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doha ah tar brokercheck. of the headlines here on al jazeera report say that 2 of the likely runners in the race to be britain's next prime minister of hell talks. but neither for my prime minister barak johnson, nor from a finance minister re she sooner have officially declared that candidacy only penny morgan says she's definitely running. russian appointed officials in the ukrainian city of her son of told all civilians to leave immediately as keeps forces advance in the region. that warning of an increased danger of shelling, saying thousands have already left the house on regional is one of 4 ukrainian territories. moscow illegally. annexed last month on june as more from keith. there has effectively been a media blackout in place when it comes to the ukranian counter offensive. and what the ukranian forces are doing to try to recapture their saw. this has been in place
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for close to a week. now i can tell you that when watching media figures here, when hearing from certain politicians, there is a sense that these folks are indicating that they believe that the ukrainian forces are steadily advancing. that there is a belief here in ukraine that the ukrainian forces will be successful in recapturing at least part of care. so on the governor of russia, belgrade regions says 2 civilians have been killed by shilling. 15000 people were left without electricity. following the strikes on the region bordering ukraine. cave has denied responsibility for several attacks carried out their ga malone. he's been sworn in us. italy's new prime minister, the 1st woman in the job, she now leads the country's 1st far right government since world war 2, maloney takes over at a time of deep economic crisis. an unusual scene played out to the chinese communist party congress and beijing on saturday during the closing session for my president, whose intel was escorted out of the hall by 2 men. he was sitting next to president
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champagne. chinese state meter reported the former president was feeling unwell an earlier comment his party members approve and amendment to the parties charter that could give more power to president. she, on sunday, he's expected to be confirmed as parson need a full and unprecedented 3rd time. it's the 1st day of the hindu festival of devali, the days known as dante to san. traditionally, people buy gold, jewelry and coins. nowadays even digital scope, those are the headlines. the news continues to 0 after, in fact story, thank you and watching me, ah, ah, georgia maloney's being sworn in as it lays 1st far right prime in assistance world
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war 2. the 1st female leader will had a cabinet with differing views on crane and the european union. so what's next for italy? approach to the world. this is inside story. ah, ah, ah, hello and welcome to the show. i'm sammy's, a, them, georgia maloney will lead it least most right wing administration since the fascist era of the term was saline. nationalist brothers of italy party one last month election along with 2 others mature. solving these far right league and the controversial form of prime minister silvio berlusconi for the italia were in the when encamped to social conservatism, as well as anti immigration and neuro skeptic rhetoric or part of maloney's
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political appeal. she's also voiced anger about it least struggling economy, but she's pledging support for ukraine, a stance different from her russia friendly allies, soule, vini and berlusconi. we'll get to our panel shortly. but 1st car lag has this report. oh, i am georgia, i am a woman. i am a mother, i am italian. i am christian. these words at a 2019 rally flanked by former prime minister silvio berlusconi and right wing leader mateo sal vini, have come to define the rise of georgia maloney. italy's 1st female prime minister heads the nationalist brothers of italy, party, which has its roots in a post world war. 2 movement that drew in fascists sympathizes and officials, maloney sees herself as a defender of italy's traditional christian values. he allow for me. yeah,
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not moral. no alice lobby, yes to the natural family, nor to the algae be to lobby yes to sexual identity, no to gender ideology, no to islamist violence. yes, to secure borders, no to mass migration. no to begin to national finance. no to the bureaucrats of brussels. she takes office at a difficult moment for italy facing an economic recession and soaring energy bills . but she's turned down some of her anti e u rhetoric. the new finance minister is john carlo jetty, who was part of the previous unity government and is considered a moderate. the foreign minister is antonia ta, jani, a pro europe politician who wants headed the european parliament, and the immigration portfolio went to a technocrat. not the hard line at mateus al vini, who became minister of infrastructure. one of maloney's biggest challenges is italy's ukraine policy yet pretty minimal leaked audio messages suggest former
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prime minister and ally, silvio berlusconi. bragging about his friendship was letting me put in and appearing to justify russia invasion of ukraine. busy putin was supposed to enter ukraine and reach kiva one week, replaced the government with a new one chosen by the russian with a group of wise people. maloney has consistently backed ukraine. she responded to the league by insisting italy is a crucial part of europe and the atlantic alliance. but doubts linger. so question for europe will be, if we're going to go wildly, will literally remain a staunch nato ally, will actually continue the drug policy of supporting ukraine against the russian. and baby bologna says yes or deputies are wildly support to say maloney's coalition can help italy struggling economy. critics fear shifting europe. geo politics further to the right car leg for inside story.
