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the ministry of defense, as it's sure will be to support the ministry of interior and security committee and also to protect, prevent, and deter any threat towards the ear space, land borders, and territorial waters. air force, the navy and run forces, which are all under combined are task force under the ministry. so all are all borders, all territorial water plan borders, especially as for our family operation with operational command and the cutter, land forces, air force, navy, and all the personnel will work under a joint command structure. yuki official said their experience in hosting the 2012 olympics who come in handy. and if they do their job right, nobody will know their, their. ultimately, this is a sporting event. so the security that we're providing will be out of sight out of mind. for most and it is there really just to cater for the worst case scenario. so
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from a counter terrorism perspective, and that's what we're here today. this is a sporting event and asked main focus. it's about building relationships for the future and global security. as a, as a whole since securing the bit other sports is of worked with global security partners to plan for the world cup. they want this extraordinary military corporation to build knowledge sharing for international sporting events. and hope that lessons from free for 2022 will have secure other tournaments, some of the job it under the roof, the hun airbase other. ok . and let's take you through some of the headlines here. now just they are now on water, but i have the long time politician who spend is in prison has been sworn in his malays, his new prime minister, but formerly there must be seen in 5th. he secured a majority in parliament for slurry has more from column for we than yes,
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it has been saying that he's got the support of a 115 members of parliament x many, they've all signed declarations. he says expressing their support for him to be the next prime minister of malaysia. so it still leaves that question open just how much support on what abraham has. and it also leaves open the question of, you know, with an unwell lead government, can there be political stability? now one analysts we spoke to says there is possibility. he could be leading a minority government, even though malaysia has never seen that form of government before. new russian as strikes of left several ukrainian cities without power and water temperatures plummet. president vulgar moves, the landscape is accused moscow of crimes against humanity. china has recorded more than 31000 cove at 900 cases in one day. it's the highest number so far, the city of jung. joe is now preparing to lock down for 5 days,
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focused on his name, the tenant general awesome mooney as chief of the army. he was previously the head of the spy agency when he has appointment, coincides with a dispute between the military and former prime minister ron con. you planes, the army for playing a part in is ousting early this year. was a headlines. these continues after inside story, stay with us. ah, turkey says that it's more determined than ever to secure it's southern board up. the military has intensified as strikes on kurdish fighters in northern syria and iraq. so what's caused this latest escalation and who are the main players?
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this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm adrian finnegan, tension as increased along turkey as border with northern syria. the turkish defense ministry says that its forces of hit really $500.00 targets in kurdish held areas since sunday. turkey is also reporting casualties among fighters from the s t f. the syrian democratic forces. the strikes follow a bombing in istanbul 10 days ago for which turkey blames the outlawed kurdish group. the p k. k. anchor a says that it's targeting bases in syria belonging to the y p g, a kurdish group with links to the p k. k. since 2016 turkish forces have conducted 3 ground operations to clear y p g fighters from northern syria. now the president
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is promising to conduct another offensive see how the lay of dullness over as though no opperation said plains. canons and drones are only the beginning from hattie to her curry. our determination to secure all of our southern border with the faith thunder, so as to remove the possibility of attacking now, countries lands is stronger to day than ever before. because his look at the areas of control, turkey is striking targets in the border area near manage, which is on the sd of control. the region in yellow freak syrian army fighters control the areas in green from where they support turkish military offensives. turkish syrian forces also control the purple parts here and the government of basha, our side has control over most of the country in red, although i still fighters are still present in the desert in the east. out as era selim costello as a report now formed
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a turkish border with syria to care continue to target the syrian kurdish fighter group in northern syria through a white scale air campaign that was started on sunday morning. the decision to target the group came after the officials accused the y, p g of planning and carrying out they stumbled bomb attack. a one week before the white scale of peroration a continued with shall links air from the turkey's side. a towards the y p g positions in northern syria, and the y p g. 's have been a challenge the turkish side as well. the y p g o p k, k, a officers say that they are not targeting the civilian areas. however, civilian areas in southeast, in turkey, cities and rebel how the regions in northern syria have been targeted, resulting in civilian, that's turkish president, richard tay bardon. well, to clear his country's borders with syria for what he calls terrorism, meaning that he wants to get the armed kurdish fighter group out of this region to
