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a cultural, something from the bag rollan for, for the mexican. and the other guy though it's should be essentially we dip the chile, of course the flight gets something very, very important and we will make it happen for them. and it really feels like we could be in mexico, doesn't it, is through a little a little mix. it was a little bit of like the plays at this tournament may be worth millions of dollars, but not all of the mustang and luxury linelle massey's argentina. and former champion spain have chosen capital university's campus where they can walk to their training ground, australia and student accommodation to albeit at the state of the art aspire sports academy. well, this is a knife, a student all i've ever been in the beds are very comfortable. as you can see, there are 2 beds in this room that the suckers will only have one player in a room like this. he'll have his own private ball through and that she another bedroom on the other side of his suite. 263 suites like this in this building. as you can see, there's a shared lounge where the players can sit chats have
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a cup of tea, watch some tv, and also a balcony with a view of the training pitch. so whether it's a bed in a dorm or luxury villa, the hotel managers can guarantee at least one thing. when the well cup champions a crowned, they'll be asking for a late check out. john again, raska al jazeera, doha with mrs. al jazeera. let's get around them. now the top stories, former prime minister, boris johnson, has pulled out of the race for britain's leadership. former finance minister richie sooner is now the front runner in the contest to succeed less trust as prime minister and conservative party leader. ukraine says russian allegations it may use an explosive laced with radioactive material are absurd and dangerous rushes defense minister is reported to have raised concerns during cause with his
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counterparts in the u. s. u. k. france and turkey. moscow has provided no evidence to back the claims harry force. it has more from keith and another potential escalation, even if it doesn't turn out to be an escalation on the battlefield. i think we can say to call this an escalation in terms of a diplomatic rhetoric being used in the, in the sheer number of calls for of him on the same day to the french, the turkish, the british and the americans all making the same claim that russia has, it says intelligence of the formation of some kind of dirty bomb for use by ukraine to blame russia for carrying out some kind of nuclear explosion inside ukraine. now this is something that has been, as you say, utley refuted, at least 9 people have been killed in an attack on a hotel in somalia. as shabanni has claimed responsibility for the siege in the southern port city of his mile. north korea's military says its fire 10 shells from
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multiple rocket launchers off its west coast. it says it was responding to warning shots fired by south korea at a north korean boat. sol says the vessel crossed the maritime northern limit line between the 2 countries. north korea has been carrying out a series of weapons tests, joined criticism from the u. s. ga maloney has taken power as italy's 1st female prime minister, the hand over from outgoing premier mario drive. he was made official. at a ceremony in rome, lunney was sworn in on saturday as the leader of the countries must far right government since world war to those that headlines up front is next dumpling in bonds with an important part of interest culture. it's no surprise in many people want to work with one thought and one previously trying to both family expectations and cultural tradition. i hear good. now with the reality of working in the giving you district body
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with the u. s. state of oklahoma is set to execute 24 people by december 2024. that's nearly one person a month for the next 2 years. this we got up front. we took a closer look at the criminal legal structure in the u. s. we asked why the death penalty is still legal and explore the flaws in the system that lead to thousands of wrongful convictions. with 2400 people on death row and executions up in the last year. the debate on whether the death penalty should still exist in the united states and the 21st century is back in the spotlight. supporters of the death penalty argue that it is the only way to deliver justice against those who commit the most heinous crimes and can be carried out in a humane way. opponents say that it is unfairly applied and that it cannot be carried out without violating the constitution's ban on cruel and unusual
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punishment. so can the death penalty ever be justified? and is there really a way to execute someone in a humane way? joining us to discuss this is sister helen, pre john anti death penalty activist catholic nun and spiritual advisor to those on death row. she is the author of the books, dead man walking the death of innocence and river of fire. sister helen, thank you so much for joining us on up front. 11 people have been executed in the united states so far in the year 2022 this year with at least another 8 scheduled to die before the end of the year. you spent more than 3 decades counseling people sentence to die. you've accompany people to their executions and your view, what determines who is put to death by our criminal legal system. when you look at it, look at the deaths in 2021. it's solely up to a prosecutor to an attorney general or even to the president the united states.