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ah, why, let's bring our guests into the show. they're all joining us from italy in rome, valery foreign associate professor of political science at the university of florence, and founder of s. bennett, italy, a network for europe in social policy analysis. in florence, alberto tony, a professor of political science and associate professor of international history and the politics at the university of florence and in milan theresa fallon, a senior fellow. busy at the chicago council on global affairs, i am a former member of the strategic advisors group to nato of, or welcome to or if i could start with valerie. so this is the 1st fall right government since mussolini. valerie, how much of a historic shift is taking place in italian politics? ok, well i guess that a lot of people are sort of very worried about what's happening right now initially
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. ready my position is and a lot of people are also happy because for the 1st time we have a woman, i will say that i'm not that excited about having a woman prime minister because it is true that this is the 1st time, but usually women get to very high positions when they're extremely conservative. it, you know, in the, doesn't that you just think of better. think of uncle america think of marrying lip . and so usually women get to top positions, but they don't really undermine male. so side bulk dominance in economic, political and social terms. and in this case in particular we've got a woman come in for the 1st time as prime minister in our country. but her approach and her vision and her, they all the jews, extremely right wing. so i'm not that to be honest, i'm not that happy with what is happening, but at the same time will be
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a matter of the shift. not, they will be a shift, especially when it comes to this course. when it comes to the narrative that the governor will be putting through, but the room for maneuver is not that much. alright. you know, we need the money from brocklow. alright. we always say follow the money and we will. but let me pick up with elbow on a point that you mentioned about how do you think the political establishment is going to receive a female prime. it is the 1st of all why it's very, very challenging. because even allies, mr. connie and mr. v seems to wait to. ready for hadder mistakes and so it's really a really comfortable position for georgia maloney. and i think she must be very, very much and clever to resist. they're not the her political but to
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have political allies because. ready they were not so happy to be in the. ready positions to agree to the nominee, george in missouri as find names. so i think we're going to have as reach as he mentioned before, but not so much because in fact the space for mental book is not. ready so larger and so i think we're going to add some restriction being the speed of a cd drives some. ready probably the firms in this sense because both the judge and dawning course and i'll go and members have government clearly stated that they are not in favor of any new
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opening or to see the rights and any new opening to marsh migration or even minus migration. so this could be, this could make a difference to the previous, gone or unlocked to break down that perhaps we should start teresa on policy towards the e. you the balance of power within the e. you, is that going to change? now that we've got another gulf minutes from the far right in the heart of the e. u. now, i mean it's not just hungry in poland. right? how is the balance of power going to shape hot between the far right and the non fall right within the you? we can break it down that way. whereas oregon reached out to milady after she won and congratulated her. and he feels that having 3 countries is welcoming them, but it's unlikely that she will find a lot of things to align herself with or bunch to might be closer to poland because
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of her political agenda. but nevertheless, out of all 27, you members tape it scheduled to receive the, the bulk of the post covered 1900 recovery fund from the e u, which would be 200000000000 euro. and she cannot sacrifice that. so i expect for her to move more towards the center and she will have to keep you happy. her recent statements are pro nato pro e u and anti immigration. so i think that as long as she's colors within the lines of the rules and regulations and can guarantee that the money will be dispersed to the new to italy, she will have a fighting chance. we should also keep in mind that this is going to be one tough winter for the italians. energy prices are extremely high with the war in ukraine. also, you know, the post covered 1900 economic landscape in italy is very troublesome. and even
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before covered the had difficulties. so i think that her main agenda really should be focused on the economy. she is following in the footsteps of druggie, who is known as the technocrats. the public really liked him. they felt he was a safe pair of hands as a former head of the european of the c, b, the bank, the european central bank. and so they were almost very sad to go. it was because of political machinations. so she will have to really perform well, and if she follows maybe his policy, she might have a fighting chance. many i'm here in milan now and not many people expect her to last longer than spring, so she has a tough road ahead of her. all right, so i think all 3 guests are kind of saying the same thing on the point of maneuverability. the scope is limited because you've got to look at who's giving you the money. but i'm wondering valerie, looking at it from the perspective of you integration, that process. will her government make a difference in the speed,
