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yes, and of course everybody will have their own personal favorite. but that's the highlight . is this the very jersey warned by diego married on a 1986 when he saw the infamous hand of god gold against england. there are also miniature models of each of the world cup host stadiums and a special tribute to host nation cutter. the 1st middle eastern country to host the competition. the people that they will arrive, they will remain and that they the better plan, touch down you know and go ha until they leave. but they will have an enjoyable estate and cover they will test the hospitality of papa the will. the football exhibition is part of the wide, a 321 cutter olympic and sports museum, but no doubt in 2022. this is the center of attraction at the venue. peter stammered al jazeera doha ah.
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type of picture of the headlines here now does air a russian president vladimir putin says the world is facing its most dangerous decades since world war 2. speaking in moscow, he accused the west of inciting the war that he had no regrets about it, thought and also deny that moscow's appearing to use nuclear weapons, despite raising the prospect an earlier comments with national raising you workable, craig and local. the purpose of today's foster on nuclear threats and the possible use of nuclear weapons is very primitive. i have already said that this effort dictated by western countries federal dropped their attempt to put pressure on all parts. spence in international communication include in neutral or friendly countries, ends in nothing, and they are looking for additional arguments in order to convince our friends or neutral states that we all need to send to gator against russia. meanwhile, russia suffered setbacks on the battlefield in recent weeks fighting has been intensifying in ukraine's eastern regions with russian forces shelling the city of
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back moved in the don't ask region. what in the south ukrainian forces are pushing towards her son, which is under rational control and rushes renewed its assault on ukraine's energy infrastructure, shutting facilities across the country. ukraine faces a 30 percent shortfall, electricity. most cities are suffering power cups. the world is facing its 1st truly global energy crisis. that's according to a new report by the international energy agency, prices of fuel, gas and electricity are going up driven partly by the you will warn you, crane, and restrictions on oil exports by the world's top, but uses the 2022 world energy outlook, says the crisis may mark a historic turning point to green energy. israel and lebanon have signed the u. s. broker deal that lays out there maritime board and the mediterranean sea for the 1st time. the agreement enables both countries to conduct offshore exploration, oil and gas. in uganda, at least one child has died from the boat. a virus and 5 of the children had tested positive and the capitol compiler. uganda has so far recorded
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a 109 cases and 30 people have died. the african unions public health body says the boat outbreak in uganda is under control despite a spike in cases in the capital. so those are the headlines that is continues here now to 0 off inside storage states. we've done so much bye for now. ah. the 1st stop saying that ending the war in ethiopia is normally antic why region are underway in south africa, but fighting has intensified. so what are the chances of bringing in the conflict to an end and what does each side hold to gain? this is inside story. ah
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully battle. if european government and rebels from the northern to guy region are holding their most high level talks yet aimed at ending 2 years of war. but fighting has intensified on the battlefield as both sides seek to strengthen their negotiation position. as is high agreed earlier this year collapse in august, thousands have been killed in the conflict and many more have been forced from their homes. the african union is leading the talks in south africa with nigeria, former president, and was in general boss and joe and kenny as were kenyatta acting as brokers international calls for an end to the war, have been mounting in recent weeks. the african union commission chair will suffolk, he welcome the start of the talk saying he was encouraged by the early
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demonstration of commitment to peace by the parties. he plays the african unions continued support for a process to silence the guns towards a united, stable, peaceful, and resilient. ethiopia. so how did ethiopia get here? while the to grand people's liberation front t p. a left dominated his politics for nearly 30 years until prime minister abbey ahmed came to power in 2018. in november 2020 abbey ordered a military operation against rebels in to gray. he accused the group were attacking military bases. later that month he declared the operation finished in june, the t gray people's liberation front. we captured its regional capital mckelly. by july, it had advanced into the regions of afar in am herrera. on october, 11th, ethiopian forces launched a ground offensive and air strikes. a week later, the following month, the government declared a state of emergency after the t p. a left re took towns on a road leading to the capital, addis ababa. the northern region has been under
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a blockade for 17 months with no banking, telephone, and internet services, nor media axis. while human rights campaigners have warned of potential abuses by both sides in the conflict. me one, comprehensive, credible, independent investigation into all that. what city is committed in this conflict? so we want humana that an 8 i us as immediate as possible and we want the internet not and the regional community to respond to that situation in a manner which is deserving of that, that gravity of this question the well, let's bring in august now for today's inside story from addis ababa and while mc say, a journalist and political commentator from sun valley in sweden to lie gibber,
