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region. it soldiers, fort armed groups in that area of 9 years. what's it achieved and what options are left now for maintaining regional security? this isn't side story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i missed audio tape. now france is officially ending its largest overseas military mission operation back on was launched nearly 9 years ago in this the hell region in africa. its aim was to maintain regional security and to combat armed groups linked to iceland al qaeda at its highest, about 5 and a half 1000 french soldiers operated alongside local armies and martini molly became a facet newswire and chat about the mission was criticized for failing to produce results and became very unpopular attacks increased in beginner faster,
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and chad and french and european forces were pulled out of molly earlier this year when diplomatic relations salad after military cruise in 20202021. frances president announced the end of the operation while launching a national strategic review of the military is aims for the next decade. manual micron says around 3000 french soldiers will remain in the held that in a different capacity. it will should last it new botany. don't, don't, our interventions must be better defined from the beginning when we do not intend to remain committed to external operations indefinitely. it's also for this reason that i decided, in consultation with our partners, to formally announce the end of the last jump account. today, a military support to the african nations of the retail will continue. but according to the new principles that we have defined with them. well, let's take a closer look at how all of this developed in 2012 tory separatist took over large parts of northern molly al qaeda and i for linked fife is also entered that region
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. then in january of the following year, france launched operation survival at the request of molly's government, sending troops to try to get rid of those groups. now, despite this, the armed groups remained active in 2014, so of all was succeeded by operation by come, its aim was to provide broader support to the g. 5 to help member states. and then in 2020, the french lead to cuba task force of special forces that launched that joint unit was meant eventually replaced operation dot com. it suspended its operations earlier this year. the, i will, it's now bringing out guests from dock. all we have is on have a jazz account. he's as the hell a project director at international crisis group from paris near got about your call. she's the chair of the african security sector network and from lagos, nigeria, to mecca as a, he's the executive director of the west african network for peace building. i will welcome to you all and thank you for joining us on inside story today. on have a,
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i'll start with you. i want to understand what the end of operation about can actually means in practical terms, because we know that the 3000 trips will remain on the ground. so is this really just a shift in terms of engagement here? well, actually mean we general strategy to reach a policy money. so share knowing from i've been leaving, you know, at the role regional or in the region. and really at the center we are withdrawing from my company is region there region anymore. so why? and that will be shut in region by region
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take what we made on the ground. so there's a lot of friends. busy in money for years and you left for the mission but still in the region where you are involved and trying to convey to the expansion of near golly, i'm curious how much you believe as you're sitting in paris, this is driven by domestic french consideration center. there were french deaths as part of the mission, some $55.00 deaths, and this is obviously pause of a broader strategic military review. macro has tried to count. this is more of a pivot back to europe, especially within the context of the war. and ukraine doesn't go beyond that
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know, in my view, it does no direct links, wizard, internal political situation in france, where you know, a public opinion generally as not lot self interest in international, fully see foreign affairs and military interventions. i don't think nicer is it as any a links that with the current engagement engagement of france in you cren or even if it's true that to today friends, i've decided to review. it's a strategic position with a grill growing involvement in a so called conventional conflict. but no, in my view, does their retreat. and these and formal and offer obaskey back on his
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link to the very limited the success and more importantly to their rejection and to their resentment which has been growing increasingly among pubic opinions in a, as a hell and more generically west african countries. what took omeka, let me ask you then in the region, is this being regarded as a kind of tacit acknowledgements of the failures here? well, i think it depends on who you provide indirect. they have, if you are the french government, that might think they have a middle name box that would in the prison have been present. molly would argue that because if you came with the finish on a delay, margie and by expansion, the region with don't would be how much of this that have taken place. and
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especially happening at the time that the, i guess the french government in, in miley and i have been increasing, you know, but i think also that is important, that we put all the stuff together. we include the fact that the french got made my ticket. that's all based on current, russia, you on the baby thought the rule of the russia and how russia is also now become in the new friend of the margin. and given the, the, the government of booking. so all is important. so in taking that decision that i've taken by the french, i am sure the concentration were me. and again, the economic interest we between the 2 countries have reduced drastic 100. a lot of people are aware that some of the political economy of these crises is also something to do with the benefit of it,
