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the very proud participation and guitar marshall day of the fly past over to her this year is very different. so this is a much longer deployment. we're here for up to 6 months under here like a site to really set the guitar typhoon wing off on a running starts process is a fairly major bit in the middle, which is support to the security of the woke up 22. and it's very exciting to me. during the tournament, 13 countries are involved in various capacities, to preamp and deal with multi dimensional challenges. the ministry of defense, as if sure will be to support the military interior and security committee. and also to protect, prevent and deter any threat towards the air space, land borders and territorial waters, air force, navy, and land forces which are all under the combined gross task force under the ministry. so all are all borders. also, korea, water plan bodies. annette space will be selected as for our funded operational,
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typically with operational command and the butter land forces, air force, navy, and all of the personnel will work under a joint command structure. yuki official said their experience in hosting the 2012 olympics who come in handy. and if they do their job right, nobody will know their, their. ultimately, this is a sporting event. so the security that we're providing will be out of sight out of mind. for most and it is that really just to cater for the worst case scenario. so from a counter terrorism perspective, and that's what we're here today. this is a sporting event and asked main focus. it's about building relationships for the future and global security, as well as a whole. since securing the bit other sports is of worked with global security partners to plan for the world cup. they want this extraordinary military corporation to build knowledge sharing for international sporting event. hope that
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lessons from p for 2022 will have secure at the tournament. summer job it under the roof. the hun airbase. but ah, saudis here on these aisle top stories now malaysia longtime politician, unwise abraham has been named prime minister. no parties secured and outright majority and saturday selection. but honours coalition one, the most seats, the world's biggest apple. i phone maker fox scholars apologize to workers out. it's jang joe factory asked for a protest, turned violent employees were demanding better pay and demonstrating against china . strict cove 19 policy. it comes as china recorded more than 31000 cases in a day. the highest so far. no russian air strikes have left several ukrainian
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cities without power and water as temperatures plummet. president volume is zelinski is accusing moscow of crimes against humanity for european union says serbia and cause of i have reached a deal to end. the dispute about car license plates and cause of ethnic serbs living in kosovo were facing finds if they didn't change their flights. as the headlines, the news continues here now to sierra after inside story, what happens when the news media fail to do that joke? it's one of the biggest reasons why iraq is not yet a democracy. there's no accountability. the listening post exposes the power is controlling the narrative. russian media does the lot of favorably. his method has to be back by the whole propaganda. but apple and the tools they used to do it, how do you read through all the information? how do you determine what is this information with the listening post your guide to the media on his era took it says that it's more determined than ever to secure
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it's southern border. the military has intensified airstrikes on kurdish fighters in northern syria and iraq. so what's caused this latest escalation, and who are the main players? this is inside story. ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan. tension has increased along turkey as border with northern syria. the turkish defense ministry says that its forces of hit the $500.00 targets in kurdish held areas since sunday. turkey is also reporting casualties among fighters from the s d f. the syrian democratic forces. the strikes follow a bombing in istanbul 10 days ago for which turkey blames the outlawed kurdish group. the p k. k. anchor a says that it's targeting bases in syria belonging to the y p g,
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a kurdish group with links to the p k. k. since 2016 turkish forces have conducted 3 ground operations to clear y p g fighters from northern syria. now the president is promising to conduct another offensive see how that lay of films over there. so no operation said planes, cannons and drones are only the beginning from hattie to her curry. our determination to secure all of our southern border with the faith thunder. so as to remove the possibility of attacking our country's lands is stronger to day than ever before. because his look at the areas of control turkey is striking targets in the border area near manage, which is on the s t f. control the region in yellow freak syrian army fighters control the areas in green from where they support turkish military offensives. turkish syrian forces also control the purple parts here and the government of basha, our site has control over most of the country in red,
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although ice will fighters are still present in the desert in the east, out as the rest of them. costello as a report now from the turkish border with syria to care continue to target the syrian curtis fighter group in northern syria through a white scale air campaign that was started on sunday morning. the decision to target the group came after the officials accused the y p g of planning and carrying out they stumbled. bomba tag a one week before the white scale operation. a continued with shelling, say, from the turkish side and towards the y p g positions in northern syria and the y p g. 's have been a shallow the turkish side as well. the y p g o p k, k. a officers say that they are not targeting the civilian areas. however, civilian areas in southeast, in turkey, cities and rebel how the regions in northern syria have been targeted, resulting in civilian that's turkish present. ridge of tape are done well to clear
