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brazil, i'm the i'm a good looking one in the thanks to a welcome debut goal from a 17 year old legend in the making. nobody heard of pell a. i can always remember, vividly is pick the ball up in his own off. and he's gone. pass 3 was defenders a leash knocked the ball and jacket. his manager just we saw it like who is this? who is this kid? nobody wrote in. i mean, that was the emergence of possibly the greatest football in the world is ever seen was, was, was fairly the country's traditional national sports. rugby union has often overshadowed football in wales. but the journey to capital 2022 has seen the football team take the spotlight. rugby has always represented what it means to be . wow, certainly. so i said, well, i think watch football team of now taken on that mantle. the players are heroes in this country. everybody felt really emotional about 2016 and hearing that from the
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welsh anthem for the 1st time in a major tournament. but i think going to catch our and hearing it again, the usa in that 1st game, that will be something else. wales may not need to come to the spirit of 958 when they kick off on november 21st. the spirits of 2022 seems to be in a hurry out there caught it me al jazeera, these top stories, holes of opened to the united states, mid term elections on the way result will define the final 2 years of president, jo biden's term, a for publicans managed to take control of both houses of congress. it could derail his legislative agenda. the balance of power in congress is likely to come down to battle. ground states like nevada, wisconsin, georgia, and pennsylvania,
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to see what else to say. yeah, and you people who left to right bank part of caution region for the left bank are in a safe condition. the evacuation is over, where people may now leave into each other if they play via the hotline. but i repeat, they must do it individually as of today. mobile. okay, those are jo had lines lots more on our website out zera dot com to check it out. coming up next in size toy. ah ah, the battle for the u. s. congress from democracy to the economy, to abortion. the states in this year's mid term elections arc, serenely high,
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but in a divided countries, what really shapes voters choices? and what will it mean for jo biden's presidency? this is an hide store. ah. hello and welcome to this special insight story from washington dc. i'm paddy call him on tuesday. american voters will decide who will represent them in congress. at the moment, democrats hold a very slim majority in the house and the senate, but that could change after these mid term elections. the united states is greatly divided on issues from immigration to abortion, the economy and democracy itself. there are 435 seats up for grabs in the house of representatives, while 35 of the 100 seats in the u. s. senate are up for reelection,
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and this vote will shape how jo biden's final 2 years of his 1st term will turn out . will vary in our guests in a moment. first, this report from alan fisher in washington. the big guns are out in the final days before the midterm elections, the democrats won't need to generate a big ta night. the selection is not a referendum, it's a choice. it's a choice between 2 vastly different visions. for america, traditionally, the party in the white house can expect to get hammered, and the polls are pointing that we joe biden's bow approval rating. doesn't help voters when they can't vote at the top of the ticket year's elections as a referendum on the party in power. and so most the time the president's party loses the seats in house during mid term elections. losing the house could spell real problems for jo biden's agenda and legacy since he took power inflation, despite prices for food and gas have risen his successes and cutting drug prices
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addressing climate change rebuilding infrastructure is not energizing booted. republicans want to end the january 6th hearings, investigate biden, for as yet unspecified reasons. reform hope payments are made to your seniors and some are pushing for a restrictive national abortion law. biden can veto some of that, but not all an energized republican party could shrink his presidency as with any president that exists in a divided government, it will be much more difficult for him to get anything done. and as we know in an air of polarization, what we've experienced in the last 30 plus years is that presidents in divide a government have a very difficult time passing their agenda. many republicans running this time roam, believe the last presidential election was stolen and they won't commit to accept the result. if they lose that leaves many experts worried that this could undermine the whole election process. if there is any sort of, ah, massive kind of error. ah, there are challenges there are recounts,
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there are audits. so i said not concede to refuse to accept the results as long as all of those processes have been ah, gone through. ah, is ah, just further our roads trust in the system. the pain of the economy remains, water's top, concern, hammering. he could leave by not just unable to push the agenda. things are looking good, but might damage him so badly. the idea of running again in 2024 could be ended right here. i want to sure, i'll just either washington. let's now bring in our gas. joining me here in washington dc. me m b carther. she's an associate professor at the school of public policy at the university of maryland. brett brett brewing is a former director of global engagement in the white house under president brock, obama and l. dell franco. he is republican strategist and assistant administrator of the united states agency for international development under president george
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bush, a warm welcome to the program. i was so excited when they told me that they want to be part of this conversation because i've been an age myself. i've been covering american politics since the early ninety's in iowa. i have no clue how this election is going to go, and i've never said that before in all of my years covering elections. so just for audience, a little perspective, the prep, the president's party almost always loses seats in the house. the senate in the midterm elections, the cook political report said since the civil war, the president's party lost the house. $37.00 out of $39.00 times 92 percent. so when you go to each one of you predict for me, the house of representatives, what's going to happen? i think we're probably going to take back the house. i think that's without question at this point, while the margin of victory has adjusted a little bit, i think it went from being like a 96 percent certainty to maybe like a 94 percent certainty. it's still pretty clear the republicans are going to take