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michael associate editor at to got a website documenting possible war crimes in to grey and from nairobi. william davidson, senior year analyst at the international crisis group. thank you for joining us on inside story today that he thought with you. and while i'm in at is have about looking at the big picture. how hopeful are you today that an end might be inside to the war into cry. thank you very much for having me. ah, i think the fact that both saves of agreed for this b stock is on an encouraging and her as a positive signal that are, are the people both sides or whether they are to grants or the to e took out in general, or hoping from dispute stock, sir, because it will be, or it would bring an end to suffering. gov to people not only integrate region but also in the neighboring get our solar and the whole country in general. so people
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are hoping that this would be an into her, to the suffering of her people who are ah, i've been going through a very severe challenge. and while i am, what are the parties discussing precisely in south africa? ah, in my opinion, the 1st her you should be about her ceasefire and ah, ah, pro our leader demanded pride from the government said would be in a magenta. ah, they want the t p a left to put arms down in talk. and on the other side, the t p a lift may demand to r ah, a be a raised to forms a terrorist list in there to get some amnesty for it's really does. as he said, the priorities 80 gone down the disk are before they go into the detail of what will happen after that, or what would be the fate of t p. i live and work with bidder. ah, region sir,
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administration and how it should are going to normal transition and or just issues would be the next step in my opinion, a number of issues on the table. no dar tech lie in sweden if i can come to you and looking at the big picture and to alan says he's optimistic because the 2 sides are finally talking. what are the chances you think of bringing this conflict to an end to an immediate stop? do you think that we might see some, some genuine progress in south africa? thank you for the, for having me on. i'm afraid i don't sharing and i'm dollars optimism. and the reason for my pessimism is the behavior of the depend government. let me start by reminding you a statement that the issued one day before the talk to begun. they depend government said that the talks with an opportunity to consolidate and what to consolidate. military suppose military game that they had made over the previous couple of days in the joint operation that we've had, which pushes what every time commanders basically commanding the teeth and poses.
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they have made something caution. partly because the trigger porters had retreated from the boy to avoid evan warfare. data and government seems to believe that the final solution is going to come when they control the capital city up to great. and indeed that would this sumption actually when they set up the talk, the assumption would that by the time to talks would begin, they would have control and that, that they would have that would have put them in a position to demand that it's a grand total surrender, and when that became, when it became clear that that wasn't possible, then they found themselves in a very, very awkward situation now. and actually not into negotiations. and it's how it's african. there had been rumors that the people representing the government couldn't actually commit to anything because they didn't think that they would find
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themselves in the situation. so i don't expect anything causative is going to come by it. and government has always been clear that the thing about it wants to get from the negotiation is to less than the pressure from the international committee . the enormous pressure and put them to release funds have been withholding because they have been demanding dive if and the one bank the bank government should stop war before it could claim benefits. so i'm very, very pessimistic about any outcome from the trumps william davidson. and i will be your father, is there today enough trust between the 2 parties that could lead to progress on the substances issues? think pat, what we are looking for realistically, from these talks is a sensation. a possibility is agreement that would be renewing the agreement that was in place this year between and the federal and take right government. and i
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think what we should recognize is that these are important negotiations because they represent the beginning of a formal african union, internationally supported process. and therefore they probably in the long run will be the way that these complex, this was old. and definitely the way that it should be resolved, but i do think we have a rather long way to go. as you are the get has made clear. i think the issue is under what terms could we have a sensational hostility? currently we have active military compensation inside take right, with the federal army supported by the error train army attempting to establish control over all federal facilities. as stated by, i just now wants to take great delegation. they said that they do want to space. unfortunately, they have also said that they want retrans ministry to withdraw. busy from think right, and it is not clear that the 2 great governments and forces would agree to association
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of hostilities if the federal army keeps pushing forward with its era, try and write and try to take complete when it who would you say is in the stronger position right now, the strongest division, militarily, both militarily and the negotiations in south africa. what we know about the military situation is that the fighting has been going on since the 24th of august . and over the last and 2 weeks as to why was describing the 2 great forces have retreated from some urban areas, they are trying to get the miniatures have pushed further into take, right. we've also heard in the last few days about considerable continued resistance from the pick right forces to take to be around at the crossroads town as well. and so it seems to be around a mic situation low undoubtably, the, what's on the mention on the therapy and era trend side over the last couple of weeks, right. let me come back to you. and while i'm in artis, what do we know is happening right now in a round degree?
