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he said it's enough, the number of workers kill stadiums. that's our air conditioning during times like these. and you can't even drink a beer, which for me as a bar. oh not obviously is a part of it. no, we cannot longer support supporters in the orange street in the have. i don't agree with such a boycott if you ask me if i feel bad to people dying day. of course we do that. i think it's more a political political thing when they play, we do this. if they, if they want to boy called it, then the cars would be shooting center. while the dutch team as left what katara as he didn't of orange street appearing for their 1st woke up in winter, hoping that he achievement of their idols will be enough to keep them warm, steadfast, and al jazeera. the hey ah, i'm, let's take you through some of the headlines here now just 0. now the rescue teams
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is searching for survivors after another quake struck indonesia, the main island java, the magnitude $5.00 quake was centered around the west job of province. at least 46 people have been killed. jessica washington as more from jakarta, while not necessarily being as strong as some earthquakes that we've experienced in the past year and it's major. what is important to note is the death and the location. the fact that this earthquakes epi center was on land and not as see. so far, authorities have said that there is no potential for a to nami, and they are still gathering the facts on the scene. but there are some difficulty that local authorities are facing a short while ago we heard from the local regent of t and your head into how much we said that it is rather a dire situation because many roads are blocked and hundreds are injured. and local authorities estimate that some thousands of houses may potentially be damaged. several rockets of hit, a border area or in southern tortilla. 3 people including
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a child, have been killed. turkish authorities say kurdish fighters and syria are behind the attack. a 17 year old palestinian boy is been killed and 5 people wounded during israeli raid on jeanine refugee camp in the occupied west bank. the hmo de sadie was on his way to school when a confrontation broke out between israeli forces and palestinian fighters. nearly $200.00 palestinians have been killed in the occupied territories since the stars of the year. china is battling a surgeon cove at 19 infections is reported 3 deaths the 1st in 6 months. a 5 day locked down has been imposed in parts of gang joe city of 19000000 people. a top court in south africa says the release from prison of former president jacob summa was unlawful. it's yet to rule though, on whether he'll return to jail,
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zoom or received a 15 month sentence for refusing to testify before a corruption inquiry. the 1st world camp held in the middle east kicked off in cut her with a star studded opening ceremony. actor morgan freeman and a member of the k pop group b. yes. were among the big names headlining the events. there's a headlines news continues after inside story. ah, malaysians were hoping elections would lead to political stability. but the parliamentary vote on saturday produced no outright winner. that's left malaysia with the 1st hung parliament in its history. so what happens now,
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and what does it mean for the countries democracy? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much of job compromise seems the only way forward for politicians in malaysia as after a very tight race left parliament with no clear winner. a coalition between the main runners is now the only way to form a government. battling from majority support in the lower house of parliament are familiar faces. opposition leader on where abraham and his rival and former premier or he denio seen both say they have enough support to rule. it's a familiar scenario in the capital qual and poor that seen 3 prime ministers in the last 4 years. if a compromise is in the greed, the king can appoint a politician is prime minister who he believes will command a majority in parliament. florence louis reports from the capital
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malaysians woke up to an uncertain future on sunday with no clear winner in the general election. negotiations have begun to determine who will join forces to make up the majority in parliament. opposition blocked. the alliance of hope let by unwind. abraham has the most seats, but not enough break at the national or national ally is the 2nd largest coalition . it's met with leaders of a regional party based in rock state, who now has the potential to be kingmaker. i don't think i. i am quite unsettled because now the alliance of every touch on national are going neck. and i am hoping for the best for the new government, i just hope that they are all united because in the end it's really about the country is for the people and it's for the future. some analysts say it's possible the same parties that were in power before parliament was dissolved,
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could work together again, which may upset some voters as this alliance would include barry sagnasti now or the national front, whose leaders are tainted by corruption. the most important thing is for break or the national tony choose or appoint candidates or probably one trends that don't have any issues with corruption. yeah. plenty of those and it can be part of the government. and the 2nd part of it is that we got the national, we'll have to remain convicted boy. and did he get the dedication towards prosecuting dose with corruption charges? one winner in this election is the malaysian islamic party, a partner in the national alliance. it's now the largest party in parliament by monday afternoon, malaysians should know who the new prime minister will be. the palace has issued the statesman asking leaders of the political parties with the most seats and heads of the major coalitions to nominate a lawmaker who they think is able to command the confidence of the majority in parliament. king also turned up to le, has had
