school needed the most. the aid sector is suffering the knob on effects of last year's military take over. some agencies have been forced to scale back relief program as the result of funding cuts and has for a long conflict in parts of the country forces more families to flee their homes. the number of those in need has increased, but humanitarian groups day there is no way to access them. fighting has cut off many and remote areas with no secure paths to get a to them. and since the takeover t real to dance transition to democracy, some donors have reduced humanitarian assistance assistance that helped as heavy a juma get her 4 year old twin daughters out of malnutrition when she started visiting this center, iraq little at that one that i me, i had the one it tells me i come here every week to get nutritional food that they give to children. it has helped them a lot. the health has improved uneasily. masada organizations such as the world food program say more needs to be done to help those in need much us. yes.

funding has reduced quite thomas. some of the door knows how steptoe they've been able to meet our critical groups. it's just that the needs keep increasing. more aid is expected to arrive, but not until next year. and their fears, the number of people in need of support will have risen by then. he bo morgan, alta 0, or to dam. ah, this is al jazeera, these, you top stories, an explosion at a bus station in west jerusalem has killed at least one person, an injured several, others. a 2nd explosion, 2 kilometers away, injured. 3 people, as rarely please say was a joint coordinated attack. cool weather is hampering rescue efforts and

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and some powerful nations seemed powerless to prevent the bloodshed. this is inside story. ah, ah, ah. hello to welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. i renewed offensive by m. 23 fighters in the eastern democratic republic of congo has forced hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. there are reports of extra judicial killings, torture and rape. the rebel group has ignored international appeals for a cease fire that is now marching on goma. the regional capital, the conflict is pitted the governments of the democratic republic of congo and neighboring lawanda against each other. you and investigators have found evidence that anyone does military is supporting m 23 fighters from gama. his malcolm web.

the more than 200000 people have run away from the 23 armed group as it's advanced in east, in democratic republic of congo. so the local, so just started removing their guns that were in front of our home and to send them away. this is why we decided to leave and 23 widely understood to be backed by rwanda. gun has also been accused of providing support. those governments deny it. un peacekeepers filmed 500 fighters entering congo from rwanda earlier this year. when the soldiers have been photographed in areas held by him, 23. the helmets have distinct plastic mounds for equipment. the same as those worn by some m. 23 fighters seen in this video released by the armed group kong as forces of last ground to m. 23 in recent weeks. east african leaders are holding talks, has been fighting to the north of here, further down this road in the area that along the border with rwanda,

which is just a few kilometers over there. a lot of the population from the towns where there's been fighting has fled this way into the city of go my, where tens of thousands of people staying in camps. people waiting to see if the heightened plastic activity is actually going to change anything on the ground. people have demonstrated in cities across congo in recent months, against the you can, the president, you are in the 71 than president polk, gummy, they blame for decades of military aggression. and congo campaign is say, the international community needs to help me of a couple of years. i didn't, we don't have confidence in the east africa community to bring peace. we can never expect government to back down and withdraw. economic and military sanctions need to be imposed on wonder because it depends on funding from other countries. earlier this year, the u. k. pedro under about a $160000000.00 to receive deported asylum seekers. after decades of

animosity, france and rwanda restored relations last year and french president emanuel micron promised half a 1000000000 years of 8 tens of thousands of people of enforced into insanity camps . the u. s. is expressed concern over one, those involvement the u. n. u k. in france, have condemned them 23, but they haven't said who's backing the grid for you care. we know that the have this deal. we've, we've veranda. there is also france. we've always been involved. we've, we've run day and the can be a buyer to take time for the right decision which should be to make sure that's all d. c is stopped. rwandan soldiers fighting insurgents in northern mozambique, where french oil john, tow town, has a $20000000000.00 gas project. they were the same helmets as some m. 23 fighters.

