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wing prime minister deal with the found off and how much responsibility lies with the rest of the european union? this is inside story. ah . hello and welcome to the program. i'm getting obligated. italy is new right. wing prime minister is facing the 1st major test of her pledge to block migrants rescue ships . georgia maloney's government is refusing to allow hundreds of people to disembark at the sicilian port of cataneo, the, the norwegian flag charity vessel g o. barons arrived on saturday after rescuing 621 migrant on refugees, women, children, and 6 people were allowed off. but the government says the men on board are not vulnerable and must leave italian waters. dozens of people are stuck on another

boat. the german flags, humanity, one humanitarian organizations are suing the italian government, saying everyone on the rescue ships are vulnerable and are entitled to protection under international law. we will never leave the port as long as there's one person on board our vessel, which has the right for international protection, which has the right to reach safe land. well, italy's interior minister says the rescue vessels are failing under the flags of certain countries. and these countries must shoulder some of the responsibility while your senior language approach and we want to point out our approach. we respect people, respect, human needs and respect these people's emergencies. but the end of this check, those who do not qualify according to the international organizations, must be taken out of territorial waters. so the ship will be asked to leave italian territorial waters. germany's government says it's working closely with italy. this

is about natalie, rich fish. it's important to all the rescue to people on board the ships can go ashore and all can be taken care of appropriately. and this is what we as the federal government. so continuing to work for, we were in close contact with italian authorities about these 2 ships and also about the other ships are involved in this issue. we are working very specifically to ensure that the refugees and migrants receive appropriate care. so it really is one of the main gateways into europe. and since the beginning of the year it seen a sharp increase and migrant arrivals. about $87000.00 people have arrived so far this year. bye. see that compared with $55000.00 in the same period last year. the majority set sale and small overcrowded boats and are mostly from egypt and is your and bangladesh, italian government figures. so half of all refugee applications are rejected. and this is usually because authorities believe another country is responsible for the claim. ah,

let's not bring in our guest. joining us from room is cecilia study lotta, who is an italian political analyst, and assistant professor at the university for foreigners produce and read. jo calabria is her amena pawsman, who is a humanitarian activist and member of mission lifeline. she was involved in a rescue operation in red geo. and joining us from florence is valerie from john, who's a professor of politics of european integration at the university of floor. and welcome to you all. thanks so much for your time with us on inside story. i'll start off with me an appointment and read your 1st because from what i understand, you are with the crew from the german run rise above vessel, which entered italian waters over the weekend. first of all, can you tell us about the conditions of the migrants and refugees on board and at how many there are so yes, so as you can see in front of the west, the rise above that was allowed to end to report this morning and all our guests

that were still on board were 289 guests and we could embark without any problems. and so now we don't have any guests on board anymore and, but in the last days, the condition of the them when really, really bad. so it went completely critically. we had to evacuate aid for medical reasons, at least 6 persons because they collapsed on board of our vessel. and yes, that was what, let me tell us, tell us what led to the moment that everyone on board was allowed to disembark. because from what we understand from some of the other vessels, only women and children have been allowed to disembark and the men were not allowed to. we have yet no inflammation about this. we got yesterday the 1st contact from the authorities and they told us we can go to the port of retro alicia

calabria. sorry and, but it was not given as a port of safety and they were not given any reasons why we could enter this port. so we were just happy that we could enter the court and that the people are in need . if he doesn't box ok. and once the refugee is a migraines, disembarked and entered the port, just give us a sense of where, where they go to next. and what sort of services and facilities are available to them. so you're at the called at the peer. there were some medical organizations deborah for lisa on team. and everybody was checked and also checked or injure injuries. and afterwards they were to buy 2 buses and went to a like a gym or something in this way. and now they have to their i have no information about the conditions inside. ok, thank you so much for that. update from it as your let me go over to cecilia. so

