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hello. it's great to have you with us today. i'm 0 venue. this is the news. our live from doha. coming up in the next 60 minutes, challenger lula to silver has one brazil's presidential election, narrowly beating incumbent j. your ball scenario. after a tightly 4th and bitter campaign will be live across brazil. at least 81 people have been killed in india after footbridge collapses, days after it reopened. following refurbishments. as south korea seeks answers as to what caused a crushed during halloween festivities in which at least a $153.00 people died. and how argentine is soccer fans, hope that the legacy of the late great diego merit donna will inspire them in the world cup in you know, so we begin in brazil where former presidents and left is leila leader alluded to. silver has now been declared the winner of

a knife edge presidential rental boat with over 98 percent of voting machines counted, the silver has taken 50.8 percent of the both incumbent j or both scenario has been edge down at 49 point one percent alright, let's bring in nelson franco shelby and he's a professor at helio alonzo university, specializing and international politics. he joins us from rio de janeiro. thank you so much for being with us. you're going to be spending some time with us this evening. so let me welcome you to the show. look, we just got this information confirmed in the last 23 minutes. so let's start with your reaction. lou silva reelected, i say, reelected because he's already serve 2 terms as president of course, reelected president of brazil. well, it was a very tight electron, a very aggressive campaign. so the country's deeply divided the la wall. so we are still waiting to see the president both. so now we'll consider the

defeats because he made many complaints during the campaign against the electronic system of mo, to then even the distribution of ad to local radio stations. so who are waiting to see but people, lula supporters are celebrates, including near my my home hearing real, the real part of the st. nearby. so brazil was a very important moment. probably the most important elections since democrats is ation 1985 different people. different visions of the country and will be unduly one. what a remarkable trajectory, what a remarkable career for lula. he was. the 1st left his president in brazil, the 1st working class president, he was jail spent a year and

a half in jail. he appeared to acknowledge only a few years ago that his political career was over. and now here we are. he's elected president again. what a remarkable trajectory. well rule is a poor boy from the north used the poorest region in the country. he had the very of a difficult, the childhood and then the family, the family, his binder moved from phone. and i think he, he learns to read, then write that, can your souls, he became a leader of the union either of the met the workers of the does the one very important to do? she'll sit in the state of some paul, which is the powerhouse of the country. then he created the he, he organized the 1st strike at the end of the military dictatorship in the 9th and 17th and not the dictatorship. he became a, recreate that the, the worst part was, you know,

he lost 3 elections in 2002. he was elected for the 1st time, then 2006. and then his successful present duma was staff was also from the worker spots. but the american nomic problems in jill must start ministration. and she was in p. m and lula went to jail because of the corruption scandal in pittsville. but the state. busy company but a couple of years ago the supreme court decided that the judge in the trial was partial. the judge now is the senate door and then he's alive, president, also not the judge's saturday morning. all right, another controversial figuring brazilian history. and now let's back it now. now he's back nelson. look, i'm going to come back to you. please stand by. we're going to spend some time together this evening. i do want to go to lucy newman. no. because she is live

currently at lula headquarters in cell policy. i'm guessing there's a ton of noise around you. just tell us what happening and how people are reacting . ah, well right now there are dozens of non hundreds, i should say, of supporters of all the data gathered out here that we're waiting for to load that scene by either to arrive. or maybe he's here already. it hasn't been confirmed, but he will be speaking from here. presumably after president enjoyed both fernando concede defeat, that's usually the traditional way we'll have to see if and when that happens, however, that people are bad at here. they've been using choir. we're a pain and bubbly people crying, a lot of people crying, especially women, saying that for them the nightmare is over. you may recall that president and guide books are not or has a way i'm founding. the incredible name is sergeant,

although he denies it, but he has got his policies. i've been considered very unfriendly, particularly to the l g b t. community to gays, to anything that has to do with what he called a site fix, ideology or gender ideology. also, the amazon people i spoke to here said that last, that will end. now that new law is back, but it will be as you've been hearing a very, very difficult presidency for lula. darcy, about joining me to talk more about that is guillermo, pass. i, he is a political scientist from the foundation to tell you about guys. he had me thank you for joining us again. tell me, i do think, let the sealant who supported should be disappointed by this extremely tight result . not really. this is a massive wind for lola. many people expected that he would move the elections after bush auto has attempted so many different strategies to try to reduce border