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that's what basically fundamentally broken in the way the supreme court set up the death penalty in the greg decision in 1976. they said, we're going to set the criteria to kill people that the government can take their lives. that it's the worst of the worst murder, which has been impossible to know. who knows the difference between a quote, ordinary murder and the worst and the worse. and it was coupled with complete discretionary power to prosecutors to see death from square one. so when any crime is committed, when any murder a prosecutor is never has to seek death and then along the way during the appeals, it is up to them to see it through and to see that the person dies. it's a fundamental flaw in the way the supreme court said the death penalty and that when we look now,
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most of the united states has shut down the death penalty bound state, louisiana. that in the eighty's killed 8 people in 8 and a half weeks had to have an execution and 20 years. we're shutting it down, but there are pockets where we see killings like in texas because the discretion is up to the prosecutor when you, when you look in those states where there's louisiana, texas, mississippi, alabama. it's not just the state, it's who in those states is being executed. it's whose. 1 death is being a greenlit through the discretion of the prosecutors, i'm thinking specifically about poor people, things specifically about black and brown population. this isn't a universal death tony crisis seems to be one of particular populations. why? i mean, the legacy of slavery is with us. it's written in every institution, we have more, but definitely in the criminal justice system. and when you look at the over 1500 people have been executed in this country,
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8 out of every 10 of them were killed because of the killing of a white person. a victim has to have some status in society and it plays out and race big time, and black on black murder, hard to gives a blip on the, on the prosecutors radar screen. because race matters who you care about and whose death you care about matters in this country, most people will never actually witness an execution in their own life with their own eyes. executions are carried out quietly. there's little information about the process itself that's made public. some states limit the number of witnesses that can be present at executions. and even they are typically shielded from a large part of the lethal injection process with an actual curtain that they put up to prevent people from seeing it. but what you've been there, what can you tell us about what is like a company, someone to their death torture in the united nations convention against torture is
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defined as a mental or physical assault on someone rendered defenseless. and that's a really big thing about when you're going to be executed, that you're rendered completely defenseless. and imagine these are human beings, imaginative, conscious. human beings, when you have consciousness and imagination, you anticipate dying, you die in your dreams and nightmares a 1000 times before you drive because you anticipate it. there is no way the killing of conscious imaginative human beings can ever be humane. yes, i've been there. i've been there with 6 human beings have been killed, about 3 electrocuted 3 lethal injection. lethal injection is every bit as terrible as electrocution because they're the supreme court allowing states to experiment
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with ways to kill people. oklahoma right now with the people they are blind up, one is richard glosser. he said 3 last meals and almost killed 3. tom snatched away from death. that too is torture. there is no way you can say you're doing this. he mainly my big thing and being with human beings who were killed in front of my eyes was to tell them, look at my face. you have a dignity, no one can take from you. i will be the face of dignity and love for you. look at me when they do this, but mark, it's such a helpless feel and there's nothing you could do. so that's why i'm a voice out there. yeah. and it appears that part of why so much of this is shrouded in mystery, is so that people can't see the brutality of it. they can't see the torture. because they're proponents of the depth who would say, well, the reasons not torture is because this can be carried out humanely. they say that a person being executed does not need to endure needless pain and suffering while
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being killed. now again, you've been an execution witness for 3 decades. you are very familiar, intimately familiar with the u. s. execution process. is there a humane way to execute somebody? absolutely not. it's always going to be torture. and i gotta tell you more. this was the talking point i had in my dialogue with the catholic church, specifically with pope john paul, the 2nd who came before frank pope francis. then i took him there. i said, when i'm walking with amanda execution, any shackled hand and foot surrounded by 6 guards, who can walk 30 steps, be strapped down to be killed. any whispers to me, please pray god, hold up my legs. where is there any in viable dignity to the human person being rendered defenseless and kill? it was a telling point i was part of a discussion on what the only one that influence the catholic church. but when pope
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francis and 2018 changed the teaching of the church about the death penalty, it was precisely the point of the vital but dignity of all life, even those guilty of crimes. and we can never entrust over the government that right to think they have the wisdom to be able to decide who should dot, which now aligns the catholic church. right with the united nations universal declaration of human rights. article 3. d. an alien bull. right to life of every human person because they are a human person, you can never take their life for me. that is political rhetoric spinning that or yeah, it's the only just punishment. look at with the victims of saw that completed a pack or see about victims. they're going to wait 17 years on average to watch a person be killed their eyes and that supposed bring him peace. that's political
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rhetoric that's not to reality. 19 out of $27.00 death penalties, faith, have secrets these statutes on the books, and many concealed the sources of their lethal injection drugs. most states prevent witnesses from viewing at least some part of the execution. how is the secrecy legal? how can you have an accountability it can you have any accountability? in fact, if everything is so opaque that is by design added secret. there have been at least 2 court cases, tried to make executions, public, and they have all been defeated. the, the basic secrecy is it's done behind prison walls with only a few witnesses. they keep the curtain drawn, my poor don't be gillis williams. he had an i q a 653 years after he was executed, the supreme court decided, and atkins. you can't kill mentally challenged people. yeah. fine. it came too late