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what's the extent of what we know? because of course it's been very difficult to get information from the region. the federal government prior to the talks, had said that it would restore 2 communication services across to grade. did, did they take that action? did they restore services more aid going into the region to alleviate that the humanitarian situation that ah, yes. are we also follow those 3 posters from the government? say it in there. ah, we, i've seen some pictures. busy or restoring electricity in delivering foot done or video or social media us on there as we are now, day in the day for the day to penn national defense force us to court on throat. so our, we have seen source deliveries are being done by the government. and now when we see on the ground, what's happening as the william said, that the war is more, i day to penn national defense, more forces,
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more advancing into the different regions of to gray. and now are we heard that it is surrounding mccully and, ah, the assumption by menu of the supporters of the to pan government is that mckinley would fall under day to penn national defense works probably before sunday, or before the conclusion of the 1st round of the talk so this is what is being observed in the, on the ground at tech lee. what, what do you think is happening on the ground? because the to grand position had been that they were not willing to sit and negotiate is negotiate with the added government unless essential services to the region where restored. has that happened as far as gina know that hasn't happened. and the reason is because starvation remains and efficient 40 c p c. i'm not ashamed to see if that on the local me that they said that should remain a policy all the way to achieve victory. integrate is by making the people stop so
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that they could submit to the federal order. so i'm going to be completely wrong when it says that services has resumed in some parts of put, the government has been doing some sort of propaganda to say that area is controlled because using the services. but simply in light. not only how service has been cut, the total prompted, right. the government has also actually banned my tenant organizations from playing too great to deliver even basic medicine, nevermind. luxury items like food, food integration. i was the luxury. so nothing has happened in the way of redemption. services, and the reason this guy government had some delicate this to, to south africa, to literally a bag international committee to patient based upon government to relent on his potent located. so the, the barriers put could start to, to trickle in. but i just want to emphasize that i'm not completely wrong when i
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allow them to on and while, and your your answer to that. i think my friend is very much father for on it. and he seems to be bored. sympathized with the p l. f. and i just want to be to talk about to be as an independent and probably as i need to appeal and which can feel the suffering of pause if anyone knows, giving my or my muscle in my opinion, there is no reason. there is no reason there is no reason why the federal government will not deliver if there is available age in place. why they don't does their freed those areas and their control. so say it as ok, city because the l is controlled by a t p and if they may have challenges to deliver those aid, but now is their control ada available, why do they deliver ok? it doesn't make sense, in my opinion, allow you to try to bring back william into the conversation technique was 3 years
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last time. my mother, my mother and my taught them live in an area supposedly fried by the tip and government. and i haven't been able to speak to them for 2 years. so that just gives us what is happening integrate. so what he's saying is complete life. ok, william, i'm going to bring you back into the conversation to, to help us expand this and try to understand how you know that the warring parties in each in ethiopia, they can reach a settlement. and as the tech li alluded to, there were not just talking about the t p l f. in the philippine government, they are the actors involved in this conflict. retreat, we know has sent troops in to help fight alongside the beef open government forces . they are, of course the, the, the romo liberation forces in the or more region as well, which is also putting pressure on the ad is government. is there a settlement today, william that can satisfy all the parties involved in this conflict? whether it's the federal government that to gray government, hire
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a nationalist retrieve government. there's certainly no immediate prospects told us that someone's and indeed that you know, the problem in there and with retry is that some of these differences almost seem, are concise levels. but it is absolutely right to highlight the role of eritrea in the complex. we also have a situation where elements from har, region neighboring c great bay, forcefully seized western pig right and still control it. so that will be another very typical issues, result was take great demand ditch with her and including the return of the people . this is a very difficult situation. i think if progress is going to be made is going to be incremental not as why the mediators will be focusing on 1st getting at least the sensational estimates is between the federal and the take right government. and then moving on from that to address the issue of ameritron, right. and it's making every tray william a speaking of every tree. do you think that the president, very true as
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a software key, will accept any dia, that would see the grey and leadership remain in place? and the understanding that the, the genuine understanding of the era try and position is that they are involved in this complex sort of heavily to see the complete eradication of the t p as a political force. and so that essentially means removing the leadership and ensuring that they know can no longer a whole power intake, right and take right to no longer be a threat to retract. so really at the moment there is no sign that i ever try to leadership is interested it, right? a negotiated settlement pursuing a military solution and quickly, you know, the relationship between i be a med and i say it's awful working has been a complicated one. who's leading, who there? you think? i think that is an important question. undoubtedly they have a common common enemy and it's also at times that has been signs of strain in the
