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discussing a new documentary by our colleagues at a j plus one day in hebron. the film follows al jazeera is dina. take worry as she travels back to the old city where her father grew up. let's take a quick look at the trailer. oh, this is what i experienced minutes after setting foot in my family's hometown with a little but we literally just got here. we went through the 1st military checkpoints and a bunch of soldiers stopped. us started yelling at us and i'm in the old city of hadron in the occupied west bank. a place that once bustled with life. but i'm about to see what israel's occupation and settlers haven't done to the heart of his city. hm. and to the people who with i'm a palestinian american journalist and i've spent much of my career reporting on the occupied territories. but hadron one of the west banks largest cities,
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is also my roofs. my father was born and raised here. i've returned to learn how the occupation has decimated his beloved home town. a place he hasn't been back to in years ago. and i know it's really hard for him to see those. and so it's emotional for me. tell us discuss how hebron and palestinians more broadly are impacted by israel's occupation, were joined by a few of the people who worked on the film. joining us from san francisco and dina to query senior presenter at age plus and co author of they called me a linus, a palestinian girls fight for freedom and then occupied east jerusalem filmmaker and camera man. i met a boot, i'm moose. and last but not least with us from tel aviv ori diversity advocacy director at breaking the silence. we want to of course include your thoughts on
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this show. so be sure to share your questions and comments right here in are you to chat and be part of the conversation? i want to get straight to at dina. so many questions for you. i'm curious, 1st off, how did the idea to work on this documentary come about? it's much more personal than your other work or your, you know, the work i'm familiar with and for me it really hit differently because of that. yeah, well thanks. i met it's good to be here and it's good to see already in a man in a less tense environment. i was planning, you know, as you heard in the trailer, i have reported from the occupied west bank several times throughout my career. and it's also where most of my family lives. and so i knew i would be taking a trip here this summer and i was sort of brainstorming with my producer coming staffing. and he came up with the idea of you know, you're from hebron. i'm actually from hebron on both sides, mother and father, but my dad grew up there and lived there the longest. and so the idea came about to go there to visit, have brought to retrace my father's footsteps and to tell the story of the
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occupation they are in a very sort of discovery. and personal way. we say later in the film that my dad can't really return, and i also wanted to, to honor him and to sort of give this as a sort of a contribution to my family lineage and to my ancestors. and, you know, it's interesting. i mean, i've also worked with you in palestine. i'm curious, working with dean on such a personal project for you. reporting and working their day and day out. what was like for you to be part of that process? actually was i asked mud i every one. yeah. i worked with us and i enjoy it. i was down when we started, this is like when we want to go to here and they know it's very emotional here. so it makes me feel like i am a blood study. i need to get her as a spontaneous it should. yeah. like i feel more emotional because i'm
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a child a long time, which is the only she she doesn't thoughts about it. so yeah, it was really emotional about this would be like a motional and to be honest, i was shocked because i started being used whether, you know, we, we want to be like a coffee to be in life actually the 1st year by so with the, i take my mood that way and i feel like i can continue to just started stop a police. ok guys. come down here. you're talking about the interactions with israeli soldiers? correct? yeah, exactly. yeah, and i want to, i want to talk more about it. i literally just started rolling and we got pounced on and surrounded and swarmed and it really set the tone for the rest of the day. and a man really bore the brunt of the harassment that day. and i like apologize in so
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many times and thanked him but, and there's something to say about how targeted cameras are by then by there's really military. right. and i hope we can discuss that more because even at the top of the show, i mean of the trailer that we played for our audience. i mean that was a parent or he on that note, i mean you've served in the military there in israel, and i want to ask you now that you're giving these guided tours in hebron. i know this is part of your job with breaking the silence. tell us why you do that and what it was like for you to be part of this project. so very basically break the silence. busy soldiers like me and we. busy all serving the fight very unique in different places. and we all share in common is the lender. then we must expose the reality of the patient. why do you mean control the policy? the way we do and what is true and the testimony of our own service. yeah, we already did it. we already are in it. and now the meaning that we can do is talk
