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into long length 1st is then carefully rolled up on to a tractor wrapped in mesh. and finally, the precious bundles a place carefully on the back of a truck to be moved to the stadium. the t me have the process so well rehearsed. they said a record for the fastest turf laying of a football pitch by completing it in just 6 hours and 4 to one minute. put just like the 1st middle east. well cup the grass, he is unique having to stand up to more boots and cold temperatures. over a shorter period with matches held over $29.00 days in just 8 stadiums with our design, new design of the stadiums. it's more compacted and higher. so we had the challenge that with this air conditioned the stadiums. so it's cooler than usual by generating a new, a kind of gus that can survive during the summer and the winter. and would the extensive a schedule of games we get an ot which species is gonna walk more for the water?
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it's not just tough that they're growing here at this nursery. there's also all of these trees. some of them have been saved from sites around cats are, while others have been donated by members of the community. this is the place that we saved all the trees from all on the door. some of the threats are very old, yet. that's more than 50 years old. actually for in some earlier or some threes. we know even how much we bought it or how much the person who did it for us or how much he paid for. so i remember one of the so that her, one of their guys, he was a kid, that is good. he donated like his grandfather 3 and he said like my grandfather, he bought it for tauriel in 1970 saw before me. this is like the legacy and the history of the of the, of the stadiums. an average mature tree absorbs $21.00 kilos of carbon dioxide a year. the equivalent of a 170 kilometer journey in a petro car. cat eyes planting more than $5000.00 and if then they'll absolve
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greenhouse gases and local pollution as they aim for carbon neutral event. as saying goes, the grass and the country will be greener. on the other side of the world cup. joanna raska al jazeera though ha, ah, it's good to have you with us. hello, adrian, for the going here and o haul. the headlines on al jazeera ukrainians are celebrating in the strategic southern city of cason after treat of russian forces president, florida. zalinski was hailed it as a historic day. the nova kirk cove crept derm in southern ukraine, though as reported to have suffered new and significant damage. the u. s. satellite imagery company says that sections of the darma, its gates, have been deliberately destroyed after russian russia pulled out of the castle region. i said bake report south from creevy, read in central ukraine. so far,
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the ukrainians said that they have taken 3000 square kilometers just in a day. now that is a significant amount of turkey considered. previously, i've been standing here telling you when the ukrainians have unanswered, they've taken 12 kilometers. so since the russians have withdrawn, it was a rocket advance by the ukrainians, and they seem to be welcomed by the residents of course, on the surrounding towns and villages. and ukraine has joined a summit of southeast asian leaders for the 1st time its foreign minister urged our sierra members to condemn brushes, invasion, and help protect ukraine's grand ship. but next inside story, what's going on in vladimir putin's mind right now? could this war go nuclear, this being on that trump team, the golden ticket to electro victory? can americans agree on any immigration policy? is there a middle ground between 0 tolerance and open border? the quizzical look us politics. the bottom line, france officially ends its operation back on the military mission and ask if the
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elevator it soldiers, fort armed groups in that area of 9 years. what's it achieved and what options are left now for maintaining regional security? this isn't tied story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm mr. z, a k. now franz is officially ending its largest overseas military mission operation back on was launched nearly 9 years ago in this a hell region in africa. its aim was to maintain regional security and to combat on 2 groups linked to iceland al qaeda. at its highest, about 5 and a half 1000 french soldiers operated alongside local armies and martinez. molly became a facet nisha and chat about the mission was criticized for failing to produce results and became very and populous. attacks increased in the kennesaw so and chad
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and french in european forces were pulled out of molly earlier this year when diplomatic relations salad after military cruise and 20202021. frances president announced the end of the operation while launching a national strategic review of the military is aims for the next decade. manual macro on says around 3000 french soldiers will remain in the held that in a different capacity. it should lift it, you bother me, don't, don't. our interventions must be better defined from the beginning when we do not intend to remain committed to external operations indefinitely. it's also for this reason that i decided in consultation with our partners, to formally announce the end of our pillars champion, come to day. a military support to the african nations of the region will continue . but according to the new principles that we have defined with them, well, let's take a closer look at how all of this developed in 2012 tory separatist took over large parts of northern molly al qaeda and i for linked 5 is also entered that region.