9 years ago, connelly's force is defeated, them $23.00, and it's fighters fled to wonder. and uganda, that time congo had international military support. and the u. s. and other countries blocked military a to rhonda this time, people here awaiting to see if politicians from this region and beyond the what needed to bring peace and let them go home. malcolm web for inside story was malcolm mentioned in that report the u. s. embassy along with the invoice, belgium, france of the u. k. have issued a statement calling on the m 232, immediately withdraw and end the acts that violate an international law and to see so still it is, but that statement stopped short of accusing any countries of backing the rebels. but the humanitarian crisis in the democratic republic of congo is worsening and spilling across its borders. the un estimates that at least 280000 people have been forced from their homes since march. at least 7000 of crossed into uganda. since

october. children are disproportionately affected, more than a 100, have been separated from their families in areas where fighting is taking place. ah, that's bringing our guests for today's discussion from kinshasa, which went by fred bama. he is the executive director of abu tele a kali's institute for research on politics, governance and violence from liberal mercy. we're joined by angel the congress at am gonna the you and refugee agency representative in the democratic republic of congo and from london, which went by michaela wrong. a journalist on the author of do not disturb the story of a political murder at an african regime. gone bad. fred, we'll start with you. who is supporting the m 23 in that he r c. and why? thank you very much inviting me and so on this case

from what you know, i'm from especially the, when the last group of experts, both dentistry has been supported by rwanda, mentally since the beginning of the separation and the back to end of 2021. we know also from many people in the region that at some point we're not uganda and 33. now it is important to mention that the support of rwanda on interest to the new m to if we remind people how to enter the feedback in 2013 was also backed by rhonda. and then we saw many countries mobilize with special mulanda, which we don't really see. but frankly, i'm sorry to interrupt you. bought evidence. is there to suggest that when that is

backing in 23 at the moment when rwanda is saying that it isn't so many evidence is from food ted, from drawing on by the un mission india middle school. there is also a round in ministry where around to the one of the best you can we could go back in new to who testified to see me at many, many times from rhonda thing to go that i think the reality of support of run doesn't go to entity free is known by many people, almost every people in, in the region. and i know for sure that many embassies with an embassies in other countries, african embassy, didn't know clearly that around doubt and some extent uganda in terms of free. and

it's not out of your and that's why i'm not calling out wonder angela will come to you just a moment to talk about the humanitarian situation. but 1st, at mckellar in london, why won't rwanda admit that there? supporting the rebels in the d. r c. and, and what's of interest to rwanda in the democratic republic of congo? why? but it want to destabilize the region? well, this is a game that ruins has been playing since 1996 when it's supported to rebel group f d l that crossed into until it was the democratic republic of congo. to break up the camps, refugees, of who to extreme refugees. members of the former army that were camping in it, and that, of course, that rebel group ended up toppling movies. i think, the president of the day. so ever since then, really you've seen the history of rwanda in the southern parts in q and uganda for

the to the north booth regarding it really as i prerogative to go into democratic republic of congo, which is a country like the security forces, have a real problem an existing control and using as i play grounds, doing as they wish that controlling the local politics. and also i bring up the mineral resources, are lately large scale smuggling of all the precious metals that we know are in, in there. so it's got a lot of interest in that it likes to be seen as a player. and i think what we're seeing behind this new push that really just materialize fairly recently, is a feeling a in rural, on reminders that it was being beaten in this game. by it's right, whole uganda, uganda, back last year, signed a deal with contrast to build roads infrastructure

in, in eastern d, r c to help d r c to export it's minerals. and so it would allow uganda to crack down on the adf, which is a local rebel group. so i think that there was a feeling in rwanda. oh goodness, uganda and dfcs getting very polly, all of a sudden that's our area that's, that's our playground. that's all that. and we do to be today spy. all right, well you gotta, this is, this is, you know, we are the key player in, in the great lakes. and if anyone's going to in some condos, it's off that i think that's probably the motivation not very attractive, because we were hearing of a few moments ago that has been some criticism of rwanda from the un, the u. k. front of the us. perhaps it's been a little more explicit in it's criticism, but nobody's doing anything. why? when you reported it to earlier,

