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fighting in to john. it is created more turmoil a year after a military takeover scuffled the transition, the civilian rule. so what can bring stability to suit on? this is inside story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. the south of sudan has seen some of the worst violence between rival ethnic communities in months. and these 220 people have been killed in the past week. security forces have been deployed to calm the situation in blue nile state. near the border with ethiopia, the houser and bertha tribes have been fighting since july for access to land and resources. witnesses reported heavy gun foreign homes burn to the ground.
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international agencies are urging all size to allow them to enter the region. the fighting is triggered protests in the state capitol, calling for the governor to be sacked. the u. n says at least 1200 people have been displaced. unholiness these displaced now in school of large groups for these habits are not fit to be cameras and doesn't have the proper health condition. there are a lot of complications and we can't handle the situation because the flow displaced is still ongoing. that is why we are calling on 8 organizations and friendly countries and the federal government to fin the necessary aid. while the ethnic violence has created more instability and sudan a year after, the military takeover soldiers shot dead, an anti cru protester in the capital call table. on sunday, i've been protest throughout sedans since army chief father, albert han seats power in october, last year, and ousted a civilian lead. government talks resuming the democratic transition,
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have made little progress. the comic situation is lessening the world bank says inflation is at 380 percent. a 3rd of su dan's 45000000 people don't have enough to eat poly. we are demonstrating to make one thing clear. we don't want political compromise partnership with the army negotiations or a political solution. we want to overthrow the crew for that, we are ready to pay the price even with our lives. let's take a brief look back at su. dan's political up hazel. in the past few years, beginning in 2019, that's when a long time needed. i'll busha was pushed out then a 3 year power sharing agreement was established with a bill handled as a prime minister. he served for only about a year in the military, arrested, him seized power and quashed protest against the takeover. since then, the military has expanded its powers. general abdel father albert hon with sworn in as head of the ruling council protest against the rule of being held nearly every
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week since october last year. ah, let's bring in our guests now and in a cart whom we have had jude cooker political activist and member of griffin. that's a non violent resistance movement. and emma nama, we've got abdul, her league shade, that's a student here. he's receiving his lawyer and political analysts. very good to have both of you on the show. thanks for joining us. i had today is a loss of instability in sudan at the moment. it's a complicated picture, but let's start by focusing on the blue nile states and these extraordinary levels of violence that we're seeing at the moment. what is the situation there? now? it's, it's horrifying. the pictures are coming from there. the videos that are coming for there are just simply horrifying. it's really hard to look at. we've been calling our friends there and they're just talking about how the humanitarian knowledge
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stability is really bad. and they need your medicare and help and what not. what's really complicated is because it's tribal conflict, and these tribal conflicts are rooted in political issues and rooted in feeling that you're not heard and all of those things. but they're really being complicated . and then that what the government right now has them middlebury government is only security measures, do tackle it. and these major is definitely not working. so right now that people are left with fighting each other, fighting the military, like a total loss of control over the over the blue nile. and there's no solution because the country, the only thing they have in their hands is weapons and these are not working right now. what's needed is 2000000000 solutions. and as the current government is unable to even start processing card understanding the depth of the flu,
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they will be looking at a little bit more at the, the government and call to me and just a moment for the moment hellig shave, i want to just focus a little bit more on this situation in doing all because this was a relatively calm state until july as far as i'm aware. so why have the tension is being breaking out then? and again now when thank you. thank you so much for, for having me. i think, i mean, broadly we need to understand that, you know, a tribal conflicts us with and they are not new. they are renewed every now and then because of the lack of governance or her to me. and this has reflection in the, in the, in the region. but what we need to understand is that there has never been an inclusive process in the blue aisles. or the south school define which are basically the areas where the conflict on our corrupting. so it just started in july as part of a dispute over land. it has always been, you know,