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the house. so brett a day going to take the house and it's going to be big. well that's the real question is how much are they going to win by and if they do exceed expectations and again, yes everybody and believes that they will win. but if we're talking double digits in terms of seats that they have, that is going to give them something of her mandate and they're going to use that mandate to try. as you mentioned, mounting investigations, mounting at every turn roadblocks for bite in, in his last 2 years. okay. adolfo, what do you think? well, we're close enough now to the election that we can make a solid prediction. the house will go definitely for the republican party. they just need 5 seats to take the majority. but you absolutely right. the question is the size of the majority, not only because of a mandate, but a working majority for the new incoming speaker who will likely be kevin mccarthy of california. there are factions and the republican party,
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just as there are in the democratic party with alex and casa cortez. and it progressive had to name or exact repub doesn't for him, but you need to have a working majority of at least 20 to 30 seats for kevin mccarthy to control that caucus, meaning the republican, new republican majority. so i think the key that night will be, if it's under 20, it will still be a republican controlled congress, but will be very different. difficult to pass legislation among even republicans, if it's closer to the 40 than he had, he can lose 101520 members consistently and still be able to pass legislation. now let's move on to the senate because this is fascinating to me. these races are insanely tight, like every paul is within the margin of error. now we can get into whether pulling actually works any more in the po, shame, area of politics. but what do you think senate? well, couple of things. i think you're absolutely right about this is the question about
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polling that's i think that would be the most interesting thing. the next day is over, the polls are accurate because there's a lot of controversy where people answer polls if they're telling that the pollsters what they really believe. so up, but answer your questions as i from pulling worlds going to be on the ballot and in many ways, ah, the answer your question is, i think it all points to republican up holds really 4 key race. it's everyone's looking at pennsylvania, georgia of nevada, arizona. republicans need to win 2 of those really to have a majority of 51. so just to stickley speaking, it probably will be possible to do that, particularly nevada and ga. look to be the most promising for republicans. we'll get to george in a minute, but that's a whole other wide go and george a story. brentley theory. little bit more helpful. and for sam not no. i think the republicans are likely to take the senate probably around $52.00 seats and extra
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margin in the senate will give mitch mcconnell more room. and one thing that adolfo didn't mention, which i think for our international viewers will be important to take account of is that if kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell have a little bit of wiggle room, that actually can be beneficial for our politics. because it means that they can ignore the freedom caucus in the house, which a sits on the outer extremity of even republican maga, politics. and that could leave some room for compromise. and so it is important in some ways, if the republicans get a wider majority, they don't have to hew to that extreme edge of the party quite as often. are you unicorn a democrat who thinks it's actually better if for the country that if the republicans when big? well, it is a peculiar position. it really is. but at the same time, it's true because just like in our party where you know the progressive caucus can
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push nancy pelosi, joe biden out in a half over the last couple of years in the next 2 years. if we have a party that is driven by the marjorie taylor greens by some of the gym, jordan's and others who really are trying to pick fights or trying to push the republicans even farther out into the, the outer rings of the universe of political philosophy. they're not dangerous of normalcy, of normalcy. and so i think some ways in a strange logic and calculation as a democrat who's looking out at the polls right now and saying, what's the silver lining? that's the silver lining in a big republican wave. bnb. look, i can't disagree my colleagues, right? i mean, i think the republicans had the winded their backs right now. i don't know that there is enough of a compelling case when you think about was pushing people to show up on tuesday or early voting. right. and we know that inflation, right,
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we know that is pushing people and they are really deeply unhappy. people feel uncertain, people feel insecure and we know that usually plays well for public policy. quite frankly, we're going to get into that in a minute. but i think the bigger question for, especially for an international audience is what president biden's insane prime time speech, democracy, the fate of democracy is on the line at this election. is it and how so? we'll look. i mean, i think we're young democracy. i think people think about our democracy is beginning when our country began, but it really didn't begin until 1955. so we are very young. you were to play 1950 . yes. up. sorry. so the voting rights act of 1965 really insured for the 1st time that most racial, ethnic minorities in the us could participate in the electoral process. in some ways you can view it as kicking out the sort of old authoritarians in the south who were really blocking a black access to the ballot, but also access for indigenous people. latino people,
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asian people. so you don't really get full democracy in the united states until 1965 and after. so we're a young democracy. and i think when we look at some of the races in some of these key states, whether we're talking about georgia, if some of these other states, we're also talking about places that have been more restrictive in starting to sort of call, if you will, the electorate and it's not just through, you know, access to the ballot is also through gerrymandering. like we've seen a tennessee in other places where we have candidates above or parties essentially picking their voters. and that's happening on both democratic and republican fads. it's not all or sort of one sided thing. so the problem, i think when we talk about this electoral process, we're talking about it. um, from this perspective of this election means that if people don't accept the outcome, will we see more. busy january 6 like behavior will we see more whittling away at public trust in the integrity of our elections?