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a hand in determining the prime minister before in 2020, after interviewing m peace, the monarch chosen really eaten yesterday. and when his administration collapsed a year later, the king chose a successful history. it seems, could repeat itself, florence greene, al jazeera, quite a little. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests from the capital qual and poor sophie lumiere is a political anthropologist. am a consultant, o e son is a senior fellow at singapore institute of international affairs. and tricia yo is chief executive of the institute for democracy and economic affairs. a warm welcome to you all and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. patricia, let me start with you today. so malaysia has its 1st hung parliament in its history . what happens now and what does this mean for the countries democracy? thank you for having me. so of this. absolutely right. it is the 1st time for
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malaysia to experience a home parliament after an election are not necessarily a home parliament ever. but what are the next steps from here on? it's very clear um, any leader of the parliament who is able to convince the angle or the king that he is able to form a government will be invited to form a government that has already been done in the last few hours. and the palace has also issued a statement as of today, calling for parties with a large number of seats to provide the names of the coalitions that will be formed, that they would like to form, as well as their prime ministerial candidate by 2 p. m to morrow, following which the algo would therefore decide on who has this coalition possibility of forming the government after that,
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it's basically office does go how, what does this mean formulators democracy essentially, you know, we saw the largest turn out of voters ever in malaysia's electro history with the 5800000 new voters, it was actually quite difficult to expect what the turnout would be. but it has, looks like, you know, people that come out in droves despite the rain in certain parts of the country. so, so there were some surprises in this election, but ultimately, if this can be resolved over the next 24 hours, what we would have is the form of political stability as much economic stability that the country really has needed over the last 4 years. so far i saw you reacting to some of what tricia was saying there, so i wanted to see if you wanted to jump in and also i want to ask you, i mean, what kind of timeline do you think we're going to see going forward when it comes to forming a coalition. well,
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the discussion are ongoing since last night. it has been pretty intense for every observer and even more for the politicians who are in the game right now. and we know that a few has been have been sidelined from the game. we had a few surprise and it's, it's that what made me smile when trisha was speaking. we did not expect, you know, this, this actually, this, well, we could call it a wave, you know, wave of support for these families party that gain, you know, an incredible number of seats compared to 2018. and, and i think that this show that, you know, the, the malaysian use, well, 1st time voters, actually we had for some voters as well, the war older, you know, so as i've been voting in mass for, for these time, it's friday, which is, which is a very interesting phenomenon, i mean, from outside of militia, that, of observer assume that you know, this younger elect trade would definitely be
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a more liberal one. so it's, it's very interesting to see that, you know, the voices, their opinion in a very different direction compared to what was expected by, by some people. let me ask you to elaborate a little bit on what sophie was talking about these games that were made by the islamic party in malaysia. does this mean that malaysians are increasingly voting along religious lines? well, malaysians have been voting along, religious and racial lines. seasons well, modern, timely memorial. right. and i think over the last few years you have seen the, for example, none malays mom low teen for the reform side of the original spectrum. wow. large portion also conservative malay voters would prefer at that time. um no. and by a lesser extent for this islam is past party, now we are essentially seeing a reverse of preference solve this conservative malay voters. namely the 1st choice
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is passed party and perhaps a 2nd choice would be the more racial least or no party. well, moving forward, i think as this past party gains more inference throughout and insulin, malaysia, we are likely to see more seats falling to their hands in for future actions as well. already we are seeing, for example, yet another state, a state of police in extreme, not a malaysia now falling into the hands of this past party. and they are also making that ways to the west and the south, off and in solar, malaysia, tricia from your perspective were the results in any way
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a surprise. and so i think just before the election, there were a lot of different pulling company. if that came out with their expected outcomes for me, there were 2 things that were not surprising. first we knew that our lease, i expected that there would not be any single coalition able to pass the simple majority required to form a government. that much has happened. so how parliament was very much expected. so there was no surprise on the 2nd thing was what we're seeing now, which is the active negotiation taking place where a coalition government, basically a coalition of coalitions is in the works where because no one collision can form government the negotiations have had to take place of seeking out collisions from other parts of the dra graphical regions of malaysia essentially, and ease malaysia saw bias robots. so the 2nd thing that also no surprise, i think,