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his country's borders with syria for what he calls terrorism. meaning that he wants to get the armed kurdish fighter group out of this region to create a safe corridor. it is not only because zonker doesn't want neighbors or of i'm groups in its southern border, but also anchor wants to pave the way for the millions of syrian refugees for their voluntary return back to their homes. sina castle al jazeera for inside story in killers. at turkish syria border crossing the s t f is on the alliance of local syrian opposition fighters founded by the u. s. in 2015. washington began arming them shortly before an offensive to recapture the northern city of rocca from icims . it's made up of largely kurdish vices from the white p jeep. the estie app also includes arab took gland at our 1000000 faces algebra concerns about us support, especially out of the group launched operations in arab majority areas of
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northeastern syria. ah. so let's bring in, i guess, for today's discussion from oxford in the u. k, we joined by a gallup ballet, a non resident senior fellow at the middle east council on global affairs here in doha is mac tubes where a director of the gulf study center console university. and from washington d. c. were joined by lawrence call, the former us assistant secretary of defense of city, a fellow at the center for american progress. gentlemen, i will welcome to you all. a colleague will start with you what our turkey is. intentions in northern syria. is it going to launch a ground attack? while it's in the target intention is based on what president is. has been saying one thing about program once used to he did what he said, that when he does, his intention is clear need to do and other military operations 1st the
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air sprites. but i think the intention is to undertake and other general patients as well through the the, the goal for quite some times. but obviously the regional and international politics will define the nature of the depth of any special oppressions because the us and russia are major in the all those titles the border. so therefore for any grant invasions or any grant oppressions for any girl or patients, the u. s, and the russian factors, when a teacher have it in, in the congregation. ok, sorry. if turkey work to get a ground offensive in northern syria, would it be legal on international law? as you know, this is a conflict. and basically turkey has indicated many times that the it will not allow any kinds of that to stability
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regardless from what i think the issue here is not about international. accept or not is about how country perceives what's happening. i think turkey is looking at what's happened in toxeme area and it's tom boyd 2 weeks ago as, as a crossing that line and the basically the u. p g r y, p g, sorry, our sponsor. that other than that, i think the try to send a clear message that you know, the should not happen and will not allow this to happen. again, this happens as you know, in a, in a context where the whole issue of syria is being putting aside. because basically the most important players and here to talk about russia and, and, and ron, they have different shoes. they are busy and, and turkey does not want to be left alone with the crisis on their border. so that
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i think the turkish perception that the crisis is behind my as my backyard, and i cannot leave it without action florence cope. how does washington view what president or tuan says or is threatening to do? well, basically, we do not agree with president erewhon that all of the cards are terrorist. not everybody in the y p j as part of the p k, k. the y p j who were supporting to deal with isis. that's how we 1st got involved when the iraqis asked us to come back after isis all was through the government after we had with, with withdrawn. and we also want to protect the rebels who applied against the sod . so we do not want to see turkey have a ground invasion here. we want to keep our good relations because there are very,
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very productive voice for us in dealing with poke no, with this horrible war. and ukraine kind of just does present good one care what is and i, the us thinks well, i think, i mean, i mean the full check what the us is, but in the end the decision will be made. i'm obvious that there's a u. s. presence in j major prices, probably in the nations on one and other meetings or fresh and pe space but not forget to maintain. that created a major storm in the u. s. mason ship, but at the last they will probably make a decision based on its own consideration and based on its concern. so yes, what is the fact that what personal problem i will say, the fact that is more important, that the us practice given the job graphic location for which the charge is
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planning to undertake an operation. so i would say that what russia also cares is a major factor, but i think that should take, you would be willing to have a major presence in information with the us. is the price $42.00, a price will come to russia and iran, another actor in on the ground in syria in just a moment. and also israel, which has an interest in what's going on. but lawrence, i mean, you, you wanted to come in that on that to hear answer about whether president one particularly cares about will be us, thinks about what's going on in his own backyard. no, i don't think he does because he has shown he can act independently of asi bought russian. not air to air defense missiles. are even the war between azure bard as your buyer's yard armenia. he didn't care what we thought. no. i think he sees this was an extra special threat, particularly after the november 13th bombing master of the wary. and what about the
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timing ed lawrence mentioned? the bombing it is the, is, is purely to do with the bombing in east amble or is there more to this? does president, early one has, will have one eye on his hopes for re election next year. is the president perhaps calculating that there's an opportunity here because his allies, his western allies, are distracted at moment by what's going on a new crane. it is the trigger at the trigger. i mean, if you look at the wider context, you see that and recent month center brewery, turkey is playing a major role in a major complex with what's happening in between russia and the crane. and actually turkey is becoming the main access point to russia, to the west, and actually the main communicator between the west and, and, and i'm asha, so i think a turkey is playing