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about this reality. and this is the, one of the reasons we have many of our fires in our service and you have on you can see it very clearly different types of elements on role that the patient. and i will say that the project today we've been together and everyone was different. and then the usual towards the guy that they just came back and, but it would be nice if the friends, because it's very rare. i never happen until that to walk in the street of hebron. we dina with the family from hebron. yeah. and who now live somewhere else don't land and where pushed
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away from it. and that was a very special moment for me and her father during the building, so unique. and i'm glad you brought up her father and you know i've met your father and i have to say, you know, on a personal note, a real tender guy. he can be and you know, when i was watching the documentary, i was definitely struck by, by this part of the film. let's share it with our audience. now. come back to you. take a look. oh hi baba. oh, good one. how are you? oh, i want to show you, i think this is where you grew up is this is lee with and so sad. i do not know how
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proud your dad is of your journalistic work and just all you've accomplished but, but that moment you walking there knowing he can't be there. what was the like for you? oh man, if you played another 30 seconds, you see me crying because a man asked how does this feel free? diana was very emotional. i mean there's, there's the guilt. there's sadness on his, you know, sadness for him. where i was standing right. there was a street where no palestinians are allowed to walk, even if they live on that street. they have to exit their homes and enter through a back entrance. and so technically, by virtue of me being palestinian american, i wasn't even supposed to be there. but i was literally standing 10 feet away or less. that's the cemetery where his parents are buried. you know where my grandparents are, my ancestors are and right above the cemetery is the house he grew up in. and just to see, you know, to think of like the memories he told me about how vibrant it was, how he used to carry a basket down there and go to the vegetable store and buy for fruit and walk back
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home. his middle school was on that street. it used to be like, you know, a super busy center, a palestinian life and it's an absolute ghost town. and the only sounds you hear are the fluttering of his railey flags above. and the only people you see are some settlers and some armed soldiers. it just, it devastated me, you know, and it, and i was really sad for him. so it was, it was quite an emotionally charged moment, which i am caught on to and asked me about on camera emmons. good at that. and i'm and i, you know, when you ask edina about that, i'm curious your experience, particularly since i'm israeli soldiers killed should in a block lay things seem from afar. i haven't been there for several years now, but it seems as though it's harder to work as a journalist, it seems as though the occupation is more entrenched. what can you share with us and about what it was like, i'm trying to report this story like this fine, should anyone, it's something really like you need to think twice with the spike and the other the
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be in here. and you know, it's hard to find the lead on the orders on the list when you are in that country. the claim that the owner of the country in the middle east, actually the state of the one, the state for me as someone would be living here one more years. i know this democracy, it's fake when it's come to a niggling grant and was the people and we just want to show what's the life of these people. so it's become like the do you and i, and i'm, and i want to ask you in the civically, sorry for give me after 3. and as you were just about to say, i mean, has it gotten harder for you? is your perception of your ability to move to report? do you feel more targeted, our soldiers harassing you more or more areas off limits? actually yes. especially in words like i feel like whenever they want to go to the
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bank, sometimes i feel i will not go back to my house and he but if i were the jackets and everything and i'm coming up there. so i feel that i might me not going back to my house because of what's happened to city and, and i feel it's really good especially with so just like, i can't tell these people they don't see anyone like on the cell, but you know, for now what i do on the right of this kind of like these 2 countries as well, but it's fine. i see enough on anyone. if i see from my camera and i'm not trying to be a stand, i'm just trying to see what i see is what i owe to the people. this is my job, my 3rd most certainly i saw that dina, and also already were both nodding as you were, outlining the reality of what it's like to try to work on the ground. we have