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from the french government to mighty or even from your friends government. well, as nicola was saying that we have seen this very dramatic escalation of anti french public sentiment, i want to listen to some of the reaction we heard in the j after microns announcement. let's take a listen. who's a one d months were fed in black and right, that would not be the president of the friends, bob con force. and yet, because it's a force that's in the sense i have, it's the root of the problem. it cannot be a solution and responsible for the problem. it's been some of our and we will know you will or better. sure. having a new name in your creation in the so how it doesn't change anything for us. it's still the same soldiers who are there until now. we have not had convincing results . i didn't look pies and kitty lu, normally when they left northern molly a part of these, but con elements came to ne j since these year requested their support to come in. since then,
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some of these elements had been working together with local armed forces and they're doing a remarkable job on the ground heat in. so we have some mixed reaction. there is on have a do you feel that this is reflective that of public sentiment on the ground and why was so little achieved? yes. yes, you did you the reflecting wrong? the trends, garland killing years. read. see, i don't the sentiment that we what we call the term or why you know more. i said, i'm sorry, but i think in a nutshell, i've seen too much in the military banks or,
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and they were able to do things you know, 1st to really enjoy the other bar. and i think that they never fed them offers you finding all the safety reasons i'm thinking i think that is from the other actors involved and trying to stop. and i've never managed to when balance strategy. and by when i knew that many editors, military operation profit, there is always can 1st and they get all of our other objectives and what the, why don't we want them to kind
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of follow the regions and, and i think they always do, you know, will be very variation to be brought our mission and my a week or by next week or so with the chance. of course there are lots of different complex drivers in that region. but let me bring in shemika here because i understand your organization as part of a civil society coalition that's really been calling for more coherent grass roots action and has also been very critical of prioritizing a military solution. so let me ask you, what would you like to see done differently? now? i think the 1st thing to do is to pick of course, which all the military investments, all the investment have been made in, not just money, but india. every joke. what kind of results do we have is the not time to begin to invest in skills and
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d and to produce cues off the citizens windy im, that we are dealing with human security. not just hard core security because this is what has happened over the years. yes. the tunnel military, the us we can be reached or not. it's was the cost. if less in the region you has, we can be africa, you know, if list on the, in the region and the house for that. we can this be coping mechanisms of the city . so why make such huge investment only just focusing on hardcore security when get a fundamental issues with dr. issues that need to be address, which is invested in the human beings in the citizens of the states. a lot of people feel that the economy of decided re, john, is not dependent on foreign aid and people are no longer even confident in themselves to do anything. so we want to see a situation where there should be moral moral soft approach. security approach to
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these moral don, look more of investments in my computer so that people can have skills that cannot remove them from crime and begin to focus on likelihoods. okay, let me bring in the a got a head because as we've been saying, lots of different issues at play, this isn't just about religion or politics or resources and can you break it down for us? and what's driving recruitment in particular for some of these groups, sara, different can a factor of the what is very important to realize the fact that even if you need surely dose g harvey group where coming from the broad especially from the gerry a. they have changed and there has been nurture and more route to in a local environment. know the most important movement. b, a, i, c,
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t, to arcade, or to the status are headed or a compound also local combatants. and they do have a lot self 1st strong linkages with local communities and local networks. it is also important to look at to their trans national b, t to shift from an area to another one. of course you can find and then there are a come to me crazy i have region is one of the poorest in the words that you also do have id, logical matter of the idea. and what is important is not to consider. all of those groups only as a violent extremist. it is also important to look into take into consideration
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their political agenda, because there are also different between political actors, even if it is much more easy to identify political claims from c t groups rather than to dos which are, as you need to this, i mean states will, speaking of political agendas, just taking a step back, it does seem that the kremlin, for instance, is very eager to step into the space that's been left by the french. we certainly will that, obviously in molly, after the french pulled out on have a, can i ask you, what are the, what kind of a difference has that made to me when the french retreated for me, for money. so teachers, problems, you know, thinking that, that way we decide this is not that i think we ought to
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be mercenary, were present organized ways in the beginning of the year. but they remain externally digits are getting better because i just think the french lead to the expected situation for me and interesting that there was a sort of you know, between the french derision in both cases,
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maddie is very answer to the fact that we're going to if you are, i don't believe that that the russia do succeed, weapon french, you know, way there is no real will be very answer on the prism answer can be right. well, we were russian flags i recall being waved around during the crew and became a foster not only by protest as but also by soldiers and then an engineer. we also saw some protest waiving russian flags just a few months ago. there's been speculation about misinformation, campaigns by moscow to clinic. i'm curious. do you feel that to people on the ground, particularly in rural communities, all the russians viewed differently from the french? i mean, ultimately this is as one of a was alluding to that this is still just men with guns. i think is it carol sits wishing you remember your creature about the denver line?