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then in january of the following year, france launched operation survival at the request of molly's government, sending troops to try to get rid of those groups. now, despite this, the groups remained active. in 20147 was succeeded by operation by come, its aim was to provide broader support to the g. 5, how member states. and then in 2020, the french lead to cuba task force of special forces launched. that joint unit was meant eventually replaced operation dot com. it suspended its operations earlier this year. ah, well, let's now bring it out. guess from doc. all we have is on have a just account. he's a hell a project director at international crisis group from paris near gali about your call. she's the chair of the african security sector network and from lagos, nigeria, to mecca as a, he's the executive director of the west african network. the piece building will welcome to you all and thank you for joining us on inside story today on have a,
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i'll start with you. i want to understand what the end of operation by can actually means in practical terms. because we know that the 3000 trips will remain on the ground. so is this really just a shift in terms of engagement here? well, actually, mean we general strategy to reach mostly money in there. you know, in a broad i've been leaving, you know, at the role regional or in the region and really at the center we are withdrawing from my company is region there region anymore. so why did yesterday it will be shut in region by
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region. take what we made on the ground. so there's a lot of friends. busy in money for small years and you let us in but still in the region where you are involved and trying to convey to the special niggley. i'm curious how much you believe as you are sitting in paris, this is driven by domestic french consideration center. there were french deaths as part of the mission, some $55.00 deaths, and this is obviously pause of a broader strategic military review. macro has tried to count this as more of a pivot back to europe, especially within the context of the war and ukraine doesn't go beyond that.
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no, in my view, it does no direct links wizard into now of political situation in france, where you know, a public opinion generally as not lot self interest in international fully see foreign affairs and military interventions. i don't think nicer is at it as any a links that with the current engagement engagement of france in you cren or even if it's true that to today friends, i've decided to review. it's a strategic position with a grill growing involvement in a so called conventional conflict. but no, in my view, does their retreat and these, and formal and offer open i soon back on his link to the very limited the
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success. and more importantly, to their rejection, and to their recent men that which has been growing increasingly among public opinions in a hail and more generically west african countries. more took rebecca, let me ask you than in the region. is this being regarded as a kind of tacit acknowledgements of the failures here? well, i think it depends on who provide indirect. they have the french government that might think they have a middle name box that would in the present have been present. molly, would i get the failure because if you came with the finish with the delay margie and by expansion, the region with don't would be how much of the position have taken place?
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and especially happening at the time that the, i guess the french government in, in monday and a crazy, you know, but i think also that is important, that we put all the stuff together. we include the fact that the french government might have taken the federal called bid on current russia. you could walk on the basis of the rule of the russia and how russia is also now become a new friend of the margins and given the government of booking. so all is important. so in taking that decision that i've taken by the french, i am sure the concentration were me. and again, the economic interest we between the 2 countries have reduced drastic 100. a lot of people are aware that some of the political economy of these crises is also something to do with the benefit, either from
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a french government to mighty or even from my did you find a government? well, as me, golly, was saying that we have seen this very dramatic escalation of anti french public sentiment. i want to listen to some of the reaction we heard in the j after microns announcement. let's take a listen. who's a one d months that we are fed in black and right, that we do not in the president of the friends, bob con force and yet because it's a force that's in the sense i have, it's a lot of the problem. it cannot be a solution and responsible for the problem. and we'll, we'll be sure having a new name in your permission in this house. it doesn't change anything for us. it's still the same soldiers who are there until now. we have not had convincing results. i didn't, i don't know normally when they left northern molly a part of these, but con elements came to nice. j j requested they're supposed to come in since then . some of these elements have been working together with local armed forces and
