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a catastrophic scale. so what preventing an official announcement and wouldn't make a difference on the ground. this isn't 5 story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm the star theater. somalia is facing full blown famine, it's at the country's doorstep. humanitarian agencies have been issuing warnings like that for months. unicef says conditions are worse now than during the last famine back in 2011, but no one has yet made an official declaration. the numbers, the stock, the wild free program says 7100000 people. that's nearly half the population face acute food insecurity. that's when lives are livelihoods are in immediate danger because there simply isn't enough food. 1.5000000 children are malnourished for

failed rainy seasons. of lead to the worst rap now in 40 years. and rushes invasion of ukraine has made staples such as grains and cooking oil unaffordable. millions of people have been displaced. i came to my door on the 2nd of october, and i do not know any one from this town. 2 of my children died here, and the surviving ones are hungry. my family does not have anything to eat, and i don't have the relatives to help me. oh, it was. we're allow cool a la fit. in the last 2 weeks we've come across parents who have lost their children to hunger and drought. the drought is worse than the previous ones. people have reached he from far places and their problem is that they are new to the area and do not have relatives to assist them. now somali as president was asked about the drought and mass hunger at a foreign in washington, d. c. in september. here's what he had to say. we are in f, i mean, but evasion stage like know?

ah, yes, it is bit difficult, but it's working. is set than geographic location, so, so malia liskey is very high to announce if i'm in announcing for i mean, or declared in for mean it's self is a very difficult situation that doesn't affect the, the fact mean victims only, but halters. the development changes the perspectives on everything, or fannin is the most severe kind of hunger crisis, but it's also a technical term. the phases of food and security are carefully defined and classified within a framework known as the i. p. c. fannin occurs when 20 percent of households face extreme food shortages. 30 percent of children suffer from acute malnutrition, and 2 of every 10000 people die from starvation or disease and malnutrition. the decoration is made by several parties, primarily the government and various un agencies. famine can be caused by multiple

factors, including conflict and extreme weather patterns. with early warning and rapid action though it can be prevented, the last famine declared in somalia was back in 2011. at least 260000 people died. ah, well let's now bring in our guests. in mogadishu. we have had a dan. he is a research associate at the london school of economics. he's also an aide practitioner and a humanitarian specialist on somalia. in edmonds in canada is a p r a l. me, he's an author and the executive director of the heritage institute for policy studies. a somali think tank, and also in mogadishu is hot on a li, she's advisor to the mayor of mogadishu. a warm welcome to you all. thank you so much for joining us here. on inside story and i'll start with you because you've been looking broadly at the situation in somalia and, and i'm curious about what the situation is on the ground right at this moment. are we experiencing famine conditions in somalia and it just hasn't been officially declared yet. thank you very much and i will say hi to to the other guest.

and what do we, by the way, we just publish a report on this issue. we met basically everybody that mattress or going to when it comes to this specific issue of funding for the insecurity in somalia, including international organization this and the so model government on people who are on the front line. so what we can to, to the conclusion of the time, which was just about 3 weeks ago, is that the data is not there yet to, to, to conclude that the threshold is the technical threshold. is that, that's the access that for nutrition level. and the main food insecurity artist out of there no question about it. the so what, what is needed to be done is instead of just waiting one or 2 specific point here

and there, the government and the international community must, must act immediately and call this emergency as an emergency and mobilized local resources. so basically not, no one is saying that people are not die be brought in compass. so like not just to focus on the technical part of it. and let's do what we can in order to help rescue the people who are facing the problem. i think we shouldn't be just focusing too much on debate and get a technicality show. well, on that technicality, i want to bring go ahead in here because we are just describing the criteria there deem to which you need to deem that situation of famine. and notably, it's based on how many people are dying. i know that's been an issue of contention in the past. good. how useful is a threshold like that? i know for many of our viewers, it feels like

a very unnatural kind of distinction. thank you very much. and i say, i want to come the guest and just to follow up what i was saying is that of course, to declare fami small political as he did. but i tend to disagree that we are already on the threshold, if not even by, by putting it because when we say, when we described or when the apartment has to be declared, the threshold that, that, that we might need to meet before funding is declared. it's late, for example, the number of death, but them call them the level of malnutrition, the level of people who are in ip 5 or ip 4. and out. of course, it is not enough know why it may not be the same level of the level of the crisis

might not be the same, but they still, we kind of, i thought to the government then that whole community, they don't, as all of declared pockets of funny life, what happened 1011. because in one part of the country we might be really, we might be in a situation which is relatively manageable. but in the other part of the country, we might be again, things like going out of hand. and it's very unfortunate that we tend to or crush the last minutes of course, that technicalities on the life is something that might be something different. but again, i think we have a positive list lot. yeah, we have been caution. we have been discussing this in we have been warning the donors, the government and the international community. and unfortunately, marshall that has not been taken, but it is now that most of the people are feeling good because the