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knows better than the engine light on. oh, it's so easy because the question, if you go to some of the biggest in this are hell, the question we are actually including just isn't, sees this relationship with the french. what has it fetched us? you know, to the extent that postcolonial period i was calling to see our economy see, did i mean by what the leasing party. so yeah, asking those questions on the agenda with just to be very honest. however, we do not even know the details of the new fresh. you've been quoted with it with russia. so that is even that mitchell problem and be more the 6 on of course want you to his dps. unsecured architecture in not just is a heavy job, but also in the west africa. john, the more and more di, security, the entire coping mechanisms on his zillions august citizens. and he's, it's cindy. so her region will continue to be lacking in confidence and the ability to stand on the slope. so now you are in a critical question. so what happens post
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d, the french or government or prisoners, what happens? the d, my an army for example, does not have the wherewithal to now stepping because dated, lawyer investment, deliberate investment in them to step in both different publisher. so that's a huge problem. well, we do now have the military and charge in both molly and became a foster. i'm wondering how much french military failures here actually contributed to regime change all the sentiments for that to actually take place. and now got a do you think that it did and could we potentially see more in chattanooga for instance, i think you hear it is very important to make a difference between the different countries. for sure. what happened in chad after the death of mary shallow? it has to be no. i've been with the french position, which immensely recognized the military committee headed by the
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son of the late leader as been a factor which was contributed to institutionalize. and as you might a military power in shut in values, that's completely different. so i think that's a prominent in that friends i've come to the overlooked governance problem, both in burke enough and in my lee. in fact, the focus, my colleagues as the stress on the only the military approach to the marion or brook cannot be a crisis. eyes that prevented friends to look at the big, big problems in terms of governments and all of governance and wayne, which elected leaders. the big guy in my li, or a couple here in the, in the book enough i saw have been growingly rejecting by their own to be continued
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. and in fact, it is, the result is the reason why there has been overthrown by a military gender and their friends, especially in my lead. i've been trying to have a 1000000 immediately forward to be all to themselves and to be replaced by new to leaders. but he did not have a pen because it's very difficult, was such a double standard fully seized with such a position in shad and another one in my lee and in the later extended working officer won't let take a look now either at what's next. i know there's a huge amount of uncertainty, as we've all alluded to, but there are, as you said earlier, don't have a, there are a number of soldiers on the ground. something like what? 14000 un peacekeepers fill the. we have the g 5 forces from new jersey keianna, martini chad. molly pulled out so i'm not convinced of how successful the g 5
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forces are going forward. i'm curious about your thoughts, but we have heard from joseph burrell, the you foreign policy chief. he says the terror threat is expanding and he's calling for a collective response which, which all 3 of you seem to be calling for the or is that? do things don't have a, the space for political dialogue yet, is that the political will for peace talks perhaps? well, read the different countries right now, like i said, produce the strong maddie class in the fact that the strategy any way that's unfortunate because i think that's my 2 years ago. was one of the 1st say that i don't
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we are right. no, i think that if you look at a very different tricia there said yeah, gauge in those we've jazz is not necessarily the leaders reckon find these are interpreted every vendors and we've got ways to raise some commanders and to share. so i think that we are right now and. 5 surely i know, but we really care and of course as this continues,
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