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the tone of european integration now within the u. yes, i think it does make a big difference. moving from draggy to maloney draggy was definitely, i mean, managed for the 1st time perhaps the 1st time in history support italy really in a central position and integration prose. this and i can not expect maloney to be able to do the same. just remember, i mean how important drug was when he said whatever it takes. now can maloney say something similar, i don't thing. so for italy, this is not a wonderful thing. what has happened. but i would like our audience to remember that in fact, she has only like if the person wants to come in, i'll let you finish the thought. go ahead. valerie. then i'll bring in teresa again . yeah. now what i wanted to say is that she's only, we're always considering that she's got 26 percent of the people that voted. but the fact is that if we take into consideration the total number of voters,
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then we see that the major party is the party of the ones that did not go to vote 60000000 people. and she's only got 7000000 people voting for her, which means she knows very well that a lot of people in italy are not that happy about the results. it's basically the, our electro laura that made it possible. so she knows that she's got like only 15 percent of support. if you're looking at the total number of people that were entitled to vote, she knows that very well. so she's a tough woman, she's going to work hard. i'm short about that. and but she does know that she can do whatever she wishes, and i think that is very clear what she decided when it comes to immigration and the responsibilities she handed out to saline. we know very well he didn't get the minister of home affairs, which is the thing that he kept saying. i want that. i want that i want that, but he didn't get it. it's just the top official that responsibility for home affairs. okay. and also for the navy coastal, the see she invented a new ministry,
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it's to make sure that he wouldn't be responsible for the navy. so we're thinking about the coastal guard and what's gonna happen with the migration. nevertheless, i think that they will be symbolic shift since they can do much with in terms of money, they will definitely try to introduce some symbolic paula. you mentioned that language will try and pick up on. let me bring teresa and ask the question from this perspective, how will brussels deal with italy now on the 1st far right government since world war 2, you know, we've got 2 prominent figures, maloney, sal vini, have both made comments seen as supportive of the hungary and prime minister victor open in his tussle with brussels over the rule of law, democracy, corruption allegations and so on and so forth. is that going to impact the way brussels now look so bitterly and having a little difficulty hearing you. but just to paraphrase,
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but i think you asked was about how brussels will respond. we've already seen german chancellor sholtes really reach out to maloney saying that, you know, there were democracies, there are changes of leadership and were willing to work whoever with whoever is elected. i think there's also a beauty contest going on here because we see that our president, across france has a meeting this weekend with the pope and with the president of italy. and he has said that if protocol allows, he would like to meet with her on monday. so that is of great interest to me because he's almost racing to get to italy 1st. because france and germany traditional franco, german engine of the you is having a rough patch right now. and i think the fact that the crown that micron is reaching out to maloney means that he might see some possibility to build support with her in order to maybe get what he wants out of germany. so there's been a lot of difficult relations within the u. you recently jockey mac,
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ron and schultz. maybe you recall the famous or infamous train ride to chia, and they were all kind of squabbling about who had the better trained car. so i think that the fact of a chrome is reaching out to maloney now. so that perhaps he wants to have good relations with her and, and thinks he can get more done if she's onboard with his agenda as well. so i think there might be some interest you competition, but they understand you're at least the 3rd biggest economy inside you and you know the top 3 so they really do need to cooperate with italy at this point. all right, alberto, since we're talking about the train ride to care of at this point, when you think about italy's policy towards the ukraine war, it will that change? it's got too prominent figures, one of whom, while he's not in the cabinet, but berlusconi who's on tape boasting about how he exchanges vault cur, unwind with putin and salvage is on the record of saying, hey, you know,
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we need to roll back the western sanctions. yeah, i think that the time you position in the ukraine or. ready age they exceeded or dimension, they're just going to change a very, very detailed because ga, know me say's more than once. that usually is not going to change. it is a time to expand a she is nature membership or force. so i mean that in the nation position we remain absolutely the same. ready i would like also to add a comment on the possible policy of the european leaders and because i think with this problem, brass and the government should. ready easy no intention is no interest in pushing madonna in a corner in these moment or what. ready they can do is to create
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a job getting on to that the she can go closer and closer to hungary and more poly shit government, what she's not going to do at the moment. and. ready ready so she has a weak position in the european context and. ready so i think that we can manage trans germany and the others are not interested in pushing towards i'm glad i can see that valerie wants to say something. go ahead. yes, i just want to add something that it is true that i don't think that in the governor will change position with respect to a crane. but i am aware of the fact that poor people in our country are not that.