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just gets over over land. but this, again, i'm on a relation by, you know, politicians, how to use it and also need to understand and keep in mind that you know, the ncp, the national congress party when the, when they have been tough old and the, in the fall of years regime this has left the seventy's with a vacuum in these areas, and each, each, each group are using that vacuum in a different and a different way. and this creating different allies between, you know, within the, within the, within the scope. so we need to understand that and keep that in mind. so it was relatively calm, but not necessarily will lead to any struggle if, if we don't feel like you how to i just how far you agree with that. because many do say that what were the thing right now and not normal cycles of traditional violence that they do have the added factors of being infiltrated by all the sudanese who are competing for resources for power. do you agree with that? i totally agree with other guests. i mean basically this level of erosion can
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happen in other places and that blue nile is shocking because they've been more peaceful because there's less tribal conflicts in the past in blue nile. so it is shocking at this happening, but it is something that we're used to in other places, parts of sudan and right now because of the situation in that bill of the off the s b l, a. lead by my like i got to actually become a, we'll civilian government and, and make the people who and i feel that they all equal. so all of these things. so the political part is definitely a big part when, when the government fails to show people that they can control, they can bring just isn't, were not people revert back to their tribes. and when you go back to your tribes, all these issues that have been building on for years come come to the forefront and that's what's happening. the inability to solve the conflict is not in sudan. always going to have these conflicts,
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but you always have to have ways to solve these complex. and right now there is no way to solve these conflicts, and that's why they're rough and when they are wrapped, there's no way to hold them back. i guess what i'm trying to get to the bottom of is whether the this particular vines is rubbing because it's being ignored by the military government in cartoon. or because it's being stokes, by the military. so both, both in the same level, it's more like in able, they're not able to control them. so it's not that they're using them to, to do anything over there. but these problems are there. there's a huge economic issue because of the one year into the qu, economic economy of the countries collapsing. there's all these issues that need to be dealt with. there is all these promises that were given after their illusion, and all of these have not been answered. so now you're just sitting there waiting for, for things to improve and they're getting worse and where they're getting worse,
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people are trying to solve. there's no government to talk to. so they start going back to the tribal routes and these issues erupt. and that's more like what's happening in, in blue and in other parts of the country. there's more conflict because you have people like r 7 were not. but in blue nile it's more the failure of the government to actually act or to become or be able to even address the issues that are happening in the country a year into not having a government that can run the country. so actually, what would you say are the reasons for the government failing to act? i think it's pretty much super competition. i mean, i'm jude mission talk about. i mean, if the car has to be said that he's abrasion more north, which is part of the uber peace agreement trial that i was in the mountain. i'm heading to sidney's also on the bridge and he's not part of the supreme. and so you could, you could look at it from that, from that uncle. and also this is not
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a conflict. it's not, you might have been in a conflict with the government before that agreement before the 2019 malcolm just to show ration. so he's always been part of the equation in how things should fall . so if you look at that, and then you look at how, you know, different community they're trying to take the or a different positions. you would understand that the technological i'm fine, it's just tribal and that in that sense that if you don't find a solution to the, to the, to do it to, to, to a piece along laughing piece in the blue, topical defined benefit amount is you will likely see this repeating older and older? i think this is part to part of a job isn't not that they leave the military, but share affiliate steven the pro democracy movement. they're all too busy in khartoum. focusing on getting power. we are, they are too busy. this is one thing, but there's also, i think it's not, there's no interest at the moment. i got to strike
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a piece in the internal mountain. i'm the end of the month and there is no interest whatsoever to tween negotiate that agreement to manage, to make it meaningful for these people to bring peace and justice and security. so if you look at it from that perspective and also, you know, the lease and then for the day she and her to me, they are focusing on getting a striking deal, which is basically a compromise rather than a political solution driven by the genuine political process so you would, you would understand how things are difficult now to solve in the, in the blue not, i mean, who had huge rather these problems, these tensions, they stem from access to land. certainly the house would never given indigenous land, right. they never indeed been given sydney's citizenship, the job, a peace deal. it was supposed to address these land rights issues. what happens? why did it fail to implement these policies? okay, i think i think to, to bring this into,
