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an emergency measure a we shouldn't have to do it. and it is purely based on the availability globally of vaccine malawi is doing what it can to contain the outbreak. but it's a race against time. rainy season is set to begin in november, create and conditions when diseases like cholera can spread even faster than to molar him al jazeera for the un security council has voted to sanction a haitian gang leader accused of attacks against civilians. jimmy shares here is a former policeman who has been linked to widespread rights violations. the counsel adopted a resolution to sanction any one who threatens the security and stability of haiti . hawk the vote to be you. when does not mean anything to us. whether they agree or disagree, we haitian people do not want any force in the country up with freedom and democracy in the country. yet it's not that we haitian people have said enough is enough with
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you like so not the revolution will happen, but there is no good education. the schools cannot function, o, e l is worthless, he must resign it. we do not want any foreign forces in the country. ah, well, this is al jazeera and these are the top stories. the sour russian bank to authorities in the ukrainian city of course own have told civilians to evacuate as caves forces advance and the region. thousands of people have been living in fairies across the disney pro river as ukrainian strikes have made the only 2 major bridges from kasan and possible. mohammed jam june has more from cave. there has effectively been a media blackout in place when it comes to the ukranian counter offensive. and what the ukranian forces are doing to try to recapture their saw. this has been in place for close to a week. now, i can tell you that when watching media figures here,
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when hearing from certain politicians, there is a sense that these folks are indicating that they believe that the ukrainian forces are steadily advancing. that there is a belief here in ukraine that the ukrainian forces will be successful in recapturing at least part of care. so on with a governor of russia's belgrade region says 2 civilians have been killed by shelling. 15000 people have been live without electricity off the strikes on the region bordering ukraine. ukraine has denied responsibility for several attacks carried out there since russia's invasion began in february. when georgia maloney has been sworn in his elise new prime minister, the 1st woman to hold the post. she's also leading italy's 1st 5 right government since the 2nd world war form a u. k prime minister barak johnson is expected to join the rice to give back his old job. former chancellor, she sooner is also expected to be a contender. cabinet minister penny more than declared her candidacy on friday.
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delegates and journalists in china's capital have witnessed an unusual thing that the communist party congress form a chinese president's hoosier town was escorted from the closing ceremony. he was seen being persuaded by 2 men to leave the hall, who spoke briefly to president. she's paying off sitting next to him in the front row. lily amanda is approved and amendments of the parties charter that could give more power to president. she. the announcement came at the closing session of a week long party congress that sits the national agenda for 5 years. on sunday, the governing party is expected to confirm him as party chief for an unprecedented 3rd term. well, those are the headlines. the news continues after upfront, which side is winning chaos or control? i, what does the new forever proxy war mean for america and nato? as long as americans keep consuming, prices are going to keep going up. why didn't joe biden see inflation comics?
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how did we get so much wrong? the quizzical look with us on the bottom line. the us state of oklahoma is set to execute 24 people by december 2024. that's nearly one person a month for the next 2 years. is we going to fund we take a closer look at the criminal legal structure in the us. we ask why the death penalty is still illegal and explore the flaws in the system that lead to thousands of wrongful conviction. the 2400 people on death row and executions up in the last year. the debate on whether the death penalty should still exist in the united states in the 21st century is back in the spotlight. supporters of the death penalty argue that it is the only way to deliver justice against those who commit the most heinous crimes and can be carried out in a humane way. opponents say that it is unfairly applied and that it cannot be carried out without violating the constitution's ban on cruel and unusual
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punishment. so can the death penalty or be justified. and is there really a way to execute someone in a humane way? joining us to discuss this is sister helen, pre john anti death penalty activist catholic nun and spiritual advisor to those on death row. she's the author of the books, dead man, walking the death of innocence and river of fire. sister helen, thank you so much for joining us on. upfront 11 people have been executed in the united states so far in the year 2022 this year was at least another 8 scheduled to die before the end of the year. you spent more than 3 decades counseling. people sentenced to die. you've accompany people to their executions and your view, what determines who is put to death by our criminal legal system. when you look at it, look at the desk in 2021. it's solely up to a prosecutor to an attorney general or even to the president the united states.
