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gives a peek into the design of the new museum in the brand new city of lou sale by prick surprise, winning architect herself and to be rolled inside. each room is defined by color, sound scapes, and looks the influence of middle eastern and islamic heart. if we want to interrupt our regular programming to bring you a press conference by law enforcement in san francisco, following the brutal attack on paul pelosi, the husband of the us speaker of the house. ok. good morning. he will go ahead and get started. good morning, everybody. my name is steve bill scott with the san francisco police department at approximately 227 this morning, san francisco police officers were dispatched to the residence of speaker, nancy pelosi, regarding an a priority. well being check. when the officers arrive on scene,
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they encountered an adult nail and mr. policies, husband, paul, our officers observe miss below c on the suspect, both holding a hammer. the suspect pulled the hammer away from its velocity, and violently assaulted him with it. our officers immediately tackled the suspect, disarmed him, took him into custody, requested emergency back up, and rendered medical aid. the suspect has been identified as 42 year old david de patton. mr. pelosi and mr. de pappy were transport it to a local hospital for treatment. this is an active investigation currently being led by the san francisco police department, special investigations division. we are working closely with our partners from the f b. i us attorney's office. the u. s. capital police and our district attorney here in san francisco county. d. a brook jenkins and her team. the motive for this attack
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is still being determined. mister to pappy will be booked at the san francisco county jail on the following charges. attentive homicide assault with a deadly weapon, elder abuse, berkeley, and several, several other additional felonies. before i go any further, i like to thank the responding officers for their swift action this morning. though san francisco police officers are officer colby wellness officer, cow cagney, and sergeant edmond hawing. i'd also like to thank our emergency dispatcher, heather grimes, who standing here to my left for a really amazing job for inquiries regarding mister pelosi in his condition. we refer you to the statement issued by speaker pelosi office this morning. and with that, i'm going to turn it over to our district attorney brook jenkins for a few brief comments. and let me say in advance, this is what we know at this time,
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updates you further. okay, we just want to bring you the headline from that press conference that was being conducted by law enforcement in san francisco, which is the suspect, who attacked hold below. see, he's being charged with attempted homicide will bring you a lot more on this. as we get the information to stay with l 0 insights story up in a maritime deal between israel and lebanon is now in force in tele, we've seen by some as a defacto recognition of israel in bay. ruth, it's described as purely technical. so what are the political security and economists implications?
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this is inside sort ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm daddy, navigator, israel and lebanon have signed an agreement laying out their maritime border for the 1st time. the u. s. broker deal will enable both countries to explore for gas and oil offshore, and with elections only days away, israel's prime minister area, pete has called it a major political achievement. he says the deal amounts to be roots recognizing israel, but lebanon describes it as a technical agreement that could eventually lift the country out if it's economic crisis. zayna who has this report from southern lebanon? lines in the sea have been drawn as being described as mark agreement between
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countries, technically in a state of lebanon. and israel didn't engage directly in the process. it involved years of negotiations mediated by the united states. that's given both countries guarantees. if either challenges the agreement i historic day in the region of securing showing what's possible under these circumstances to achieve an agreement that creates hope and economic opportunity and stability for on both sides of the border. there was no formal ceremony to mark the agreement behind closed doors. the delegation signed separate documents, which were then given to the united nations. the deal is based on what is known as line 23 gaz from a prospective field called connor will go to lebanon. but since a part of it lies outside the demarcation line, israel will be given a share of any profits. while the korean gas field will remain within israel's
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waters and extraction has already started. this allows israel to increase its potential to export gas to europe, where there is a rising demand triggered by russia's invasion of ukraine. energy production in the eastern mediterranean has been growing as israel, egypt. jordan and cyprus have worked together. you look for proximity, you look for accessibility among many other things, and so far, the east med geographically positioned as it is, is proving to be that accessible quality door to europe. so they can start getting guys, getting guys out of lebanon will take time. the deal enables international companies to begin exploration, which could help lebanon with its crippling economic crisis. for 11 on this is about the economy. it insist the deal does not signify any form of normalization, nor is it a peace treaty for israel is about security guarantees. and in the words of the