crisis, it's pulling the covers the funding on. well, let me bring in hold on here. hold on. how does the government view this? is there famine in parts of somalia right now? well, thanks for having me and hello to the other guy. i agree. i think there are a lot insecurity across the country. one to many. however, i think there's a lot of emphasis and any time spent on technically defining our declaring spam and rather than being proactive and really engaging and rest of the to attract the issues of secure data across the country. i do think the government has the right to not declare a famine at this point in time. as i've mentioned been numbers are not there. simply though we are seeing a large number of people in, in very difficult and even in some parts of the country. what i would recommend and be in terms of as someone who works for the government and maybe which is hosting

an artist displacement and has one of the largest insecurity, is that we as a government and international partners who have already raised hundreds of millions of dollars to actually ramp up efforts and targeted target areas where there is i've tried a famine, the government, when the president took office back in may, appointed an envoy for humanitarian credit. that's happening across the country on successfully meeting lobby internationally and raised a lot of money for the international community to respond for manya to prevent them . and so i think the efforts of just having a blanket declaration of famine is futile. it's not necessary at this point that numbers are not there. but what we are encouraging is to really be more clear about

how the international community partnership with the government is going effectively prevent from family conditions materializing. we'll get to funding in a minute. i do want to dig into that as well that you've just there, that a decoration assignment would be futile. so let me throw that over to her area. i know a lot of people in both in aid agencies and the government are a wary of the so called f word because it does have very specific implications. what does a declaration of famine actually do? well, i mean, let me just put it this way. there is a committee that could look at this, they have the data now with their hands, and i my, my, i'm told that they will release that report either on monday or tuesday this week. so basically we will know whether we have passed that threshold or not on what that is, what that means. if the data is that the government cannot say much, they have to declare the firm and doesn't mean it's a lot. by the way, if

a government is not willing, not or not capable of protecting its people, it says a lot about it. so very me, so what, what, so not a government can do that each. the data is that if the committee concluded that there has been reached the threshold, it has to lead, it has to announce department and it has to read the process. and that actually would, it wouldn't boost image internationally. it wouldn't make them more responsible rather than just assisting on technicalities that show basically that's what they position when it comes to declaring or not the clarity i hope is a lot. if i don't, i mean, i do want to ask all of you about this because it was my understanding that new and agencies and the government together do have some leeway and some lassitude in terms of deciding whether or not to declare them and good. i know you've been

working on some well with ought to people who work on the found and review committees in your mind. how much scope does the government actually have to decide whether i wanted to clarify because there has to be some kind of political consensus to in the law. the day the somebody was held in behalf of the government within the honda of international community. and sometimes most of the date that not only the data that you collect on the ground, but it has to be time series analysis. and where a lot of thing has to be fucked that in on most of these information and data is in the hands of, of international actors late that they both. now the money did. and boswell is, if it's in a you, and they're using that data and that's not in the government. but how do you say that the government in the last 5 to 5 years of building on his capacity in terms of getting access to such a data and trying to understand how to make

a decision based on the available information? yes, i agree with the professor about it is the responsibility of the government to protect this population on such a crisis. but it is very unfortunate that people are not the dying of the crisis as early as may june, july, august. the date that accumulating thing is that all is not as long as it's not, it's not, it's not an accurate, it's not a bumble. if this is a process, it's not one event. it is a process. we have the see the government of the following, but the unfortunate part is that the, that we, the, that we, you know, the government is so law that it is getting more friends to political because here and there while people and yes, there are people who hold on i'm going to let you come in there to respond because we just had the president of speak and he describe what a risk of i'm,

i'm sorry we will come back to you because i want to give her on an opportunity to respond to what you've just said the, the president, describing this, written in some areas to declare famine. what, what does the actually mean by that? why do we know what, maybe our comments on the government's well to declare? i think the government is willing to do what it takes to take care of citizens are to be responsive to what's on the ground in terms of numbers and dates. we've had contention relationship with the us in terms of numbers and the number that i collected, somalia in recent years have been completed numbers. and this is the reason why the government, the government begins to strengthen our ability to actually functional, like a government and the business of declaring whether family or job back is being questioned masters of conduct. i think the international committee to resort to stating that the government is not willing or it's busy with political between i

think that's a full on narrative. that government is not neglecting its duties, but really being cautious around what this means. low turn at the moment. right. now the numbers are not there are, there are places in the country where yes, abuse, security is real and that we do need to respond. yes. but what does that mean? i'd be like his family needs to be declared. i don't think so. i think the support in the finance. my question is, why are we not seeing any response in the office of areas where we can actually target and improve conditions as far as what the speed of the president has is yes, that is the minute is why we need to continue advocating to increase resources and activities, sorry, that haven't come in this or that. that's not what the president said. the president said, declaring famine in specific areas was risky. and i think

a lot of people watching would assume that a declaration of famine means more attention and more aid. so what are the cons here? what's the downside government? which means that interferes with development and projected agenda for the next point in that doesn't mean that the government doesn't recognize it isn't regency. the president doesn't recognize that it is an entire envoy that has been at the request of international community appointed, massive money have been collected. why don't we not being more engaged on the ground and using the minds that are already been allocated rather than continuously looking to ramp up attention. but we're not actually meeting the demand. i think that's where the question i know you want to come in hand. and you haven't had a chance to speak recently. if you are a show you can, i just say quickly that when it comes to the f for the order,