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for dolby, but they couldn't find the vain. he was scared a needle to couldn't be with it. i was on the other side of that curtain and he was taking too long to keep waiting, waiting. they tried to find it in one arm. okay. they got they even hear that that's going to have been to science because they don't want to glitch. they couldn't find it in the 2nd arm, they tried his leg, then they finally put the needle in his neck. and finally then, and it took about what 2530 minutes poor don't be there on the table waiting to be killed. so we got to bring it close to the people, we have to bring it to the p. and that's what my next workers can be about. how we, the people are shutting down the deaf education, education, education, let the witnesses been there, get out there during the 2020 election, president biden promised that if elected, he would work to pass legislation to eliminate the death penalty at the federal
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level and incentivized states to follow the federal government example, amnesty international points out that other than a moratorium of federal executions his administration has then very little to make good on this pledge. given that most executions a carried out in republican states and any significant public policy changes would need to happen through passage from congress. what concrete steps should biden take to have some progress on its own? these promises? let's come back some slack because he's handling a lot of things. he absolutely, i believe is going to save life. do you know this was the 1st presidential election we've ever had where a president came out against the death penalty, even though mama didn't come out again to death. and he said there are some cases which are so terrible that you have to allow for the definitely want to allow for that your laundry, everything. and so he's got to take it step by step,
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i believe is going to do the right thing. but he's got to do it. there are 2 actions are going to happen, federal level and the state level. we got to work at the state level with the people. but i do believe that the present that in the end will do the right thing. and the right thing would be before he leaves office to commute all the senses on death row, that people will not be able to be put to death. well, we will certainly see if that happened system and thank you so much for joining us . thank you. great jim, from the death penalty we turn now to another issue affecting our legal system. false convictions, back conversation coming up next on upfront. ah, innocent until proven guilty. it's a fundamental tenant of the u. s. judicial system and it's the backbone of the criminal process. however, at least 5 percent of the car, so population is wrongfully convicted. that means that about one in every 20
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judgment puts an innocent person behind bars. more often than not, it's a person of color. there is now some recourse within the system, but exonerations are lengthy, complicated, and legal resources are not easily accessible. so what does this say about the u. s . criminal justice system? joining us to discuss is advocate and author anthony. anthony was released in 2015 after spending 28 years on death row. falsely convicted for robbery and double murder in 1985. he's now community educator at the equal justice initiative. anthony, thank you so much for joining us on up front. you were wrongly convicted for to capital murders in birmingham, alabama. almost 4 decades ago, police falsely identified you. they then searched your mother's house. they found your mother's revolver and linked you to the killings without any other physical evidence. as a result, you spent nearly 30 years in prison talk to me about the, the specific factors that you would say influence your arrest and your conviction.
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well, let me 1st say thank you for having me, but all the toners often did not fan are gone and my mother house, i am the one who told them that my mother only smith weston handler. and i told him, because i knew that i hadn't committed a crown and now was brought up to always tell the truth. and then they are told the truth in little did i know that they would get to go tell a lie like the gone match. and it would cost me almost my life in this system is a system. they treat you better if you're rich and guilty, opposed to report them. so adam, have the mind to high, decent defense. and therefore, the system, if you don't have the money, cannot convince you. but he can come pick 2 more easily. if you're born black in paw and when you have to rely on a state appointed turner,
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which i had to rely on. and so conviction was very easy for them to obtain. and since me today or no one that i was in the suit, they didn't make an honest mistake. they did it on purpose. this system is work in exactly the way it was designed to work. and it was designed to put me in the car behind the prison wall for many people. they can wrap their minds around a mistake. they can even read their minds around police. believing that you're guilty and being a little over zealous in closing the case because they know they got the right guy . but in your case, you're saying they just made the stuff up. they lied and it's not just your case. we hear about false confessions. ah, we hear about government misconduct planted evidence, this kinds of stuff all the time. it's hard for many americans, though many people around the world to wrap their mind around the idea that these
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things are happening wilfully, that these aren't just hard working. police officers who sometimes make a mistake. well, you know, i can tell people that are coming to town. this is happened noonish from 1800 to the 19 on back in 18. 1900. a white woman could say a black man all. ready long he was char, total crowd, normally of a dish, all minimum lucian inch, no evidence. and so we still have this modern day linton. we just have a different so we're starting to see the reports coming out as people look into these exonerating cases. and we find the kind of flaws you're talking about now on a positive note, is that we're seeing more more exonerations in recent years. ah, are we had it in the right direction? we shouldn't we have to get to that point all been exonerated? i've been exonerated in heaven not being offered or given. one painting have not
