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good savvy with us. hello, adrian, sitting here in doha, the headlines on al jazeera, the democratic party, has retained control of the u. s. senate catherine cortez musto naturally defeated . her republican challenger, adam lock salt in the father, control of the house of representatives though, is still undecided. i tell you what, congratulations the senator schumer, he's got a majority again. we're focusing now on, on georgia. feel good about where we are. and i know i'm a cockeyed optimist. i understand it really, but i'm not surprised by the turn out. i am incredibly please and i think it's a reflection of quality of our candidates in the they're all running on the same program when anybody who wouldn't run in on what we did here all stated was this is vicky with and so i feel good, i'm looking forward to there couple years, the congolese army and rebels are battling for control of the town of cable by
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north kiva province. that's 25 kilometers from the regional capital goma. israel's president has given benjamin netanyahu the mandate to form a government. the former prime minister made a comeback in a general election earlier this month. fuel station, the sup reopened in haiti, ultra coalition of gangs lifted its blockade. the country was brought to a standstill when the g 9 group took control of a fuel terminal. in september. others were headlines. these continues here on al jazeera, after inside story coming up next. ah,
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ukraine celebrates were taking her san is one of the most significant victories is by saying, bade it is as a turning point in the war and how vital changed. there are 2 strategies on both sides. this is inside story. ah, hello, welcome to the program. i'm hashem, alibaba. russia has put out of the only major city it captured in nearly 9 months of war in ukraine. hassan fell in early march a week after the invasion began, but ukrainian forces have made rapid advances in the last few weeks. ah, people in the city cheered and raise the ukrainian flag on public buildings. president vladimir putin, formerly annex the region in september, in
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a mood condemned internationally. a spokesman insists the kremlin would still recognize hassan as part of russia, but ukraine's president says the region is back in ukrainian hands, calling it a historic day. mr. harrison teacher, gar hassan residents have been waiting. they've never given up an ukraine. of hope for ukraine is always justified, and ukraine always returns its own jap quarter grandma. i want to make a special mention of those russians soldiers of mercenaries and collaborators who were abandoned hassan and other cities of the south. the only chance of being saved is to surrendered ukrainian captivity. we guarantee that you will be treated in accordance with the law and international standards. russia call the pullout, a redeployment videos showed bridges leading out of the city, destroyed moscow says 30000 soldiers and 5000 pieces of military equipment have
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been moved to the east of the nipple river. ukrainian leaders believe russian troops left behind land mines and bald house on could come under russian shelling. ah, now lets bring in our guess in our day sir. hannah celeste, the security studies program director with the cranium prism, wasik rainy and fire policy and security. think tank. it must cor paval thing and how're an independent defense and military analyst and the communists in london. the metella sagamore. so senior latter insecurity and development at kings college, london, and specialist in boston, falling and security policy. welcome to the program. hannah, how significant is the backups shuttle? i have sworn by the ukranian army. there are 2 elements that we need to know the birth is procedure. that is definitely important because that is part of the
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coolest and very success to premier to that is important on the south from all perspectives. and especially the graham person lived further. but it is also june, the important psychological a because our birth will let it was the only be seated on your regional sense of the russians managed to capture since the beginning of the wave of invasion. but also because we got some great new and sad that he was watching tv part of the washing keith story. it is russian and fire r o the propaganda that referred to in the last 9 months. and that's why now, the interesting to all the roches social networks called the locals are starting to question if we've been defending the russian population there, why the making ukrainian, our course of all this happened isn't flat. so we think that the logically will be important both for the ukranian as it is important to the great people, but also as the leverage against the russian propaganda inside rush. pavel,
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what has been described as a major victory by the cranium has been somehow characterized by the bushes as a tactical withdrawal. but i think the general consensus of this is a major setback for the political establishment in moscow. oh, well, the moon makes miller direct military sense and but a political yes that there's a disaster public relations disaster and signed russia. and also it has high strategic meaning, because by abandoning this bridge head on the right bank, some of the net pro river. russia has clearly abandoned the idea that was in the beginning of this whole campaign to move further south and west to take nikolai besta reached the master republic. great boy
