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act or otherwise. the scottish parliament does not have the power to legislate for a referendum on scottish independence. i protested, the world's largest apple. i phone factory in china as turn violent work is protesting against unpaid wages and the impact of china. strict code 900 policy. but the headline news continues, i'll just 0 after the stream. we understand the different states, similarity of culture across the world. so no matter what, i'll just bring you the news and current affairs the matter to you. i'll just ah hi, anthony ok, welcome to the stream. you know, this is a show the often asked migrant asylum seekers. why would you leave your own home

and go in a perilous journey to a country much about and you not to show what your future might be. they were going to all sat question of patients in the past year 25000 at least hoping to portage from the us back to haiti. let me show you one of the most recent interdictions by the u. s. coast. got, it was just a few hours ago, the west coast guard found a vessel full of haitians. and this is what happened when they pulled them aboard. this is known as an interdiction in the last few weeks, i've been reporting for out his ears documentary say was 4 lines to find out why. so many haitians are not finding a welcome safety asylum. indian nighted states. net started with a trip i had with the u. s. coast. i'm just wondering why would i, you remember trying to be nice states. it was probably about a week ago, but i don't have sales that are like,

not professionally made it, but are so together. and the patients are usually backed onto the boat. the 1st time you had some odd, i had to take a look at myself of the beer and say, this is really difficult. like these people are just trying to have a better lives. ah, but you have to remind yourself that these are not always safe vessels and a lot of the times, but we find them, it's because they're alive. so what lies ahead patients to puerto, from the us here to help us discuss this, we have gerlene and jake, and with law. welcome to all 3 of you. get to have you on board gerlene. many people who work with haitians, m u. s. and overseas know their work very well. please introduce yourself to our viewers around the world. thank you so much for having me. my name is burley and joseph. i am the co founder in executive director of the haitian. we are lions the black immigrant fund and become an advocate network. what we work in focus with

people of african descent in migration, specifically from haiti, get to have ye. hello jake, welcome to the screen. please introduce yourself. thanks rob me for me. my name is jake johnson. i'm a senior research associate at the center for economic policy research in washington, and focus largely on 80 and u. s. policy. yet to have you and with law, nice to see you on the screen, please say hello to have you as around the world. hello everybody. my name is william miller. cool. i'm a journalist based in for the prince and the editor, and she for april. first, i also wrote so to washington post and to having all right, viewers, i know you're seeing scenes of haitian deportees trying to get to the us being taken back to haiti. what are your thoughts about this? is this an intractable problem? or can the be some very easy solutions? we would love you to be part of our conversation. could be right with us right now on youtube in the comment section. gillian,

i am thinking about the last time i think many of our audience would be thinking about haitians and haitians seeking safety and security. and that was just over a year ago, september 2021 on the border of the u. s. patti claim, who is one of our reporters, reported on scenes that were incredibly distressing to see. i just want to remind our audience the last time we really focused on haitians. let's have a look. yes, this. oh, these are the al jazeera pictures causing outreach. united states, oh, desperate and hungry. he should migrants trying to make it back to a makeshift camp with food and water met by force. good. 6 0 so then you, every one is going to remember those pictures. they were so shocking. but after

that, there's an even bigger story about how many haitians were deported. very, very quickly, out of the us, tell us more what we saw in those videos and pictures. so extremely disturbing, actually for the 1st time, last week i was able to speak with the gentleman you fall in the picture, the one that was being abused by the gentleman in uniform. and he went into the hell to explain what happened to him. and i couldn't stop crying because when he went into the tell to say what happens to him in how he felt that that moment he thought he was going to die. and he felt like he escaped an inter and his voice was disappeared. finally, and deported. he's still in hiding right now, because i for matthew or i've been have you the same people?