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and i think that is true. now will it be more violent like january 6, maybe not. but i think the sort of subtle calling into account our institutions and saying, well, these congressional investigations aren't really working right there. naturally, non partisan. it's, you know, secretaries of state who are also on the ballot and some of the same places where we saw lots of alleged denial control. thanks. we won't confirm, right. these elect or outcomes. that's a really in city is kind of chipping away at democracy. it's an experiment, it's a verb in, if we don't protected in at the people that were electing to protect it, say, this is not working because my side it, when it's cheating, then i think we are in trouble for those who might not know, gerrymandering is i think was a guy named jerry who drew a district the looks like a salomon adamant. and so basically these as they use the census data. so a lot of these congressional districts, they're drawn and both parties do this. they figure out where their voters are and the district doesn't look like a circle. it looks any. i mean,
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you can find any number of bizarre shape. so that's plain apart. but brett, are you worry? you know, when i'm worried most for is november 2024 because you likely are going to have republican control of congress, which wasn't the case in 2020. and so now you have trump returning to a presidential election with republicans firmly and control in congress as well as in a number of key states. that is a dangerous moment. and that's a moment which stands out to me as one where democracy truly will be hanging in the balance. i think the democrats have an opportunity in this election to show what democratic behavior looks like, except the result and don't call into question some of the institutions don't call into question some of the practices and start focusing now on our message for 2024
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because a, another opportunity for democrats lies in the fact that some of those candidates, like herschel walker in georgia, like kerry lake in arizona, may end up defining republicans and certainly with the help of donald trump. they can. and i think the blockages that we're likely to see here in washington may lead to trouble for the republicans in 2024. so that for me is the key moment, but is folks overseas may not know our presidential election start on wednesday. and that is going to be a long road to the white house and it's going to be a difficult campaign really functional system. i see you chantelle? it's a bit over there. i am old that you know it's under respect to my friend. it's amazing how they fear the american people the president has said, i think in a very dismissive inflammatory way, democracies on the ballot. now the ballot is democracy. i think he has it wrong.
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the ballot is democracy. so the will, the american people, their decision is not question. ah, if they win, it's amazing that the questioning comes when they lose, i suppose, stacy abrams, who never accepted her defeat, who says she still the governor of georgia. now let's now it will please. now she's a here i should, i had baseball that well that the point is this. they another link is inside baseball. she didn't leave a, the election was stolen. she said she won the election. she never accepted the election and she never conceded that so those were her words. you hillary clinton, the former nominee instead of the election. what stolen from her now when it comes to the liberal press and the liberals on the left, this is just past the bread. but when the american people are choosing their elected representatives and what appears to be including and ga, record, turn out that we're seeing and level enthusiasm in both parties. if the outcome is
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not what they want, there is a threat to democracy. by the way, these many of these tromp candidates who will, when we're being financed by the democratic are going to get any better that i had was amazing that their threat for democracy is very short lived. well, get into that. but as also i have to ask you, i saw that you said the, what happened in january sex? was the mob not an internet correct? the definition of insurrection is a violent uprising against an authority or government. and i have to at full disclosure, i was there that day i was covering it. i was surrounded by an angry, terrifying mob. and i've done some really scary stories in my life. never ever been that scared of an assignment in my life. how. how was it not an insurrection when their goal was to stop the election? well, a mom of people can do anything. they want an insurrection suggest, an organized effort. there was absolutely i with all due respect, i have
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a different opinion, no evidence. but that has been the case at all, and in fact, there was a justice department which i trust more investigation prior to this part. listen, committee, that is and in the congress as deciding that to looking into this matter, there's a better feller inside. they were not appointed by the 1st time of the history that states that were not appointed by the speaker. and there are 2. 02 republicans that are really functionally democrats. it's, it's a joke and everybody knows it to be. but let me ask your answer your question, was it a concerted 93 day attack on the court house in portland, oregon, and it's direction. do doubt there are protesting bully frog parolee violence, a hard kind of turnover. and while they were trying to and, and there were trying to undo the judicial branch of the united states, taking over parts of seattle burning down things. okay. the, the, the weight, the, the attorney general of massachusetts saying we have to burn down the system. that is not at a thought of an assault on democracy. i'm gonna move on from here,
