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explosion in eastern poland, which ukraine is blaming on russian missiles. 2 people were killed in the blasts in a village near the ukrainian border. moscow denies carrying out strikes on the area . international reaction has been cautious. many e u members have voiced alarm and solidarity with poland. lithuania and estonia, saying every inch of nato territory must be defended. mike hannah's in washington with reaction from the us. they'll make it very clear that they are not fully aware of all the details of what has happened. they are further investigating. they are speaking to that polish counterparts in terms of finding out exactly what's happening. but the us position appears to be clear at this point, to remain calm, to remain cautious not to get ahead of themselves. the common message from all departments has been let us wait and see exactly what happened. and then we can start discussing what to do next. it came on the same day. russia launched one of
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its biggest thumb barred mints of ukraine since its invasion in february missiles hit targets across the country, killing at least one person and causing widespread blackouts. former us president donald trump is expected to announce whether he will launch a 3rd run for the white house. he was on the campaign trail during the midterm elections rallying for hard right republican candidates. but most of those he backed and key races fail to get elected. the conflict between the democratic republic of congo is military, and the im, 23 fighters is moving closer to the regional capital of north kiva province goma. thousands of people to fled their homes. you in troops are patrolling the streets. the m $23.00 fighters are widely understood to be backed by wanda allegation and allegation the wanton government denies it. the o. p as prime minister obey ahem. had promised to implement the ceasefire deal signed between the government and rebels. earlier this month, the truce aims to in 2 years of conflict that has devastated the tig wry region.
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the international committee of the red cross as to trucks carrying medical supplies have arrived into gripe. israeli forces in the occupied west bank say 3 israelis had been killed in an attack. a palestinian man accused of the attack has been shot dead. those are the headlines. the news continues here on out 0 after inside story . thanks for watch. ah. world leaders are in barley for the g 20 summit. they have a lot on their agenda, including the global food and energy crisis and the warning ukraine. what are they likely to find a unified solution?
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this is inside story. ah ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm ashan halla. the g 20 summit is underway on the indonesian island of bali. leaders from around the world are hoping to get a consensus and a wide range of issues affecting billions of people. the post been done, a global economy is top of our gender. but tensions about russia's war in ukraine have taken center stage with a majority of members strongly condemning the military action. but us foreign minister says the summit is not the place to discuss security issues. and the world's economic challenges should be prioritized. so will that be a unified action will bring in our gas in a moment? first, this report from our diplomatic editor james space,
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who is the summit in body g 20 summit to take place every single year. but this is a most unusual one given the circumstances of the war in the ukraine. and it's been most difficult for the organizers, indonesia. in fact, many months ago, i remember speaking to an indonesian diplomat who was worrying about exactly how they were going to choreograph this summit. and that's because one of the members of the g 20 is russia, the country that invaded ukraine. one of the things they normally have at a summit like this is known as the family photo. when all the leaders smiled for the cameras. well, that's been abandoned this particular meeting because there's no family feeling here and no one felt like a photo. we certainly don't have all of the normal participants here. that's because president putin decided not to attend the g 20 and to send in his place.