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prime minister year le pete, a political achievement through which lebanon defacto recognizes israel, has a law which fall tours with israel rejected those claims. but since the start of the negotiations, the iranian backed group adopted what many calls a pragmatic approach it is, the most powerful political and military force in lebanon. and the states would need its stamp of approval, national. he has the law not to do his but considers what happened in the maritime border, demarkation agreement, a great victory for 11 on the people and the resistance. the agreement may be limited to the maritime border, but the us administration sees it differently. president joe biden says it will harness vital new energy resources for the world. said there elsa zita, now quarter. so there lebanon the. so let's not bringing our guests. joining us from beta roots as 9 solemn who's
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a professor for international affairs and diplomacy? not saddam university. and lebanon from tel aviv jonathan reinhold had of the department of political studies a bar line university. and joining us from paris, we are going to be a hoodie, a former us diplomat. thanks so much for your time with us on inside story and i've been hoody and parents over to you 1st. so the lebanese side has been clear as we've been hearing. this is not a deal that marks normalization, but rather a deal that allows both countries to move forward in terms of gas exploration. but before we get into the political implications of all of this, i'd like to get your take on the deal itself and whether you see any sticking points going forward. i think the deal itself was quite a success feather in the cap of mr. hawk seen. both sides are determined to respect and to implement their agreement. so on that level, there is a fair amount of pragmatism. and the idea that this will last regardless of
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who is elected and israel and lebanon, is because of the legal language in the agreement. that by and the governments, i think every hide involved, the 3 sides mainly expect this agreement to hold. ok, jonathan, do you foresee any challenges in implementing this agreement and sustaining it in good faith? i don't think so. i bet course the broader conflict between israel, his ball are remains but i'm, while the opposition leader benjamin netanyahu did initially asked, stated that he wouldn't see disagreement as binding given the agreements popularity in israel with the public. he's now back tracked on and it passed the cabinet will pass the class set and i don't see any problems, only is raise side. and the fact that it's underwritten by american mediation and
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promises to both sides only strengthens um. ready likelihood that it will remain intact or write a name over and by route i mean both sides portraying this is a victory. what does the lebanese sides down to gain in your opinion, from, from the perspective of lebanon, and particularly bernice government. this is a major milestone, major achievement 11. we have been prevented, literally prevent that from exploring for oil and gas since the 1960s. and now, after many years of hard work, diplomatically, this agreement came as a breakthrough. and there are some development which have help this ironic lee, the russian invasion of ukraine. and the whole congress that has sprung up
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out of this invasion in europe and the west against russia. and the cutting of oil and gas supplies from russia to europe has created a big k off energy k off in europe. so suddenly, the europe and zone i through the state so that it is in their interest to find a method for russia gas, russia, gas pro, provide in europe before it is water, which was begun on january 24 of this year. right? about 150000000000000000 cubic meters per year. and now it has gone down to less than 40 cubic 40000000 cubic meter per year. and okay, let me just jump in there for the sake of time now inside them and stick with you
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for one more question on the politics of all of this. because as we've been hearing the, the is really prime minister year. and the piece has calling the deal with tremendous achievement, and basically saying that lebanon has now defacto recognized israel. that needs, of course, deny this lebanese president, saying this does not constitute a peace agreement with israel, saying that this is purely technical. how is this going to play out in lebanon with the lebanese focusing on the technical side and economic side? while the israelis are saying this is the fact recognition? in reality, this agreement is a purely technical agreement, but never that as it has a political under strategic implication in that medium and long run. technically, this agreement does not have a political dimension. it has technical dimension aiming at clarifying a border medication line, which came to be lines are so called a line at 123,
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north of line line $23.00 has been recognized by israel as entirely for lebanon and south offline. 123, was recognized by lebanon as is, right. so this is a major, major milestone for $411.00 on that is right. it has recognized that it's right. and it's border and more importantly, the right of lebanon to explore and expect the oil and gas from is that it already or water previously that we're on with prohibition, right? put on us by israel, from, from exploding for a natural gas or oil. this has been end of now. this for us, for, for 11 on 11 is definitely this is a major victory, and it may be iris and let me jump in there and bring in a hoodie from paris. so we heard from the leader of the say it has an us who also said the lebanese government had been very careful to ensure that negotiations and
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the protocols had no hint of quotes normalization. with israel, in your opinion, do you think it was a difficult balancing act for lebanon to strike a balance while negotiating this deal? because of course, they have a decade long, a dispute with israel and they've been unable to tap into the offshore energy resources. i are only at the very difficult time, politically lebanon, all 3 presidents, which means all major factions 11 agreed that this is a good deal and did not put any spokes in the wheels of the negotiations. as they neared a critical end. ah, from a it's understandable that mr. b. will use this politic leases advantage with an election coming up. but ah, a called sober analysis,
