suspended those negotiations. one is sun wall, so made sure we announced the suspension of the china us climate talks, but the responsibility lies totally on the u. s. side. the u. s. breach the sign o u. s. joint communicate. so we hope the u. s. takes the initiative to clear the barriers. this is trying to start. the responsibility doesn't lie on china's side, but on the u. s. sorry, that the war senegal has suffered. what's potentially a huge set back with well kept just 11 days away. it's been reported at their main man said your money is out of the tournament. the senegalese people association is closely assessing the situation after the reigning african player of the year suffered a knock to his chin while playing for by munich on tuesday. the forward couldn't continue and was replaced 20 minutes into the match.

ah, reminder the top stories on al jazeera, the russian military says it's withdrawing from a major battle ground in southern ukraine. russia's defense minister has ordered troops to retreat from the to the pro river near the city of hassan and set up defenses on the eastern bank and ukrainian forces had been advancing in the house on region for several weeks now. as on, as the only regional capital that russia had managed to seize, since the invasion is thrown out from you for issues as a glove. so having comprehensively assessed the situation. i propose that we take up defensive positions along the left bank of the disney pro river. i understand this is a very difficult decision, both. at the same time, we will say most importantly, the lines of our troops and the overall combat effectiveness of our forces. whom it

is futile to keep on the right bank in a restricted area. in addition, it will free up some forces and means they will be used for active operations, including offensive ones on other fronts. us midterm elections have turned into a tight battle for control of congress and the future of president jo biden's agenda. democratic party defined expectations, biden's low approval ratings and anger over inflation. would propel republicans to launch victory, a so called red wave is turned out to be more of a ripple public and still expected to take control of the house of representatives . but by a smaller margin than expected. at least 9 people have been killed in an attack in benny in the northeast of democratic republic of congo. an armed group called the allied democratic forces, has been blamed for the violence on tuesday night. and don't matter which owns

facebook, instagram, and what's up. as announced, largest job cut in its 18 year history. $11000.00 people, nearly 13 percent of its workforce will lose their jobs, after hiring aggressively to meet demand. during the pandemic ceo mach zuckerberg said he had expected growth to continue, but he's now admitted he got this role. the stream is next asking, how eat on mosque will change twitter our back straight after that with more years? do you told me that you can? thanks very much for watching life enough. ah ah,

i anthony ok, thanks for watching the stream he take a look at my laptop. we can see how it all started. the very 1st tweet ever by at jack on march 21st 2006 falls forward to october the 27th of this year. and that is when twitter got a brand new owner. so on today's episode of the stream, we are asking how will twitter thrive on de la moss? this is a conversation you are very much out of with you on twitter, or if you're new chief, do you realize the irony of asking you about foot away on youtube? but the comment section is right here. be part of the dash. ah, we have a panel, a fabulous experts. hello, victoria and jillian and merit. if it's a good to have all 3 of you here in the conversation, latoya, please say hello to international audience. tell them who you are and what you day . i'm victoria elliot, and i am the platforms and power reporter with wired get daddy hello gillian,

satellite audience, around the world. tell them who you are and what you do. hi, i'm the director for international freedom of expression at the electronic frontier foundation, a digital rights organization. all right, great to have you, jillian and meredith. welcome to the stream. these introduce yourself to out audience around the world. thank you for having me. my name is meredith clark. i'm an associate professor in journalism and communication studies at northeastern university and boston. all right, ladies. i had to look to see when you oh, join twitter, victoria june 2012. thank you for your service, meredith. oh, my goodness, 2000. and 9 extraordinary, you've been there for a long time, gillian, you're virtually an o g u joy and february of 2008. i'm going to take some around view as back to the very beginning with a little timeline that takes us back to 2060, remember that 1st treat the i short show d 12006 to, to launch as a micro blogging site. and then in the past 16 years,