turnout, for example. and apparently that didn't work lula has won by a very thin margin, but yet on the federal level, i think it's a relief to many brazilians were really expecting policies to change in minorities, right? minorities rights, not to be obstructed as they have been under present bullshit. yes, but almost 50 percent of brazilians did vote from president fernando and whatever it is that you and i represent dfcs represent the opposite of what they want for this country. so how do you bring those? how do you turn this back into one country that has the same this to where it should go? it's certainly going to be very challenging. i'd say it's enough an uphill battle for lula, but he has been able to put together so many politicians from so many different background center, right, and left into one administration. so now the questions will be, what will his transition look like? what will his cabinet look like? but i really, i really think that lula as a very season politician will be able to,

at least from a political perspective, try to start to heal the wounds of the country. as of now, what do you think will be the message from president impulse or not? i think that the message is still is a country of tolerance. brazil as a country of cooperation and books were not yet president wilson. how do we don't know exactly what he's going to say? it's still very unpredictable. i think that he's got more than 50000000 volts, so it will be for him for him to preserve his reputation right now. if he doesn't accept the results of the election, that's going to be terrible for rehab for him in the long run. also, not is still a very important candidate for the 2026 elections. so i think he's going to accept the results. what these, that's what we hope. one last thing, what, what can the president of elect, as he will be probably announced very shortly, he will be named as president elect. what can a promise? what can he say to brazilians, to try to bring them closer together?

well, after this extremely, extremely bitter campaign, i think that he will of course, promise different policies from what both sonata has done the last 4 years. because the most important political message is brazil is one country, ruled by one government. and the government should be to everyone. yeah. me. thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. well, there you have it. certainly, here people are overjoyed, they're very happy. many will be gathering. we imagine tens of thousands in albany bow least. i with no legacy advise. also expected to address the nation back to you. all right, let's see it. thank you very much. we can hear the fireworks behind you. i want to go to monica again, give she's live in rio de janeiro. what's the reaction around you? very different, very different scene of behind you was to reaction where you are. well, here we're in, caught back up on i and are we there were groups of followers of lula in another

part of the city, some followers of president variable. so nato in front of his house, which is in bad that you should. but of course, since both sonata was not here, he is in brazil. yeah. and the, the people from the workers party, they're mostly in. so follow rio de janeiro as estate had, is voted for both, so not or in the 1st round and now, but it's like my colleague said, this is a very divided society. what lula showed is that he represents the coalition of 10 parties. it's not just him and the workers party because the workers party was at the center of the corruption scandal. and lulu tried to like, separate himself from this idea. it's he, there was a lot of we say here in brazil, lou leah's more people following new law. all. so he had

a coalition with he showed unity because his vice president was a, his former or opponent and other presidential elections. ah, he has also the 3rd most voted candidate in the 1st round c minute debit. who's from the center right? ah, she suggested he wear white instead of red, which are the workers party, which is the color of the workers party. so he's trying to show a united brazil now it will be a very different brazil from when he was president before it's facing enormous economic challenges. all. so at the very last minute our president able so about a started distributing handouts and he made the inflation go down. this is just temporarily, it goes until the end of december, when his government ends. so we don't lula doesn't know what kind of a financial and economic situation the country is really in, and that will be a challenge,

monica yankee of in rio de janeiro. thank you very much. we'll be speaking to you again shortly. but i do want to go to teresa bow. she is at the electoral tribunal in brazil you. why don't you tell us what's happening where you are, you are with the both scenarios, supporters. oh good. ringback well, that's correct where i am right now, is that right in front of results? congress when both auto supporters gathered early today from wait for the results in the mood here has been changing steadily for the past hours. initially, people were hoping that most or not it was going to be able to turn around the 1st round of the selections where you live, a feedback on the largest amount of votes. but you know what they're realizing now is that that did not happen. we've been seeing lots of people crying here, disappoint him. anger also, among many other people, we have spoken to most of them say that the other thing that should not be brazil's pref and mostly because he should be imprisoned. they do not believe that the