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rogue kind of take over the south of ukraine. the, with the more predominant russian speaking roy region and the cut ukraine away from the sea in tire. so back green has been abandoned. the russian forces are retreating or yes, regrouping. they're not that they're direct. we've pushed out, but they are retreating by under orders. and in the more or less organized manner. but still this is a strategic defeat and this is an internal and to some extent, external political disaster. the matina, are we likely to see model vague with set of strategies or more escalation in the conflict? i think that rick unexpected, that maybe there is more intense fighting on other firms. we have seen that there is not a very, very dense bardeen going on around. the city is very much sort of on the stage,
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your grading as fighting very intensely there over the last few weeks they've renewed, suffered many casualties. but they've managed to sort of hold on russia like decide to hit harder in the region of the front. but don't buy that, so i think that we cannot think that this is now over, but i think at the same time that might be some pressures to, to see if russia i'm sort of ensure fire as secure as it's conquests, which it already has. so i wouldn't be surprised behind the scenes to seek russia and secure the region bit already can close, but i would expect an increasing fighting on other from 100, emboldened by what happened on the ground, korean president for that and sky vote of the 5. we can t until the end. do you think that he has all it takes now to continue the push but or the ultimately of
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a consideration will have to be taken before he moved forwards. ah, 1st of all, what you need to move forward, that is the all wheel and readiness. your armed forces and here you definitely have the willingness. ah yes, there are tired. nurse yesterday's understanding of the difficult condition during the winter. but at the same time, we understand that cease fire will play into the hands of the russian federation, but in your playing it has because that will allow russians to train the newly mobilized or to restore some of the ammunition stockpiles of being destroyed, either by the rainy on or by north korea will produce in russia. that is dangerous for sure. so nobody is relaxing. i'll what can be the constraints and keys ukraine has a last. so supply of the emission from our partners definitely that it's can slow down a little bit. but that's also depends on the type of warfare. i'll google you're witnessing further as well. now we unsound that not only by mood,
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turbo vision or tele, just pro, is one of the mayor of it. but definitely me, it's all file and the america that where it is asian nuclear station. and what is interesting that on the one hand russian interest, i'd shelly, i'm now in the need of the air raids even in odessa, but at the same time in millions, hopefully we see how dayton's and supplied withdraw will smooth it out. good. so the also few barry unsafe as the occupied territories, pavel after the russian military pulled out from cave and hawk if the only provincial regional cup till under the control was a was her son. and then just few weeks ago, blue president let him put in, announced their next ation of the full region. the hans donnie as cousin ann's approved year. now the last house on could this be an indication that there is something terribly bold with the way the russian military establishment has been thinking about this whole ministry enterprise i well,
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this campaign has gone very wrong for russia, that's obvious when they're stood very much in moscow and dana has been well pushing around the buck happening because not a military establishment now sends out well some this to those people who they trust that they were always against this campaign that it was pressed on them from the ground. there were other like we go, i bought rushes, the secretary of the security council, mr. birth nicole from b f as b security agency. they were pressing for this entire campaign. the metro are reluctant and because it's clear, the things are gone wrong. and right now, russia who you will once fired, that's what the russian foreign minister is saying. that's why russian diplomats, the cram, was indicating a cease fire alarm. ready fire ah,
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the fire base basically russia would want on the status quo. who holds one more west? that's the one of control, a new kind of minutes. because russia needs a pause. and because your brain has quite a number of advantages, and it will, they will be pressing forward their offensive, especially in the winter comes, and the frost freezes, the dirt to right now covering the entire region. and there's very with good roads there. it's all with when the frost comes to move again through fields and through dirt, roads. and there could be a big rock creek in the fences and russians are being right now. the defense winds in their rear in crimea, in anticipation and gathering reserves, moving out of your song to have reserves for a possible,
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a ukrainian decisive offenses and only tele, when the russian presidential spokesperson pasco says that nothing has changed responses. the russians are concerned in the sense that i have so remains part of the countries this more just of an attempt to contain the crisis that has her happened to all that. the russians remain adamant about the need to maintain the game they have made in the past. i think that randy bradley the most challenging now for the football game that goes, it's very difficult for the russian public to sort of accept that these areas that what we're seeing russia, you know, i have to be accepted or lost. so when i was listening to sort of tv programs yesterday was clear that a lot of the common korea, all sort of data tv, ron channels, you know, commentators where we're hoping that this was just that temporary retreat. and the sooner or later they would take back these areas. so i think it's going to be very