he fled once again after him. so what we saw in that we'll in 2021 is september of 20. 21 is the we ali see of black people in the us mexico border that we have been explaining for very long time in the way that the united states have been mis treating them in our region. and i can share with you that almost all of the people we saw on the wishing w i have been reported, have been expelled, close to 26, how been haitian of people, or patients that have been sent to a see. and then by been alone and we, i will be sharing that because of the same time within 2 months, we're able to receive in a welcome over 26000 people from ukraine, willie and then being the mistreatment of black people at the us mexico border

within the immigration system, so i want, i want to be very clear on this. they might think, well, united states has an order at the end of having the security code of irregular migration, the white house causes irregular migration. so why shouldn't they be sent back to haiti? but there are us laws and actually international laws about people being able to seek asylum. and none of these haitians were given the opportunity regardless of what happened to them on their way or back at home. jake? yeah, exactly right. i mean the authority that the administration used to undertake these deportations, these explosions was under a public health law called title 42, which is implemented by the trumpet ministration. and though it might be framed as a public health law is a back and way to enforce draconian and racist immigration policies by the chopped administration. the reality is that the binding stations simply continue to do that

. and the result of that is basically denying the right legal right to seek asylum on the behalf of these asian, of course, but also many other nationalities as well. jake, jake, thank you so much for that. i'm just going to bring in a story of a young man that i met when i was in haiti, he'd been deported from the us. he was running from violence. and i want you to hear and see a little bit of his story. because with, you know, i know you have so many more stories to share with us. but let's have a listen to jack festival. but jack is 26 years old. he used to live in port a prince, but he is now in hiding outside of the city. i believe in one day shall. he's afraid to return home because he says a local gang accused him of writing them out to the police. in this, it was, it wasn't got the demo demo, was he get a far one, a u r t i e,

your already know it b? yep. i mean, as a disabled fucker your package, when, when by like you idea says who might be up to revise the you the of the resume way for me with risk him se remembered the ave wyoming with bob while mom im got several minutes rural. they've been fair to been become deal with. you know, that's one reason for haitians wanting to leave haiti. what are the others? well, i hate. he is in the most difficult in a much difficult situation today. i think the other band in this, for the accounts when it comes to, you know, what happened to them when they cross the border of the us. but in haiti today, you have a very, extremely difficult situation of insecurity or, and, you know, thousands of people have been keeping them, you know, funder from,

from the past year. but this year also me many, many years. again, sessions will tell you, for instance, that the level of violence that we are seeing more than 100000 people know this is keep balance situation in 83 percent of them actually were displaced by, you know, again violence. you have clara in the country that resurfaced in october. we're about, you know, 200 people were killed by the disease now. and you have more than a 1000 actually close to 2000 of infections. you have, you know, i said something about hunger situation, which is a silly concerning because you have a lot of people actually more than half of the country, close to half of the country in a situation when you took all of these things, you took the insecurity to declare the question that people will try to leave and

they are fleeing a situation that is in part caused by us fallacy. we can talk about the gun situation in 80, where you have, according to the justice department, the most guns that are retrieving crimes in haiti come from the u. s. and you also have a cute administration which is supported by the us. and this administration is increasingly being the, in spite of information. let me bring in some thoughts from our audience who are watching all 3 of you in that right now. guess i'm gonna give you out 3 points and you can just build off the back of them, but very briefly so that you can include our audience in the knowledge that you know. all right, so miss labelle, katie says, i am glad to see you as support ukrainians, but i wish this benevolent act was expend, extended to most or all people gillian, very briefly on this. and that's exactly. thank you so much for the comment,

and that's exactly what we are saying though. well, coming up with dignity of your queen, recruiting, and shall not be an exemption to the world, but it shall be the war by which will welcome people regardless of their skin, color of country of origin. so that's where we're yelling it. no, no, i was thinking i was thinking maybe the u. s. immigration system is a broken system, which is why so many haitians were picked up that didn't, weren't allowed to apply for asylum and they were, was sent to haiti, but it's not broken. it's may be how it is managed, that is broken because when you get an emergency like crane, that was ok. absolutely. and i don't think it is walk in them. it's working exactly the way they had to work and somebody haitian for black black people. but ation

