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ah, ah, the head of there are welcome to the program. i'm the clock. earlier this year, pakistan's been prime minister him run con, last a crucial no confidence vote in parliament and lead to his resignation. but since then, he's been holding regular rallies as he wraps up pressure on the government to call an election. bucket stones economy has been in crisis and people are struggling with high food and petrol prices. khan and his supporters and now marching on the capital is lemme, they began that 380 kilometer walk from the eastern city of the whole on friday. the government officials say they won't be allowed to enter the capital. con is facing allegations of corruption, which he denies. and he was recently borrowed from holding office for 5 years. and hider has more now from his dilemma. but m. ron cons freedom. march,

heading toward the lama bod expect arrive in islam abad. on the 4th of november. and of course the government adults are not digging any. john says they said it are credible to get it to its lama bod, under the protesters. and those are good separating and a long march will not be allowed inside it's lama bod, particularly zone m. ron con, shore, the government and the country epic. god. that the freedom to protest a constitutional he of gods will be seeking intervention of the bargain on the court in order for them to allow the march to come to some of the minister on the requisition, the services of the to go to do for did. but that include the police and better military force in the government may also on the military to come in aid of the

really an administration that ignored unusual even by the governments have called the military guard sensitive installation and islam abad. red zone. and did a lawyer in order situation that situation across the country extend iran con, enjoy a tremendous board and all the provinces, except for the province of then, and also by lucas on. and therefore the lama bodied under siege. because the minute you get out of it, lama bought enron, con bar de rolling endorse particular province, said, sure. it will be a big challenge for the government to contend long march. despite the fact that enron khan had said to alger data, there, they will do nothing, unconstitutionally dad, always followed the law. and this is going to be a peaceful protest. it's my funded mental right to do a protest against these criminals who are getting rid of all the cases. it's

unprecedented that you come into the bottom and you puzzle legislation and then benefit from the, from the legislation. but every connection gets look billions removed. so therefore, this move to the larger movement for right. we do want to bargain on foreign policy to be dictated from outside. we want people to dig the decisions to be taken while their benefits are. let's have a quick look at the marine cons career. he was a popular cricketer from anthropic and one that will the world cup against india in 19022 years later, con, set up the 1st council hospital in pakistan. in 1096, he established the pakistan to the political party, also known as the p t. i. 6 years later he was elected parliament and in 2018, his p t i party emerged as the largest block and the national assembly. and con, became prime minister the

alright, let's get into it. we can bring in, i guess the in islamic bad side as still because he's a full minister from rank cons pci party jody is on zoom. sheila's broucher tax on political offense commentator. and also it is, i'm about, we have a job aid room and a journalist, and parliamentary correspondent for the nation newspaper. welcome to you all job aid. i'd like to start with you. first of all, just to clarify how popular is in renton and pakistan right now. i mean, if, if there was a votes now and let sure right now, would he win the mandate of the people? thank you very much. con is, no doubt is a popular leader. and his popularity is you can say that described to the little landscape is top seater before last fund year. you can say off he was 40 doubt, i don't a 5 and a half months before, but his popularity good off. if you can see he's getting bored,

more popularity with each putting day. now he has built a narrative. after voting out, it was you can see that it was foster in the history of the parliament. he was 40 doubt is the 1st prime minister in this country. his popularity get off about his book, whatever to get off. he has started publicly meetings in different cities valve right now. the country is in a great wood unit, 3 princes. but given the circumstances, he, his bill to his narrative that he was voted out with a conspiracy. now he has started a long march. i will see it's a distant dream. no doubt he had, he has, he had public sport b does and did is no rented, could outfit him. we have seen many rented crowd on marches,

but people are very much with him. now we will see the hall. he will, is this up on the demonstration of he can what it in us in a city, if, if, if it thinks if, if he, if he thinks that he will convert is a demonstration into sit in ruling can leak, have decided to impose article to 44 to 45 and gold army and to tackle district and things could live in at that point. so i'm just going to move on to now we can, we can get into all of this as over the next 20 minutes or so. if i could come to say something because he what's your center, your administer in runtime? spotty. i'm guessing from your point of view, you're pretty convinced that he would easily win an election. should it take place now? and what do you think is going to happen as a result of this much?