they have been now an audience of 200, a 40000000 active uses around the world. average number of tweets in any one day, 500000000 tweets st in a day. gillian, you're almost an o g tennis. oh, what you know tis that's been different since say the end of october, you getting a sense of something different or is it just anxiety? i, you know, i think i'll be honest and say a lot of it is anxiety. there have been small changes so far. there's definitely been an important being of the right of people, you know, making racist comments and harassing others on the platform. but in terms of concrete changes internally, we've seen staff laid off, but we haven't seen any changes to policies or to content migration practices just yet filled or on the verge of them now. so i do want to say that narrative to say i, i think so, i think i find that interesting because i think it all depends on who you are. the

experience that some folks are having, particularly people from structurally marginalized background, women of color, people of color, l g, b, i a folk, they're having a markedly different experience. and while we may say that it's anecdotal, at this point, they are reporting an uptick and harassment and hateful beach. i'm just looking at ed guy here on a guy is from uganda and he starts his tweet with ah, it's very much uncertain future truth to be told. he's here on my laptop here of my laptop. so he does not know, and i think that most so many other twitter uses right now a victory. what can it has concrete that has definite and change in the last few days? well again, i think obviously it depends on the community are part of and you know, it structurally inside the organization. we know that they don't have nearly as many people who are working on their content policy staff right now. and one of the

things that i have heard from people who are outside researchers, who are sometimes in contact with platforms when they find issues. this information networks important, you know, narratives that are spreading is that they don't know who to contact any war about problematic stuff that staying up on the platform. and a really great example of this is brazil, which just had an election, has really been marred by this information around that election that a researcher i spoke to mention that tweets that they might otherwise expect to have been removed or at least would have contacted twitters team about they don't know who to contact and those things upstate up. marty, who, nodding you saying yes, is articulate that, that note go ahead. well, the things that i'm thinking about are the misinformation and this information networks that are not only in brazil and other countries throughout the world. you know, my focus is mostly here on the united states. and we're seeing those same things pop up, but perhaps not in the same way and not in the political arena. and those networks

have been able to pretty much proceed unimpeded because they're not as prominent when it comes to some of the bigger topics. so the election in brazil, or particularly the election in a georgia where folks are still engaging in the bad faith actions that they were taking before. but because it's not seen as important or as prevalent, they're just not getting the same sort of attention. it's interesting that on youtube, our own instead of talking about what's happening right now, jillian, one view is saying, i'm confused that will twitter still be safe or would it not be safe? i think they were all in elements of trip that were very edgy and, and not safer to depending on what community belong to, but that safety aspect, jeanette, what are you expecting to be different? yes, i mean, as married aside, twitter was already not save for a lot of people and i think it is getting worse. but i think that you know,

some of the things to look at going forward. the new verification scheme is absolutely something that concerns me, not just because you know, some of us will have to pay dollars, but there are going to be a lot of people who are now not going to make them to the feeds and who for whom verification provided a set of protections. twitter also getting rid of it. human rights team. that team did a lot of work. ensuring that twitter adhered to the un business in human rights principles . that team gone now in its entirety. and so i think a lot of the concerns are that i have are for people in conflict sounds and in places where that that team had been doing the most work. the far shannon here tweets just recently, november the 4th, have a look here on my laptop. yesterday was my last day at twitter. the entire human rights team has been caught from the company. i'm enormously proud of the work we did to implement you and guiding price principles on business and human rights to protect those at risk dover conflicts and crises, including c o p. victoria. what are you hearing from inside twitter?

