over as anna was saying, they're worried about the future of the company. he clearly wants to slim twist a damn to a sketch and stuff, and then build it up again to meet his patients. the problem is it looks, sex, become more of a social media boxing ring. i'm a code scare off appetizers. so he's got to face the very tricky, tight wall wrote to walk because he needs to keep appetizers on board yet also make the platform repeating enough to track more uses. i reached out to twitter to try to get some more information, but have not heard back. probably because the entire twitter media relations department, it's believe has either been fired or laid off. unnecessary optimist spacecraft has reached the moon's orbit. the ryan capital swept 130 kilometers above the moon on approach and when now continue a larger orbit for 3 weeks. the spacecraft flew over the landing sites of apollo

$1112.14 as it made the initial approach. now astronauts are on board as it's a test flight. ah, it says, these are the top stories rescue teams in indonesia, west java province. a searching for survivors of a powerful earthquake, the killed at least 162 people. hundreds were injured in the quake. sense it on a rule area south of the capital jakarta. turkey as president says he is considering launching a ground offensive in northern syria. it's off to a rocket attack. they kill 3 people in southern turkey, in which anchor blames on kurdish y p g fighters in serial. turkish forces carried out air strikes, targeting the group over the weekend after a bomb attack in the stem bull last week. the un security council is condemned.

north korea's most recent missile tech for the 2nd time young young fight an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching as far as the us $63.00 times this year, the dpr k has shown an utter disregard for the safety and security of the region and a complete lack of respect to this counsel, but the dpr k continues to not respond and instead chooses to continue its reckless behavior. the council must instead respond that he should in the 3rd, the escalation of sanctions against the dpr. k already goes beyond measures to counter prohibited miss allan nuclear programs and threatens north korean citizens with unacceptable. socio economic and humanitarian up hazel. iranian security forces have intensified a crackdown in the west in the kurdish populated regions as anti government protest . and to the 3rd month, right, schools say

a dozen people have been killed in 24 hours. a top south african court has ruled medical pro granted to former president, jacob's who is unlawful, and he should be returned to prison. zoom was sentenced to 15 months for contempt of court is released on medical role after 2 months. those are the headlines were back in half an hour inside stories next. ah. another cop. another failure to save the planet, the 27th edition of the un conferences of parties ended with no agreement to curb emissions. but a deal was agreed on climate damage and loss. one is that enough and these

conferences serve any purpose. this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much of job for the 1st time members of the united nations climate conference have agreed to compensate poorer nations hit hardest by climate change. delegates from low income country say they're optimistic that's despite no agreements being reached on where the money will come from, nor how it will be distributed. there were also no no commitments on curbing greenhouse gas emissions. and while there is optimism, some nations left egypt saying not enough progress was made. we'll begin our discussion in a moment. but 1st, let's listen to what some leaders had to say. we recognize that there have been indications of a disappointment in certain courses who have

a higher degree of ambition. but that disappointment, i think, should be put in context. i think the level of ambition of all of the parties is equal. so it is, i think, important during the year of presidency until we hand over to the merits. i will be an advocate for the preservation of the $1.00 for the increase of all ambition within the capabilities that are available. cop 27 concludes with much homework and little time. we are already off way between the various credit agreements and the 2030 deadline. we need all hands on deck to that. i've just this and then vision. and he's also includes the ambition to the suicidal water nature that he's feeling, the climate prizes. the european union came here to get strong language agreed,

and we are disappointed. we didn't achieve this. i strongly urge us all to roll up our sleeves and show to the world that the fight for ambition for a better future is not yet over. 2 year nurses. valley this year is the 1st year of the implementation. details of the paris agreement were agreed and also marks the 30th anniversary of the signing of the united nations framework convention on climate change. therefore, egypt has said the theme of this conference as delivering to stress implementation and that all parties need to deliver on their promises more. egypt is also a developing nation. this year's cod conference is held in a developing country, reached an achievement in the establishment of the loss and damage fund that it could be seen as a highlight. the conference also decided to establish a global adapt asian framework. these are all strongly urged by developing countries. ah. all right,

let's go ahead and bring in our guests from brussels. kiara martinelli, climate action network, europe director from nairobi up the i to a former minister of planning in somalia and a former senior un official. and from keel in the u. k. sharon george senior lecturer in environmental sustainability and green technology at kil university. a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us today on inside story. i'll be let me start with you today. just how significant is it that this loss and damage fund was set up during comp 27 and and, and do you think that it actually will help developing nations cope with climate change going forward? there is no question that the setup of this one is a tremendous progress when you look at the totality of the efforts that have been made over the last many years and in relation to the climate prices there. but we