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that's what basically fundamentally broken in the way the supreme court set up the death penalty in the greg decision in 1976. they said, we're going to set the criteria to kill people that the government can take their lives. that it's the worst of the worst murder, which has been impossible to know. who knows the difference between a quote, ordinary murder and the worst of the worse. and it was coupled with complete discretionary power to prosecutors to see death from square one. so when any crime is committed, when any murder a prosecutor is never has to seek death and then along the way during the appeals, it is up to them to see it through and to see that the person dies. it's a fundamental flaw in the way the supreme court said the death penalty and that when we look now,
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most of the united states has shut down the death penalty mound. state louisiana, that in the eighty's killed 8 people in 8 and a half weeks had to have an execution and 20 years. we're shutting it down, but there are pockets where we see killings like in texas because of discretion up to the prosecutor when you, when you look in those states where there's louisiana, texas, mississippi, alabama. it's not just the state, it's who in those states is being executed. it's whose death is being a greenlit through the discretion of the prosecutors. i'm thinking specifically about poor people, things specifically about black and brown population. this isn't a universal death. tony crisis seems to be one of particular populations. why? i mean, the legacy of slavery is with us. it's written in every institution. we have more, but definitely in the criminal justice system. and when you look at the over 1500 people have been executed in this country,
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8 out of every 10 of them were killed because of the killing of a white person. a victim has to have some status in society and it plays out and race big time, a black on black murder, hard to gives a blip on the, on the prosecutors radar screen. because of race matters. who you care about, and whose death you care about matters in this country. most people will never actually witness an execution in their own life with their own eyes. executions are carried out quietly. there's little information about the process itself that is made public. some states limit the number of witnesses that can be present at executions. and even they are typically shielded from a large part of the lethal injection process with an actual curtain that they put up to prevent people from seeing it. what can you, you've been there? what can you tell us about what is like the company someone to their death torture
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in the united nations convention against torture is defined as a mental or physical assault on someone rendered defenseless. and that's a really big thing about when you're going to be executed. that you're rendered completely defenseless. and imagine these are human beings, imaginative, conscious. human beings, when you have consciousness and imagination, you anticipate dying, you die in your dreams and nightmares a 1000 times before you drive because you anticipate it. there is no way the killing of conscious imaginative human beings can ever be humane. yes, i've been there. i've been there with 6 human beings have been killed, about 3 electrocuted 3 lethal injection. lethal injection is every bit as terrible as electrocution because they're the supreme court allowing states to experiment
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with ways to kill people. oklahoma right now with the people they are blind up, one is richard glosson. he said 3 last meals and almost killed 3 times, snatched away from debt. that too is torture. there is no way you can say you're doing this humanely. my big thing and being with human beings who were killed in front of my eyes, was to tell them, look at my face. you have a dignity, no one can take from you. i will be the face of dignity and love for you. look at me. when they do this, but mark, it's such a helpless feel and there's nothing you could do. so that's why i'm a voice out there. yeah. and it appears that part of why so much of this is shrouded in mystery, is so that people can't see the brutality of it. they can't see the torture because they are proposed to the definitely who would say, well, the reason is not torture is because this can be carried out humanely. they say that a person being executed does not need to endure needless pain and suffering while
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being killed. now again, you've been an execution witness for 3 decades. you are very familiar, intimately familiar with the u. s. execution process. is there a humane way to execute somebody? absolutely not. it's always going to be torture. and i gotta tell you more. this was the talking point i had in my dialogue with the catholic church, specifically with pope john paul, the 2nd who came before frank pope francis. then i took him there. i said, when i'm working with a man to execution, any shackled hand and foot surrounded by 6 guards, who can walk 30 steps, be strapped down to be killed. and he whispers to me, please pray. god holds up my legs. where is there any in viable dignity to the human person being rendered defenceless and kill? it was a telling point i was part of a discussion on one the only one that influence the catholic church. but when pope
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princes and 2018 changed the teaching of the church about the death penalty, it was precisely the point of the vital, the dignity of all life, even those guilty of crimes. and we can never and trust over the governments that right to think they have the wisdom to be able to decide who should dot, which now aligns the catholic church. right with the united nations universal declaration of human rights. article 3, d. an alien bull. right to life of every human person because they are a human person, you can never take their life for me. that is political rhetoric spinning that or yeah, it's the only just punishment to look at with the victims of saw that completed a park or see about victims. they're going to wait 17 years on average to watch a person be killed,
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the eyes and that supposed to bring him peace. that's political rhetoric that's not to reality. 19 out of $27.00 death penalties. faith, have secrecy, statutes on the books, and many concealed the sources of their lethal injection drugs. most states prevent witnesses from doing at least some part of the execution. how is the secrecy legal? how can you have an accountability if you have any accountability? in fact, if everything is so opaque that is by design that'd secret. there have been at least 2 court cases, tried to make executions, public, and they have all been defeated. the, the basic secrecy is it's done behind prison walls with only a few witnesses. they keep the curtain drawn. my poor don't be gillis williams, he had an i q a 653 years after he was executed, the supreme court decided in atkins. you can't kill mentally cow, and people yell fine. it came too late for doby,
