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a day until kick off in the 2022 foot for well caff fee for pricing johnny in containers accusing western critics of hypocrisy. when it comes to cut up, he defended the treatment of migrant workers, saying europe should not be giving what he calls moral lessons. who is actually carrying about the workers who he for thus football does the woke up thus and to refer to them cut out thus as well preliminary results, sir, starting to come in from malaysia's general election, former prime minister, mattie mom it has lost his seat, is been call the most competitive vote in the country's history. avenues ritchie soon arc has visit, visited ukraine for the 1st time since becoming britain spawn minister. he met with those present vote amused. lensky in keys sooner has promised his government continued support for ukraine,
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hello, i'm the whole robin and welcome to the special edition of inside story. cut hours waited 12 years for this moment, and it's finally here. the 2022 fif up world cup is about to begin. 4 balls, greatest sporting prize will be contested here in the middle east for the very 1st time. and over the next month, it's expected that over a 1000000 football fans will descend on doha can ha, since winning the bid in 2010 count, i spent billions of dollars to prepare. the country has built new roads and infrastructure, and new airport. and new metro system linking new stadiums, some of the modern and innovative weathers,
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inspired by the regents history and traditions. but the lead up has put counter under international scrutiny like never before, especially on human rights issues and the treatment of migrant workers. so we'll take a look at the impact of the world cup on and off the pitch, and how it'll change cattle and the region long after the final whistle. here it al jazeera, our journalists are working hard to provide a unique perspective on the world's biggest sporting event will have special coverage throughout the whole of the tournament. so i think what's really exciting to be here as john is covering the tournament is the fact that this is a compact, well cut the most compact in history. so i can be reporting on a game early afternoon out 0 and then that night as a fine i can go and watch a game. and for me that's really exciting. and in terms of our does, there is coverage as a whole. i think one of the advantages and thrust is we are a channel based here in doha. so we have presented his report. correspondence,
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i've lived in the region for many years and they have the inside of knowledge which other broadcast is may not have. it's been our on our radar for the last 12 years, really since they were what did the competition in 2010 the advantage about here obviously that it's on our home turf. but our cheese era's general advantage over other broadcast as is its global reach. so we've always got things covered here in katha, but we got so many correspondence all over the world, whether it be south america, north america, europe, africa, we've engaged correspondence in all of those areas as well. to make this a global coverage of this filament, which is here on our doorstep. well, because we live here, we've got context across its diverse population. so we'll be able to tell you the stories you weren't here anywhere else. ah, less bringing i guess for today's edition of inside story. joining me now is ross griffin, at least editor for the international journal of the history of sports and final,
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with the editor in chief of the gulf times and from a long and camera shows a lease now and say, hey, sports reporter had cameroon radio and television welcome to all of mike, i say on this edition of inside story, but 1st let speak to a clever al harun. he's the founder of i love counseling dot net that provides information about events in qatar. i could help you with the on the program could have you with us on the program, johnny and 15. a said just a short while ago on the eve of the event today. i feel guitar today. i feel arab today. i feel african today i feel gay. today i feel to save to day, i feel like a migrant worker. one gets the impression that infant tina is saying that we should all be proud of who we are and what we've achieved and bringing the world cup to the middle east despite the issues and the problems that cattle has experienced from the global community. absolutely, and i think the message is very clear, the message is that we are all unique and it's football that supposed to be
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bringing us together so that we can not only share in each others that uniqueness, but also share each other's culture with children. learn from each other do. and i think it's a responsibility of every individual to care about their neighbor. and i'm looking forward to seeing all of the amazing people from around the world and all of the from backgrounds are coming over and having a great time is a very friendly message to your portraying. but it hasn't been an easy message for kata or the arab world to get out these past few years within the last decade or so . we've seen the arab spring arise across the middle east, crating turmoil for the region. also, cat are itself a victim of a blockade and a legal blockade that was lifted. it lasted nearly 4 years. the outside world, looking at the middle east thinking is this really the right place to host, you know, such a huge event? i mean, it's been a hard messaging campaign as well. well, i mean, if we look at say, history, look all over the world will see that dick country, some countries have had hundreds of thousands of years to go through
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a lot of turmoil and trouble and problems and are still going through problems you know, today. and here in the middle east, i think there's no doubt that anybody can say, you know, that the, the people here haven't been suffering. you know, there's been a lot of suffering in the region. and one of the really amazing things about us having the opportunity to host the world cup is that at least for a moment, we can all 1st of all, showcase what we really stand for who we really are. and forget about all of the troubles and the problems that we've been facing gear or over the past are 1020, you know, 30 years. and so i think the message, you know, that we want to share is that listen, it's, it's time for us to have a chance. and again, it's the world cup. that means that it's a chance and an opportunity for everyone from all over the world, from any country to one day herstecker at the world cup. and i think that's, that's the dream, right? that as an individual you, you might be playing football outside, you know, just right in front of your house, thinking that one day i'm going to be part of a club and then