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into perspective because it seems very complicated. there's, there's an ulcer that and the also that it's tribal to that spanish speaking lad, having all the issues. and there's this idea of a new where it's citizenship, where after poster evolution to that, it's a sudan where we can become a country right now when, when, really, when, when you trying to solve the issue, by having this piece agreement that is basically talking about the rights of different groups that it's historical right? that are right based on your ethnic group and what not. it also always makes you to go back to your ethnic groups and the more and you want to strengthen your ethnic group. so you get these rights and this makes a conflict between the different ethnic groups. so, and this is why we have all these tribal conflicts because really you get power because you're tribal, your travel power or because you have rebel group and you have arms. so, and this is the ultra them so really with, with idea of the old today, what happened? did you buy agreement and all that you,
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we cannot move forward and you always have these issues because of that. so there of illusion was always about less, become a country less let it become part of your writing, the constitution, it's all be equal. let's solve all these problems. the root cause of these problems that divide all of us and make us all not have a certain identity and not be part of this one punch on the same level. and the, this is the idea of the new design of the revolution. and these are the answers, so that as long as you try to solve the issue, not in the roots of them, just tried to solve on the surface you're just unable to. and you never going to get to the point of a government and you're never going to get to the point of a country you never going to get to the point of ending these. these issues of land are the issues that are deep, rooted in where you coming from, which here you came to this country, the house you just been there for 100 years or 20 years and these girls have been long. and so all these issues are just historical issues that have the rooted
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issues that need to be solved. and this will never be solved by the 2 by 3 men, or by, by having these smaller ways of dealing with, with the problem in small by let's bring him back re l. jagger. i'll med needs a visiting researcher at the doha institute of graduate studies. good to have you with us. a jude was saying that you can divide sudan into olds who don and new suit on for looking at the crux of the violence has broken out in the blue nile state. how can we overcome that for it's a for thank you for me. she had no, but you need to speak to you today moment as well. so suddenly i'm in the country, but just get your question. let me just say it's in a post colonial country. it's not, it's not unheard of to have fiber conflict on it because that's something has been around. the difference is, in the last 30 years, i think they have to share investment from the authority. and i mean here,
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the regime they invested in extreme policies are delightful. i have to add, in the aftermath of over 20 years, 2021. they have been even your best in tribalism politics, ethnic politics, and losing tribes of the substitute on a proxy, forgetting for the power. so from that perspective, i would say on, but she played the game where she's redeem always knew the game in that full. they played it in the south in la donna and everyone out of the well. but the difference is they used to be identified, some sort of command security. i used to have a control over what they were doing, the online research and try other tries and they have always had their minds. a
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plan i'm going to speak. i think it's just, it's the weakest point in history. i would argue there is no vomit of the day in the countries that could say that they have control over the country or not even the company. i don't even have control over the military check was, you know, the lower, the risk comes up on it. think you're going to see what's going, what's going on in tonight is not something that is outside the ordinate. the difference is now we have an official government investment in making ethnic division and actually using tribes the we'll divide in, we actually use it as a way of controlling you by 20 all trick divides. it's not something you, but it does because no one really has the ability to control how. course in terms of talking to all, should i need to done. i think the country is going to transition. we are
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witnessing all the institutions. i'm not talking about talking about so you're not make and dying. i'm talking with nick try but this year they don't have that ability to control the country that we're used to be. but also the fusions that we're talking about becoming includes other kind of political shapes. and phones are far away from being utilized. we can, well let's, let's just jump in that because i to help you get the extent to believe or think that to don is going through a transition. we've caught up the fatter elbow pledging to step aside for a civilian government pledging elections. do you think that's going to happen? do you think we'll see the rise of the resistance committees into government? i think this is it will and it will know what happens. so basically, pledging to transition are no longer in transition. we have a coo, basically