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challenging for the population. dark fact that these areas are gone for good. and i think that there's going to be a lot of work that we have to be done from the leadership to explain that maybe this will have to be on the phone for a very long time. i think that there are different ripped population, especially those who aren't in charge of sort of of, of building opinions inside russia that this is really a rush directory. and i think that, you know, the voices that pulled up the challenge they have have, are finding it very difficult. many have left. so there isn't really a very open discussion. and those who really are, are sort of challenging their position or even more assertive in terms of wanting russia to, to win this war and to continue the fight. so my impression is that there is a perception that maybe russia now needs to regroup, forces was made from john, then re attack again in the spring. that one of the tactics studies also being promoted is this id of sort of bombing
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a ukraine to complete black out from the point of view of the center energy capability, electricity guys. so that it is in a position where it's economic kind of functions. people cannot be properly, so this massive bombardment, jo, demoralizing, some way that you bring us. but these, as we know, hasn't had any effect. so i think we can also expect these kind of approaches, you know, to show that, you know, we're not giving up with mind. hannah is the next logical destination of the conflict. going to be centered around that per year or the way it was mid. it's open so radically yes, that one of you, we found that now you the importance to divide washington when the eastern northern eastern direction. because that's also the question of the supply to some of the courses the, to the partial does toil of the cranium breach. it is more and more difficult to
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supply the course on the south feel it is happening, but that's also will be found on many other issues including the weather because ukrainian territory still big. the weather has very different from the, to the south, from the, almost up tropic out to the snow over. so that's why that will include the of the back on the wrong, but also the rushing, the 2nd a lot where the general we're on the ground with decisions they're going to made out what type of their jewelry they are using. and the all we're going to tell us that about our own construct, you're trying to make the black house. that's the tactic. that is definitely the fact that the russian side were the max. we see the pure, they realized that the you'll have an advantage compared to us, but as soon as it is on the ground, that's really interesting how these would be happening on the left. that's much of,
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i mean, you should including helicopters. so that's what is difficult to present as an organized global territory. we still have plenty of soldiers, just changed to the land and you're the founder of more of the future we ascending to public. it's also bring to sort of panic among the forces because they don't understand what is the reason why it was commanders of once you from them. and that's also the logical thing. you don't have to know all poverty you earlier talking about the bus admitted to his strategy now after the loss of class. so are we likely to see them putting more emphasis on our own on gaining places like savannah over the north eastern of ukraine all moving all the way towards on the escrow region to try to consolidate gains in baltimore and probably fca. well, what is under c share? a attacks on bar read by the chair where com. brogdan
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now are mercenary group. i will they take the city or not? again, that's an open question, but this is a very tactical move to improve the positions. because right now, in the time of the russ fujitsu, that's the see of mug. you can fight. but maneuverable swift, offensive, or very much hampered by the way that will change soon. and then the winter campaign, which in the west military is tend to go to winter quarters in the winter, but not here, not in russia. you're great. there's going to be a decisive military campaign. both sides will be trying to achieve the size of results. russian strategy right now, my pathway is to stop ukrainian offensive include in the quick heavy casualties and
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for steve graham and its backers and the list to go for our for want ceasefire. because right now victory as it was envisaged. last february is the query unachievable for that's understood in moscow. so that right now the russia would want a pause in the finding to regroup, really do re on to prepare for the future. ok, and ukraine does not want to do that. of course. all right, donna taylor, now when you have the or term with all the problems that come along with, with, with the whether you have the raise, you have the muddy ground and you have both parties losing each about a 100000 casualties. since the thought of the conflict, could this be the moment for both parties to consider the need to start political talks? i think this is not going to happen because i think that, you know, from the ukrainian perspective, it doesn't make much sense now to sort of negotiate the fire when they are in