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a national team. i'm going to represent my country, maybe in the world cup. and similarly countries also have the ambition that may be one day. i also have the opportunity to, to, to, to host the grey game to. and it is. so if i just remembering that very quickly because you know the optimism is great, but at the end of the day, cattle in itself, in the, in the past 10 years has received a great deal of criticism over various issues. i just wondered what your take was on it considering your so active on various social platforms and you do promote castle, what sort of either abuse you've had or you've read abuse that you've a bit upset about so i mean, 1st of all, let me start off with the fact that hosting the world cup is an event that we all know that every single spotlight, every single magnifying glass, is going to be on the country. this is known from day one and the way that i see it . this is a great opportunity that we can hear from experts from around the world to tell us,
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hey, maybe there are a couple of issues here and there may, there may be, there are many issues as well and gives us the opportunity to fix them. i feel like when it comes to criticism of course, are some valid criticism. there is, sadly a criticism based off of misinformation, you know, that's out there. and i feel like there's no acknowledgment of all of the positive change that's happened in the country. so i definitely feel, um, i feel a bit of motional in the sense that so many people myself included, have really been working hard to make cutter and the world a better place. but it seems like that's just dismissed. and, and, and, and we're only focusing on problem after problem after problem, even problems that have already been solved many years ago. so we're again, i think i just hope that people can give us a chance. and deb encourage positive change. instead of constantly beating us down, and again, i've seen a lot of positive messages, you know, on social media as well, people from all over the world,
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supporting cutter and backing us. and they're saying that, you know, they stand for what we're doing. and i've even seen some people say, listen, good job cutter with some of the changes that you've done. now we expect more from you, and honestly, we all expect more as a kid. sorry, i expect the best out of my country because a cutter deserves the best as a message that you see there displayed all over the nation. and, and we want to show the world that we are a major force for good. well, we'll just see what the the world does make of it during and certainly after the work out for my colleague the al her. and thanks so much for joining us and our thank you so much. ah. so let's start with our conversation. no vessel can. i come to you 1st, i mean, it's a moment to be proud of, surely. but did you ever think just briefly that this moment would actually arrive here in kat are right now? well, you know, it's a lot of dedication, a lot of, you know,
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milestones and stages that not only about the world cup, it's our social development. since that time, you know, it's been now 12 years. we have progress and everywhere in our social, social and development on the sport, unfair structure. and i mean, it's been, it's like a dream think come through indeed. and that's what we're talking to said before we came on. i mean, ross kind of come to you about this. i mean, a new chapter is about to be written in the fee for history books here. so when the referee blows whistle on the opening match in the rally, less than 24 hours times the start of the 2022 p for world cup. how much of this chapter is going to be about football? and how much of this chapter will be about the criticism that cattle has received and had to endure as well in the lead up to this event. a chapters a very interesting metaphor to use because looking at it in terms of the history of
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the world cup itself, it's being brought into a new place and we all know the work, but never been horsed by middle eastern country before. so that's a brand new chapter and fif as history of the world cup. laws will bring a new hot chapter into a cutter, sporting history, and this is a misconception, when the main criticisms that it tastes for the longest time with a cat, are never had a sport in culture. it was almost as if the world cup was the beginning of football in this country. and that's patently false, that in playing football here since late 1900 forty's, and amidst all the criticisms that they've had to faced is have been one of the biggest misconceptions often lobbied again. scott, are by western journalist with little knowledge of the game beyond a very eurocentric school that includes the top 56 leagues in europe, and the champions league. they don't recognize that this sport is indeed a globe of game. so when we see the work up beginning in less than 24 hours time, it's a new chapter encounters football history and it's football culture. but it's not the 1st chapter that chapter begun in 1947 book began sorry 1947. and it's going to
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one. it's going to be continued to be written after the term to finished the asian cup and 12 months time. ross, just hold off for a moment because workers' rights have been under scrutiny in council since that one, the right house, the welcome in 2010. now the international labor organization, part of the u. n. says working and living conditions of hundreds of micro workers have greatly improved in the past decade get category. officials say the countries still coming under criticism and much is miss directed. someone talks about 6500 victims. another says 10000 and the 3rd one talks about 15000 as if there was a competition. there shouldn't be any politicizing or using misinformation. so we ask that you refer to official sources like ilo, 1st look like them to you. i mean, obviously, you know, government fish officials are very high levels, are making it aware to the international community by media and politicians as well