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as has already been stated in this interview so far past that is bombing party, the performance of pass. that was probably the most major surprise. i expected them to do very well in the smaller rural states, off the north and the east coast of peninsula malaysia, which they have done well in. but i think to sweep the lion's share off the seats. so now they are the single largest party in parliament. after $222.00 seats. they have, you know, 4449. i think different according to the calculations, but basically they are the lion's share holder of seats. what does this mean? essentially the i here to stay. i think there are very different reasons why the malay electric chose to go with this coalition. and we don't know enough information at this point, but i can just, you know, suffice to say that number one, they were unhappy with the ruling berries and national collision, or the,
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i'm no coalition. the less racialized one that isa pointed out. and it wasn't alternative for them, and i think this trend is something that in other, within countries around the world, right? so if you don't want to go with the current version of a party, the other alternative would be the slamming version. and that's what we seen. so that's one that's clear. the 2nd thing, of course, is the rise of this conservatism. and i don't know that we have enough information that indicate to us i chose that part because of that reason. i think that is what the speculation is at the moment. it's very easy to make those generalizations, but i think, yeah, we can like what the detail reasons were for people being motivated to vote along that one. tricia was talking there about having to essentially form a coalition of coalitions. and she was talking about the fact that the key to the
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formation of any government is going to be states like and sorrow walk. and i want to ask you a little bit about that. i mean, either states that have long sought to have greater influence at the federal level, correct? yeah, i happened to be from the state of about myself or indeed you would see that the politicians that use malaysian states, they would often make up the case for more autonomy for more devolution of powers to do this malaysian state, to the extent that they would like more share saw, for example, the countries revenues for the development and so on. while i think there is a need for more developments in this lease, develop states of malaysia. on the other hand, i think when it comes to political calculations such as the, the political parties of coalition or c from this is malaysia. the states
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would join which particular major west malaysian coalition. i think a calculation. it's very marcher, made more on, for example, the vested interest of the politicians in ra, much more than, for example, to improve the likelihood of the people that you sophie, obviously, you know, all kinds of horse trading in negotiations have already started in malaysia. i guess what i'm curious about is does the result of this election mean that parties that were usually considered junior parties or not so important parties are they now becoming the king makers? well, independent, who were calling junior 8 percent to he's a really young party and, and you know, we, they're taking a leadership role in this negotiation because they are deleting forcing piano even if they don't have the highest number of seat. then we're looking at moodle,
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which is one of the very young party and they are definitely not, not a very strong force page long as one of the youngest 5 years will only it was just wiped out so. so we have new coalition, as for sure, we have a very different kind of we had a shift out of shift and, and a fragmentation of the political scene that we know we've seen but, but there is kind of a we recycling of, you know, the role of the game and, and the actors and any sweats. very interesting. we have, we're a change of power dynamic are vis, visit action. really sure. the strong rejection of, i'm know, or at least of a fair in one of the faction, you know? no, it, it shows as well that you know, caroline has not been doing really well during this election. if ph has a very high number of seed, we should remember these thanks to the appears. well, so, so we have, i think the end of, of a narrow my especially for,
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i'm know for our mohammed, my height here as well. and for a few very big leaders. so. so we daffy turning a peach. there is, there is a new dynamic sites on that. we need to analyze our father once we're going to have more detail on the results. i'm sorry to interrupt you, but, but i am curious to follow up with you about the point you were making about some of the sharks and, and you did mention a former prime minister monitor mohammed, the fact that he lost his parliamentary seat. he's 97 years old. he's one of his most enduring politicians. this was his 1st electoral defeat in more than half a century. how shocking was that? very shocking. as so i had the opportunity to follow my head here doing his 2018 campaign or for my book and i did. i was in long how we until the last jeremiah in ours last night in his office as well. uh for the results. ah, so it is, it is shocking. it is striking for esteem is shocking for him. ah, so a lot of people didn't, i expect that he would be doing so poorly. ah, we could see that there were, there was a change of,
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of wave in long cow we definitely, a lot of young people are even if they still do have, you know, a lot of respect for its kind of very strong father figure are the age was was a very strong factor, as enduring covina, as well as parliamentary office in lanka. we did not do so well in supporting our people. evelyn coey, so that, that really played a lot in a vis results or so again, at the end of an era it's, i mean now is, is not in the scene anymore. my, my trauma is no longer there. a lot of people are calling for is i hate to resign. this might be as well. one of the, maybe the last, you know, last time that i noise is running for a pm position. so, so we are seeing that can you generate generation coming up and it's, it's actually very interesting. trisha, i saw you nodding along to some wood. so if you were saying so it looks like you wanted to jump in. so please go ahead. well, i know, i think ideas issued