need to remember that this is only a fund that. ready is no money in it just for now. i'm probably not for another year or so while the committee works on the details, that's number one. but more importantly, i think the fun when and if it goes. ready on an operational, it is supposed to help developing countries to try to mitigate the climate crisis flooding droughts, a famine in this part of the wall in the horn of africa. it's supposed to do that in theory, but a lot of the details are, are not there yet. so we'll have to wait until the committee actually finishes its work in about a year time. the loan just follow up because the fact the matter is, as you said, there is no money in this fund yet. essentially, this is a bucket that was set up and the bucket is still empty and there have been other times it in the last 10 years or so when funds were set up. i believe there was an

adaptation fund where a poor nation developing countries were supposed to get a $100000000000.00 a year, and i don't believe they're getting anywhere near that. if anything at all. i mean, is there any sense of when these funds might start being available to the countries? well, it's very difficult to imagine that this fun will receive the amount of money that it was supposed to be receiving. considering the fact that a lot of these countries, the big emitter is, for example, the united states and other big countries are democracies and their power of the 1st reckless with congress. for example, india. that we know that by the net ministration will face a divided congress for the next 2 years. so with the republicans in charge of the lower house of the congress, i can foresee them approving money for the united nation fun. and they've already criticized the same can be said of our other western democracy. so i think, you know, it's always expected out of the international conferences to lay out very lofty

goals and ultimately fall significantly shorter them. and i think unfortunately it sounds like, you know, the mobile, i don't want to preclude the possibility of actually it's being worked out quite ridiculous me share and i saw you reacting to some of what i was saying there. so i'm going to let you jump in but, but i also want to ask you from your perspective, was enough accomplished at cop 27? no. any or no, not. not in terms of what was seen with climate change. now. you know, you can lie, can they say, you know, a floating top fluid in the flow and all this is doing is it's kind of mocking all the damage that's been caused. it's not really put enough investment into what's going to happen. and what we're seeing is this, this kind of roving situation, climate change becoming worse, i mean, will become one of the emissions where the bath and not enough have been that in

terms of planning for the future. we just kind of mitigating against what has happened and just kind of invest, you know, keeping in touch that to keep carrying on doing what we're doing. and so we've business as usual case, and i think a lot more agency needs to be done right now, especially to affect those, those countries that are, you know, that kind of lose all ability to live where they live it is religion, say a more fun game right now, but for people that are affected right now, if i could get your thoughts on, on comp, 27 from your perspective, what were some of its successes and what were some of the failures? yes, i think one of the major success and i think we do need to celebrate is that the mentor of all countries to finally with poor countries request to create a found or lesson damage. and i think this is important to recognise, even if,

as we have been seen like that are, there is a lot of work to be done in terms of to, to make it open. but i think it's important politically that all the countries agreed to in africa to deliver on less than demo finance. and i think it needs to be to be, to be life. of course, we are worried about the full work and movies keep our precious pressure. make sure that these find the get to all the press to do that proceed procedure on the teeth that are needed to make that is still pollution on the carpet next year. and i think it's important to see that of course, to be due as a society from over the world to be do the colonize these or so as any buckets access over the validation that sees society. i've been doing it on the last and there are financial procedures try to do it here. and overall a do equity or so that is comp $27.00. again,

the phase the on the evening and in the evening enough concrete stepped forward to try this. declare my cries is that the, that we are facing today. and if he could, this is again to me. so pertaining to be do need to do some needs, natalie to confirm commitments, but actually to, to buy iowa and i are in terms of the target and in terms of financial, the engagement and commitment to across the dual globe. sharon, i saw you nodding along, i want to give you an opportunity to, to add to the point she was making if you'd like. yeah. can you eat not just, you know, it's not just about that, but kind of fun. jane kind of emergency response funding is about putting vestments, but teachers are making the equitable a make not fat and an accessible. and that's going to be a challenge to do it, to speed that we need to do. and in the me, in the meantime, you know, we got by diversity and 44 will lose. same species with climate change

has a bigger impact than just the can all make. and at the moment, we will still investing around the world and fossil fuels. and the copyright we've talked about billions of pounds and age to how combat climate change that we're also spending money on combats, it is not working the other way with fossil fuels and that we need to really take their serious at carpet. * carson, real and leadership role to take us forward and in this respect nothing we, we just not quite there and we need that that focus and that one place gladly if we're going to make it, we're going to take seriously abdi, you know, we were speaking earlier about the fact that there is still a lot of decisions to be made even when it comes to setting up this loss and damage funding. and it seems as though the negotiators, those that were present a cup 27,