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as the public at large. but some of the criticism is incredibly unfair. despite the fact that there are other countries in the world also have human rights issues, inverted commas in their own nations. and how disappointed are you at the way criticism has been directed at carter, especially tag together with the world cut shook. so if we go back little to the history, you know, we are and depend our and dependency was in 1971. so we have certain policy that does not fit know. so now we have the world cup our population since that time have doubled. you're talking about 12 years of the form of policy. and i really also think that the reform of policies is as, as done because the world cup, but it was fast forward and i think after the world woke up, it will also continue based on the need and to meet the international law. so. so
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here we are really an upper chrissy world. today you listen to twitter fighting, 5050 percent of his employee. nobody talks to thee, for example, international companies like nike has been abused, an issue for child labor. and so the current system goes to nike itself. does not go to to the country. so if you think of katara from the 8 stadium 7 stadium was built by international respect that the company that has its e c, which is health, safety environment measurements internationally recognize. so what are they thought those company are being are been, are they in the spot? no, they cashed out and left for over the mid throws, has been built by, by international companies where oddity. so really, i think this is really unfair because cut off during this time have re informed
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many one as the security funds. second is the minimum wages even of even the accommodation, it's really for cut out for that policy and enforcement. but it is. but part of those international companies who want to, to save some money somewhere, it's should have looked at the workers themselves. i mean, that's the debate will carry on with in a moment. sure. let's bring in. lean nancy in belong in cameroon. just to change the tone, the 1st one to stand, the context of where we are in terms of the world cup. i mean lean when south africa for example, one the rights to host the 2010 tournament. were you as a kind of a rudy, and as proud to see the event come on your continent even though it wasn't in your country? of course, we have this emotional enough again, that one's a country be participating in the word cause it is entire
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africa. that is what is the big thing in the world. and so when the competition came to south africa through the pen, it was the feeling of being african. all africans were proud because before the competition actually kicked off, no one believed that an african country could single handedly course the work up south africa. did that in 2010 to maybe just for prize of many who had already ruled out and who had brought india criticisms? the question why the competition should be given to south africa to post. so it was kind of the africans who it, that was it concerns one person navigate conference, the entire africa and d, w. so right now you can understand perhaps what category is experiencing to a certain point of view where you are, what are people saying about the world cup in cats, or are they talking about human rights? are they talking about migrant worker, right?
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are they talking even about gay and lesbian? l g b t q issues. what's the conversation right now in cameroon? well, the conversation in camden right now is about the competition proper camry and wanted to see our football loving people. and i think that has to do with football, you'll find it come in an interest. and we've got to talk with some people on the sheets here in, cameroon. and they've actually been healing a tar because no one, i want to say, believe that car, that is be lives to be a small country with a population that is minimal. we're talking about 3000000 people if i am not mistaken. and no one believes that to talk them through, given that one, talk about the climatic conditions that are not favorable equally talked about e, suffolk area that might not be able to host the number of people that are coming
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into the country were talking. i was meeting people that should be getting into the country on a competition by credit within the tribes that have been part of the country with since the case of the us that have been constructed in the country. and we've also seen the move out for tells about how being brought in and cover only as i would say the appreciate. what so ensure that people feel comfortable with compassion kicks ok. well, we'll talk about to you about that because of the lots of issues being raised and even say 24 hours before the ball is kick. fif is present himself as criticized some of that media coverage ahead of the world cup, saying that europe shouldn't be giving what he called moral lessons on human rights . i think for what your opinions have been doing in the last 3000 years. around the world, we should be apologizing for next 3000 years before starting to give more
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lessons to people. this doesn't mean that we shouldn't point at what doesn't work, hitting carpet as well. of course, there are certain things that don't work and the need to be addressed. but this more lesson giving one side, it is just the focusing. so fessler, johnny infant tina, obviously making his mark just on the eve of the well cut itself. what's your reaction to what he said? is it too late? i don't think it's too late. you know, the studio type of the arabs, the middle east, you know, i agree on what he says on lecturing us on human rights and everything. you know,