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a government, which is the fact government in place of cartoon. but the government is a military. we don't have a great council, which is basically, i think from the nature of the depletion of critical for will have civilians which is not which not which, which is no longer the case. now i think in july they said we can have a we need the civil going to stick together and agree on the way forward that is unfair because he's basically saying for the, for the, for democracy movements to say with the, with, with the movements and the groups that supported the, the, the military, whether this will lead to anything. and the, the dialogue we are seeing currently for to them is basically just track a political compromise rather than, you know, solving the problem. because you have the democracy movement. you have the, are sees, you have those who have been, you know, not part of the qu, they are one camp. and then you have, you know, the military and, or supporting them of the, to, from the, from the critical part is d r or the job
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a piece, signatories. there are also another come and then you have also haven't been part of the process. so i think, i think the, the, the question would be whether if you're going to have an election with international committee to recognize and agree with the election, will it be a fair election? do the sudanese, do they have the ability to go into the elections, doing the political parties ready for that next? i think the answer to these questions are, you know, is, is, is no, i don't know much is actually, you know, how do you agree with that? but now is not the right time to bring elections. so i totally agree. i totally agree that to actually get to the point where you can have elections, you need the traditional period. like he just said, it's completely stop in. we're in a military no period has stopped the basics to become, to go into watering or not. you need media, you need rules, you need certain situations to be put in place. they're all not there. so we cannot
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actually act like we can go into, into democracy. we need the tensional period. we need a real sense period not like what happened before and, and we don't have that right now. so right now we're back into a state of revolution and i feel like what is really amazing over a year into it is the maturity level off. there is just the committees. and right now i think in the street the consciousness of people industry has reached a level where they realize that the 1st step into democracy is to have a parliament and to have a parliament that is a representative parliament. that's real. and this is what we didn't have during the time. and, and what do we want to start with? not the prime minister is a parliament that then can do the prime minister. and then we can and reach this, the bases where you can have a democracy to come to say, one thing i want to correct the resistance committees are never going to go into power. okay, not a committees. what the reasons can we do want to do is they wanna oversee the
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creation of a parliament that it starts on the grass root level, local parliament, that then end up into a national government. whether it be a jack, how many do you see a girl a parliament based from the golf route, growing from the grassroots level as a realistic, immediate prospect for food on i don't think so. i can be on a rather really complex and i think she can hear from a complete develop propose that i think if the country has a job to stay unified and avoid going into cowards and brother, or they have to be a serious commitment to dialogue that would bring a pro democracy group as the fundamental group that speaking to the dreams people. but at the same time, if we don't reach enough to provide to get messy for some type of party
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to put the foundation for government, i don't think i get the i think that committees are really fight body and i don't want to be committed. i think what they're, what company is very far from what we entities i understand that might be what they might think that there is specific bodies that people are going to use. but these are not fine, but i'm not, we got idea but, but far from that i don't even know based on what i mean, we can actually get to talk to the apartments. i did that kind of situation, but i think it could be one of the brother that know that would bring in different political. this is not just fine, is they are ok up to do do the right thing is if you got out of the way,
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how do we create a judgment group that has the papers or something. we're going to open that ticket filled out word very briefly to halle. what needs to happen immediately to stop this instability, m bruno state, and west quarter font spreading throughout sou dawn? i think what you need, what you need to look at, it's basically you need to be genuine political process in the, in the, in the country and political process once it's in there and hard to me to make things easier for the travel volunteers to stop in the region, otherwise, tribal communities will have to take a side based on the political competitions between between which is basically a current and evident tool. and this, this is we reach and into, to, to, to this competition. we're going to see more of this conference. i've seen it in july and not to up thing again. it's september and october. okay, i apologize. we will have to leave the discussion that had huge cook joe colleague
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