well, i don't think it's a debate. i think my colleague forgot to mention that we've just had to buy elections and german elections and been job. and in fact, all over the country, we one widow with overwhelming majority, both times the latest one i think was a sony a couple of weeks ago. and with there was about $68.00 bi election out of which we ended up winning a seat. and many other terming it as a referendum. so i think there's absolutely no debate about who went the next election based on even the 2 bi election that i've just passed. it's just a question of how big is the majority going to be? hence the government at the moment doesn't one snap elections that doesn't want to call for early elections at all because looking at the results and they're trying to challenge in twice. and these pulls that up just happened the past couple of months and seen the results. so clearly they're doing everything they can from

disqualification to life, threat to corruption charges you name it. there's nothing really left that they can tackle them on, hence the movement to the streets with the people's mandate. and if at the end of the day, that's all that matters is what the people of fox on one, not what any. do you know what any other circle country or policy want? it's what the people or fox on want to need. all right, well elections, not, of course, june until august of next year, august 2023. you say that the government does not want snap collections. she does put out. she said, you think in run kong with this march could change out. he could force these elections to be brought forward. is that conceivable? thank you very much for having me on your show. i do not know to be honest because in decisions are not meet pre actually decisions are made behind the clothes don't. part of military is the biggest

political player been gone for the last year and in round came into politics. and then he, his image was managed by the military again, the machine he came to power with the help of the military. he was the guy in brown and the military somehow had c thinking and same util ideological directions. they weren't pockets on the military want it centralized buckets bug with a strong into strong army and religion as a binding post. and it wrong can also believe in the same principles. that's why iraq and one of those for a long time. but they broke up their relationship was because in rome han

wanted to fight, you ought to be cheap. who is to keep a part of next month on the 29th of november. and he wanted alon, he thought he would go on, but a week. and that brought it division between hon and the military. and now iran is challenging. the ministry top ross who are in control. ok, so let me just like it's been back to the question that i do think that by conducting it by organizing this mass march, that he can create a situation whereby the elections are brought for that. there will be not elections . do you think the government could be forced into that position? i don't think so. if your mom doesn't get it backing from i'm see, you know, false is that from that? i mean, what is the military intelligence is used to states such

a much is, but this time i don't think so. and iran clay that it is mean central team is that he wants the independence and freedom from london and washington. it's an irony that iran was private, is for office cabinet, was including our friend, the bahati, were british nationals and well somewhere american nationals. and one of them is national chief national security adviser was working by the american military establishment. so today, the friend a friend of both johnson, i don't know from pakistan, is that he want independence from london and watch it because you need to come in there. i think for the call. i don't know the gentleman, but where he is. i think it's quite hilarious. it was a long rant, which really didn't ran, didn't really come up to any of the answers that you're probably looking for the at the end of the day. like i said, it doesn't really matter what anyone really says. it's what the masses of bucks on

want, if i'm on han, was removed from premier ship and box on due to no fault confidence, which we as a party believed, wasn't. it was inspired by an international conspiracy, and there was a lot of horse trading that took place. the people took on the streets the same very night numbers that have never been seen before. unprecedented numbers. this was something that a party can organize. it wasn't something that i could have done or one could have done. it was as organic and the people took to the streets. last 6 and a half months. you're seeing the biggest amount of numbers come out on the road, anti government, and even to an extent, upset with the army, saying that why haven't they intervene when they can see such injustice being done? especially when we go on about the site up on the united states, which we thought was it was completely inappropriate and it was threat issue to our sitting investor better. but it's interesting and it's already about to do. sure.

as is point, it's interesting that we've given the power of the army and the i spy agency to take on the army. i in my car has been very critical of the army to take on the army in the way that he has publicly criticize him. it's bold strategy, isn't it? what do you see? it's not the army that he is criticizing the uk in its entirety. my friend that gave me his best to bits into it. the only thing that he really was correct about it all was that he is that decisions and boxed on for far too long have been made behind closed doors by 4 or 5 people that are making decisions for 220000000 population. they're not by the mandate of the people. now we don't mind if the current government, whichever government comes into power for that matter, as long as that people have fox on her. so if there's no problem with any of the political parties, this is the political, let's leave the army aside for one second and say politically, if you're so confident, so strong, and you believe that you've done

a good job and people want. there's no way you wouldn't want to the gentleman government because right now you don't have it. this political instability, economies crashing. you can get a good economy with political instability. there's a prime minister who's only the prime minister around a 40 to 50 mile radius. ok, rest of it for me, you know, is all wrong. i want to bring in the job direct moment and again, journalist for the nation newspaper said him or cons criticisms of the army. and the, i say agency did force him to come out and defend themselves. we had despite chief coming out. and the fact that he did it quite unusual for him to do that shows and nervous about the situation. doesn't it? well, as do i think one has opened different for france and there is a contradiction in his narrative. but right now today he is contesting by

election and 45 from them. and at the same time he is heading long, much toward islam. but for, for snap balls, is it, it isn't it contradiction. my colleague, my friend as a feeble, cloudy village onset about this. and the other thing is that if you are really interested in by election gender election, you have to you have your enjoying power in the k, b, k. and also in punjab, if you choose to and blog resignation from ideas to prevent is there will be a situation that government has to an agenda election at on the i am, i'm confused. get it why iran card is not opting that option is if you, because you will come back you look as far as it goes for brushes,