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a position of strength. they are gaining momentum. they are receiving additional equipment. they've got to have, you know, because they haven't gotten hit. so they deep into the territory of that is ok find by russia, which is forcing russia to more some of it's sort of control centers for the south . they have been very strong around. they are be received by the population, i say here. so this will really sort of, i am bold and even more, you know, that your grant and leadership to continue with these come on to do. you're not to see if they can make sure that they gain additional territory because this also this them the support externally. you know, the more they win, the more they can show to that western partners that the military support they're getting to know how to provide the results. and, you know, i think the underlying question of the problem with the ocean is that there is a very strong lack of trust. you know, i think that does a yankee, you know,
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for very obvious reasons we doesn't trust will shaking partly on the other side on the russians, as was mentioned by barbara le, very eager to negotiate. but i think that everyone knows that basically be just as he's fire, preparation for future fighting, not just sort of definitive agreement for the future. so the only things that one hope that oceans would need to re withdrawn on these areas that are okay by, by russia. but i really don't see. okay, working, you know, going on long back 9 because already that also on he's causing so much, you know, term only internally margin if he had to withdraw from a lot more territory. so i'm not very optimistic about any kind of negotiation. it seems obvious that now with the for ya, in ukraine, people don't want this to settle into some sort of military stalemate. they want to continue the offensive, but they know that to do that, they need more weapons. but with the administration,
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the biden administration divided about how to move forward with key members of the ministry establishment. and it's about time to start political talks. do you think that this is something that could determine the next step of the korean president? you know, 1st of all, i can't say that either for a or a for one day celebrating the ration of your people lot in general the for a very constrained you just people realize sounds, what are the cost of these big stories and what can be the consequences, and that's what you really feel among the titian and the mom god society. but in terms of the weapons supply, we just received additional from those just yesterday to the fact it's been and now not only the us because you are the one country, that is why there are other countries and more conscious joining the next week. we'll have the new ranch time meeting, got into additional support for your grades. we are changing the priority for what we need now is some for the system,
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for example. so that is the ongoing process and i will be through on the ball, make some countries look differently what to supply to not only victory, but also how we use these weapons effectively. and that we are not detecting the russian territory, but only the boy 18 we're defending ours. and regarding the initiation it was about pushing or not pushing you last, remember that in march, you bring the legation had been present to the previous of the she ation 1st and feel it was back in the tunnel and. 8 at that time law i, they were just intern agents from the russian side. what is interesting that up to 9 months old. oh, slow says wrong key. even hard for me, every tory changing it is becoming even more violence against ukrainian. so that is why the truck but also just the ration all the voted to why we have to do for the chaise or just the listen. russians like in the need to cranium naisha,
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they just don't have any nonsense because the washing position didn't change. pavel, if the 2 parties asked to meet in the future to start negotiations, give us a sense of where to the buttons stand as we speak, what would be the vent line for them? and what would be the consensus as far as the, are concerned to turn the chops out of what happened in ukraine. mo, officially, russia has says that these, these are already parts of russia. they've been reunited. the done boss of parachia has your san marcos, likely that will not change a tow earliest. well, the same bread, there's the same regime in moscow. i think the kind of nuances, if, if we're talking about the ceasefire, well, green does not recognize crimea as russian and no one else does
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a. so in a rush you would say ok, you don't recognize this, but we hold it. but we know, you know, we recognize your song as russia, but you don't and we don't hold it. so there could be a quid pro quo. a air is a kind of agreements past that the agreements of who holds wife for the time b, because a peace agreement, the nacho piece per okay. peace agreement. i was on untenable, but the cease fire of sorts can appear. da, metella very shortly. if you don't mind, do you think diplomacy still stands a chance? i'm not very optimistic, as i said, for the reasons i don't was so highlighted by the previous speakers. so i don't think that this is the moment, but i always think it's very important to keep the lines of communication open to avoid. and you know, massey explanation. we know that russia says nuclear white,
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but understand that what is the use of tactic and you know, so i think it was important to sort of discuss certain sort of brake lines. i make it clear what is unacceptable for example to the west. but i think that you know that chances of success at the moment, i'm not very nice to wait till a cycle are so puzzled to get holla, charlotte, so i really appreciate you this. i think you are looking forward to talking to you in the future and thank you for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, i'll just 0 dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash a jane sized laurie. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle a jane size sorted from the house and the entire team here in doll. bye for know. ah
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