that was the last of the governments in the region go like it. in fact, they have been pressuring an international community not to use it. and it's not just somalia, it starts are not going to be, it's others, they really don't like it, but it because of what he's gonna take some countries even like, i mean a government might or be crisis might happen. so that's one of the main reason is that governments don't like when we talk to somebody officially, they received 3 concerns. one was the data, they stating that there is still not reaching the other one was they might lose the coordination capacity of the whole area under 3rd one was that the money that is task for development might be reverted, or just the re routed to the relief so these were the concern is to express it to all of them, maybe with a data when a site are not founded, i think the government can be, could achieve in this area. bye bye,

bye bye bye. coming more for support, at least even if it's not declaring the fireman the president and need to still come out and he needed to shave the level of emergency here. the excess that's is way too many the, the put is to go to, to buy the given that is maureen, is not that just thought it might even complicate or even add to the death with diarrhea. and how that is done by that is in also i'm in the, a lot of the food is just sitting in the port additional on what the big president needed to do is to use this on this from forces on this to distribute the fruit. it's about 240 kilometers for additional where these cries are taking place. and by the way, just to go back to 1991, where the international community, particularly in the united states, have to send thousands of people to distribute food. so now it's really criminal in a sense to have so many people, so many troops and so many food available, just

a few 100 kilometers away are not being distributed timely. of course, that is our kind of so let's go to 2 problems. i think this is the leadership that the government and a lot of this is about reputation and perceptions of what the government is doing. so good had, let me ask you, you are sitting in mogadishu. how does the molly is on the street? there feel about that. is there a political consensus amongst the public that's that more needs to be done? well, i think the issue of the government now saying that if we declare, for example, that is also allocated for development that might be, might to be. and i said to humanity, i think when people are in crisis, the 1st thing that they don't will of those. and i really disagree with my colleagues that the, the 1st thing that the, or the other governments will of these maybe is stopping the development and saving

people's life. i think that is, that's one of the priority for whatever reason i'm going government. and the other thing is that yes, he was seen seeing that the people are dying because of their drought. the government is there, of course the challenges that is the security challenge bit of the challenge that is resource mobilization. challenge on all these challenges being there and people talk about what is happening that people are dying of hunger dying of past on. yes, the government is not capable of reaching it when it declares farming it is like reaching but it is calling for other people to come on us. now, the to think that the does not matter here is that the government but government capacity in terms of responding to the crisis, even if it is in popularity with international actions is limited for now. but if

you could get less funding, more resources, more human capital on the life will come in, in terms of responding to the crisis. now in the government say that we cannot declare time in, in pockets of the county, for example, that happened in 152011. that happened in 1992. now, why is it that when there was no government that happened and the respond about was made by this will monitor themselves, the international community, save the life. why is it that the now that we have affected government, it is now sitting on the division. i can't understand the hold on i think it is a good time to to bring you in here. look to hear a government, i'm sorry god hold on in 2011. i was just saying, man, obviously, literally a quarter of

a 1000000 people died in somalia and 2011. i was there myself watching it unfold. i was on the ground reporting. and i recall that actually when famine was declared, literally more than half of those deaths had already taken place. so my question to you is, is why way to do how to saying that there's an emergency situation that, that, that emergency relief needs to be prioritized over long term development. and you yourself have mentioned that there's enough resources there, but i understand that only what 43 percent of the humanitarian response plan for this year has actually been funded. i'm. i think i was here in 2011 when the federal declaration was going on. and i sought the the best and i guess that's been happening. luckily, this is not the case. now. i think there is a misrepresentation of the severity of where we are today. i think there needs to be more focus on preventative measures rather than focusing on technicalities. on

where the money is today. i mean, i am in the shop. i agree with him. when he says, why are we not distributing what we already have? nearly half a 1000000 people are extremely good in here. maybe about 10 and 20 kilometers from where i am within the borders. i think we need to have an honest conversation in terms of what the intentions are of the declaration of famine. i mean, obviously at the moment we don't meet the criteria, but i do have our colleagues who are pushing the declaration just to meet the international standards to actually increase in front off the back of somebody. i think that's not what the government, the government has done, what they need to do. there needs to be more work needs to be done and the president, maybe wrapping up the, the rhetoric on delivery ordination, releasing what's already there. i think there's a max city within the international community and how they're responding to this

crisis is a wait watching. wait. i phenomenon that's going on right now. and i think i will push it back to the international partners who are the largest purse in from our new company. might have a nice to start actually activating systems and releasing the funds that have been declared. the united states alone gave nearly a $1000000000.00 to somebody on demand, a terry and response. we're not seeing that level of response to the ground. so i needed to question our partners to growing back to the jobs the government in terms of the government the government is just funding. do we need to? obviously that's what i, the crisis are or, but i really do think we are sort of sites that the, the real issue, which is why are we not acting now in terms of responding to those increases? and i think i hope that everyone is calling for as much action as possible, and as soon as possible, i'm afraid we'll have to leave our discussion today there. thank you though to our

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