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a small clip from actually the documentary that kind of illustrates this. let's play it for audience. then i'll come to you or take a look. i did so me both in the stuff that can lead them home. i meant home with family with it can ever like a menu and he had one in mean i'm on or as i understand it, i've been following breaking the silence for many years now. but when we look at the politics and who the israeli people are electing netanyahu, who has found to be a corrupt leader who was charged and he's somehow now made a comeback. i'm wondering. where is this sort of lack of consciousness of sort of
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the level of di, humanise zation that on the individual level, but also collectively they're, they're, they're putting on this population. why in your opinion, to so many soldiers are not sort of wake up and break the silence earlier? yeah, i think it is one of the core, each of the problems here and or us is riley worries are in like a child who are using high school media education. everything directs us to become a older military, everything direct us and we have the most well are there was a love to say about the israel is up and if
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we are not being encouraged whatsoever and more importantly than that. yeah. or maybe together there is also no incentive today for an israeli to look critically of the situation. yeah. relatively. yeah. while of course we all have family members, friends who are victims of this situation as well. and people who died as a result. relatively speaking, these rays are not affected by your patient. our day to day life is barely affected a night and am i middle school and i appreciate this going for give me i don't intend to reject, but i appreciate this point at same time. let's take another look at a clip that kind of illustrates the way in which i, you interacted with these soldiers while you were all working on this film. take a look. oh, hold on,
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please. please. a follow up with me. i will see them in clinic with i was showing them a little above a double damage. only mcclure someone with a go 30 volva in ari. i see them pushing you there. and obviously anyone who's worked on the ground or, or tried to interact with soldiers, i mean, the dehumanization is immediate an instant. and do you know, while that was all happening? i mean, could you give us a little bit more context of, was that at the beginning of the trip, what was going through your mind? did you think that me maybe you wouldn't be able to report the story? i know that was literally when we had just arrived like a man had just started rolling like 30 seconds prior. we were filming me walking down. that's the 2nd checkpoint and i was greeting oriend, his colleague, joel and right. as we were saying, hi, how are you and dina, they came in and they swarmed us and for me like, you know,
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i had so much anticipation like i had studied the area. i had talked to my dad, he drew me maps. i'm visiting my home town and, and it just got so tainted and you brought up to dana wagner earlier and she was my friend and she was my colleague and this was just weeks after she was murdered and she was fresh in my mind. i cannot look at an israeli soldier and not uniform the same one. you know, what was it different for you? i mean, i know you've worked there before. you've always come across quite quite stoic in your, in your deliveries and, and in the way you interact with these soldiers. was it different this time because of her loss? i mean, she was perhaps, as we all know, um maybe one of the most relentless and persistent reporters on this issue and depicting our daily life under occupation. so it was different for you, dina, this time it a 100 percent. i mean, even in 2018, a man and i were reporting, we weren't doing anything and they threw stun grenades out as i've never been under the delusion that being a journalist will somehow protect me. but when you see how shitty debacle was
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murdered in cold blood, despite wearing a helmet and press best marked press despite being a us citizen. and that moment you know, i'm thinking my us passports, not protecting me, the cameras not protecting me. and even in that same location where we were just a few weeks prior, another palestinian american journalist named highest mean was also detained by soldiers there. while she was building her show, she was taken, she was strip, searched in front of her mother, you know, for no reason. and they had one of the soldiers had the bite of his rifle in her mother stomach while she was being stripped search. i told henri, i don't know what would have happened if you guys weren't there. you know, if i didn't have to former israeli soldiers there to protect me in my home town. so there was a lot of feelings and there was a lot of thinking about shipping and i'm thinking about how these guys can do anything they want to with impunity with the backing of the. and i think with the need to understand this together with the issue of the fact that israel