what are you seeing from those staff members? has been caught an accident and during jobs that you don't always associate with a social media company, but definitely happening at twitter. well, i think there's, you know, there was a big twitter spaces for a lot of the people that were laid off last week. and i think the biggest take away that you can hear from all the people who are like, oh is that they were incredibly proud of the work that they were able to do at twitter. and that the culture was something that really supported that. whether that's fair met a team, which is their ethical ai team. you know, that was something that didn't exist at any other company, no sort of big for profit social media company was going to invest in studying bias in a i on their platform in the same way that twitter was. so i think there was something really unique about the willingness of the company to engage with sort of the store, to your questions about the role of their platform in modern society, in the ethical implications of the work they were doing. and those people are the

people who have by and large, been cut from the new version of twitter. so i think one of the biggest ideas that ill must, has been sharing a not just recently but, but over a long period of time when he's been a to to use is the idea for speech. and twitter should be a place where free speech can happen. i'm gillian, you stop with what those challenges. aw and emerge if you pick up about the realities. delaney stuff. sure. so you know, i've been looking at twitter is role in the, in the, you know, as the, the public square, so to speak for many years. i'm in twitter started off of the platform that, you know, called itself the free speech wing of the free speech party, back in 2012. and then over the years, recognize the role that it played with respect to, you know, curbing harassment, fighting terrorism and all sorts of other things, including dis, information which has been brought up a few times. they think that now you know,

what you on mosque is trying to do isn't necessarily the same version of free speech that the us would put out. not that, you know, he's not looking to align it better with, with international human rights frameworks. he's looking to amplify certain voices to, you know, yes, he's talked about getting rid of thoughts and span, but ultimately i think that by failing to fight this information, failing to fight some, some of our other societal ills. and then also at the same time saying he is, you know, he wants to adhere to the laws of the land in every country in which they operate. well, what does that mean for users and saudi arabia, for example, meredith, he had just, i don't see that working very well for ilan musk. and in fact, i sort of characterize the way he talked about free speech as really being a can to opening up chaos. i think it provides the civic less than for all of us. you know, here, particularly in the u. s. where twitter was founded, free speech has to do with the government inability to intervene in something that someone says or something that they post, unless it is directly harmful or hateful. if it's one of those prohibited forms of

each. what you, i'm talking about is giving free reign to people who have disproportionate areas of power. disproportionate reaches the power to say what they want to. and he hoped this on the platform that belongs to a private company where folks can say whatever they want. and they can rest assured that the private company isn't going to weigh in on that. that's very different than keeping the government from intervening and saying you can or cannot express yourself. you can or cannot petition your government for a redress of grievances. it's quite different for someone to be able to say whatever wild and outlandish or even off thing that they want to say versus someone perhaps engaging and important political speech. that speaks truth to power. the tory, there's some engagement the i swatted a few days ago which made me smile. it will show you the tweet is right hale, my laptop, the mask treated out. the bird is free. and then from your when you

have in europe, deferred will fly by out e you rose and this is the digital strategy act. i believe. i just double check that, but it's basically laws that in europe make sure that what is happening online is in line with what would happen offline as well. there are rules the regulations, victoria, do you feel that maybe in mosque and what's happening to right now is in a little bubble and then not seeing the whole world of trick just a little bit. it's what is it they say? i definitely think that, you know, before he was the owner of twitter even was a super user of the platform. and he definitely thinks about the platform in that way that this is a place where one would come to broadcast their message and they wouldn't necessarily want to be censored. but most twitter users are not like them. a lot of people lurk and get information. they're not necessarily heavy content creators,

as we make call them and another platform. and i think it's also really important to note in a global sense that twitters conception of free speech is often much broader than a lot of the company, the countries and sorry that it operates. and that can be problematic as we see in the us. but it also can be incredibly important. for instance, in india, twitter has actually filed a suit in the karnataka court to protect the free speech of its users to resist government orders to take down tweets and accounts that the b j. p. government has that are a threat to indian security and sovereignty. and you know, similarly it's protection of anonymity in countries like saudi has allowed to sit in people from marginalized communities to have a voice in a way that they might not otherwise be able to have through traditional media. and so it's what is particularly interesting is that musk has this very sort of