please, this is not the 1st time abuse has been applied upon our, our so we did this whole the way the system is working is not lost. and we always say you, why isn't that when it comes to haitian when it comes to black people, the violence instead of care? why do we always have to prove our you money versus people? if they happen to have a passport, has the director of us the they been the far, the line for them come with the right path for the right color. but when it comes to haitian insert you've all we, violet st. this in the such that you did that was, was very telling which was about how many flights left the us and went to haiti in the past. you and you just track these flights and these with deportation flight. can you tell us briefly what you found out because this is really,

this is the immigration policy or the deportation policy of the biting administration as it stands right now. yeah, exactly. and just to piggyback on the previous point to i think this is really important, right? i mean, the example of the treatment of ukraine's it also shows what it's possible, right? we often hear with haiti and the response as well. we don't have the capacity, we don't have the capability, the boarders over run, we don't have the staff. well, here we can see what they want to do with will, right with political will. and so that does make the dream invasion to conscious decision, right? this isn't just passes and i think that's a really important distinction. so you know, these flights, i think this is a really important point because we don't know very much about how this system actually works. it's being to, it's taking place behind closed doors and out of public site. right. and so the only way we're able to track these flights, we're able to get information about the numbers of flights that are actually going to is by using flight databases and then trying to figure out which contractors have, you know, have the contracts to fly deportees back under department of homeland security,

immigration and customs enforcement and doing this all sort of you know, outside those official channels. right. and so it was really shocking to see these huge optics and flights. right. and is that a time where the september 2021, that was just a month after barry devastating earthquake at the southern peninsula of haiti. and what we noticed that, you know, also is that many of these people were being sent back, were actually from that southern peninsula being sent right back into a disaster. so what i found, very illuminating with little was as i was talking to the proteins from the u. s. he went back in haiti. the treatment they received when they were in facilities in the united states. not allowed to wash or bass for 2 weeks. they were shackled on the way back to haiti. mothers with babies was shackled there any, any hygiene items, deodorant, soap was taken away from them. so the whole process was to humanizing,

and then it looks like that process was deliberate. to scare the deportees into telling people back in haiti do not try to come to united states. these terrible things will happen to you in the research and the an analyst on the analyzation of what's been happening. it's being cited that that was torture, that migrants were being taught shared with you. does that jell with what you've been reporting on what you've been saying? yes, i mean, when you talked to this magnets, i wasn't the ground for able boston to washington was last year, especially for the 1st big ways. and one thing that strikes me and that kept repeating for migrants to d. o to migrants is how shots they were, how surprised they were to be mistreated and you know, by agents from,

from the u. s. and many of them actually were so surprised that such, such thing would happen while they were in facilities. and as you say, many of them are pointed not being able to take that many of them actually suffered physical abuses from, from asians. some of them was, you know, putting chains in the planes coming back. many said to me, the last items, including ideas that they had on them, etc. and these treatments, as you say, are being considered maybe were infected because the try to make an example of these people. and when they are back to 80, maybe they can tell their story. so people know can be returned to come to the us. but what, what is important for people to know is nobody choose to go on

a journey where they know they can die, where they know they are going to lose everything, including their lives for nothing. each. this situation in haiti that is difficult and it's the palace is actually that were implemented for the past 10 years, at least in this country. that brings us to the situation where we are in right now . i spoke to the state department as i was doing this, reporting the 4 lines and about the situation. and the treatment deportees doing covered that colorado file says, phil shortages. these are not situations where you would necessarily want to send people back without hearing their asylum process. so when i fit to the state department, i asked them about this situation with haitians. and i want you to hear a little bit of that discussion. have a listen, have a look 25000,

at least haitian asylum seekers migrates, came to the u. s. looking for somewhere safe to live and they returned back to haiti. so migration and issues around repatriation are obviously extremely complex and difficult. this is something that the biden administration has taken on board and looking at a hemispheric wide solution to migration because the migration of course is not as coming from haiti when the haitian asylum seekers are being deported by to haiti. and they see a difference between how they're treated and how other asylum seekers are being treated for instance, ukrainians family. as i said, these are extremely difficult questions that involve people's lives and people's wellbeing. and that is something that the state department and the broader us government is doing everything that we can to address those estimates, the department of homeland security or we contacted them for this show and they