supreme court should have allowed him to run in this election and that's why there's lots of anger. there's lots of sadness. what happening right here? you see people like lifting cell phones up in the air is an evy jelly cold trail. there's a survey on voice hear within hearing them saying that that brazil's flag should never be read, that the field should be in prison. so lots and lots of different chance. what we're waiting, however, is to see what brazil's profit entitled. so nato has to say, he's a man who has been questioning this country's electronic voting system. he has been attacking the supreme court attacking the last 2, attributing even we are considering that the armed forces to be in charge of counting this process. we know what so not always here. he wasn't the presidential record in some while ago. we don't know that he's moved, but if he's gonna make a statement, he's going to go back to that reference. i'm waiting to hear what he has to say. he

has not yet acknowledged this results. and people here are waiting for the president to speak and to follow. you guys don't think that's important to them. they're saying that they have to wait for the president to speak. and when they will decide whether they want to hold go home, basically, whether they well protest, which is some of the people we have full control, have been suggesting there's lots of different boys here that you know. and also what's happening here shows how divided with the country that, you know, we'll have to leave the country that these enough that believe that he legalized abortion, for example, which is what come on the people you are telling me that will legalize drugs if it's something that generates lots of b, r along conservative sectors in brazil, and that's why they're just extremely, they're afraid about what happened in brazil with a precedent likely with an office. it's teresa to be clear at present and i understand that the incumbent that mr. bolster nora has not spoken yet at present to the people where you are, do they accept the results of the election,

or is there a question mark on that? a what they're telling us is that for now they're waiting for the president to speak and that they respect democracy. but if he says that this election was fair, that the pro says what's fair and, and then go with that. but they're waiting for the president is becoming extremely morning on the whole. come home have been marred with lots of tension with melinda gl by them again. not yesterday. i'm also not. oh, i like congresswoman one of the gun with a gun like 9 on the street. that was all so i was under house arrest attack that what he's with machine guns and renee a come paid that been very, very hungry. that is the be all right, so right now we will are waiting for the record on the waiting mother rested and

reassured that bit was a fair process and then they'll decide whether they like this with laura theresa bo in brazil. ya were of course, waiting for your bull scenario. thank you very much. i want to turn to our guest next. and let's bring back in nelson franco's job him. he's a professor at heal yolanda university, specializing in its national politics. all right, we're back. we're back with you. we've just been to all our correspondence. unsurprisingly, the lula supporters, ecstatic. the ball. so narrow supporters. interestingly, there's still a bit of a question mark on whether they're actually going to accept the results of this election. they are waiting for mr. ball scenario. to speak oh yes i, i think i said that before that so now we are waiting to see for the ball. so now you accept the results. because he made many, many claims and allegations during the campaign against the electronic system of voting against the supreme court just just as against the height electoral court.

just this is after the last debate on friday, he said that he would accept that results. but after the 1st round, he said that if the electrons are free and fair, so we're expecting to see pre considered that the electron while he considers the electron was really free and fair. do you expect to hear from the military in any way, shape, or form this evening, or in the coming days? well balsam man to ask the man actually the high electoral what invited the military to to check their electronic voting up system in order to calm down the situation. then they produced the reports. they presented it to prison ball sonata after the 1st round, and present more so now to decide that not to publish before the 2nd round. so

it may make some claims based on this reports. but we expect that the military act of the minister of defense or is the general the has been speaking and, and, and, and he present this report to the president. ah, we don't expect would suspect that this builds with what will be published. and we don't know what they are going to say, but as far, which we know, they didn't find any, any problem in the 1st rounds or the military out we, we strongly believed that the military will, will not interfere with amazon. and we will accept the results, but we are waiting for those report on the, on the system of voting there the, the political swing in brazil swings, plural, since the beginning of the century really have been so big from the 1st working

class president with lula coming president in the early 2, thousands and then the swing over to of, of course there was still a roof after him, but then after that, the swing over a 2 year year bo scenario, what does this moment mean for the country now? we have swung back to lula. well, what happened was that the 1st, the d had the, the last 50 government had many problems and if the, the economy will have the recession with the g, d. p fell 7 percent in 2 years. so defend their minus the popular support for the p g. now, so we had this corruption candles ban both. so now we have the profit from the situation from this political canvas tried to present himself as a non us man. the man of $25.00 principles and the conservative values that would

change those and then be corruption, the brazilian political system. we don't believe that the has change in the one bits, but many people believe bits that the bt the problem was a bit to get to some elected bowl. so not that now many people voted for ruling to get to be the most or not so many people are voting against not in favor. eula tried to work to the organize upfront the political one from the rights to the to the left. and he succeeded, but the result was so tight that the country is deeply divided to be a very difficult to got the both. so now to can did they did well in the long run the going the election for congress. so lower have. busy many style