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they're doing a remarkable job on the ground. so we have some mixed reaction that don't have a do you feel that this is reflected that of public sentiment on the ground and why was so little achieved? yes, you did the reflecting wrong. the trends garden killing years. read. see, i don't the sentiment that we what we call the term or why you know, friends more. i said, i'm sorry, but i think in a nutshell,
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i've seen too much in the military and banks are and they were able to do things you know, 1st to really include other bars and i think that they never fed them said offers you friday all the safety, the reason i'm thinking, i think that is from the other actors involved and trying to stop and i've never managed to when balance trusted and by well my balance. i knew that many editors, military operation, profit there is always can 1st and they get all of our other objectives and what the, why don't we want them to kind
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of probably about the problem or the region and, and i think they always do, you know, very variation to the broader vision and the name of what is going by next week or so with chance. of course, there are lots of different complex drivers in that region. but let me bring in shemika here because i understand your organization as part of a civil society coalition that's really been calling for more coherent grass roots action and has also been very critical of prioritizing a military solution. so let me ask you, what would you like to see done differently? now? i think the 1st thing to do to picket force with all the military investments, all the investment have been made in not just money, but india. every joke. what kind of resource to we use the not time to begin, we vests in skills, aunt
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d and deborah to ask use of the citizens windy im, that we are dealing with human security. not just hard core security because this is what has happened over the years. he has been tunnel military. he has weakened the regional. it's was the cost. if less in the region you has, we can be africa, you know, if list on the, in the region and the house for that. we can this be coping mechanisms of the city . so why make such huge investment only just focusing on hardcore security when get a fundamental issues with dr. issues that need to be address, which is invested in the human beings in the citizens of the states. a lot of people feel that the economy of discovery, john is not dependent on 48 and people are no longer even confident in them. so to do anything. so we want to see a situation where there should be moral moral soft approach. security approach to
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these moral don, look more of investments in my computer so that people can have skills that cannot remove them from crime and begin to focus on likelihoods. okay, let me bring in the a got a head because as we've been saying, lots of different issues at play, this isn't just about religion or politics or resources and can you break it down for us? and what's driving recruitment in particular for some of these groups, sara, different can a factor of the what is very important to realize the fact that even if you need surely dose jihadi group, where coming from the broad, especially from the jerry they have changed. and there has been merchant more rooted in a local environment, no. the most important movement, b a i, c, 82 arcade,
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or to the eastern states are headed or compound, also local combatants. and they do have a lot. so 1st strong linkages with local communities and local networks. it is also important to look at to their trans national beauty team to shift from an area to another one. of course you can find and then there are economy credence i have region is one of the poorest in the words. but you also do have id, logical matter of darren. what is important is not to consider all those groups only as a violent extremist. it is also important to look into take into consideration
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their political agenda, because there are also definitely political actors even if it is much more easy to identify political claims from c d t groups arises and to dos which are as he need to the side, the states will, speaking of political agendas, just taking a step back, it does seem that the kremlin, for instance, is very eager to step into the space that's been left by the french. we certainly saw that, obviously, in molly, after the french pulled out on have a, can i ask you, what are the, what kind of a difference has that made to be, you know, that when the french richardson for many shuttles teachers you know, and thinking that when we decide this is not that i think there might be
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to be mercenaries where it prevents organized ways in the beginning of the year. but they remain extra for my tuition is getting better because i'm just threatening the french lead to the expected situation for me and interesting that there was a sort of you know, between the french and derision in both cases. it was mattie
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very answer. the fact that we're going to, if you are, i don't believe that the russia succeed was in french. you know, way there is no real will be very answer on the prism answer can be right. well, we were russian flags. i recall being waved around during the crew and became a foster not only by protest as but also by soldiers and then an engineer we will say, so it's protested waiving russian flags just a few months ago. there's been speculation about misinformation, campaigns by moscow to clinic. i'm curious. do you feel that to people on the ground, particularly in rural communities, all the russians viewed differently from the french? i mean, ultimately this is as one of a was alluding to that this is still just men with guns. i think is it carroll 6 wish him you remember your key cheer about the denver line knows better than the