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relationship. it is assumed the present, as i, as was not happy with prime minister abby's efforts to stop the peace process and strike the spot. was also the potential for rivalry in terms of regional leadership in the years ahead. and so was they have been allied during this war. there certainly is some tension developing between as mara and, and their leaders. alright. and while, i mean, i just let me come back to you now. what do you see today as the biggest challenge to these piece songs can be made and the t p l f. leadership the brought back together in your opinion? i did it all depends on the intent of their meeting because are they forced to sit for this meeting? both sites. i mean data can government and des t p i live are there for sit by a certain party to sit for this bit. soak all are they are for sit to resolve the suffering of their people as at the major question that they should answer if they
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think that data is out of for said like if you data pan government is forced to sit for mistook while it is advancing to michaela, to capture the captain as and it may not make sense for them to uh, make a deal quickly tool for a cease fire. likewise, if the t p a live thinks that they have come to this table because they're losing our cities and towers. and then this also does not make a solution for this. but we don't get solution from this talk p stuck as end of the day. so it all depends on the intent of their, their motive. that's why they went there. is it because of the influence of us and they went, or is it because of the suffering of the people as us of major question. that plain my opinion. all right, take lay your your thoughts. what's a solution line? can abby entropy left reconcile? when there's only one thing that hasn't that has never been tried in terms of
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solution and everything has been tried and everything i stayed at. easement had been tried. threatening with sanctions without actually sanction has been tried, but there's one thing that the international community hasn't tried. i'm did that is to actually sanction it jump to impose arms embargo, anti sanction era show up as well. and to support the to greg the post cautious with wetlands and other ammunition so that they could be, they could, they could defend to cry. and indeed, ethiopia, because it now is under the throes, own, are share. so i think this any serious thing, any serious observed on of the want to have the day that it clear to support it's a grad depends poses the solution. but in terms of the top point, if you would give me one minutes, i'm down and say that the practical supporters, i'm actually every child commanders using it. and i've kind of what's happening on the idea that they are advanced to emit rec pumps,
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even from faraway places. so that's not happening. it was made that was used by the radium to government id pumps, to supported and also to make the international community believe that we need to be 3 was next door. so that there would be upper hand in the negotiations. but it's a complete mit, and it's just a lie that people like and on i'm trying to, to patch weight, allow them to respond. and also i'd like to hear your thoughts about what to take at least take a say that you know, the international community functioning, the to can government and functioning as well. what do you make of that? i think the, your guess does buys solution. you can sort of the solution by, i mean, like did you, did the u. s. to save you came from being attacked by russia by supplying we put so you are telling the same thing to happen in the integrated region. when you supply
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our list, that means you are allowing more suffering because you are you really and you are the people you are on the side of things that you are terribly gone is the purpose of those who supplies away funds, who are their own political agenda in your political interest in their agent and who are using t p f as their trojan horse. so you have an open, my friend, what are you talking? you know, sort of the people being able to train. i've been able to, i'm sorry to hear if there may be able take your train out. so it's kind of point. it's all right, go ahead. there's not a solution that you couldn't have been able to. the ukraine has been able to defend it's a positive because it has received western support. and that is exactly what's happening to grow. and actually there should be more support to, to great because the suffering integrated much, much what the suffering into your credit. and i don't understand why the international community can't think of solution is similar to the one being applied
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in ukraine. all right, let's ask william in and i will be william. what can foreign diplomats involved in these talks do? what can important element be that the international community can bring to the table right now? i think that during the right thing, finally, in terms of a more concerted, more focused, more high level, an international response is absolutely devastating war we've, we've seen possibly 10000 competence die in the fighting in the last 2 months and additions, hundreds of thousands that have been killed partly as a result of the government blockade. the federal government block pay that it's and acted on pick ride during this war. and so they focused on negotiations is correct, and they should be more forceful action taken if any of the belligerent here continue to use starvation as a weapon of war. they continue to target civilians and if they continue to prolong its complex but ultimately what is needed is but we won't be in an era,
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try an actors to understand that there is no military solution hit. we are only going to see further suffering. and then, no, no matter how difficult and how entrenched the difference is all the way out of this is to begin to try and negotiate them around vinegar shaking table rather than on the battlefield. gentlemen, thank you very much for a very lively, an interesting discussion on the island to say in at is take a good michael in sweden and william davidson in nairobi. thank you very much for being with us and thank you for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can of course, also join the conversation on twitter handle. is that a j inside story for me fully back to bowen whole team here in doha. thanks for watching bye for now. a
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