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and the patient is great. everything can we, you know, the height is the reality. yeah. these are the one of the decade because, you know, being billed by the, by the railing in there. yeah. and it's not for series that is a lot of those terrible ceiling is ceiling and, and we're just seeing the lation grow. more palestinians die more and more whole devolution more home invasions. this equation is only becoming war and it's more scary dying, more theory for. and of course, what 1st and foremost for quality of living, those are also for the organizations for the activists, is becoming a mortgage people. well, and i know that you feature soldiers who are anonymous most of the time. it's not all the time. and i understand because of the fear of retribution nomic lee and but i wonder without breaking the silence and going public and being visible. and,
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and i think so much of what i've heard is that there's, there's like sort of, there's no incentive because they don't see the occupation that doesn't affect their lives there in israel. so i wonder with all that said, i'm and you know, our colleagues should in when she was killed, we saw a complete lack of accountability, the same thing you're discussing, impunity. now 6, very long months later we've seen the f b i in the u. s. announcing that they're going to launch an investigation. i kinda want to ask you all this. i mean, we've since then heard the white house informing israeli counterparts that they weren't involved in the decision to open this investigation. you know, kind of back tracking away from it. you know, this lack of accountability, do you have any hope not just on the issue of sitting, but i'm, and do you have hope and where do you draw hope from that there will be accountability for each life loss, but also for the broader issues that you depict in this docu pendant documentary
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are happening i actually i feel that this country no one comes on. they just do a little. i always say that we follow that not true, but they all the same that with a lot of no action and they look all the laws with when i need to know the have that and they can say like and done, it's going to close case. so i don't feel like i, when i went in last time, i like where we're sitting, where i'm at the office. anyone will come to me like anyone in one will have to interesting it or you can tell that a g with when
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they claim that until on the addiction actually that is a school and that is a like i can see anything like when she used to be a 15, it's only a military team. and so thing on here today, addiction and it's, it's like it's obvious. and i don't think anyone was the geisha. and i think what, i think what so maddening is despite the, as you say, obvious facts on the ground, we still see time and time again, the ability to act with impunity. and it's, you know, in the documentary, just to bring it back to your work. you know, i wanna, i want to share with our audience a clip of a conversation you had with cell a young girl there. take a look and then we'll come back to a
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you know, on a personal note what's always so troubling for me and difficult to process when i see these sorts of videos either in your work or on social media is the way that the occupation in the israeli soldiers treat or dehumanize palestinian children ah, whether abusing them interrogating them, torturing them, whatever might be dina, watching this and being there and bearing witness if you will. seeing the father half to restrain himself. what was that like?
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i mean, just especially since the impetus of this trip was you kind of coming back to connect with your father's hometown. exactly. i mean, i haven't stopped thinking about selling since the day we met her. and i exactly had that same thought that this could have been my life as a little palestinian girl from hebron. and that could have been my father. i mean this poor child and her siblings are so traumatized. they were accused of playing with a knife right in front of their house, even though there's cameras surrounding them. proving the contrary about because a settler went and told a soldier, she had a nice, they believed him and they arrested her as we were standing there talking. you know, it's such a tense situation because their house is, you know, right above them isn't israeli settlement. they're surrounded by these illegal israeli settlers. there are nets above that alley way to catch the stones and the trash and sometimes urine that settlers throw down at them. so every little sound we hear, she looks up. and i ask her, are you afraid that they're going to throw something at you? and she said, yes, because it happened so much just a week prior. her 5 year old brother was hit by a rock right here and his face swelled up from a settler. and she told me,
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you know, we look at the settler kids, we can see them playing with their toys every single day. and we want to go out and play like that. yeah. and this just shows you the innocence of children. her brother said, why, let's go, let's go join them and she said, we can't join them this. i'm not, unfortunately, didn't. i appreciate you sharing those thoughts. we can't continue this conversation now live on air. we've run out of time, but it's an incredible documentary for those of you haven't seen it. check it out. thank you to our guests, dina, i, man and ori. ah, certainly not the last time we'll be talking about this here at the stream. be sure to take a look at the documentary and let us know what you think. ah,
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