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survey love rough, his foreign minister, but he is cutting his visit here to the g. 20 short and not attending the last day of the summit, president zalinski of ukraine was invited by indonesia to be a guest participant. he too, has decided not to come to this summit because he says he has to be at home at a time when his country is under attack and he hasn't left ukraine since the start of the war. but he did address the g 20 by video link, making his point that his country does not want to do another piece deal with russia until rushes pull all of its forces out of ukraine. this is james bays in bali for inside story. ah, let's bring it in our guests in barley, denise rich, director of the g 20 research group in london. she is also a global governance expert and also advised several countries and to corruption
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policies in washington. daniel speck heard president and ceo of cor, was international and the former us ambassador to bill arrows in moscow survey mark of director of the institute of political studies and former russian member of parliament. welcome to the program. dennis g, 20 summit has always been a forum about financial stability and other pressing global issues. this time it's really quite different in different aspects. but typically, the fact that russia is that, and russia is invasion of ukraine is dividing many countries within the d 20 yes. so the g 20 is the frame year global forum to discuss issues of economic concerns, economic stability. it was kind of or an out of an economic crisis. the 1st 225 finance ministers in central bank meetings. 1999 or 2008 was the
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1st time that came together from the world's largest economy east to discuss issues of common concerns. so the g 20 makes up about 85 percent of global g. p. 75 percent of exports are generated by 20 countries and, you know, and they make up 2 thirds of both population. so that said it has some sometimes there i, specifically on the sidelines, there are lateral meetings or trilateral meetings, etc. and then there do tend to be some kind of side statements that tend to be issued or that may have been issue condemning different countries or addressing some of the issues of the day general since 1999, the rational has been basically if you bring together the greatest economies of the world unified when it comes to dealing with global issues,
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with some the very positive signal to the entire world. but when you have countries in this particular summit, pushing full, isolating russia and you have others in the same camp saying, no, we have to have russia on board. could this be the biggest crisis facing g? 20 no, i don't think so. i mean, this is part of international affairs and diplomacy. these things go up and down. the g 20 has a strong reason for existence in the context of getting these other voices to tables that there aren't a place for right. we need voices like indonesia and brazil, and saudi arabia and turkey and australia at the table. so it's really important that this continues at the same time, one intern, national events like this are happening that are capturing really a global attention for good reason, right? we have a nuclear power here that has said that they haven't taken off the issue of using nuclear weapons. that's going to draw a lot of international attention on the security side and sometimes overwhelms
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economic issues. but i don't think we have to worry about the future of the d. 20. ok, so the russian foreign minister, lovegrove i said, this is another place to discuss some of the security issues particular, i think it was referring to the war in ukraine. what is, what is, what is russia's biggest concern when it comes to the summit in particular, because you get the sense that the buses are really concerned about the final communique. ah, no, it has no concern about a simple as you've been with us. because we know it would be a very my, should i always stick and, you know, and i says, and, but he just, and that is a, a setback for example. say that again. so i guess up line and nuclear generation, which is conducted by a bunch of energy. it gains if i don't have the most power station during 30 miles
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and you know, the information to do musician of what you put in all this on a control media and it, and it was concerned, it was, i mean, the reason why you decided not to go to was the said just due to it. um it is about a and that was outside of your sure are now g, twenties, divide. it owns that west and no one the west as a number on the western countries just bigger than westland. come to us, that's why we're, we was sure that there was a know where i needed. it was a rush. i use it as i find it is a compromise. was that an hour? it's a some sent as a some also conscious it to use that option and some of the concepts because i've
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been on the tip position or was this is your normal. we have no so much of the consumables this believe be with and not with is the man that is also this 20 dentist on ok. denise china and brazil in particular, opposed to any steps to be taken against russia. chinese tense when it comes to the war, nuclear has been widely seen as a sign of the eroding relations between the united states of america and china. what are the expectations? as far as the summit are concerned, i guess the backdrop of the political divine i saw yesterday, president biden and president, to add a 3 hour bilateral of this. the 1st time that the us in china has met in 5 years. and what was, i was extraordinary for control of the meeting. it was incredibly conciliatory. the language used was it was positive,
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it looked like they were reading bridges. be created a mechanism whereby you know, before and he leaned into a crisis. they were going to make sure that the individuals with the right level senior already are they indicated that they will make sure that the individuals with the right love you already are involved before. there is another crisis in terms of whether, you know, wow, or will be a final k or whether they'll be agreement on, on every single, particularly geopolitical issues there, you know, definitely might be challenging. what do neesha that, what you can topic is a created a theme whereby, you know, some of the team for this year is is tolliver unit. it's are coming together. it's about making sure that we recover stronger together at a picked, you know, kind of, overarching topics that are of interest to every single country at the summit level