we've been hearing from her mina that 89 people from, from the vessel that she is connected to have been allowed to disembark. but the fact is, you still have at least 2 other vessels, a stranded at sea, where the men so far are not allowed to disembark. county thing to stand off is going to be settled because rome as you've been hearing and says that the countries whose flags these angio boats are flying, they should bear the responsibilities for the migrants, had refugees. and they and jose are saying that italy is breaching international law by keeping the migrants on the ship. yes, absolutely. i think that what you just said is correct. i think that these are sort of a theory that the minister, interiors of italy put full. what about the fact that the, the state of the sheep's plans basically should be cooperating is not, doesn't really find any bases in international law. so i think that day, at the end yos in this sense,

are correct in claiming debt. italy at this point with the idea of selective these embark meant the idea that the other states should be corroborating before people are put in a situation of safety is actually breaching international law. so i think, i mean, and then the stand off will find a solution, i think, as it happened with many other similar situations which occurred in the past few years. i would just like to add debt. i mean, we're devoting much more attention to the situation now, but actually, even in the past month when, you know, under my, your driving is watch, we witnessed several ships, you know, stained off. so it took days before in many patients before the so called migrant ships, where able to where allowed to disembark there. ok,

how to go out? you're rid of mario dragon because i'm going to come back to you a little later and, and i just put to you what he said earlier this year when it came to the ukranian refugees. but let me bring in valerie a jonah and florence for just a moment. so the charities the n g o is have denied circumventing procedures and they say that it's their duty to protect people that are in distress, etc. but as we know, the new italian government has campaigns on a hard line migration policy. so for the new prime minister, she just carrying out the promises that she made to her voters a. so i guess that's what she's doyle on made streaming, disappointed with what italian government is doing, but i'm also disappointed with european union. unfortunately, the issue, the migration is initial, which is unresolved that you level. so, i mean, helen government is not behaving well, i think actually i'm

a shame of being italian right now. i'm at the same time that the point is that the countries on the mediterranean obviously face a burden when it comes to migration. and this burden cannot be only handled by the countries that are the facing them editor in which is greece, italy, spain, or cyprus, a milder. and if we look at what the, i mean, the legal basis of you action are and look at what the. busy treaty and the functioning of the european union says candidly, we see that it's a shared responsibility, but it's not just a legal issue. if we look at a legal issue, and we would have to mention article $7083.00, which says of the threat of treaty on the function of the european union india event of one or more member states being confronted. i'm reading the article, an emergency situation, characterized by a sudden inflow of nationals of 3rd countries. the council on a proposal from the commission may adopt visual measures for the benefit of the

members. they'd concern. but still this is not such an emergency situation. if you look at the numbers, and this is the point, and this is a situation if we confront, if we compare the numbers of what's going on, it's not such a huge number of people. this is not a big crisis. as the current government is pretending it's for political reasons because this, this issue migration arises public opinion and, and the government is prime sort of it, sir. i'm gonna use a hard term at a distraction, a from big shoes because we're talking about a few 100 people. ready and in fact, it for the other ship, it was only 34 people that were left on board. so with booked it up an enormous bottom right. valerie, but let me ask you this. i mean, this issue of migration has been a burning political issue since yet. at least 2014, when there were a lot of migrants turning up on european shore. so to what extent that that fuel

the rise of both the league and maloney's brother, so mentally party which is now are right when governments in place yes, definitely. it's ability, as i said, the issue has been like his eyes. if we look at long term interest of europe, we need more migrants and this is something that was completely overlooking. so it's, it's just, it's a matter distraction on the issue. but the real problem is that in europe, we do not have enough workers to take care for instance, of our aging population. so we actually need more migrants, but in fact, it's not just in italy, also another european countries. we had the rise all rightly populous parties, and for then migration it is initially you can focus all of the attention so that you don't really look at what the problems are. okay, and i'm hearing in her mean i for a moment just for the sake of time, armina over to you and read a note and you at least government adopted him as a recent lot, a recently formalizing the closer of its ports to rescue ships that are run by

