hold her against child marriage. they held candidate processions across 10000 villages. you're upset with the headlines on al jazeera. we'll have more news for you after inside story to stay with us. ah, how has she jean pings, leadership of shaped china in an unprecedented mood?
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the communist party is set to extend his tenure as later. but what does it mean for china's future, both at home and abroad? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm emily angland. he is the most powerful communist leader in china since mows the dong now the communist party congress, which is held every 5 years, is set to extend a president, shadeen pings leadership for historic 3rd term. this will of course, have significant impact on the world's 2nd largest economy and the region at lunch . she used his opening speech to declare beijing's of global power had increased while warning of dangerous storms ahead. he called for faster military growth than
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defended his governments 0 close it approach. he also raised the issue of hong kong, saying it must be ruled by what he calls patriots. the new leadership lineup is expected to be revealed in about a week from now. we'll get to our guests in just a moment, but 1st this report from adrian brown, jim, o president, she jim ping's grip on power would now appear absolute. if he has enemies that the hidden or unknown, or both. but some of those who chronicled, she's curious, say you don't get to the top of chinese politics without eliminating rivals and making enemies. he does, but it needs to be said that the congress has an active state pageantry. the fact that this congress is happening means that these rivals have already been largely pushed to the sidelines. after becoming communist party chief a decade ago,
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she vowed to route out dishonest officials, both high ranking tigers and low level flies. the campaign went down well with the public, especially when it ensnared powerful and wealthy figures. bocce eli was the rising star of chinese politics, even tip as a future president. but within months of she becoming leader bo was serving a life sentence for corruption and abuse of power. with no one was untouchable, including joe young kang, the man who'd be in charge of state security. he said he's also serving a life term for corruption and disclosure. of state secrets and the purge is not over and more than 4000000 people have been caught up in it. so it's been a very effective tool, procedure paying to both instill discipline with the communist party, but also clamped down on his rivals. other analysts say the continuing campaign against corruption ahead of this congress would ensure that she strengthens his
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hand over appointments to key decision making bodies. she has led china per decade. now he's expected to end precedent by being appointed to a 3rd term as party chief. so having seized control of the chinese communist party, seizure prim, then seize control of china and china has become a lot less free, a lot more oppressive, far less open than it was. 10 years ago. it's an accumulation of power unseen. since chairman, man, oh, i've only to since him has built a personality colt as straw adrian brown, l g 0. ah, let's bring in our guest sin badging. victor gough is the vice president of the center for china and globalization in hong kong. andrew lee,
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young and international, an independent china strategist, and in, in albany in u. k. steven vines, the author of the book, defying the dragon, hong kong and the world's largest dictatorship. a very warm welcome to each of you, andrew. i'd like to start with you. she's power remain strong inside the c. c. pay that certainly not in doubt, but what about outside it? are the tides turning against she domestically and internationally? well, this is a natural, almost development and even you. ready a pen and you would become a 1000000 pounds and then you'll press the felt and your influence will. ready raise concerns of and then psyche and your labor or your challenger or perceive rival but i did the c s
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that is taking this seem to be taking china. ready to a higher plane, a lot of the the western media is concentrating on certain specific aspects like the cold with. ready dynamic 0 policy and complete control with mark all taiwan. but actually in speech is much more than that. it is no less than a decoration or a strategic stage in child development. because we look at how china, for all, over the past decades, you know, trying to start a form of a pool country. and then it was actually have to, hi is like under the show. and of course, have to keep a little because trying to simply does not have the comprehensive part of the
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defense of interest. now, john is under the tutelage all the time is under spotty and regain china's national self confidence to projected to the next 5 play. and that's what this conference is all about. it's not about a presidency holding on to power because he highlighted the problems and challenges. china was based in this chance that actually both an international, a domestic because of the demographics and, and the, the, to grow. so the lines in that knowledge is subject to us sanctions and so also an extra hour. so the consensus about the parties that see is didn't do the job speaking of shaping the
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man to do the job, steve. and i wanted to ask you, just how popular is he among people in china? are they happy to see him stay on for a 3rd time? well the, the simple answer to that question is, we don't know, because there is no freedom of expression in china. the impression is that people do support him, but the reality is because you live in a society where nobody can know can be say what they really feel unless like, you know, mr. long who are just hurt records the party law. and this is doing that. it's very difficult to know what we do know and is very interesting. is that in the wider world, you have the surveys or the peer institute, which measures popularity of various world leaders and countries. and in the outside world, the popularity and appreciation of the people's republic of china has declined very
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rapidly in practically in countries of the world. since the accession of general secretary, she like to go, i want to pick up on what stephen just said in terms of the censorship. we're bombarded with images of strength and the power of the si se pain. and the censorship of china is, is no secret. but doesn't that also highlight the insecurity of the party and she given they're afraid of even the slightest criticism? well, 1st of all, please allow me to remind our audience that china has the most dynamic and very sophisticated internet system. everyone is wary. a speaker in front of him at arrow and talks about things and is will on the mobile phone in the internet for example . and i think this is the reality in china. now, china does have says issue. there is a short list of things that people are not around to talk about. for example,
