over his home secretary's handling of the migrant crisis on monday. so abraham and cold, high numbers of migraines crossing it to the u. k. in boats and invasion. she's also defended poor conditions and a large processing, facilitating amount. and my consent has been described as dangerously over crowded hope when it has selected from london. with no surprise that immigration dominates at the exchanges between the opposition labor party lead us a kiss, dhamma and the prime minister rich sumac. essentially because the labor party wants to keep pressure on the believe, get home secretary, well, a problem. and she's been criticized in the past week sending confidential emails from outside her home secretary department to buy her personal email. and the other thing that is dominating the headlines here in the case is this use of mountain airfield. it should be a processing center is built in january of this year for $1600.00 people to spend

no more than 24 hours before being moved on to more permanent accommodation. in fact, a report that emerged on monday said that there was $4000.00 people that and they were spending upwards of a month or more clearly against the all the advice of campaign groups and even perhaps against legal advice. now, the exchanges in the comments were very testy between kissed alma and she soon kissed thomas saying, for example, why doesn't you get a proper home secretary, stop governing for once and get a grip. richardson next reply to that was that he, on the home secretary were on the same page, but that policy, the labor parties, policy was a blank page. it's clear that the pressure on immigration and particularly onto the problem, is not going to go away. the, the, the opposition party is really sense that this is a pressure points that they can keep on pushing. ah, hello, what you know, just there are these headlines this hour. if the open government has agreed to pay

still with 2 grind rebels after 2 years of fighting, the cessation of hostilities was announced in pretoria where the 2 warring sides have been holding negotiation. the un secretary general antonia good terrorist has a welcome to russia's return to the ukraine. a great deal. moscow has confirmed it will guarantee the safety of shipments through the black sea. it follows a phone call between the presidents of turkey and russia. on tuesday. moscow had suspended its involvement in the deal over the weekend after its fleets in the black sea was attack. certainly new grain is what is a little in this regardless, we decided to hold top patient in these great convoys and we demanded assurances and guarantees from the ukraine inside that nothing like this had happened. again, that issue that, that you had quoted, those would not be use military because our took his partners mediate in our

defense ministry has received information from the side that ukraine has given such assurances for the sir is round now where former prime minister benjamin netanyahu appears on course to return as if later, with nearly all the ballots counted from tuesday's election, he's right when blog looks set to win a flynn majority. all right, those are the headlines i am emily, angling. the news continues here on the, on al jazeera of the inside story. ah 80 percent of people who murder journalists go unpunished. reporters like al

jazeera sharina watley are targeted simply for doing their jobs. what should be done to combat impunity and ensure journalists are safe? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program i'm fully by table. the killers of media workers are getting away with murder. that's the warning on the you ends, international data and impunity for crimes against journalists. the committee to protect journalist found nearly 80 percent of killings in the past decade have gone unpunished. 50 deaths have been recorded so far this year including that a veteran al jazeera correspondence sharina blackly, and he's really soldier shot the palestinian american in the head as she covered an

army raid in the occupied westbank. israel's military said there was a high probability, a soldier killed her, but worn to press charges. sharon family and al jazeera have filed a complaint with international criminal court. they continue to demand a thorough and independent investigation. it's important that policy makers and legislators and decision makers have the political will to implement mccann isms to implement policies that ensure that journalists are being protected. and if a crime is committed, there is accountability. there needs to be an end to this. impunity because journalists are not just numbers, there are human beings who are doing their duty while the c, p. j is 2022 global impunity index names for malia, syria, south sudan of galveston and iraq. as the most dangerous countries for journalists,

mexico is number 6 on the list. it recorded the killings of at least 13 journalists in the 1st 9 months. it's highest in a single year. myanmar made its 1st appearance on the index. the death photo journalist, i choir and reporter for you to mit dame are blamed on military atrocities. brazil ranks 9th in june, british journalist dom phillips and indigenous issues expert bruno perrera, was shot dead. one reporting on environmental matters in the amazon pakistan and india were rank 10th and 11th. just last week. pakistani investigative journalists are shot sharif, was shot dead by police in kenya. ah, hollis now bring in our guests. for today's inside story, in haifa is sol sons. i hair a human rights lawyer who has represented palestinian cases before the israeli supreme court in new york. jodi ginsberg, president of the committee to protect journalists and in oslo. i chung lying editor