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health infrastructure or global health architecture and digital transformation at just energy and sustainable energy consumption. so these are all things that the countries, regardless of you know, whether you're east west and what pretty level of economic development you are. we can all, you know, we would hope that we can all agree to find common ground for, for the common good. ok done, you can you help us navigate through the very complex landscape of the g 20 because this is a, some of those supposed to tackle those issues i, we spoke about which is basically the post over 19 economic order, the water in the, in ukraine. but then you have the, the bilateral meetings binding met with the chinese g, jumping a mid growing u. s. concern about china, china's growing global clout to, to supper things here,
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which one is the top priority for the united states of america? water, ukraine, or china's going roll? well, you know, i think the country like united states is going to have to have multiple top priorities in china. certainly is an equal priority to the issues going on in eurasia at the same time when you start talking about insecurity related to nuclear potential. nuclear weapons, as i mentioned earlier that grab your immediate attention. i like but denise was saying here, 20 meetings are more than just the communicate. they're more than just what the collective is talking about. they are about these bilaterals. they are about a lot of opportunities for world leaders to get outside their countries and to talk to other world leaders and to get a different perspective. and that's why, again, the g 20 brings more of these are leaders to the table, allows them to see the world in a different perspective. so for me, what's really important about this summit is these meetings between the chinese and americans, which haven't happened a long time,
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also between australia and china. the opportunity to have these discussions in a bilateral context. and then these leaders go back to their countries where they're overwhelmed by their domestic issues and politics and economics. but they come back with a worldview. and while they may not be able to tackle all those issues, then he said in a way that brings consensus, makes us all feel warm and fuzzy. i can say that these meetings usually have an important impact turning eyes towards international affairs in a way that is powerful over time. so getting the path such meetings, what are the port unity for russian leaders to showcase their growing to political influence. but they seem to be more and more isolated. you said earlier, but she's not really concerned. but when you see that each time there is a gathering, you feel like that the russian officials are struggling to try to press ahead with her own relative, particularly when it comes to the warning. ukraine, of course, not russian diploma in
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a very difficult situation where you see you are just touching call us led coalition against russia and all international innovation, even, you know, rational po, to go with us. i didn't to give. so of course, ash and diplomacy in big trouble. but this is a time for diplomats are real real, real is wrong. so again, i think it's a bit difficult situation. rush, i'm goal so it was, what was your subsidy? where use of all we want to explain. every boy does not want to not send you a great war of the united states of america, and personally don't want them against russia using that proxy. your 2nd, they want to sure that's actually read it to piece or compromise in any moment.
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production interests that will be respectful. and specifically, your case will be your final jim. i project all sound on the political prisoners and you can well believe it, a russian language reaches leg, it shows a 70 percent was a population of your grades. we'll get at the show and all these groups. i wouldn't nesa groups to be accurate. that if this will be respect demand, so russia is it towards that goal. so that, so you can see another important for us on diplomacy is in your direction for us from economy. because it important that you can't, you can't just now because on the possible russia need to be able to much more intensive relations with non western conscious and liberal data. okay,
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dennis, do you think this could be a moment when all the parties are trying to look and see whether what is happening in the ukraine, the chinese american rivalry could somehow create new political realignments within the g 20? could we see a consolidated russian chinese brazilian axis as opposed to the axis led by the losses of america? oh, wow. that's a wine. very interesting question. i think and here, you know, there were recent election so and from a kind of political will high level little well that's, that's definitely going to be missing. i think the rhetoric that has been used or the rhetoric that began to be used when the warning thing happened. the use of words like allies and alliances and, and whatnot. by the us, you know, we are,
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we are in and types of war. so i, i quite said, don't expect for the t 22 to end the war with a key player at the table. or for that you need international diplomacy. you need everybody around the table that has the ability to make the decisions. we don't have, we have one house out of the 3 country or 2 out of the 3 countries or for the 4 countries. let me try again. we have 2 out of the 4 countries that you mentioned that needs to be brought to the table at the very least. and that's definitely going to be a challenge. however, there are a number of issues that are of concern to all of those countries. international trade, food, secure climate change and these are things that are, you know, writing inflationary pressures voluntary market. busy not just in traditional finance, but also in finance industry. i mean these are all things that are affecting the