decided they weren't going to be on the show. but they said a couple of things via email i want to share with you guess, and you can tell me, are we heading towards a way of treating haitian to pull teas, humanely or haitian seeking asylum, or asia migrants will help. mainly with this, with this suggestions, he suggestions from the department of homeland security, the haitian family reunification parole program. that means that certain haitians can move to night to states if they have family members, girlie. and i'm going to ask you to do this very briefly. 20 seconds is that helpful not happening. they have said that you will deal with but sedate, that there is absolutely the will. watson. c efforts actually to make this happen. so what i'm saying that we're all tired of excuses when an action. okay. temporary protection status is now extended through to 2024 with no. is that helpful? will that stop?

i'm going to ask. yes, again, anyone to answer all of your questions? go ahead. no, no, i hope. all right. lisa have not been extended. i hate see, thank you. i had a missed information in miss miss understanding what has happened even continue to june. the 30 of 20. 20 feel d h u s. use for hold us. yeah, that, that is for. if chris, if we will, the ramos case, but it's still in the course in california. it's not for hate just specific. if you let me move on and just put in getting a little bit more gutting, i thank you for the correction. i appreciate that. all right, so on youtube, i'm just gonna go to youtube with lots of that. we can also some of these things that is concerned, that there's a different way of haitians being treated from europeans being treated at. i think this pessimistic towing around the word racism. are you seeing racism in this

relationship between the u. s and haiti? well, i don't know if i'm the best person to speak about this issue. what i do know is the folks that were sent back to haiti accounts for those, those people, the teen frankly, of racist. i think no other families can speak about that. but if anyone knows about residency, anyone who knows about the treatment of black people in the us can see similarities between you know, how haitian migrants being received their respects, the not being afforded. understanding of the situation that is not recognized is the same with you know, history of races by this is in mrs. smith's treatments of black people in the west, and i'm not seeing any difference whatsoever. i'm going to bring in show, in

a sporting brown his on you too. thank you. shauna for watching this. shawna says i am so ashamed as an american. they do not want black and brown people here that's. that's a big statement. i think initially from the usaa to really appreciate what actually means every spoke to robert and he wanted to share this with us. have a listen, have a look and enjoy. please build the back of robin's thoughts. of a 40 years ago, u. s. congress passed the refugee protection act with overwhelming bipartisan support, protecting the right to seek silence for all persons regardless of the color of their skin or the country in which they were born. yet we have a long history of denying this right to patience. for the past 2 years, they've been blocked and expelled from seeking asylum at our southern border and sent back to their country which is in a worsening crisis. the use u. s. government recognizes that to haiti is not a safe place and has rated at a level for security risk and granted temporary protected status. last year to

haitians are ready in the country, it's long past time for the u. s. government to abandon these to terrance based strategies that are harmful and do not work. and instead embrace a policy of welcoming haitians with dignity and following our migration laws. like is this like a yeah, yeah, i completely agree with that and i think, you know, there's 2 points that i'd want to make. i mean one is that the miss treatment of patients in our immigration system not only is a historical reality, but has been sort of the tip of the spear of the creative, modern carts, role immigration system. so the detention centers and you see the prisons that we're holding migrants and this started as a response to a wave of asia migration 40 some years ago. right. and then the other point we need to consider here, right, it's not just the mistreatment at border right. there's a reason that haitians are playing and it's not just this, just the current situation on the ground, but the product of a history, right. and

a history that i know states and other foreign powers have been extremely involved . right. and so when we're talking about the root causes, we're talking about, i'm going to leave. yeah, the root causes of the relationship between the haiti and the u. s. and y haitians are coming to the united states and then going to put it back. that is something that we will delve into even deeper on the next line to feel no country patients as a premise, november the 23rd at 20 to 30 g m t, darlene jake, with little m p u. s. thank you for being part of today's program. i see next time take in from take off until the final whistle will bring you expensive coverage, fill out the world action for all of the games, the joy and the hall experts and match analysis for my videos,

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