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but they couldn't find the vain he was scared of needles. i couldn't be with him. i was on the other side of that curtain and he was taking too long to keep waiting, waiting. they tried to find it in one arm. okay. they got they even hear that that's going to have been to science because they don't want to glitch. they couldn't find it. in the 2nd arm, they tried his leg, then they finally put the needle in his neck. and finally, then, end it took about what 2530 minutes, poor adobe. they are on the table waiting to be killed. so we got to bring it close to the people, we have to bring it to the p. and that's what my next workers can be about. how we, the people are shutting down the deaf education, education, education, let the witnesses been there, get out there during the 2020 election, president biden promised that if elected,
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he would work to pass legislation to eliminate the death penalty at the federal level and incentivized states to follow the federal government example, amnesty international points out that other than a moratorium of federal executions his administration has then very little to make good on this pledge. given that most executions a carried out in republican state than any significant public policy changes would need to happen through passage from congress. what concrete steps should biden take to have some progress on its own? these promises? let's come back some slack because he's handling a lot of things. he absolutely, i believe is going to say like, you know, this was the 1st presidential election we've ever and where a president came out against the death penalty, even though mama didn't come out again to death. and he said there are some cases which are so terrible that you have to allow from the definitely want to allow for that your laundry, everything. and so he's got to take it step by step. i believe it's going to do the
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right thing. but he's got to do it. there are 2 actions are going to happen, federal level and the state level. we got to work at the state level with the people. but i do believe that the president that in the end will do the right thing and the right thing would be before he leaves office to commute all the senses on death row, that people will not be able to be put to death. well, we will certainly see if that happened style and thank you so much for joining us. thank you. great jim. from the death penalty, we turn now to another issue affecting our legal system. false convictions, that conversation coming up next on upfront. ah, innocent until proven guilty. it's a fundamental tenant of the u. s. judicial system and it's the backbone of the criminal process. however, at least 5 percent of the car, so population is wrongfully convicted. that means that about one in every 20
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judgment puts an innocent person behind bars. more often than not, it's a person of color. there is now some recourse within the system, but exonerations are lengthy, complicated, and legal resources are not easily accessible. so what does this say about the u. s . criminal justice system? joining us to discuss is advocate and author anthony. hidden anthony was released in 2015 after spending 28 years on death row. falsely convicted for robbery and double murder in 1985. he's now community educator at the equal justice initiative . anthony, thank you so much for joining us on up front. you were wrongly convicted for to capital murders in birmingham, alabama. almost 4 decades ago. police falsely identified you. they then searched your mother's house. they found your mother's revolver and linked you to the killings without any other physical evidence. as a result, you spent nearly 30 years in prison talk to me about the, the specific factors that you would say influence your arrest and your conviction.
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well, let me 1st say thank you for having me. but all the toners often did not fan are gone and my mother house, i am the one who told them that my mother only smith weston handler. and i told him, because i knew that i hadn't committed the crown and now was brought up to always tell the truth. and that day i told the truth in little did i know that they would get to go till the law like the good on match. and it would cost me almost my life in this system is a system. they treat you better if you're rich and go take a poll to report them. so adam, have the mind to hi decent defense. and therefore the system, if you don't have the money, cannot convince you. but he can come back to more easily if you're born black in paw and when you have to rely on a state appointed turner,
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which i had to rely on. and so conviction was very easy for them to obtain incentives me to bear. knowing that i was in the suit, they didn't make an honest mistake. they did it on purpose. this system is work in exactly the way it was designed to work. and it was designed to put me in the car behind the prison wall. for many people, they can wrap their minds around a mistake. they can even read their minds around police, believing that you're guilty and being a little overzealous in closing the case because they noted got the right guy. but in your case, you're saying they just made the stuff up, they lied and it's not just your case. we hear about false confessions. ah, we hear about government misconduct planted evidence, this kinds of stuff all the time. it's hard for many americans, though many people around the world to wrap their mind around the idea that these
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things are happening wilfully, that these aren't just hard working. police officers who sometimes make a mistake or, you know, i can tell people that are coming to town. this is happened noonish from the 1800 to the 19 log back in 18. 1900. a white woman could say a black man all. ready long he was charge. what a crown? no. the other dish. aw, milam lucian inch. no evidence. and so we still have this modern day linton. we just have a different tool. we're starting to see the reports coming out as people look into these exonerated cases. and we find the kind of flaws you're talking about. now on a positive note, is that we're seeing more and more exonerations in recent years. ah, are we had it in the right direction? we shouldn't, we have to get to that point all briana zone rated. i've been exonerated in heaven