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population and the end of the daily life of individuals who live in the country. so again, if they can come to agreement on at least those issues, i think we're definitely, you know, 50 steps forward. we'll do 20 and the war and crane i am. i am a little bit skeptical about that because like i said, we don't have ok. the right around the table, done it when the reason why i'm asking you about china and united states of america, because you look at the, the platform itself, the for the you 20. now the truly the of the u. s. and china and that when you look at the relations between the 2, under trump, there were tariffs imposed against china. and then in 2022 that ships on science, it was imposed august china under the bi then administration, which basically coaches advanced technology to a manufacturing to move back to the united states of america. on the other hand, the russia, the chinese seem to be really preoccupied by where the considered as the grass if
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pushed by the americans. when it comes to tie one. is this something that could create more problems for the g 20 in the future? or this is something separate bilateral, between just the u. s. on china. well, i think these bilateral issues often lead over into the multilateral forums. so don't be surprised if it comes up again. and it's always kinda, there is a little metal. but i do think these again offer an opportunity for international leaders come together where they don't have to set up a specific bilateral meeting with all the pressures that come from a bilateral meeting in terms of being able to produce results. this gives especially in these kind of opportunities to kind of soften back into the diplomatic way to engage through dialogue leaders, an opportunity to tiptoe back into these relationships. and i see that's what's happening here. i see it's a very positive move for both china and the united states. and of course in china and the united states get along as a positive move for the world economically and politically and from
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a security perspective. so i think everybody watching this should be pleased with the positive messages that are coming out while at the same time, not being, you know, now eve, that this relationship is going to turn into something very warm, right? china has a view of its future and the united states is a global power, and they're going to continue to compete probably on the world stage. so gay, right after the russian invasion of ukraine, the supply disruption globally, along with revising inflation. the, the soaring energy prices have been widely seen as being weaponized in a way or another by a washer to get some political gains. it is russia in a very delicate position as we speak because there's a massive pressure on the buttons to a cliff when it comes to the export of grains to show that it is willing to make
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sure that there is a smooth supply of grass globally. oh, quite difficult if i was a good know of because taco, of course, cultural cries is also partly connected with the book at all ukrainian or russian game ends of national market. but the same time was a mile rushing to the market street. from what if i tried to, was there a number by your premium? great. and also russian. great is. those were, is used by us in different countries, but you can get most of those animals in the euro. and
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so it was, my rooms are all russia and i say re duplicate this. i'm nick elias or you know, great. ok, that was part of the deal and the russian grade should go to the national market as well as possible or some, but western conscious is, you know, a by a weight, it's almost l agreements. that's why i have a diploma decrease is global or, or, and russians the exact same concept for, for as that promise. and so what controls are ration great. let's before, because i have a few other angles to cover with you. if you don't mind, denise, shortly. if you don't mind, this is a moment when the what is a can for to reopen both, those left covered related restrictions when you have a g 20 which represents something like 80 percent of the g d p struggling divided.
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do you have any that any optimism in the other we're likely to see some string of economic decisions to be made to make the, what a better place to live in? i sure hope so, i'm particularly looking at some some decisions are going to be made around over taxation reform. i think we're going to be looking at more funding for just the just energy transition partnership. i'm looking at new forms to financing, putting sustainable models and, and partnerships that are being elevated. and i definitely was looking forward to at this time, looking forward to some, some working around the space and to show ownership transparency, which i know doesn't sound that impactful. but given that account for 3 trillion dollars have massive impact and funding could be used for something else. daniel authoritarianism, which is on the wise climate change poverty landing to those who are distressed
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economically seem to be not on the back burner. given the fact that there is this massive focus on the water, ukraine, and the rivalry between the united states of america and china, are we likely to see those issues just relegated to the back burner for years and years? so come no, i don't think so. i mean, i don't think this is going to stay at this level of attention for forever. so you're going to see some sorts of progress in ukraine one way or the other on the diplomatic or military front. and that is going to find some room again for the economic issues, the environmental issues and other issues to take their place. the reality is ukraine actually is very impact on the global economy and food too many other countries creating a food crisis in terms of both the qualities as well as the pricing for many of these countries and your listeners. so the reality is ukraine does need to get addressed and actually gets addressed. you're going to see improvement in the economic issues and allow us to actually turn back to environmental issues which
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are affecting so many countries are really appreciate you inside looking forward to talking to you in the near future about this story. and many other topics. denise reddish dennis spec heard, so again, micro thank you very much. thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. another. com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a jane. so i saw you can also join the conversation on twitter. our 100 is at ha, inside story from the hash amount on the entire team here in doha. ah ah and
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