of the democratic voice of burma. he was given the committee to protect journalists award for asia, a warm welcome to your thank you very much for joining us. south on in high for let me saw with you. if i can, to re nab lockley's death was the most high profile in a long list of palestinian journalists killed by the israeli military. before i ask you about her specific case, can you tell us 1st whether her killing and the international attention that is drawn has in any way changed the way palestinian journalist saw treated? oh, well uh, good evening to you and everyone. well, i see that the case of shipping a barclay uh with all the sort of course is not the only case of a journalist that have been killed and assassinated athenian journalist by the israeli army. we have been viewing a lot of these cases, unfortunately,

of a hundreds of journalists and journalists being wounded and from 2006 until 2022. the u. n. has reported a more than 22 killings of palestinian journalists by the israeli army in 2022. we have also another a journalist other than shooting a barclay. and we can also give the example of bombing a tower in garza by the israeli army in may 2021. and also just recently actually for today's international a day, a, the committee for defending a palestinian journalist had issued that only in 2022. there were 637 by the union journalist that were injured in one way or another by the israeli army in the us bank and in gaza. now,

the issue is that the case offshoot a barclay is unique. on one hand, it's unique because it was documented on the spot and we know had the old folk contrasted the armies a narrative about the location of the a king already from the 1st hour after the killing. there were witnesses from the event itself, off other edges, either a journalist that were also injured together with a barclay, indeed for the evidence. the documentations and the videos make it a unique case. look, unfortunately, the protection of philistine young journalists have not been a pro voided at all, and we see that life but a see me and civilians. there are also being, i've talked in cold blood by the israeli army, well, pounds being washed. there is no accountability, there hasn't been justice for many of these palestinian journalists who've been

killed as you saw the non non salsa in the case of sharing. i blankly her family and i'll jazeera accounting on the international criminal court to investigate sharina scaling. do you think that can guarantee accountability? well, i think and also by the way the palestinian prosecutor had submitted another communication to the i c. c on this case. but i also think that the only way in order to open a thorough independent and international investigation is indeed by opening it by the i c. c because there will be no other transparent investigation that will be opened. and of course, the fact of a, the, me or submission of the communication to the i, c. c by al jazeera on tooth number oxy list family in the political act is a political statement that basically a, we are just 0. she, in all the simians,

basically will not be silent until justice will be done and this is a huge political statement. given the fact that the insurance case, there is tremendous witnesses that have been also investigated and examined by the u and human rights office by the washington post by the h. b a and by other a by and by other institutions out there for closing. for this investigation, which when lead, if it will be opened, of course, because it's all conditioned. i'm provided the coding on on the computer and do it . and do you know, will it did decide to open such an investigation. ok, we hope that eventually we're, let me bring jody into a conversation. jody. what do you make of this palestinian strategy to use the i c . c against israel? is that an effective strategy? can? can it help protect palestinian journalists in the future?

i think bringing in international investigative bodies is really important because what we see in many of these cases and the reason we still have a high level of impunity globally, is because all too often the variable authorities, you will be responsible for the investigations are also in some way implicated in the killing itself. and so it's very difficult to assure that there's going to be independent. so having some kind of international independent investigation into these cases is really important. but even in this, in a case like this, i mean, where sharina block lee is concerned. i mean, it's treated differently because of where it happened. isn't it, jody? yes, that's true. and we are, we do not see the kinds of international pressure on crunches. israel that we might be in other areas. nevertheless, we continue to call for both an itc investigation,

but also for a us lead investigation. because of course you being was a joe citizen with a us citizen. that's one of the palestinian one. and therefore, the us has an obligation we believe, to investigate this case as well. but can the us, as israel, strong as i lie, conduct a credible, independent investigation into this case, even if sharina blocker was an american citizen. when you consider the political us, i think the us can conduct credible investigation. what we need for them to do is be willing to conduct that investigation. that's where the pressure has got be for them to, to, to carry out such an investigation. right? let's bordinez out a bit now i'm bringing i chime in our slow i. for the 1st time man, mom has appeared on the c p j's impunity. index. tell us what it's like for journalists in your country. working under military rule