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even been offered an apology. all when i try and filed for compensation for 30 years or my life until that says i was not found guilty about jewelry. i am not eligible to receive minute thing. so once the charges are dropped and it's, it's been realised effectively that you spent 28 years in prison for something you didn't do and that the case against you was manufactured. what does the state seine you do? do? he said they did the power as they say anything they haven't said anything from i'm will be honest with, you know, we only went to i didn't hear him say these words, what i was told, tell them will be glad that we just in execute. and then to handle that, just be glad we didn't execute him in him being the inward, they used a legit allegedly that, that is a that that's a, that,
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that's an incredibly i mean, i don't even with the same, it's overwhelming and that's the end of the journey, i want you to take me step back, the talk to me about the fight to, to get the conviction overturned. all it took brash themes and me. it would just finished it 16 years to finally get a court united states supreme court to rule america. great. well, they granted me a new trial and goes back to birmingham, the state of alabama comedy and is a young or it is with great sadness that we inform you that we lost to go on. and so while we thought man was looking for the going in the bullets which they trained me all, all they had actually old expert to come in and re examine the bullets and the gloom. the same man is saying in mac, started years ago 30 years later say the gone, do not match to wait the in the force. well, as you mentioned,
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you didn't receive any money. you didn't receive any reparations. after your conviction was overturned by the supreme court, despite the fact that in alabama state senate up proposal ah, was supposed to give you $1500000.00 of compensation for wrongful conviction as possible. but it's, it's night uniform. it varies from state to state, not to mention the process can be fraught with complications as exonerates trying to access the the money that they're do. how is it that somebody can be falsely convicted? it's been decades imprisoned and still has to go through so many hurdles just to get restitution. oh izzy. i will give you 2 reasons. live in the state of alabama and be black. that's the to do now. you know, i saw quote for 30 years of being in solitary confinement. all i will know will
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make it, you know, this chairman say that i'm 3. i'm just release ashley and go through all the all feelings in motion. oh really. and there's another execution i haven't been offered to see a psycho psychology or they just opened the door and say, hey, all, try the liam the best life you can, but we mackerel helped you one way or another. i've sit on death row 20 years at witness scripted. ringback for me being executed, i have to remind myself that i was so close to the, i mean it is a trauma to, to what you're describing, sir, that it would sound like you need therapy. you need some kind of response to post traumatic stress from being in a kind of in the kind of that kind of context for so long. so no, so when i think about bet and 1500000 and i'm, i'm sticking there just for a 2nd because i want to go to understand what you need there for. this isn't like
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you're trying to make a pay this. am i getting a lot of re last 30 years? what, what does that money necessary for? is that more than necessary for me to get out and sign a decent doctor they can treat me and perhaps help me or it oddly for i don't have all money tied up in his so security i was didn't put anything in his so security for 30 year or so they are who i am that's coming out all i needed to live on because who has some one they've been on there for for 30 years. have no computer experience tail, nothing. and most people is afraid of it because you've been locked up. lack of a cage animal. this system is, was design associated to put millions of color and we will help people to believe that we're dealing with mass incarceration. we not dealing with national concentration. we didn't want to leave foremost. there was
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a study by the american psychological association. this year, i found that 80 percent of exonerated people experienced at least one serious traumatic event while incarcerated and more than half of their group showed significant signs of p t. s. d. what should people know about the trauma that's experienced by people who are wrongly convicted, imprison it, the people that know that when we put in some means and women are special and therefore all that traumas there will. because we don't have the money to go out in the c k, qualify at all psychiatric onto training least kiddos back on the right roll. at some point it goes, hit you and you will all just cry like a baby. little scream, michael, are so long as chasing you. and so no one knows when i go to return. there's an
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execution in the state vall. ah, i knew exactly wouldn't it in made is going through. i'm no exactly what is taking place because i was there for 30 years on this is something you can't turn off and turn all i do when it is best and i can and i will lord in the same if the state of alabama gave me a 1000000 and a half dollar. it wouldn't come close to trying to make me whole. oh, it is just a shame that we have a balcony in this country. and me and women goals to death row and stay for decade . and a lot of states say you're free to go in there, see it they'll you know, reparation nailed and nothing. and the egg is doting, giving you something and the egg is still we doing your fable. we didn't execute that. you should be thankful that she should go home and be quiet. and yes,
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do i think there, at any time they can knock on the door and sake idea something else they did at one time out of me. and so all that plays in my mind, every now, every day, all of these plays in, you've psychologically called of what they did to you before. and so people see me, they see a hampton looking man, but they don't see this goss in the mill to the all that is inside of me. i have no one else within. thank you for your work and i wish you luck. i hope you get justice and i hope you get everything you deserve from state of alabama. thank you so much for joining us on up front. thank you for having that is our show up front. we'll be back next.
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