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but you know, what didn't happen in portland, they didn't try to hang the vice president. they didn't injure a 140 on by justifying a mob patty, in any sense of the world. think of our and any but what we're moving on on. so i am concerned about where this country is right now when it comes to political violence. maybe our viewers don't know this, but in arizona because of the big lie. we've just had people show up with masks and guns and steak out polling places. the judges now put some restrictions on them. but let's think about paul pelosi. he is an 82 year old man who was in the middle of the night. someone broke into his house, someone who has a believe the election was stolen, believes conspiracy theories wanted to come after his wife, the speaker of the house beat him in the head with a hammer. and some republicans are actually making light of this. now let's just listen to this. it is not impossible to protect our kids at school. they act like
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it is nancy pelosi. well, she's got protection when she's in the superior house doesn't have a lot of protection. but listen, i, i want to stop for a minute and, and her listen. speaker boys use husband or break him last night in their house and he was assaulted. there's no room for violence anywhere, but we're going to send her back to be with them in california. that's what we're going to go to. that's a we're going to go to that was carry like the republican candidate for governor of arizona and the current governor of virginia young can. there's also been some really tweets, some interesting tweets. ted cruz, a senator from texas. he retreated, someone questioning whether the attackers motivation now in social media, he is an election deniers. i mentioned conspiracy theorist. instead of saying he was a liberal, someone wrote that, you know, he was the, this guy was a liberal, that it's possible to think that he was for republicans. and ted cruz retreated. that same truth. congressmen claudie attorney, sent out over a picture of
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a bunch of guys with hammers outside of a house and just wrote l o l. donald trump junior treated out a pair of underwear, which mr. pelosi was wearing because he was sleeping in his house at 2 in the morning and a hammer any road? got my paul pelosi hollowing costume. ready? the don junior is beyond the pale. i mean, he's an 82 year old man who had surgery and was not the i see you for 6 days and has a very long recovery. not a politician just yet. how do we get here all that we've been sliding to this place for very long time. i mean, the polarization that we're seeing, i think, is probably more than we've seen. but we've been moving hears if the reagan years and has been a steady mart. and i think when we see a deterioration in political conversation, when we pick people, not because we think they have the best way for it, but because they can create a world of an us versus of them that makes us feel comforted and safe. i think that's how we get here. and i think what's really disturbing about this
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conversation, whether we're talking about election denial, where we're talking about whether it's a mob or insurrection, splitting those kinds of hairs. and not being able to call a thing a thing without saying what? well, the other guy did it too. that's not the point. so something wrong i think has edward no, it is and actually laying that january 6 it have never happened. doesn't indict one of the other is just calling it what it is. apparently in saying, but a protest is not the same thing as saying we want a halt, the counter the rotor and bring me nancy pelosi and bring me my pants erecting a gallows. that's not the same thing, and i think this is the dear deterioration of discourse that we're talking about is not that we can't disagree is not that even. we can't say, hey, our person was wrong. but if you're going to do every time, somebody says, hey, this is a bad idea, this is terrible and you'd have, oh no, but the other gas made fun of this to, that's not okay running out of time. but i do want to point out, washington post has looked at the 569, g o p. candidates for house senate keach real estate races and 51 percent deny the
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2020 election. there is a supreme court case that's going to come up that might give state legislatures full control over how legislations go. so if the election deniers are in charge of the elections, so let me ask you this and i need you to be very brief. what happens if trump's candidates, when let's go to brett, because we don't have much time. i think unfortunately, we are going to see further erosion both in terms of the voting process. you're going to see voting, the places where you can vote restricted, you going to see more places go away. but also, i think we are going to lose what remains of some semblance of fact based policy. we're going to start making policy based on conspiracy theories were going to make policy based on the whims of a former president who's just trying to stay relevant. and i just want to add one
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additional point. the democrats have to really go back and rework their message because if they couldn't find a winning message after january 6, after the efforts by the supreme court republicans to so radically restrict control over one's body. if they couldn't find a winning message after a successful effort to defend ukraine from a russian invasion, i don't know what they need in order to win on. we're only down to one minute l dal phone. if trump's candidates lose this, trump ism di know, and i don't think they will lose, you had to remember the so called trump candidates, the people who didn't get the nomination. we're all asking for president trump's endorsement dates to president. trump just happened to pick one of them. so 87 percent of republicans support president trump, that's just a fact. but republicans also like power. we have to stop the disco there on. so i
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know this is such a fun discussion. i still have absolutely no idea what's going to happen on tuesday, but just going to be consequential. i think we can say that. so thanks to all of our guest, neon b. carther, brett bruin, and l dal franco, and thank you for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle as a date and at ha, inside story for me, paddle haine and the whole team here in dc and in doha bye for now. ah
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