today. i mean, like since after the military coup on the 1st february last year and the walk of chairman has become a very, very dangerous and risky and is in there ice. her cpg report number of journalists have been killed. and the one that you mentioned in your introduction, on the 10th of december, last year freelance photo journalist will kill improves and after he was arrested to 3 days after he was arrested. and basically what he was doing was filming on the street and basically empty street, because at the day the opposition environment called for silence tracked strike, meaning nobody go out on the street. so he went out on the street and took a picture of empty street and he was arrested and taken by the police. and 2 days later, the bullies call his families come and collect your son body to talk to him to get

the kind of things happening throughout the countries. and to day, over 60 journalists are still being detailed in prison. and the 3 of them have been sentenced to imprisonment. including to have a journalists who have been sent for from 3 years to 6 years imprisonment and worse, personal attack. hi chang. what is the worst personal attack you have faced? you're now still, but you were nan mine to pass. what was it like for you? ok, so similar if i'm in belmont today, i will stay going to prison. now there is no way for an independent journalist to be able to walk in the country and at the same time, without any kind of a danger or be imprisoned or even tortured debt. we still have people on the ground, my colleagues still inside the country, but we have to be totally an official plan to cover. and if the

middle of the day exposed to go to prison, straightaway jody in york. the struggle between governments that want to suppress criticism and the voices pushing back is not new. but the tools and tactics it seems of repression have evolved. why is it dangerous? even more dangerous today to be a journalist than in previous decade say, think is even more dangerous to be a journalist now, because we, as you say, we have so many more tools with which to suppress to bail journalists. we've seen an explosion in the use of spyware. we've seen an explosion in the use of online harassment to describe it. to mean journalists, journalists addresses being published on the internet, which then puts them in physical danger. so there's a lot of that, coupled with a great for coward c, full the profession where we've seen increasingly,

even political leaders in to pay the democracies smearing john and a john s as enemies of the people. and they can use, i'm not create an environment in which journalists are extremely vulnerable. so we're also seeing them highly vulnerable, for example, of protest or political rallies, where ordinary people feel empowered to physically intimidate and even attack gentleness south and tell us about your experience working with palestinian journalists. and what actions do you think can be taken to day to make them more safe? oh, well i think that to 1st of all, having this a day as an into international a day to acknowledge the locked off the impunity when it gets to attacking or ensuring journalist as is important and of itself and not also to

a forget that in march 2015 a, the u. n. a has also adopted a resolution and number $22.00, i have 2 to a which basically a set some criteria to the a special protection that should be provided to a journalist all over the world, especially journalists in conflict areas. and a war in the but if i come and address the situation of journalists and i've been seeing, and journalists in israel and palestine, i think that there is a systematic attempt of attacking journalists and trying to silence them, either by attacking them, injuring or even killing them or by not even letting them do their job. and in many of these cases, especially when it gets to a physical attack and assassination. there has been several, a demands to open a criminal investigation against a, the army,

a inside the israeli legal, a system. this is part of what can be done in order to get to a criminal accountability. however, even the legal system in israel doesn't really provide a lot of help because even that most of these cases are being closed. either they are, they're either they argue that there's no witnesses or that there's no liability. and even when our lawyer wants or human rights organization approaches and appeals, the israeli supreme court. also, the supreme court gives i back up to the closure of investigation by not intervening or interfering in the decision to close the investigation. so on the 3rd, i know me courses then for palestinian journalists. excuse me, are they no recourse is even if, if, as you say, even the legal system doesn't treat these cases in a fair way. what we courses and not

a for palestinian jonas. this is basically why it's important to approach the i c, c. in the, in the case of shooting abruptly. we know that the family and rightfully they refused to a demand on opening of his re investigation in the case of her killing. because the results of such an investigation were very clear and rightfully they didn't asked about and one directly to the icy c. so $11.00 we are able to show that there were any supreme court will not interfere that the army in all the cases closes the investigation and doesn't provide the impunity a for any a off the events of the killing or the injury. in these cases. it's basically an evidence to show before the i c, c that israel is not willing to do anything in order to bring the it up, it perpetrators to justice. and this is a very, a strong base as an argument when it gets to the i, c,