americanized view of free speech, where in our country it's sort of like anything that is not a legal can stay on the platform. but the reality is that what's legal is varies from place to place. and in many places, you know what free speech means for, for twitter is actually been really helpful for journalists and for activists. and if you're going to abide by the laws of the land in those places, those are voices. you're also going to silence them. that seems very odd. and in terms of his commitment to free speech that he's been very vocal, i went to think i had really quickly here. yeah. married. and then it's not just, you know, an american idea of free speech, but it's a partisan idea of free speech. eli muskets seems to be very much aligned with folks that are more right wing here in the united states. and that concerns me frankly. might he adapt the same sort of positions in, say, brazil, or in india, where we have seen tendencies for governments to

a doesn't matter if one pass. and although he has a huge following on twitter and he owns twitter, has those views because twitter is more than one person, isn't it? no, i think so much more than one yet. i'm to the rest of us. it's no actually one pass and maybe like getting this out of proportion. monica no, no his, his reach and has power is what is disproportionate. we're talking about a billionaire who had the ability to borrow. let's be clear enough money to buy this platform. that is networked among a number of journalistic systems. i think that's one of the things that we tend to downplay that we pay attention to the individuals on the platform, but not the connections that the individuals are part of. now, at the helm of twitter, you must, is at the center of a lot of journalism. and we're journalists look for information where they connect with sources. and where they publicize that information and having him in there and

not abiding by any sort of rules or conventions that we are used to, or that we can even predict. this is someone who has been so unpredictable as to say that he would cut off the internet access to ukraine that he was provide providing for that role so that the online community pushed back. and then he changed his mind to. that is the power of the masses as opposed to the individual. so there's, there's going to be a conversation that's going to go backwards and forwards. it's going to be drama filled, but it will be a conversation. maybe just say gillian before i come to that dsa, digital services at which is important. if you're in europe and you're online gillian, go ahead. i'm gonna ask you to make it brief because i also want to get the idea of how does could make money. is not even possible telling you got us sure. yeah. happy to make it read. i mean, i just wanna go back to something that was said about free speech because it's true, of course, that twitter is a private company to do what it wants. but we're looking at a moment where press freedom is on or is i'm backsliding over the world and what

twitter is done for so many users, including a lot of the activists that i work with, has provided a platform where they don't have another platform within their country and so yes, i mean, i think we got, you know, free speech and the 1st amendment kind of confused a little while ago in that free speech does. for me, it is something that exists on these platforms to, especially when they're not other spaces for speech. so let's talk about making money. and if that is even possible for a social media site like twitter. so steve is watching right now from the u. k. i'm still staying with twitter, he says, but i will never pay for it. ah, oh no, it's hillary is that bad news? if people just pay for this, why should i? well, i think, you know, that is something that must, is currently trying to figure out. he just hosted a twitter spaces which was open, but specifically geared towards advertisers where, you know, he said, i think if people have to pay $8.00 a month or if there's sort of

a price of admission that perhaps people won't be as mean to each other. won't be as aggressive, there is much so much hate speech. so, you know, there's, i think there's right now there's a scramble to try and find ways to make money. particular be particularly because the advertisers have been so concerned. and this goes back to sort of his vision of free speech have been so concerned about the type of content up there ads may run next to. and so for twitter generally, there were even before mosque took over there were some criticisms about it, not innovating. c enough to make money. obviously it bought vine and vine was very popular, video sharing platform and, and that died. so, you know, there have been sort of previous criticisms of the company not taking opportunities to build out other revenue streams. and realistically, a lot of other platforms, they look to content creators like instagram or tick tock, influencers as

a way to sort of bring money onto the platform. so i think those will also be on the table as well. and at least what it seems like right now is that, that $8.00 a month may not be for everybody, but he has floated a sort of suggestion of a soft paywalls platform where maybe everyone asked to pay to get in. we don't know yet. and he does if and if nothing else seemed to be responsive, as you mentioned earlier, to push back from users or from particularly vocal people. and we also don't know who is who's talking to him behind the scenes. yes. you are actually on a twitter space here just before we got onto the air at a loss was in that twitter space. what did the same as it was newsworthy, the think? oh, i think again it's, it's mostly about quelling advertiser concerns. office wayne. okay. and you know, one of the things he said was, you know, every, if you have to attach