humanitarian groups such as yours. do you expect a white or crack down on n g o's? an if so, how is that going to impact your work? actually, hopefully this will not happen because this will be a step back to the year 2018 where exactly the same happened. and as we all know, there were a lot of trials and cases the on course, but in any cases, so the n g o side got right and did nothing wrong. so we're acting completely with the law. and i cannot imagine that something like, like you minutes area and 8 will be criminalized in this way. and hopefully it will not happen again like this as a failure. we keep talking about the right when government, that's an that's currently in place right now. when the migration policies, but the, the, this incident signal, the step back for italian authorities or is this new governments simply

resurrecting policies that we've seen implemented in the past. for example, in 2018, 2019, you had closed ports policy implemented by the interior minister and far right leader. my tell us on vini. yes, absolutely, to boise has been consistent over the years. and that will even add that in fact, the current sort of str framework that's equally adults for the management or migration which is geared towards a securitization on migration. like tweeting migrants as a security threat, will something that was introduced before even solving it wasn't government by a democratic party that he had sent a left a government. right. so technically things haven't changed that much. so in terms of framework, what, of course, as the calling in florence was, was saying what it would change and what he's changing is sort of the instrumental a zation of these issues. and i would add to the previous question. you ask, i think it's very important to consider that again, we are witnessing this kind of war being waged against angie owes. but even

blocking angio wouldn't solve the problem. and if you look at the figures like how many people arrive be needs any to boston days. and i think we're like about 9000 people arrived to shores and, and actually only one about 1000 where on board angel ships re so, and waging this war against. and jose wouldn't even start to deal with the problem if we want to call it like a problem. ok, cecilia, here's the thing. valerie was saying a moment ago that this could be a way for the government to distract from the domestic issues that are going on in the country. i mean, do you agree with that? because as we saw in the election, the main issues for voters were the rising energy prices. it wasn't flacier, it was italy's policy towards russia and ukraine. but at the same time, the prime minister and the parties a did campaign on a hard line and t migration platform and they've been elected into power. so do

italians expect a hard line policy when it comes to migration? snag, we went under percent with a cold again broke up in florence. absolutely. it's a diverse, like it's kind of a diverting attention towards a fabricated problem because in fact, even edaly is elect, the rate that would say was and still is very much worried about the coastal living cries is energy, war, etc. and, but at the same time, migration is always been on highly controversial issue. so it's very convenient right now for the government. i wouldn't even say that this is a test for the government. the quite the opposite. it is very convenient for each of these gun right now to be able to talk about migration rather than explaining to the country how they're gonna deal again with the cost of living crisis. what it, what, what the plans are for the future. in terms of, you know, security a,

b, b, b, in russia, ukraine, war, et cetera. ok. let's bring in valerie and florence. i know this, and this could be a bit of a general question, but how much support do you think? how much public supported valerie, do you think there is an italy for a heart or a migration policy? well, i think when 1st of all, we should remember only 26 percent of the of those who went out and voted actually voted for maloney. and although okay, we have a sent the right or of or extreme right government in our but that doesn't correspond to the majority of the population in italy because they were 60000000 people that simply didn't go out and bone. so we should remember that a lot of people in italy are not actually supporting. got the current government. okay. so it's, it's due to the electoral law. and actually if you look at the importance of n g o in italy and especially of the catholic church, you will see that

a lot of people are in fact in favor of a different approach for migration. oh, can you rely on it or has a very interesting survey that was made about a year ago and that shows how perceptions can sort of be even wrong. and but what im out of that you are there on with a survey, is that a lot of people in europe felt that the, in the presence of migrants in their own country was much higher than it truly is. and which means that in a problems with the perception, so the issues politicize in it depends what is the message of the political parties are handing out. okay, let's jump in there for the sake of time. my apologies, armina from what you've seen on the ground, how much hostile has at least policies towards migrants and asylum seekers become in recent years. was listed as really a big impact and the people who, when you're, when you're at see outside, you can see the people are really, really suffering in immediate danger of life. and it's also if they accept on the