there are also reasons why the same group of western donors to support rwanda. they think of it considerable amounts of aids every year. and they managed to pull back only 810 years ago and, and rwanda accordingly on uganda. ford and heard that signal and i'm scaled back. i support for them. 23. when it was terrorizing easton, the congo. there's a reason why a lot of this house nowadays, i'm just not interested. firstly, they're all distracted by ukraine, which is my main preoccupation, the one ukraine. but secondly, if you look at france, france has gone from being very hostile towards the, the regime in kigali to be a best friend. it's relying on rwandan troops to deal with the hardest rebels. and most i'm fee or it's got total, has these considerable gas interests. the british are completely compromised now by the attempt which is currently booked. but that project to export asylum

seekers who are unwanted here in britain, the whole idea was that they were going to the center wonder that's on hold but hasn't been cancelled as a project. so those are 2 key countries. key donors, which normally would be quite vocal in criticizing your lender and they've effectively been science. they're holding their tongues, they know perfectly well. what's going on. i, i speak to someone that has put those players and there's officials and they know perfectly well what's going on, but they don't want to say that leave the states and the states won't stay on good terms with kick. golly, because there is this emerging profile that rwanda enjoys being the policemen of africa, and there's a feeling that may be, you know, increasingly, rwandan peacekeepers may have to play a role in combating the hardest right in the south. hell. so why alienate rwanda? so everyone's playing it softly and resulting scenario, of course, is a convoluted to play the pay the price and do angel. what impact is,

is all of this having all the people who live yes, thank you. good afternoon. ah, the effects are disastrous. as you may know, be 522000 arrestees seeking asylum, or we're in a huge in com or t asti. as a, beside that we have 5600000 internally displaced colonies, talk less of the one media and all who have a sign up in the next. but in count pres on his team's march this year, we have more than 262000 persons who is pleased and new. and most of these are actually displays for many times and in the territory. busy model where you are,

the one is located. we have 128000 persons who ah, is this, this is a law yet, and not as a series of displacement. and i am glad to hear from the previous speaker that this whole all my, if i should say so, has begun almost 3 decades ago. and there is no that there has been no peace. and if i may say, regardless of who is behind this, i believe the most important thing is that the people here on ground need piece. ok, the need piece at long last in the meantime, i mean that there, but there is no, no peace or what's being done to care for these people, as you say, who've been displaced, some of them many, many times before. we indeed are many needs, but the people are again and again,

this is definitely are in dire need of center. my agency is the lead agency for the center cluster that you when and are, and he was we are trying to bring about that shelter, not to this as a piece where me it is that we need these and now many people are sitting and all the old site and in schools or are public or buildings. we need to take them to some shelter. we have been working with the local authority to get a seat belt for these people. and yet we got one which i understand. now the security might not be guaranteed on top of water, which is not found there. so really will be the humanitarian driving to bring about the basic needs, including shelter, water, clean water and, and on, of course be so many challenges for phase natalie's among them is continued

in security. that meeting needs the star, fred, uganda said on monday that is going to send a 1000 troops into the d. r. c to join the regional force which is fighting the rebels are tory, got hundreds of soldiers are under a separate agreement for what you are saying about uganda is involved in the conflict in the 1st place. a is the presence of, of uganda and force is gonna help or hinder the situation. so you're going to, going to join the not forgotten like the part of the community. and i have to pay for me with respect to you. there is, i have a lot of dollars on with. the 4th is all can be really effective in resolving the conflict. and in the knowing that many are countries in

both is own interested in maintaining some sort of security. so your grandma has already made it or is fighting me in results so far in the area we there is the evidence is breaking into the fees. i don't know how you guys can come and then to be fighting against. and so if we go through like mid to like, ronda would be in a, in part of the, of the 4th thing back in and $33.00 there is also they came on in the region so far . i think there is a couple of hundreds of community meetings and that it's very key with