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plus really the american point of view of mr. hocksey and never doubted from the beginning. that this is about oil and gas from the american presidents point of view. this is about economics. this is about avoiding a war in the region, which would disrupt oil and gas, not only from israel, which is going to supply a fair amount of it to europe, but also potentially endangers gas and oil from egypt, from cyprus. nobody wanted to see all these rockets flying about that part of the mediterranean, but i don't think there were any illusions in washington or with mr. hocksey in that this is anything else other than gaz oil and economics. i jonathan, i'm going to bring you in in just a moment, but 1st let me just do one follow up questions with you. and abby, who are you say that for, for the u. s. president, this is about economics,
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but here's what, by then actually did say, he said that lebanon is there, and israel had not only agreed on a provisional maritime separation line, but also have established a permanent maritime boundary. what do you read into that statement and do you think that the u. s. is going to try to continue to build on this going forward again, politically for mister by then, it serves to put the best political face possible on this. but a look at mister hochstein was asked in awe, talk that he had with merican lebanese task force. ah, as the agreement concluded, now that you have done this, why don't you go back and fix the land borders between israel and lebanon? and he laughed. he chuckled, he said, thank you very much, but i do have a full time job to go back to. ah, there ah, at this point,
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the basic problems between lebanon and israel are all still there. and they are still dangerous to draw a line in water is not the same as drawing a lion on land in, in water, most folders, maritime borders are negotiated. there is no fast rule about them. and so the fact that the 2 sides were pragmatic enough to negotiate and conclude an agreement permanent or not. it does not change anything on the ground, right? the relationship between his rayleigh is below syria, mainly the relationship between israel and the palestinians. it's in an uproar in jerusalem on the west bank. all that is dangerous stuff and lebanon is very much in the thick of it. ok at jonathan and tel aviv. so as we've been saying, israel, of course is holding upcoming elections on and november 1st. and the prime minister
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has a made comment saying that it's not every day an enemy country recognizes the state of israel in a written agreement. is this really how it is really officials are seeing this jonathan? or are they just making these comments ahead of the upcoming elections and this has been turned into a political issue and television? i think 1st of all, we have to recognize that this is a little bit more than a technical agreement without b r de facto recognition of the state of israel, or a stat towards peace. and the reason we can say more than a technical agreement is because lebanon asked for the line, the borderline maritime borders. to be reflecting the status quo i. e, it's a purely technical, temporary issue. in fact, what they in the end degree tooth was to recognize it as the international maritime . ready order not only that but was
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a letter the most. ready important point is that where the gas is right, which is further at to see lebanon achieved most of its aims. israel's aims were on that part of the maritime bulletin that is with a 5 kilometers all the coast line. and that line runs according to line one, which was israel's line. and so for israel's point to view the agreement has very great security advantages because it's now tied israel lebanon, with the backing of the united states to an internationally recognized maritime board. and that will, of course, have implications in terms of going forward and in terms of any conflict and who's to blame and who crosses. well, do want to ask you about how that, how you think this actually makes israel more secure because those are also the comments that we're hearing out of television. but just back to my question on the
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politics behind this in israel, how much of this is a political issue ahead of these elections coming up? so i think in a secondary sense, it's a political issue in that i missed and that's on yahoo! there had to be opposition. one of his grades are benefits, advantages and elections is that he seen is very successful in managing israel's foreign affairs with washington, with the abraham accords with the united arab emirates and bahrain america. and here we see that prime minister law pit has achieved an agreement which hasn't been achieved by mister nuts and yahoo for the last 10 years. and he's achieved it on terms that the defense establishment in israel considered to be very good out. so that's for his benefit laterally. however, i doubt it will make much difference because there is ray he's going into the election. this gas deal is relatively martin. had mister netanyahu opposed this
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deal, it might have helped mister law paid. but since he has backed away from that opposition, since he is an avid reader of israeli poles, i think it is a marginal issue. it might help a very little bit, but the real key to his radio election results lie completely in all the space, not, not the lebanon gas. now, inside them, we were talking about security just a moment ago. what are the security implications for this? and with lebanon? have gotten security guarantees as a result of this deal, and if so, by whom that he hello is. this agreement came about primarily because of the pressures of the united states on israel and on lebanon. as i mentioned earlier, due to the development in europe and russia, ukraine,