have essentially kicked the can down the road and said the things will most likely be decided next year before cop 28. at least some of the more difficult decisions i want to ask you, what are some of the more difficult decisions i'm asking that because clearly it was very difficult even getting to this point. so what, beyond this point is even more difficult that it couldn't be agreed to this year. well, a number of things are, 1st of all, in the amount of money that needs to go into the fun needs to be determined and where would it come from? i mean, we know that the 20 largest economies around the world are responsible for about roughly 80 percent of greenhouse gas emissions. and so, and we also know this is a very unique situation. china, which is currently probably the largest emitter of greenhouse gas emissions, is in fact considered and classified by the u. n. as a developing countries,

not as a developed country. and so when you are classified like that, but you are a large emitter of greenhouse gases, you know, how much are you going to contribute? those are some of the details that need to be worked out. but also, you know, lawson damage also entails inherently liability. and some of the big countries, like the u. s. are avoiding to be in a situation where they're trapped in some sort of a legal liability, perpetual legal liabilities for greenhouse gas emissions. so it is going to be quite complex before we arrive at a, at a sensible fun and even then, i think it'll be a much less than what people have in mind today. here sharon was talking about what's really needed right now from her perspective is for the world to speak with one voice when it comes to action that that really needs to be taken to combat climate change going forward. that being said, you know, cop 27 there was a lot riding on that. and yet still you see that there were

a lot of divisions among the participating nations. so have cop gatherings actually served much of a purpose over the years. i mean, they have they been able to accomplish much since they started holding them decades ago? no, i mean i think a desk knocking out for the 8th day and say, but if we also needed to i like that and point out that we don't have an alternative. so what we have today is the state, the only stays where all countries poor and each count is beacon, big polluters and the ones most impacted by cannot change, can beef it on one table and take decisions a to move forward. so i think and not enough is my short answer, but the same time, this is the states we should protect and we should the strength and actually to make sure that come with action is faster. and really in as winning to the urgency, we see, i think that the way we needed to do that is a to exactly what we were thing was the chairman shake to make sure that this phase,

the leader to the seasons, across the 3 main p less of the pace agreement, the other taishan clinic mitigation endless in them as and not putting one or the other peeling competition or towards one another. and also, i think the most important thing to make these the cops in the future is still relevant and impactful. is it protected that space from the facetious interest and meaning like ensuring better in this space, remain a democratic, remain in a lead led by governments and by delegates. and also ensuring that see the society as a voice in terms of making sure that the experience and expertise, but also the struggles of communities on the ground, are part of the conversation in order to influence the decision said that we wanted to see and coming out of these cops and sharon edge, how long have um, have poorer countries and developing countries been been seeking this kind of help

from, from richer countries and, and how big a, when you know, we can talk more about whether or not this money is actually put aside but just the fact that they got to this point how, how big a win is that are for the poor countries are and, and for the developing countries that they even got this well and $0.01, there's been a kind of admission that this needs to happen an agreement that to massive achievement, but looking back, you know, in, in direct ways climate change has been starting to have an impact quite slowly and, and, but also not just climate change. actually the impact of energy exploitation energy. the energy market has, you know, it has had an impact internationally on some nations more than others and we've called complex issues around things like, you know, deforestation losses the amazon and massively complicated issues around i would

need for energy coupled with economic complexity complex t around a countries here needs to develop income, so it's a complex picture and, and in that mix as well, you've got people with different social positions within that, those economies. and so you know that, that, that's a very tricky question to answer. but i think what, what is needed? i think one of the things that hasn't really been addressed in any of the cops is anything like the accountability that we need that way as a consequence, if, if, if nothing happens, then nothing happens. and there is no consequence for the economy that can come down the road. so i think what would be nice to say is, is more accountability and consequence for those nations that don't pull that collective way to, to address this problem. i think that is, you know,

that's something i think needs to be embedded in future cops to, to really capture specific, talking and share. and let me just ask when it comes to the kind of pressure that activists and that in joe's were able to put on the participants in, in cop 27. what was that different this year than it has been in previous years? i think so. i think that's a real sense of urgency and, and, and you know, that in terms of public voice and the voice of those, those organizations that are doing the campaigning. i think this a real frustration that's coming through of the lack of urgency and the lack of action. i don't think that some find nothing. that voice is going to become louder . and i think that's something we're quick. you know, if people are not really listen to and they protest and they campaign,

and i think that's something that we're going to law off until the things start to really change care. i saw reacting quite a bit to what sharon was saying. so i wanted to see if you'd like to jump in. yeah, i totally agree. i think the device self see society not to be the was quite strong or dis copper for even with the little presence that be added at the venue. but i think what is important, a light is that is advice that is getting stronger and stronger across the globe. so it's not all in one country or denied or so and visiting would be extremely important as a voice to be supported, especially in that on up to the next copper to make sure that was, that is the and the season and the loss in them as font is a quickly taken a, as in, with all the steps that are needed to make a dental professional. and i also think that that is, is it something we need to think through more as the see the societal transition or