ships um like yeah, like hostages, i would say a horrible scenario that you can see and the people are really, really suffering. and i think it's in absolutely no go, that the politics are deciding both the decisions on the ship about the people and the ships that were just from, from just this case. as celia and rome, you were mentioning mario draggy at the beginning of the program. so this is what he said earlier this year, and i'm quoting italy has welcomed refugees from ukraine with open arms. more than 85000, mostly women and children have sought shelter from the war in our country. italians have thrown open the doors of their homes and off their schools. we will not look the other way. i mean, you know, a lot of people say the double standard here are really, really glaring. is a certain type of refugee then that they want to be allowed into italy. i think it's a, it's a, it's up to the evidence to anyone right at this double standard there. why are we

treating, for instance, syrian refuge asylum seekers and ukrainian? i some seekers differently, right. and we also saw certain things that we wouldn't have wanted to see on the a for instance, you repeat border we ukraine where for instance, ukrainian citizens who were not white where it rejected for instance, right. or to be, were told to go back to the end of the q and they were not being left in. so i think there is absolutely, there is a double standard in these, in this sense and actually maloney blade and also saline. during the electoral campaign natalie they were using is a lot they were saying, for instance, that those who can quote those across them and didn't mimic iranian or chips. they're not real migrants, right? like they or real refugees, the real refugees are for instance, ukrainian ones, right? so this kind of narrative, i think, is very dangerous, like sort of discriminating between who is a natural, you know, good refugee or who is, is not. i think it's, it's very, very tricky,

right. valerie, what is the role here for european countries as a whole? you were, you were mentioning the responsibility and where it lies just a moment ago. i mean, we saw european countries come together and share responsibility when it came to ukrainian refugees. and rightly so, because a refugee is a refugee at the end of the day. but when it comes to people coming from other countries, what is the role of european countries and how do you get them to share that responsibility with countries like italy, for example? yeah, as well, my answer is that unfortunately, right now the majority of european political leaders are very short sighted. so they're really concentrating on short term issues and very often on falling the next elections at. so it's very difficult to have a long term strategy. this is what we're missing europe. now. africa is right in

front of us. it's the continent right in front of us. we seem to be ignoring what's going on in back continent because we keep pushing our own agenda. for instance, the digit duct transition, a priority is digital transition, proud. in the case of africa, maybe we should consider what's actually going on in that continent. so, for instance, we're talking about 9000 people over recent days. we should be considering that in the case of the african continent, you have in the tunnel displaced a mike in socal displaced persons and internally forcibly displaced. we're talking about millions you. belinda has 1000500 refugees in its own territory. so the size of what's going on in africa, it's so much bigger than what comes over to europe. and if we don't understand that it's in our own interest, and in the interest of the african continent to approach the issue in a different way, i think it's really gonna back fire on us, right?

loyal it. and i have a nice, let me ask you this, then we'll italy's tough, new approach to divide you members. because following a, one of the vessels that entered the italian water is berlin, denied any responsibility for the ship. that vessel flying under a german flag berlin saying we have nothing to do with this. an italy should be the one to allow rescued people ashore. but then you heard from hunger is prime minister victor urban, who said that quote, we owe a big thank you to maloney's government. we are very far from solidarity. so the dairy region is what is written in our treaties. we are very far from sort of, there is the and the point is that, so the better is also in our only chris. so what we're doing right now is, from my point of view, is not in the interest of europe, the kind of approach it would take into the problem. and the fact that we're not supporting a company such as italy because it's clear that italy cannot take all of the

responsibility for what's happening. but we should also be aware that my going said coming into europe even from other parts of the world, but just need them to get there. anyone is right, just a small my not you people the coming from the medicare in. ok. cecilia final words to you if you'd like to comment on what valerie was saying, we have about 30 seconds left on the program. yes, absolutely. i think that the big issue here is a, have the short sightedness, so to speak, of the political aids in europe. and we really and the wrong thing, just to conclude is that now dr. milani's, rightly calling for more slowly died already from the you. but actually the leaders of that week, which are against that of course, you can, you know, i, precisely, the national leaders that are also procedure to be here to be her sort of political allies and counterparts like my bond, for instance, where we go there hardships, there on that, no, thank you so much for joining us. thanks to all my guest cecilia with a lot harmony pawsman on binary far to join. thank you so much. thank you for

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