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a major role now. and i think what happened in toxeme was triggering was it took up just to push for action for 4 months now. and the recent, i think, 18 months turkey was not happy of what happened. the nurse have see it not have celiac and turkey is planning actually took, took but send back a number of a to see that are produced to, to the. and they wanted to make sure that not enough that of syria is a stable as secure. and i think if these kinds of things will continue, i think it will be backfire on turkey. they will not be able to go on on that plan to return some of the syrians to their own on country. so in it, there are 2 things you have to consider when is the context was basically what's happened in when it comes to russia, crane and, and the role of turkey. and also to what happened inside inside turkey was related to returning students and the future the next year, and the election and turkey. and what's another place or go on is looking for a benefiting from all those opportunities and the direct them in a way that it
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d as bill he benefit from them. then there. okay, can calipers and is it too cynical of me to, to, to say the co present. another one has an eye on reelection next unit and it's, it's a predicted we had a tight race. of course, in an operational on the scale or on the board with, with syria would, would do him good, wouldn't it electrically? the new patient will certainly will strengthen the nation on these nations feeling in the country the time when we're government, if you with addition to action partners. so you got yes that will, that will serve popular lecture me. but i think if you look at the number of the previous operations, so i'm installed them 18 of 19 and so the mentor oppression took place and they were both funky addiction as well. true. but. but yes, i mean, the oppression of such when probably probably will serve also electoral need to go
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well in the coming election. so it's called, what are the implications for, for the nato alliance of this? well basically we also are concerned about iran's role and here we still haven't been able to get the nuclear talks back on track or ran, announced that it's come close at a 2nd sight now to getting a, a nuclear weapon where concerned about russia was obviously what they're doing in ukraine, and basically we would like them to, you know, and this, and this har and this horrible horrible war where also concerned about stability in the, in the government, in iraq. i because of, if this thing gets out of hand in northern syria and the isis was able to reconstitute itself because nobody's paying attention to them that would obviously
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on the line, the government, iraq. so all of these things are interrelated. you've got russia who got turkey, you've got syria, and don't forget, you still have the syrian civil war where russia is working with syria and iran to keep the sodden power. luxury of swearing up after russia withdrew the bulk of its forces from syria. iran was the, the only pro, asked that country to have a significant military presence in, in syria. israel is concerned about that as lawrence was just telling us. and it has continued to, to carry out air raids in syria. what are the implications of this a potential turkish ground offensive in northern syria then for both iran and the israel it's obvious the more the more of these kinds of operation continue. it
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means basically there is no light, then the power comes to the future of serial basically can't come to like, city is becoming fresh. i the state is become the really offense. tell the state actually where, where many players are playing on the, on the, on the ground. and none of them is actually the government of syria. i mean, today a measure of iran was killed in damascus. and ronald cruising is right of that. and this is, and this is added to a number of those iranians were killed in the last 57 years and syria through the israelis. so actually there is, there is an ongoing, i would say, a confrontation or actually war between iran and israel in syria on the land of cedar basically. and that is a major, i'll say, a major conflict between both sides i think is really never dreamed. dream of it because iran has been basically on the border with his right. and that's,
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that's an issue happen actually because russia didn't offer israel and the, the green light iranians without any kind of regret. so basically, what's happening and now it's complicated that it may complicate the relations between russia and iran and russia. now, in need for, on the one side, the other side, it may improve the relation between russia and, and as well as been in and out, becoming as a prime minister or up at russia. the most pretty distracted with war in ukraine. much of if, if, if turkey did go into northern syria, i mean, how it russia react, would it, it would make me very vocal about it very disapproving, but i mean, this or in italy could do absolutely. they have nothing actually to stop it. i think they are, i think they are a statement already that they are not happy of this. but let's remember the point that i have a great already. i shall want to have a good ties with turkey, especially at the moment where turkey is securing
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a good communication line between russia and the west. especially when it comes to the issue of energy and the, the, the, the hope that this kind of line will keep, will, it will continue as long as this conflict was going on at this, the minimum of the communication that russia have with international community. can it how to syria and iran, and i suppose it iraq fit into to turkeys world view and it's view of its own backyard. do you see a situation in which there could be any sort of reset in relation to a reproach? what have you like between turkey and syria? what i think you, you important question what my you say at the brother regional level, when it comes to this mission with the goals upset and used to get every set and it's going to, you know, normal and vision to be the order of day. but when you come closer to home,