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hawaii independence, hong kong independent tibetan independence. we go independent, for example. these are couple issues and china and the challenge people. so all the government inc stamping out these very controversial issues for example, and we all united together to fight against the separatist double bonds in taiwan or originally, a couple of years ago. you, hong kong, this is not to dissent. this is really, people getting together are for the same direction of maintaining sovereignty and territorial integrity. if anyone believes that china does not have freedom of expression on the internet or your mobile phone, then come to china and see what exactly is happening on the ground. now i would say the chinese consumers spend more time on internet and on their mobile phone, probably them people in many other countries. part of the reason is because the broadband system is very good. 5, g is very popular,
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and affordability of the smartphones in town is very popular. so she should remind to everyone that china is one of the best to connect in countries in the world. a raw talks about every being on the internet except that short list of couple issues . i want to get to that list in just a minute. then stephen, i noticed you are shaking your head there in disagreement while la andry you were nodding. well, i mean, the facts of the matter and this is well known to both of the other guess is that there is not a limited number of subjects which are 2. there is a very vast number of subjects of who and just let's take one example. during the covey crisis, which is still registering for access to the internet, was shut down to people who criticize the authorities for the way they were handling the pandemic. it's also the fact that chinese citizens cannot legally access the world wide where, i mean,
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astonishing that this hasn't just been mentioned. all of the internet is very tightly controlled. china does not have access, for example, to app such as google, such as walks. all of these search engines and all of these communication apps are developed independently in china and a very severely controlled. and if you're a person who's known to have said anything new sleep on one of these devices you've got shut down. it's as simple as that. let's bring the conversation, i guess back to the congress and to she didn't pings leadership. andrew, what impact has the draconian 0 co that policy had on? she's a leadership and also he's popularity. well 1st of all, i like to address the perception that somehow the chinese communist party
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is unstable, or the society seems that they are a lot of backlash against the party. well, this is a complete travesty of the truth. and i'm referring to the harvard kennedy school study, which came out 6 or 9 months ago. and it's a long to, to, to know that it's not just the one all is based on a track record of similar studies in the past using our kennedy schools. but prior to the search tools which compiled the charter companies party government is the most of. busy the bodies people compare with other countries. many other countries including west of the. busy receipts in the united states, in fact, multiple ranks about the united states as much as 80 or 90 percent of the people support the companies party because the lives have changed the recklessly on those 2 h over so many years regardless of the regime regardless of what type of government you have, i think the test of the putting it whether, you know,
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people have experience, you know, better lives, you know, better likelihood and have a situation. so all these metrics, the child is going to spot this, but highly supportive body people. so this kind of rhetoric about differences in freedoms, because each countries have different political, historical, and, and various other differences. i mean, just like the family, you know, the way i read my family is very different from you all you raise your family and to expect that there is a one dimensional whole thing. i think that this is a travesty show. but coming back. yeah. question about the 0 kind of policy. what impact is that had on his leadership and going forward on his popularity because we have seen protest, i mean even a few days before the congress party, they weigh images of banners being put up on a bridge in the,
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in the north west of bay g well that was a long kind of thing and as i said a. ready change the reality that every dorothy of the times people say what the part about coming back to the fact that it's, i think the best of the see also explain that of course the light all the time is people who are on much higher plane compare with if you look at the rate of the pandemic united states, 1000000 people die in the united states because of the fantastic. but charles population is 4 times the speakers united states. so if you have a similar kind of measures in the united states and then there's a risk that china with and these cars in that scenario impact most on the most vulnerable groups, the elderly or the. ready the less privilege, so this is completely
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a comment on impact that we can all agree on is the impact on the economy. and if i can address the question to you, victor gal, what's been the impact on china's economy? as a result of the 0 clothing policy and will she soften his approach going forward? do you think? well, 1st of all, talk to you about the covalent him pandemic. china has the highest success rating fighting of this panoramic and i agree with mr. lee on, in terms of the death raise infection rates. china has the lowest rates, that means chan has saved more people from infection. so one from this, from the chinese perspective, heard immunity is really an indication of the completely confidence of the governments involved to because they cannot save their own people. they cannot prevent the wide spread of the pandemic. as a result that people become victims, they lose their lives, they get infectious, they go to ice, yours in china,