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a statement today and be pretty much said the same things that there is a new generation of fresh basis if the parties especially i'm know, we're in need of transformation. and before this election, the results of this election just show how much more internal transformation is needed, not just for i'm not across the board. so there is a greater demand. i mean, the fact that we have so many new voters, the kinds of messages and the narrative that need to get out to reach the young voters. i mean, the reality is that politics and militia to day are still very much politics off malaysia say 10 years ago, 20 years ago. you've been on the kinds of leader as a potential leaders, as potential prime minister. our positions are the same names that have been in circulation for a very long time. so,
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so you know that there will be increasing demand for this sense on renewal. i think it's going to happen for, i'm know, in particular, i mean if we talk about that for a little bit, not to law, not too long ago, they were the dominant party at the 20182018 was the poorest showing. and then this time in 2022, it is again, the poorest going in history are both on national as a whole. you know, with only that he sees really quite dismal, are not yet decimated, you know, sufficient to be able to negotiate and form a block in government that's in play at the moment. both, you know, the pretty got on national and the packet on her edition that got the largest number of seats as collisions are, are actively trying to get ice on national, on their side. because 30 seats can really sway them 11 way or the other. so we will know by tomorrow, but i think the point here is that with new faces in the game and also
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forming of the way in which politics is done in the country. i think that's a lot to think about. and i do hope that this is an opportunity for whichever gl government it's power to really think the entire rules of the game. so to think about ways to incentivize younger people, to come in professionals and have, you know, reforms that are so crucial to strengthen our parliament. for example, there's so much to be done. and i do hope that this opportunity is just not lost by the farming government you son. if onward ibrahim is able to get the support that he needs to become prime minister. now, how remarkable a political comeback would that be? well annoy abraham has been trained to be the prime minister for quite a number of years, i think according to my car and this 30 years, s not been very successful in doing so. but of course,
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in the process years ex spouse, a lot of these ideas and policies for reforming the country and so on. most of them are very positive and i think a lot of voters, of course, those who voted for him and use coalition. they're looking forward to these policies being finally implemented. but as things are getting under way for forming coalitions, it would appear that there is a coalition led by bursa to and, and this is let me pass body a look that perhaps to that next government and such a coalition would almost inevitably be dominated by islam is passed party because they have the most number of seats in parliament even though nominally was still be the prime minister. well, for a 2nd term, and we'll look at again,
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examples from many other such countries that immediately turn key would come to mind such a dominance by miss party. typically the country would sort of be generate into easily broad democracy if a democracy at all. so for a couple minutes, let me just ask you, what were the main issues that voters were concerned about in this election? and also the fact that voter turnout was so high and that there were so many young voters in particular. what does that say to you? about the state of democracy in malaysia. well, i think there is a very strong anxiety in our, among that asians are, as it is on around the world, you know, to pasco, v recovery context. economy was definitely, you know, what plays a very big role in this campaign out what it, what it means for democracy. well, you know, i mean we, we had a very high turn out and we have the result of what democracy is. so there is this
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new wave of, you know, opinion being expressed there is this as well, new demands as tricia explained really well. and so we, we have a landscape that is fully changing. we have new demands, higher expectations. the results for sure my be surprising, but you know, we might as well see maybe in his famous party was gonna normalize itself being always new responsibility in this coalition. so i think there is a lot a lot to be seen and, and we'll see what it mean for democracy. once the government is, is being formed. i would wish that, you know, ph could accept or be invited to form a government. and then we would have something very stable, but i'm not sure that this is going to work. egos are underway in the way. and so we just very quickly, we have less than a minute a do you think that there's a chance that malaysia's political landscape becomes less fractured now? no i think it's it's going to be it's gonna take a while and this reconfiguration is, it is really gonna take time and it's i seen
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a lot of people are a little bit hammered by the result, including the politicians are and you know, the discussion are going very strong and we might see, you know, some new coalitions and new friends she being created. we have a few independent speak independent as well, who could actually join some of the coalition despite the load that it was put in place. you can still, you know, like independent candidate can, it can be friendly to certain coalition to be 1st that and power dynamics so, so we might have a few more, you know, change and, and, and movement in the next few weeks. so, you know, we need to keep an eye on, on that. all right, well, we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much for all of our guests. so feel amir o e son and trisha jo. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash e j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle as at e,
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