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and who's sick about the war and they get less and less than the desk the, the more they have to pay when it comes to their electric bill. so that the governor will have to cash out a lot of money if it wants to keep people calm. because really across the country, there is any, a rising sentiment in terms of, you know, the argument is we want peace yet, but how do you get peace? how do you get? obviously everyone wants peace, but the point is, are we gonna then ask the ukrainians to surrender? and a lot of people are not that interested them about their gas bill. and i'm very sorry about that, but that's the true. ok, i want to maybe shift gears a little bit because he mentioned immigration policy. how likely is it that we see maloney's plan of a naval blockade of libya? actually a merge valerie given, you know, the sort of realities that you've been talking about in division of ministries. yeah, it, that's what i was saying,
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malone invented this new ministry of the southern italy and the sea and responsibility for the protection of the coast has been handed over to a new minutes. not it's not on the sell beanies responsibility. so that's a clear a 10 by maloney to try and keep subbing. come and i would like us to remember that the boat for so be new went from 5 millions to 2 and a half. so he's a loser in the current election. and so is bedroom connie, a loser. the only winner in the center right camp is maloney and she's actually taken votes. not from other parts from the center left to take a boat from saline and from bedroom connie, so she knows that she is in a strong position compared to being a and bedroom, tony. and we have seen how she acted over the last days and the way she has been behaving, and saline is not on the let's say he, you sort of, for the 1st time, we don't see him all the time. you know, on the front page,
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is he trying to keep back, i guess, because he realizes that he's also in difficulty inside his own park. right? right. i don't know because the problem is that they might come up with some crazy idea just to keep their electric calm on, on that point, what practical changes should we expect then theresa, when it comes to immigration policy under this coalition government you know, that's a really good question, i think that remains to be seen. i think that this is always a popular issue, especially in italy, especially with her party. and i would agree with the previous speaker that there has been a redistribution of votes within the right wing. so it's not that she's taking votes from the other parties, it's just a read distribution of votes. so i think that as long as it kind of fits with the policy that you post is pretty clear about immigration. so this might help her get elected. but the reality might be very different on the ground. and i think the
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number one thing for her is the economy and the rhetoric. you say certain things to get elected right. and how you every hour maybe actually doing it in a different. yeah, i listen since we're talking about economy and that kind of takes us 2 divisions with in this coalition. maybe we should just take a look at some of the major economic challenges that are facing ga maloney. inflation is hit 8.9 percent in september that is the highest in nearly 3070 years . and that's partly due to the energy crisis facing europe, which i'm sure we're all aware of if we imported 95 percent of its gas before the ukraine war with 40 percent coming from russia that's obviously dropped now. now it's around 10 percent. then the, the colossal debt of more than 2 and a half trillion dollars. that's around the 150 percent of at least g d p. and there's the relationship with e. we've been talking about at least,
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been allocated nearly $200000000000.00 and you grants and loans as part of the post pandemic recovery fund. but this depends on reforms that must be implemented by 2026 in albertville when it comes to some of these issues. there are real divisions within this coalition. government right is not only on the issue of whether you support ukraine as maloney does oil more. putin friendly is sal beanie and bella, scone are, are painted. it's not only on the issue of way stand visit the brussels, fighting it out with hungry it's, it's on very economic issues and maloney seen as fiscally conservative salvia as a populace spend. right? yeah, absolutely right. and this is. ready really the more difficult for the, for the new volume and because georgia, my donate we the judges by had bought this according to the economy
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before lunch on the next seeks or one. and. ready she is are strongly in need to have good results in economy, but she is not an expert of the comics. she has very little experience in the feeder and also the people are closer to georgia, maloney, i'm not so good economics and economy affairs, economic managing. so daisy's really clear of danger for do you think the last do you think how botello is the coalition going to collapse? no, i don't think so for the moment but i think that they they need to be very. ready cautious and maybe help us on the spine makes more than other
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topics because on these find the borders and the optic opinion, we'd be very, very sensitive. all right, well, i'm afraid we are out of time. i know we would like to continue another show. another time for now, let's thank our gas, valerie fall, jan, alberta, tony and theresa fallon, and thank you to watching you can see the show again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion head over to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. it also joined the conversation on twitter handle. there was a j inside story. from me, sammy say that and the whole team for now, goodbye. ah ah.
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