now to link up all this pressure to the pressure that intern everyone is doing any, any their own country? because i think in accountability as a, as sharon said, this is the key for this, for the improvement of this process. but also monitoring and monitoring diseases and monitoring without the steps that have been and been taken off. the pledges that has been done a let me allow me to mention as an example that many european countries in put forward some financial pledges for loss or damage. in the 1st week of the call, i think that the debt had to for sure to align, and i did the de season on the, on the lawson demos fund. but now we need to make sure that these finance these, the financial commitment is the additional and is the well well tunnel to the right procedures and the light right schemes to make that operational. abby: one of the more unexpected things that happened while kept when someone was going

on was the announcement by the u. s. and china that they were going to resume cooperating when it came to try to talk about our climate change and, and other issues. um, from your perspective, did that give more momentum to what was going on a cop 27th? did that help some of these processes along there is no question about that. us and china are the 2 largest economy. and by definition, they are also the 2 largest emitters of greenhouse gas emissions to this day. and so they are cooperation protocols for the success of op, $27.00, and this whole sort of environmental process. but mom and i think we need to remind ourselves that the overarching object. ready of the international dialogue around environment is to reach the 1.5 degrees celsius pre industrial level of you know, in terms of the emissions. now the, the commitment to that objective remains incredibly, even after decades of,

of negotiations. a lot of countries are willing to do it, but my colleague that the monitoring of aspect of it remains incredibly big and more importantly, a lot of western countries are seeing the resurgence of fire fire. right. politicians are actually also climate deny or is, i mean, they don't even believe that we are sprinting into climate crises beat in the us or western europe and so on and so forth. and i suspect that unfortunately, that new reality will have an adverse impact on the negotiations in the coming years, especially as many more, right. politicians come to power in western democracies. sharon was just talking there about the goal of keeping global warming to 1.5 degrees celsius above pre industrial levels based on, on what you saw coming out of of comp 27. is that something that is still achievable and also, you know, there had been

a recommitment that the globe needs to cut greenhouse gas emissions nearly and a half by 2030. do you think that that is something that is still achievable? thank it's really worrying, but we're still seeing investment in fossil fuels of what these massively and by target didn't matter. we have to cut c l 2 by i didn't think given current progress and climate change is already here. now i don't think it's retrievable. if we just carry on businesses, no, not even with the targets that we have with that. well miss, you're going to miss that target massively. so i think we need investment and technology does not just cawthon, c, a carpet negative. you know, we need to be, we proactive about that and that's a huge step forward. and over the book, what's already been promised. so, you know, just just an acceleration in terms of the targets that we have is not enough. so, you know, i think this brings together the power reports i p c. c, where the,

the scientific community can gather and present the evidence to independence, those decisions. but i think would be all now thinking in terms of just economic terms. i think if we think about climate change, just economically and, and keep pushing the come down the road on economic decisions. and as you say with these politicians who are coming on goal to and not on board with the agency seriousness we need to any, you know, it's very easy to know these impacts when we don't need much flooding or we don't see the extremes in the way that the nation state. ready it's easy to deny, i think, where we are all going to have to have things like more disclose and i would culture and costs and imports and exports and, and also human migration is going to see rise. and so, you know,

it's ways we are very serious situation. all right, well, we have run out of time. we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests. kara marinelli, d i n t and sharon george. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a j inside story for me. mm hm. mm hm. jerome, the whole team here doha bye for now. ah, ah.

a new series follows from 6 countries hoping to make it to canada. 2022. my dinning was to be a basketball player in the world. now at each year. the next episode meets 3 won't come hopeful, sprawl, me around by sacrifice a love seat. a lot of days before my family. i wouldn't do that to play worked up the world cup, dream iran on al jazeera the u. s. is always of interest to people. all right, the world people pay attention to what with on here, and i did, he was very good at bringing the news to the world. from here, al jazeera well peers into the murky world of state sponsored spyware. and the discovery by al jazeera journalists, it's 0 pick technology attacks that smartphone every sister can be. is this the

new frontier espionage think about the sophistication of exports to breaking the phones? this is as good as it gets this high and you're on al jazeera, the latest news, as it breaks the banks, he has come to a place like borrowed the anchor. isn't a great surprise in the context of some of his previous work, but it is of course, a big surprise to the people who live here with detail coverage. taurus are coming here in increasing numbers with this isn't just about business politics or for half of what's going on here from around the world. this is the 3, that's what the thousands of hector, the farmland here in oklahoma. several mining companies are around this area. ah hello i'm has him see get in the.