very genuine and legitimate question that why do we can test by elections if we're not interested in government? and we don't want to be part of the national assembly by the way, the election he just mentioned. now the one that's happening in current, the latest results are that were 3 times ahead of any other party. so we won that cedar. but the point of contesting them is that if you don't, then what happens is that their majority in parliament, they will just keep going. just proving a point in ra con, made themselves and from all the seats to the point that the country is behind hon . and if you throw any election towards us, we would win it, which we have done so. so this was just another seat which has now come up and we wanted again and just showing that the country were continuously bold for him. although he said that even if he wins the election seat, he will be attending parliament and you hand in his resignation. whenever he wants,

but people are still willing to vote for him so that that means the nation is not going for the normal politics of constituency politics. that i want my m p to make me my dam on my better street roads. they're voting for iran, han for his belief and ethos as far as it goes for why do we not? why are we participating in the government in k, p or in punjab or g b for that matter and resign? it would cause general elections if we had a full belief that it would cause general elections the very next day or soon after we would have done so. but unfortunately, impacts on the dynamics are so twisted that the so much horse trading that when you, when you resign is very easy for people to linger 3rd, 2030 and peace from your side onwards. and like to have the national assembly where we have resigned form. but right now they're in an assembly. i mean, just picture this there in a national assembly at the moment. all the parties combined except for the largest

party in the entire country. just just images that the national assembly is running right now without p t i's representation at all. so the largest political party, or the only national party in the entire country, is not in the assembly yet. there is a government that's exactly our point. ok, yes you're, you're as though we are not sure if we can come to you to, to respond to that. and also do you feel that we're like to come to you? i'll come back to you in a 2nd job. but sure. i 1st respond to that, 1st of all, and then do you think we are on the brink potentially a big change here in the way pack is done is run. i find it very amusing what those people just being a bit, you know, national and living. anyone for a long time, he knows that the recent business has, you know, changed several prime ministers and they all are out of the office because of no

confidence in was not sent out of office under some immunity dictatorship out of i'm constitutionally, i'm not, he was removed from office through a new computer and the majority of working against p. so he worked with the move legally and the next election is due in august. but he's not waiting for that. he's not dissolving as my friend. it's all about these not dissolving tool promises. he has his company, he's, i agree, dissolved to provincial assembly. a gentleman. lesson will be more likely. but in hong y and lecture immediately, and he is using this to, you know, kind of state and this is not democracy. in a way that you'll use for you use bar and you say you don't regard when the find him is to he was not going to the that much. he was not picking parliament if

he was he had, you're not interested in the bottom. i got the bottom and he is someone who believes in a single person, which is almost so many dies. you present military and now he does look that he is interested in demography. he actually does not believe in fundamentally for democracy or mr. mcarthur, going to come to you, it's a response to that in just a 2nd, but at 1st missed from a job at rome and you want to become and will, will people cardi has just mentioned that to pakistan that he came south b t. i has no presentation in national assembly, but i will correct him. 31 law makers are representing are currently in national assembly and one of them is upwards should opposition leader and other public account committee chairman. well, d, r, you can see it,

they are decisions. they are not to and and other 125 law makers who have 200 as a condition, i don't to 5 or 5 months before national assembly speaker has called them so many times to come and verify it. there is a condition by they are not going to going to verify, there is a condition. so there are many if sand, but they're bad, they're didn't open. and so i've seen that to date is a pressures the deer signatures are not incorrect on different conditions. so you can see that there is no representation in national assembly. ok. so because i will come to you and also on that. but also on the point made by sure is that iran come was removed from office legitimately. he is dictating what he wants. he's not

being a democrat nova, along for that quite easily. i mean, mister jarvis points some far more. i think come relevant. look, mr. m. ron hahn is the one person that for 26 years or 24 years, has set up a democratic party and boxed on single handedly not handed down from his father or mother or anyone else. he's created it himself. i don't think there's someone more democratic in the country. he has. he has the he has elections, party elections, from within. his always stood for democracy. he's never complimented dictatorship. he stood with general, mature of one time in a referendum after that criticize it because he thought he was going to was the democracy. so it's, it's a no debate about who's actually the biggest democrat, he's stood up in parliament many times on, on all issues. and use parliament for the right reasons, as far as it goes, mr. job. it's point a look at the end of the day that people he's mentioning that

are in assembly. they did when they're election with under the amount on and under him on hands party. that's true, but like i mentioned earlier, this horse trading, the other gentleman mentioned about i think he had an issue with me being a dual national time now or not. but he had it and he mentioned england changing prime minister. so many times. if england was aware of any horse trading and money being exchanged hands for votes within the national assembly, people and parties would be struck out and not be allowed to participate in politics. her again, her can people that left us the representation that left us still sitting in parliament, all took money and they all took money and got paid and stayed in and stayed in the party. if they were so clear, why don't they resign and stand for elections independently on their own name, not on the name of them, non. hi. ok, sam, we're going to have to leave that ticket. we're going to have to leave that. thank you. will no doubt the coming days will be critical times in pakistani politics.

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