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etc. all of one of these development have affected mediterranean oil and gas fields and discoveries and exploration in accelerated way. and that is now western american policy to fasten the extra ration for gas in a military. and this has come to work in our interest. and we have benefited from that. and in fact, israel will be benefiting from from that. because if this agreement didn't come about has belie, would have continued to threaten israeli, an installation in the mediterranean. and in fact, one has bottle of 10 to 3 drawn as toward ships, which are exploding for oil in the case region is i really was terrified because this is very dangerous to any one. missiles to have said that he will ship will
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cause a big problem for israel. so there was there for a perfection of interest which brought about this agreement. i want to emphasize this agreement. it is a political in a way, but primarily as a technical agreement, it doesn't have much political implications. previously. we have negotiated through the united nation or through the u. s. for through says in 820062000 the year 2001 is red withdrawal from south 11 on. and those agreement didn't have political implication between lebanon. and this apply on this guy, oil and gas, the market. let me just go in there and bring in, because i see that you do want to comment and be from paris and also telling, tell us what you think about what president are all set of lebanon. he said that
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this outlining the boundaries would prevent war with israel. in your opinion, does this make war or less likely, possibility? well, it certainly makes war less likely over oil and gas and over any accident that could happen at sea. ah, since we brought in the elephant in the wrong hesper law, and everybody knew that they were a silent participant in these negotiations, silent at the table of course, but indirectly, they were not so silent. there was a pragmatism on his balance board, which was recognized by everybody was saying, look, if the lebanese government in it see presidents are satisfied with the agreement, we are fine with it. we're not going to oppose. they did have one condition which wasn't well public publicized there is a certain line that they draw which is sort of
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a perpendicular line going from not laura out at sea. they do not want to see any israeli warships heading north of that line. and this and that for them is a security question. as long as israel doesn't own any waters above that line and sent ships, then they are fine, but also from a security point of view. so okay, we're not going to have war at sea, but who's going to start the israeli airplanes from flying over lebanon? who's going to stop any skirmishes that happen on land? so the prospect of war in general is still there, right. ok, he took one element of lettering and jonathan to comment on that, i think i had from television i think, i think is a slightly disingenuous in the sense that any time lebanon would have wanted a deal. they could have had one over the last 10 years. it was chris ball out to
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the wall because they didn't want to answer the kind of agreement that they have now. and, and the reason the that being pragmatic is that standing in lebanon is bad. their position in syria is bad. the position of the iranian regime at home is bad. i wonder what you're based on this information on though jonathan. i mean, i think it's still very difficult to look at is demonstrations going on in to her on the left of the economy and government is in a worse situation. at any time, any one can remember are, those are big issues. so, you know, those are better says that the lebanese government is having to deal with as a government let's, let's not talk about internal domestic. i believe, because we're a day coming up city and we're just coming up to the end of the. so i just like your final thoughts on whether you think that from, from the is really perspective. uh, this makes israel more secure. we have about
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a minute or, you know, left on the property. and i think it's telling the all 3 of us agree that it takes away one potential cause. ready oh, a conflict that is not in anybody's interest. ok, and find out where to find. now i am and be roots because this is important. and i did want to raise this with you. we have 30 seconds left. now i'm, is it clear how lebanon will actually manage the potential profits from these discovery? seeing, as there is a severe financial crisis in the country, the managing the potential revenues under profit. this is a very complicated issue on, but we hope that they will be manage it in a proper way. but this agreement, anybody has achieved major outcome, which is giving the right to live on to begin in earnest to explore for the oil and gas and to begin producing oil and gas, which is by itself
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a very good at shipment. and it will come to be to materialize. the next 2 to 3 year energies will be sending, if it's shipped to the lab and on that report. but then it gets read in a matter of 2 to 3 months maximum. okay, that's boat as well for, for us to live there or in our that are on that. no, thank you so much gentlemen. for joining us 9, sign them, jonathan reinhold and bill, who do we really appreciate your time? thank you for watching. you can see the program again, any time you can visit our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. you can go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. so the conversation on twitter or handle is a inside story from myself and the whole team here in delphi. thanks for watching. bye bye. for now, the
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