by adding more and more and more choose without the nation that will lead to market in the states. i'm pretty wide at what people have so little faith in east african initiatives and, and peacekeepers, i mean, get, has to do on it. and as well as keeping like models going and i think it has to do with the years of coughing because i mentioned that piece has been going on for 4 years for 3 days. almost there is people who have been obliged to leave their how the dime for 5 i'm going to send region by group with the same b, n d. and by december of you know, group they have the models. we're on for 20 years. you've got the mean better and

then now is the i think you can understand the whole thing off of the board in the lab results of u. n. c. and also the confusion of being the 10 people who yesterday came using better come back coming back is it is a savior. lassie, by the visiting community ribbon in the region. and i think the people wanted to find a solution not only for on this stage of, of m to didn't phase little bit and but try to question, why is it possible but a group like it does, if we will keep recycling itself is up and probably not a question, but just put that question to the keller in just a moment,

as well as, as, as what she thinks of attempt to, to mediate piece. but 1st mckellar of the u. k. and france, protecting rwanda. well, they're protecting it with the silence under protecting it by becoming, you know, collaborators with rwanda and various other projects. for francis support, it's a, it's $82.00, you know, it's unveiled, it's major a to run de. depends on rwanda. full is peacekeepers. work in mozambique. it's got a lot invested in that total installation. britain is desperately hoping that rwanda, which is the most populated country in africa, is going to take all of these on one to design. and so it's, those countries are basically, you know, the complicit that they, they've been pilots because they are relying on the one that they have this completely hypocritical and anomalous situation in which

a country that is creating conflict union conflict is part of the conflict in east and conger, that just goes on and on and on, festering on and on for decades is being seen as a, as a peacekeeping policeman, elsewhere in africa, which, you know, these are 2 completely contradictory roles. but finally, the western house have signed up for the list for arrangement. so i think if, if, if for the internet community really wants to see and enter them 23, they would need to put the, their aide agreements with rewind on the table and make it clear that the aid was coming to an end. and what we saw 10 years ago when trying to 3 was devastating. honda is that when they did that in 23 stop being a problem pretty much overnight and it withdrew. you know, it was disbanded that we've seen repeatedly once. once the west uses it's weapons of leverage kind of factory, but it's not do without leverage. mikaela,

what are the prospects them for the these talks mediated by a girl as president of the russia jewel. for these reasons, are they going to achieve anything? it doesn't seem to me that looks at the issues, i mean, you know, who's talking to who i and, you know, we have all these sort of these discussions with who can. yes, i'm meeting rwanda. but people are still pretending that one does not involve in rwanda. still pretending it's not in vote. so i mean, there's a sort of lack of honesty about the whole situation. i think i think some, the leverage is going to be required. that's what's happened in the past. and, and in the meantime, we see, you know, the m $23.00 gradually heading towards goma. goma is going to be a big challenge for the i'm time free because it's why is it going to, it's dreamily on popular that we've seen this in the past is a huge amount of anti dirty sentiment. i'm mostly damn high street, made it so that you paint a pretty big picture,

maybe color for the for the moment. do you think that this does nothing to, to end this country? i need a pretty short answer from you here. yeah, i think the international community needs to wield a big, big stick on rwanda, and that it's being invited to attend meetings and could go me as being continues to be faced around europe and in the industrialized. no, if you cannot send out, these message is the same time. ok that we missed that it time is against us. many thanks indeed for being with us. for bama angel, the conga, i'm gonna and mckayla wrong. thank you for watching. don't forget, you can see the program again at any time just by going to the website at al jazeera dot com for further discussion. join us on our facebook page. you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story and you can join the conversation on twitter or handle a inside story for me, adrian finnegan and the team here. and oh,

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