a phone number and a credit card to every account, it'll be much harder for trolls and misinformation disinformation campaigns to operate on the platform. but, you know, many of these people are very smart operators. they can find ways around these things. credit card of it covers that. i don't believe it. or what could you possibly resolve or not? i was, i was on twitter at the weekend and something really made me feel good about the communities that i'm part of. and the hash tag, which is black twitter. and i was no for about 6 hours because i went down that rabbit ho and didn't come out again. but what was beautiful about this and, and it's the same for science, twitter, people with disabilities to an algebra, 2 q i o. plaster is that the communities have power. i'm boy, each other up support each other. tell stories shad knowledge. i was so encourage motive because what people were saying is that we created

a lot of this content that is fantastic and exciting. and the reason people come here is because of what we do in this space. we're not going anywhere. we are sticking around. what do you make it? i mean, i expect for users who consider themselves part of black twitter to stay for a number of reasons. they're saying they're not going something like mastodon because they will be siloed, essentially, into the different servers that method on uses to sort it's user. one of the things that troubles me about the resilience that black twitter has is that at the same time of recognizing that we do contribute so much to the platform, there's a lot that's also extracted from black twitter and there is no credit. there is no capital, there is no sort of recognition or how much value, black people, black communities and black culture poured into the platform. and frankly, with an owner like you must,

someone who's companies have come under scrutiny for the kind of culture, the hostile culture that they've created around black workers. i have deep concerns about what that means for black users who decide to remain on the platform. i want to actually bring in a voice that takes us into a global perspective for what it does beyond the united states. and banga spoke to us a little bit earlier. have a nice and have a lot. one of the things that we have actually found is that the classroom lends itself too easily to allowing malicious actors to see the narratives into these will be standing section and is something that they have completely been. they're unable to play in the team, especially over the past 2 years in many countries across africa. secondly, the platform is full of widespread to harassment. not only of journalism activists, but even celebrities. just think about the number of celebrities that usually end up seeing that. look, i'm quoting this, glad for. i'm done with the toxicity of this thing and i'm not going to do it

anymore. and i worry that to the direction that it's going, you know, with it going private and with huge lives, so content, motivation, entrusting safety that these things out eventually going to get was the avenues for accountability for the platform by actually shrinking. and that is something that should work. yes. i guess we have so many questions for our new chief audience, so this is gonna be the speed around you have less than 30 seconds to answer all of those questions. victoria, i'm volunteering you festival. we did ela must dismiss so many workers. what are your thoughts about that very briefly? well, he has always been publicly critical of the content, moderation, trust and safety teams. and so i think those lay offs seemed somewhat inevitable and also he's trying to make twitter profitable. he, you know, took

a significant financial hit to buy the platform. and i think the layoffs are also a way of trying to figure out how to keep him from losing money on teacher or if autonomy getting another quick question. i'm going to put this one t, this one comes from stephen. he says out is the area is and left the cesspool. thank you for the compliment. all right, you chip compliments. thank you. i'm content moderation, hates to me is the same as before. on twitter. mosque is simply allowing free speech as guaranteed by the u. s. constitution, meredith, briefly fundamental misunderstanding of what free speech means by a company cannot promote the freedoms that are, is gone in the 1st amendment. those freedoms are upheld by our government government. what we're looking at when we talk about 1st amendment freedoms and the right to free speech is the right to keep the government from interfering in what you have to say. if you know i must decide tomorrow that someone with an opinion on

the platform should go. they will just ask kathy griffin. all right, so victoria joined in 2012 gillian joined in 2008 murder. if joined in april 2009, yes, i am leaving any time soon. no, i'm with black twitter. i'll be here until it's time to turn the lights off. montoya, i'm not leaving, but i'll probably also have a message on account. oh. 1 and julia, i'm splitting my time, i'm staying on twitter because so many of the international activists that i, paul, are still using it to get attention. thank you. guess. thank you, the chief, i'll see you next time. ah aah!

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