beverages and senators to deal with the various you also want addition, so he may be able of course, the refer ups and then of course some, some it's possible to buy support in congress to be on parallels are often drawn between a bowl scenario and the former us president donald trump, now of course, when donald trump lost the election, we all know what happened me. infamous january 6, capital riots and analysts. observers of brazil's political life have express concerns that scenario allied january 6, brazil style could be possible. is that something that concerns you well, present both so now to said the us elections that if we in brazil did not change the electronic system of voting, we could be, we could have something much more. brazil been happening tonight. the states,

of course, united states is the oldest democracy in the world, so as very strongest to shows. brazil has been a democracy in 1985 the and there are lots of people, so armed with guns both so not only been our lives the, the regime and then the risk read the limitations to buy weapons that we could go one form or member of parliament about exactly so both so now why like ally was about to be a rest of them to who 550 shots against the federal police, an anthro trick grenades. and yesterday and so power was a member of parliament allied to both. so now to the pursue a black man supposed to be from the left do from the what the spot in the streets of some powder and a very well can i say in, in, in

a very important part of the city then. so people are afraid that if both sort out of decides not accept the results, there may be some kind some act of acts of violence, especially because there are too many guns and 1000000 more guns. the country seems to be. he took office. i think the results of the elections tell us the bose and both so no re snow is still alive regardless of what mr. boston are says when he does give his speech that fair. yes, he says it's a far right movement that took over all of the right to brazil for most of the rights of brazil, because some, some, some people are supporting eula because they believe that new lays that most democratic candidates does election. but yes, there is the very of the real script and well, who we are,

we are waiting to see what present both. so now has to say it's, it's a, it's a, it's a difficult situation for the country of the whole. because the people who rule had the great victory, the 1st route, both scenarios would be down. but since he got nearly half percent of the vote both scenarios, he's a force who come who kaden's to comes to stay in brazil in politics. then this is trim, right? doing politics base done that he has strong support, been yvonne, jericho church and the, the farmers that we called the bible, the bullet and the beef boast. you've been great farmers the right thing, give angelica christians and the the guys went to do the right to have

to bear arms. all right, nelson franco's job in thank you very much for your insights. we'll come back to you before long, but i want to go back to teresa bo, she's in brazil. ya. she is at a also now a rally. teresa, can you hear me? yeah. you can hear me. we've got you. great. what's going on, where you are, what, how has the mood shifted? if at all, in the last few minutes? well we're here right in front of the west where people have got to wait for the results and, and now where they were initially hoping to celebrate, they were singing and dancing. and then the mood started to change and we started seeing crying but also praying. there was an evan jellico service going on with people on their knees, lifting their hands, saying, and pray that, you know, a lot of feedback cannot become this country's next president both lots and lots of resistance to the possibility. well, for the fact right now that you will become this country's next president,

there's lots of fear of what will happen if he becomes a forget of what is going on during the campaign. what does people have been listening to among that is that, like, could legalized abortion could legalize drugs that communism will be installed in brazil. that's what president jade was when i do. i've been telling this people. and that's what many of those people believe. both fernando continues to have the support of the of angelica fact or something that's very, very evident right here from the agri business, for example, from many members of the military. and there's lots of tension right now about what will he say? let's not forget that voltage has questioned this home pros, i think, is installed the possibility of fraud being committed in this country. he has questioned the electronic voting system question the electron previous question. the supreme court even requested a

run back i, i believe i should not be allowed to be cut, or now i might not be bored with net. now, when people buying a gun and you know, we're talking about what happened after the election. i have a, a vanity with

this one that didn't follow my work. there's a lot, i'm on the one relation that has a so we're gonna have to wait for the week. i mean, that's what this people are waiting for. that waiting a or not 3. so if you can still hear me any, we still have that connection. yeah. if you can still hear me. ok. do you get a sense of what they're hoping to hear from mr. boston or do they, would they be okay with him accepting the results of the election or are they hoping he will fight that a lot, but they also have lots of why it's about, you know, with being telling them a lot

. i a teresa bo, in brazilian, thank you very much. your let us know. as soon as you know, when your boss in our.