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not being offered or given. one painting have not even been offered an apology. all we're gonna try and filed for compensation for 30 years in my life until that says, i was not found guilty about jewelry. i am not eligible to receive minute thing. so once the charges dropped and it's been realised that effectively that you spent 28 years in prison for something you didn't do and that the case against you was manufactured. what does the state seine you do? you do, he said they didn't apologize. did they say anything? they haven't said anything for mom will be honest with, you know, be only with i didn't hear him say these words, what i was told, tell them will be glad that we just didn't execute in there to handle that. just be glad we didn't execute him in him being the inward, they used a legit, allegedly that that is a a, that's a that,
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that's an incredibly i mean i don't even know to say it's, it's overwhelming and that's the end of the journey. i want you to take me step back, they'll talk to me about the fight to, to get the conviction overturned. all it took brash themes in the it would just initiate 16 years to finally get a court united states supreme court to rule ameritrade where they granted me a new trial and goes back to birmingham. the state of alabama cosy and is a young or it is with great sadness that we inform you that we lost going on. and so while we thought man was looking for the going into bullets which they trained me all, all they had actually the old expert to come in and re examine the bullets and go the same man a fan and match started years ago. 30 years later, say the gone, do not match to wait the in the force. well, as you mentioned,
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you didn't receive any money. you didn't receive any reparations after conviction was overturned by the supreme court. despite the fact that in alabama state senate, a proposal ah, was supposed to give you $1500000.00 of compensation for wrongful conviction as possible. but it's, it's not uniform. it varies from state to state. not to mention the process can be fraught with complications. as exonerates trying to access the the money that they're do. how is it that somebody can be false convicted? it's been decades in prison and still has to go through so many hurdles just to get restitution. oh, easy. i will do to re live in the state of alabama and be black. that's the to do now. you know, i saw quote for 30 years of being in solitary confinement. all i will know will
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make it you this camera and say that i'm 3. i'm just release ashley and go through all the all feelings in the. ready machine, oh really and there's another execution i haven't been offered to see a psychiatrist psychology all day. just open the door and say, hey, all try to you, liam. the best life you can, but we not going up to one way or another. i sit on death, row 28 years out witness script for me being executed. i have to remind myself that i was so close to the, i mean it is a trauma to, to what you're describing so that it would sound like you need therapy. you need some kind of response to post traumatic stress from being in, in that kind of, in the kind of that kind of context for so long. so no, so when i think about bet and 1500000 and i'm, i'm sticking there just for a 2nd because i want to go to understand what you need there for. this isn't like
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you're trying to make a pay this. am i getting a lot of re last 30 years? what? what does that money necessary for it more than necessary for me to get out and sign a decent doctor there can treat me and perhaps help me or it oddly for i don't have all money tied up in his so security i was didn't put anything in his so security for 30 year or so there for why haven't that been coming out? all i needed all to live on because he had some one they've been on there for for 30 years. have no computer experience tale, nothing. and most people, there's afraid of you because you've been locked up, lack of a caged animal. this system is, was design associated to put manns of call. and we will help people to believe that we're dealing with mass incarceration. we not dealing with national concentration.
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we didn't want to leave foremost, there was a study by the american psychological association. this year found the 80 percent of exonerated people experienced at least one serious traumatic event. while incarcerated in more than half of their group showed significant signs of p t. s. d . what should people know about the trauma that's experienced by people who are wrongly convicted, imprison a people, sit no there. when we could innocent means when women are special and therefore all at trauma is there. well, because we don't have the money to go out in the c k, qualify at all psychiatry or to trying least get us back on the right role at some point. it goal hits you and you will all just cry like a baby. little scream, michael, are so long as chasing you. and so no one knows when i go to return. there was an
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execution in the state while about. all i knew exactly wouldn't it in made is going to revenue exactly what has taken place because i was there for 30 years on this is something you can't turn all thing journals. i do. we do this best and i can and i will more than in the same if the state of alabama gave me a 1000000 and a half dollars, it would come close to trying to make me whole. oh, it is just a shame that we have a balcony in this country and means women goals to death, row and stay for decade and allow a stay sag. you're free to go in there, see it. they'll, you know, reparation. they owe you nothing. and they act is building, giving you something, and they act is told we do in your favor. we didn't execute that. you should be thankful that she should go home will be quiet. and yes,
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do i think that at any time they can knock on the door and sake idea something else they did at one time out of me. and so all that plays in my mind, or even that every day, all of these plays in, you've psychologically called of what they did to you before. and so people see me, they ca, hampton looking man, but they don't see this goss in the middle to all it is in sabbath me. i have no one else within. thank you for your work and i wish you luck. i hope you get just this and i hope you get everything that you deserve from state of alabama . thank you so much for joining us and up front. thank you for having that is our show up front will be back next week.
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