c. the exhausting of legal remedies in the, on the, in the local a courts in israel, which shows basically that there is lack of political will. okay. investigator to provide jody, jody is lack of political. well, the only beeson you would say for impunity. so the only reason it's one of the key reasons, a lack of resorts and capacity. so it requires trained investigators over you discovery, for example. those are some of the reasons i think increasing the author, we're saying lack of international pressure and consequences. it's incumbent upon all those countries that believe in a free press in the importer, the reader expression to speak out publicly and take action when they see when they

see other countries failing. to take responsibility for the killings of journalists and increasingly we see government failing to take that responsibility. and it's not just government in so called and democratic countries any more, as you pointed out before, it's also happening in western democracies is there is there model today, a country that could serve as a model if you will, to, to achieve justice for journals where it's proven that, you know, they, they care about journalists, drives and press freedom. is there a model today that other countries can follow? this new individual model? i would say, i think the key thing for the international community is that the country i say, who made explicit that commitment to me to freedom speak out publicly when they see press freedom being limited in other places,

but also take action when they see that team and, and that i think, can be the model to put pressure on countries where we are seeing persistent high levels of impunity. i, in oslo, the majority of media people killed over the past decade were working outside of armed conflict. so it's not just happening during war. how do we address the everyday safety challenges that journalists face, including, you know, relatively new forms of aggression, like the ones on social media as we discussed before. i think in case of the burma me, the, the biggest problem is so the police and the military are acting against a journalist. it's basically following the order by the military leadership. so they have impunity already there. and sorted journalist and there is no protection from any sites. i mean, the judges judith resistant,

is still pretty much controlled by the military and the lawyer, or even being threatened with arrest if they're trying to represent the journalists who are in prison. and i, the, the whole issue is did since, after the could known it's almost nearly 2 years over 2000 people have been kill, including the journalist and ordinary civilians. and about 1500000 people have been in prison. and the lots of villages have been been down almost $20000.00 homes have been banged out there. girls shooting rice, violation and for the tree. that's the main reason that they are targeting the journal is because they don't want to expose any of these human right violation by their soldiers by themselves. and as julian mentioned, i think the pressure from the,

the mission of community is really important. do you sense, do you feel that there's been enough pressure from the international community on, on me, on my military? not at all. i think there is only very limited sanctioning against a military routine. and, and i think i would neighboring country, especially to member of the us in country, need a lot more than what they are doing. right now. we need a lot more pressure from un security council united nation, the real concrete, tangible, international sanctioning needed. and on top of that, i'm, they are about one half 1000000 people internally displaced person. and there is a current senior crisis with the humanitarian assistance. and the military is blocking the international angels and you become a uses and that need to be taken care very actually, my cell son in high fashion,

we now block his case has international exposure. of course, in the backing of a powerful media network like al jazeera, to go to the i, c. c. but what about kills journalists with lower profiles? how do we pursue a justice for them? oh well yes, that's a huge issue because and i what makes it, as i mentioned before, what makes shootings is the case unique and strong and not just on a political liver or media level, but also on the legal level is the fact that there were evidence from the ground at the time of the killing itself, documentation witnesses and and so on. it which basic like lock in a lot of the other a cases and then a we as a human rights lawyer are finding ourselves in a difficult situation. because in many of the a cases the a,

the evidence are on the hands of the israeli army, which doesn't, especially when we're talking about bullocks as a primary evidence in these it cases which doesn't provide the evidence to the inside or to the lawyer side. so there is a huge problem with this book, and therefore i think that it will resemble a lot of the it just as that would be done in other cases of journalist being killed by the israeli army. jody. i'll give you the last word in new york, whether it's in pan, assigned, or myanmar. how do we combat impunity? we start by recognizing that assassin said, journalists, a people, the reason they are targeted is for the stories they're producing. and those stories of vital to all of us, the vital for our ability to live freely in just societies and recognizing that is the 1st step to making sure that these journalists have justice

. thank you very much for a very interesting conversation. thank you. sounds and i chung night and jody ginsberg. thank you for joining us on this edition of inside story and thank you to for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and of course you can join the conversation on twitter handle. is that a j inside story from me for the back when the whole team hearing doha? thanks for watching bye for now. ah ah

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