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to tell you the truth. i think countries like, you know, who's criticizing us germany or england wherever should use this opportunity for a public diplomacy to, you know, maybe maybe we forgive them. i mean, the public's not me. the public of the middle east forgive them for what they have done to iraq or whatever. and you know, the whole idea of the world cup is a hub of alliance of civilization. we sit here, we talk, we know each other, but luck turning us from london. whatever does not really send a good message for the youth or does not start a new page. what do you make of it? because obviously, you know rebuke in countries. they sort of merge into the domain. the politics doesn't said that politicians to be saying these things, you know, human rights activists. whatever johnny is on the head of a sport body, he has a very fine line to walk. yeah. ironically enough, i don't think he's rhetoric hopes. i think something like that just reaffirms this us versus then dynamic that existed once in colonial times and it's still lingers
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on. i think that there could be, it's very combative and you catch more flies with tony than you do with vinegar. i think he has, he's making some valid points, but i don't think his tone is going to recognize the culture of change that has come into carter because of the work of massive changes and massive improvements have been made in the last 10 to 12 years. and i a lot of recognize this amnesty of recognize this people like nicholas, mickey and unfair square of recognize this bus as a base i think isn't about change is about the rate of change. and when you have this kind of rhetoric, again dividing, exacerbating just devoid of us versus them, it doesn't help things. and the same thing, it just creates, widens that distance even further, and the rate of change. a gentleman until we'll come back to that in a moment because the rate of change has also created the debate over the number of
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deaths related to welcome projects and the misconception about the number of people who die because of world cut related projects. lots of numbers have been banded around globally, but we go by what the international labor organization has said. and the myths they want to dispel, they are re un body. this is what they have to say. this relates to the total number of south asian nationals who have died in katara over 10 year period. it doesn't make any distinction between whether it be the work related death or non work related in quarter. the workforce is incredibly diverse. south, asians are working in every sector of the economy across all income levels and they make up a huge proportion of the overall population, 50 to 60 percent of the population. the figure of 6500 is certainly misleading. such huge development. facile comes with a price. one, death is one death to many for any country in projects like this. but cotton has actually, as you say, the policy is that the government, it's the implementation,
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the companies to make sure that safety is observed. how, how much, how quickly has called you, they had to change to you when they come up to the standards of what the international community expect when you put on big events like this. first of all, you know, back to the statistic, i mean, you have sparked up, it's about it very well. you know, a lot of people that doesn't know that the, the demography of cuts are cut on hers. 85 percent of expecting 15 percent off of locals. so manipulating the statistic, this is what was going on. another thing, you know, you have, i think in this case you have 2 to 2 paths. one is the propaganda, which we really cannot tell. and the complex of the white savior complex that we cannot sell. secondly, we have people who are misinformed, so those i think that's really as our, as our duty to, to, to, to correct that mr. mascot,
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misconception and term of policies. i mean that is the minimum weight was, was not there, the car fall, i was not there to follow which you know, you have somebody in contract and he cannot. 3 moved from one place to one place. second said the 3rd of the, the most important thing, which a lot of people didn't talk about. as i mentioned, 85 percent. you have 69000000000 cut that y'all has to transfer to south of h. yes. because of the people what's here. so how many jobs can he? it's ross, just bringing on here because of the, you know, the, the history of how kat has dealt with well cut will pass the left of historians after the event is over. but for the moment, intensified things like policy, employment, policy workers. right. so i mean how, how important is it that kathy, you might say, learns from what it's experiencing right now for when it wants to bid for other events in the future? that's a very good question. katara sporting journey isn't going to finish with the world
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cope. so we've got the asian coping 12 months time, the asian games in 2030. and there's always the potential of atlantic bid bubbling under the surface. i think qatar as his days is learning every day about how to host a mega event of this, of the significance. if you asked them 10 years ago, 2 years ago would, what would you do differently? i think the big learning, more metabolic take with it would have is that control the narrative a lot close a lot more closely left firmly. for the longest time, the less western journalists, particularly in western europe, have a free reign over how to describe the tournament. it's only in the last year or 2 that they've actually start to answer back. i mean, that's the big take away that don't take away from this torn. let's see what the takeaways all was and he told me it begins. and then suddenly we have to leave it there. i'm sure they could have gone for another hour or so the so much more to discuss. we will come back to it. i'm sure in the month of the world cup for the moment, i'd like to thank ross griffin, festal, alma,
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darker and shall delete nancy in belong in cameroon. good luck to your team as well . nancy. i know that you would want the trunk believe in the 75 of i'm sure and thank you again. thank you. on inside story. thank you. as well for watching. you can see this program again anytime by visiting our website out there with dot com. and for further discussion gateway facebook page on facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. we're at age 8 inside story that got to tune into algebra and the next month for extensive coverage of the world cup. for me. so rama on the inside. so it seems like your time and your company indonesia, your investment destination, the world's 10 largest economy is busy transforming, ready to beat your business, partner with a robust talent pool,
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