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meaning to get a policy or children's relation with sir. yeah, you're walk and, and the wrong. and also towards the region cottage, job postings, the skeletons or drugs they just look at that one, the number of crisis, the geographic scope was present in terms of your run, your mission expanding from the south pole cousins all the way to see what the walking but more active from going from vision we can turn to can iran in your walk, you have multiple chrysler playing, or one of them is a cherokee p k. k dynamics. and other one is turkish iranian competition taken place in iran. that has implication on the druggist abroad, the national voltage in europe, but also really spoke the same in syria. so you had that on the one hand, present on talking about normal vision with this in region from this sort of potential even meeting with this and reduce that also to can merge them. that is
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coming as a result of the critic pushing a gold rush, pushing as well as well. but how we see the condition by an i'm in northern, northern syria. i think this contrast, the image will be the order of the day for sometimes, but i can the narrative, the new policy would be normalization and the condition with potential government one at the same time doubling on true goals. one of them is tried to send back folders to what we just kind of be interested bacteria and checking on their mind and, and, and push back as much as the current project in syria. not the goal for school was he was telling us the us going to happy at the prospect to the turkish ship ground offensive in northern siri, not least because there are us forces operating on, on the ground. how would the u. s. pressure president are to one, then not to go ahead with his plans. would it be done through diplomatic channels
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or given the took his economy is, is still in a bit of a mess right now. i mean could introduce sanctions. do you think against turkey? well, i think i could use everything that it has short of military force because it does not want to see turkish invasion of, of, of syria because that would create all kinds of a problems. it could lead to a war between iran and syria. obviously, the israelis would get involved, the united states made a decision on that, the obama administration not to get involved in serious civil war. but if tarkey does a head and invades, there's going to be very hard for us to say out of it. and as you mentioned, we already got american strokes. they're, they're not getting involved in the civil war. they're still trying to deal with isis and the, and the threats that to, to iraq. and as i mentioned before, we're hoping that turkey can play
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a constructive role. and getting negotiations going over the ukranian not civil war . remember in july, even at the height of the ukrainian warren, basically how russia in moscow had they had the turks in the syrians together to try and come up with some sort of solution with their position as weekend because of what's happening in ukraine. and lawrence, very brief on say, if you, if you would, the, as we said earlier, the s t f in alliance of local syrian opposition fighters founded by the u. s. does . does the us have any sympathy, a tool with turkey over the fact that it, but it's not happy with the s t f? does it understand that beef? well, i think it does it out as a stanza. the problem, as my colleague pointed out with the syrian refugees and that some parts of the up, the, the out forces the y p g and that other p k, k, have done some terrible things with turkey. but by and large, the ones we're working with are not responsible for that. their main goal is to
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protect the courage in iraq, not to go into turkey and turkey lumps all of them together and the p k. k is not the same as though the y, p j. they have different goals, different tactics that they use and different standards, much or wherever feeding. this is going to be that, but the, the last question he would about a minute and a half to it to answer here. one thing we haven't discussed, of course, is that these aren't empty tracts of land. we're talking about here with no one that is fights us. i mean, people live in this area. and if there's a military offensive going on, despite all of the other things that are happening in that particular part of the world, people once again are going to suffer and are going to be displaced, where they're going to go. who's going to look after the doesn't enter the human side of this and any conflict. my, my,
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my expectation that turkey takes government is, but he says that the to the image and the present are the longest government. i think what has been done so far is a message that they are determined to do think i'm not sure they have interest to escalate to have any kind of operation which may affect that image. i think they want to show the church people that they are determined are decisive. they will not allow people to employ or affect or threaten their security out there also they are, i think what it will be, what it any kind of action will lead to a bad impact of that image. that makes me feeling feel that. 3 any kind of a nation, it will me a target i to a may attack specific targets, try to avoid a mass impact and also keep it open. keeping open, i mean that there is no time limit for that. they may attack today. they make stop
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for one week and then target or the attack, so it will not be systematic in one time in one period. ok, check one, there we, we have to enter the news us next. and as we know the news waits for no one. many thanks it for being with us. our guests galloped alley matchups wary and launch called thank you. also for watching. don't forget, you can see the program again at any time by visiting our website at al serra dot com for further discussion. join us at our facebook page, you'll find that at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and of course you can join the conversation on twitter or handle at ha, inside story. for me, adrian, for again on the scene here though are face to face with us. we'll see you again. ah. blue african american from african perspective,
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