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we want to do the other way and allow me to emphasize was again, every contrast there, i did come up with his old way to deal with the pad that make and channels way is to prevent as many people as possible from getting infections of dying from rack. the covet man, a panoramic. now, you talked about economic costs, allow me to man emphasize that china has made its choice completely and fully aware of the economic costs. that means after weighing all the cars economically, the chinese guy was still decided to save as many people as possible because we do believe saving people's lives, including elderly people, is very much part of the human rights for the chance people. we want to prevent as many people from dying or infections from the pandemic, and this will be the continued focus. now. the dynamic 0 call the policy,
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does that mean it will not be changed or modified originally? it was 2 weeks plus one week $21.00 days in total. now it's 7 days plus 3 days. and i truly believe that after that had the party congress, it probably will be reduced down to 5 days or 2 days either one day example. so it is being modified and eventually we all want to have life going back to normal, but not on the pre condition. the more people get infectious and more people who are trying to die. brian infections, victor guy, you mentioned human rights, which brings me to my next issue that i want to address stephen, i'll address this to you. a human rights report from the un said china was responsible for serious human rights violations in the shin. young province is she's continued tenure as later a disaster for human rights. as amnesty international has described it. i don't think there's any serious question the human rights in china,
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which were already the very low level her to, to rated and of the period of teaching things rule in, in john, in the target regions of china. of course that has become a very dramatic situation with the ledge genocide, with literally hundreds of thousands of people being in turned with mass sterilizations or weaker females, et cetera, et cetera. and of course, i mean it's, it's not just in engine jag, i mean, in, in, in hong kong, a free society, which was guaranteed on the international treaties to be able to maintain its way of life, has now found most forms of freedom, most forms of liberty extinguished and the jails are full of political prisoners. so if the question is, has there been anything other than a deterioration of human rights in china?
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the answer is very emphatic. it has got worse. and i think the longer you have not only one party rule, because obviously that's what you have in china. but one man rule the toleration for any form of descent within the borders of the p r c is going to actually continue to move downwards. and why didn't she mention singe young specifically in his speech to congress today? well, i think that this is why i liked it. of course, by the way, all the time i've been doing that the past couple of months or. yeah, which is cause, as i said, a complete travesty because you know that the accusation of forced labor you would look at the, the way that for example, caught, is collected is completely mechanized. so what is the forced labor? and of course though there's no doubt that a lot of the seen jang,
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active. ready or separate, isn't that been arrested or this is a factor like any other country nationalist here. the simple but the say, the say this general side, i think over the pulse. but i think that this is a very important part of honest and host of a strategic position. so this on the west accusations are completely bother and it's part of is immunization of china. that's why i need the un human rights report. the united nations human rights report is inaccurate. well, it is a, at least in a sort of partially, it's not completely inaccurate because they stop a, there goes, asians are based on evidence of we would always say, well, certain cases. i mean, you can look at the prisoners and what color will bay for example and say,
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the whole united states is a big polio. a country like was, i'm not saying that as part of a it's as big as in jan, but it was not a personal of extent. so every country has. ready has its own national security and is the most important imperative, right. but i think a lot of the accusations that completely over the false speaking of the u. s. l. direct this question to victor, victor. she is called the military growth. that's obviously coming in mid tensions with washington. how the relationship with the u. s. play out during she's 3rd 10. and you very much before i answer your question while timely us relations allow me to very quickly talk about john. you may know the united nations human rights commission defeated a drafter resolution proposed by the united states on many western countries accusing china's human rights violations. the change are and if you read the
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numbers, most of those countries which defeat the u. s. sponsor, the resolutions are actually our country bushland countries. that means they support china's position and they believe that the false accusations wrought by the united states and western countries about human rights situation in change are completely fabricated. and i think i agree with mr. leon, in his assessment of the situation and change young will remain part of the chinese territory. and the way go, people will always remember our brothers and sisters. and the false accusations will really not be generated or turned into any concrete actions because china sovereignty or wishing joe will be i in class, mr. gal, we are solar time. so if you wanted to respond to my question about the washington, that would be great. exactly. trying the u. s. relations are really deteriorating and the united states has not come to terms with the fact that china will soon
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surpass bag of the united states as far as the size of the carbon is concerned. and the also worried that was travis of policies that are the united states. china will replace the united states as the top dog in the world. childless view is just the opposite channels. economic development will continue adding less than 10 years time. probably much less than that child size will be economy will be that bigger than that. all the divers states, however, china seas no foreign of become in the next top dog. will know why. because trying to wants to cheat every country, because by in the world as a need call and child there will never impose it's ways it's views and it's way of doing things on to any other country in the world. well, it's certainly a conversation which has ignited a lot of passion and i appreciate all of you for taking the time to speak with us. unfortunately, we have run short of time so we have to leave it there. but thank you to all of our guests, victor, gao, angel young, and steven vines,
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