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engine light on it. so easy, because the question, if you go to some of the biggest in this are hell, the question we are actually including just isn't, sees this relationship with the french. what has it fetched us? you know, to the extent that postcolonial period, iowa currency, our economies did not mean by what the leasing party. so just asking those questions on the agenda with, just to be very honest. however, we do not even know the details of the new fresh. you've been quoted with it with russia, so that is even a major problem. i'd be more, these external factors, fortunately, was deep piece unsecured architecture in not just is a heavy job, but also in the west africa. john, the more and more di, security, the entire coping mechanisms on his zillions august citizens. and he's, it's cindy. so her region will continue to be lacking in confidence and the ability to stand on the slope. so now you are in a critical question. so what happens post
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d, the french or government or bruises? what happens? the d, my, an army for example, does not have the wherewithal to now step in because dated law investment, deliberate investment in them to step in both disintegration. so that's a huge problem. well, we do now have the military and charge in both molly and became a foster. i'm wondering how much french military failures here actually contributed to regime change all the sentiments for that to actually take place. and now got a do you think that it did and could we potentially see more in chattanooga for instance, i think you hear it is very important to make a difference between the different countries. for sure. what happened in chad after the death of mary shallow? it has to be no. i've been with the french position, which immensely recognized the military committee headed by the
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son of the late leader as being a factor which was a contributed to institutionalize and digital mize. a military power in shut in values that's completely different. i think that's a prominent in that friends i've come to the overlooked governance problem, both in burke enough and in my lee. in fact, the focus, my colleagues as the stress on the only the military approach to the marion or brook cannot be crisis eyes that prevented friends to look at the big, big problems in terms of governments and all of governance and wayne, which elected leaders the big guy in my li, or in the, in the book enough i saw have been growingly rejecting by their own to be continued
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. and in fact, it is. the result is the reason why there has been overthrown by a military genta and their friends, especially in my lead. i've been trying to have a 1000000 needed to reinforce our to be all to themself and to be replaced by new to leaders. but he did not have a pen because it's very difficult, was such a double standard fully seized with such a position in shad and another one in my lee and in the later extended working fs. won't let take a look now. they're at what's next. i know there's a huge amount of uncertainty, as we've all alluded to, but there are, as you said earlier on have a, there are a number of soldiers on the ground. something like what? $14000.00 un peacekeepers still there. we have the g 5 forces from new dad, the kena, martini chad. molly's pulled out so i'm not convinced of how successful the g 5
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forces are going forward. i'm curious about your thoughts, but we have had from joseph burrell, the e. u foreign policy chief. he says the terror threat is expanding and he's calling for a collective response which, which all 3 of you seem to be calling for sir, is that 2 things on ebay? the space for political dialogue here is that the political will for piece talks, perhaps a fresh iteration in the sense that the strategies gyla haley tell you a way that's unfortunate because i think that's my 2 years ago why one of the 1st country said stroking i don't we are right?
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no, i don't think that if you look at the very attrition there say yeah, that gauge in those we jazz is not necessarily the leaders are reckon find these are interpreted every vendors and got a way to really to raise some commanders and to share. so i think that we are right now and i'm sure you're right now, but we are a lot really care. and of course, as this continues,
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civilians continue to pay the price for the ongoing complex. thank you, though for joining our discussion today. thank you to all of august john of the kell near golf bugger, yoko and shook america as a and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again anytime by visiting our website that's out there or dot com. and for further discussion and you go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. remember, you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at 8 inside story for me and associates. hey, i'm hoping here in the al jazeera sets the stage. ok, now as the moment i took my chest off and i go in the field voices from different corners. welcome to then can you eat any that? i mean community, everybody does international filmmakers and weld cause journalists,
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