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create a safe corridor. it is not only because anchor doesn't want neighbors or of i'm groups in its southern border, but also anchor wants to paved the way for the millions of syrian refugees. for the voluntary return back to their homes, sina castle al jazeera for inside story in killers. at turkish syria border crossing the s t f is on the alliance of local syrian opposition fighters founded by the us in 2015. washington begun arming them shortly before an offensive to recapture the northern city of rocca. from iso it's made up of largely kurdish vices from the white p g. the s t f also includes arab tuchman at our 1000000 faces algebra concerns about us support especially out of the group launched operations in arab majority areas of northeastern syria. ah. so let's bring it, i guess,
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for today's discussion from oxford in the u. k rejoined by a gallop ballet, a nonresident senior fellow at the middle east council on global affairs here in doha is mac tubes where a director of the gulf study center console university. and from washington d. c, which went by lawrence called the former us assistant secretary of defense of city, a fellow at the center for american progress. gentlemen, i will welcome to you or i will stop with you. what our turkey has intentions in northern syria. is it going to launch a ground attack? well, i think the intention is based on the what president, one is, has been saying one thing about program one. use it, he did what he said, that when he does follow his intention is clear in the to do and other military operations. first the air sprites. but i think the intention is to undertake and other general patients as well to the good the,
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the goal for quite some times. but obviously the regional and international politics will define the nature and then the depth of any such or oppressions. because the us and russia are major in the all those titles the border. so therefore, for any grant invasions, for any grant operations, for any current operation, the u. s. and the russian factors with a feature in having the conversation ok, much swearing if turkey work to get a ground offensive in northern syria, would it be legal on international law? as you know, this is a conflict. and basically turkey has indicated many times that they, you know, it will not cut out any kind of stability regardless from what i think the issue here is about international law. not about how country perceives
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what's happening. i think turkey is looking at what happened in toxeme area and tumblewood 2 weeks ago as, as you know, crossing the line and the, basically the p g r y, he's responsible and i think to try to send a message that, you know, this should not happen and we are not allowed this to happen again. this happens as you know, in a, in a context where the whole issue, syria is be putting aside. because basically the most important player. and here that talk about russia and, and, and iran, they have different issues. they are busy and turkey does not want to be left alone with the crisis on their board, so that i think the turkish perception that the crisis is behind my as my backyard, and i cannot leave it without action. lawrence called,
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how does washington view what president 3rd one says or is threatening to do? well, basically, we do not agree with president erewhon that all of the cards are terrorist. not everybody in the y p j as part of the p k, k. the y p j, who we're supporting to deal with isis. that's how we 1st got involved when the iraqis asked us to come back after isis almost through the government after we had with, with withdrawn. and we also want to protect the rebels who applied against the sod . so we do not want to see turkey have a ground invasion here. we want to keep our good relations because there are very, very productive voice for us in dealing with poke no, with this horrible war ukraine. kind of just does president good one care?
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what is an i the us thinks. well, i think, i mean, i mean the full check what the us is, but in the end the decision will be made. i'm obvious that there's a u. s. presence in major prices probably in the nation on one and other mistakes or fresh and pe space. but not forget to maintain that created a major storm in the u. s. mason ship, but at the last they will probably make a decision based on its own consideration and based on its concern. so yes, what is the fact that what the problem i will say the russian effective is more important that the us practice given the job graphic location for which the charge is planning to undertake an operation. so i would say that what russia also cares is a major factor, but i think that should take, you would be willing to have
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a major presence in information with the us. is the price $42.00 that we're price will come to russia and iran, another actor in on the ground in syria, in just a moment. and also israel, which has an interest in what's going on. but lawrence, i mean, you, you want to come in that on that particular answer about whether president one particularly cares about will be us, thinks about what's going on in his own backyard. no, i don't think he does because he has shown he can act independently of asi bought russian air to air defense missiles and even the war between azure bard as your buyer's yard armenia. he didn't care what we thought. no, i think he sees this is an extra special threat, particularly after the november 13th bombing muster of the wary. and what about the timing it lawrence mentioned the bombing it is the, is this purely to do with the bombing in a stumble, or is there more to this?
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does president early one has, will have one eye on his hopes for re election next year. is the president perhaps calculating that there's an opportunity here because his allies, his western allies, are distracted at moment by what's going on a new crane. it is the trigger is the trigger. i mean, if you look at the wider context, you see that and recent month center brewery, turkey is playing a major role in a major complex with what's happening in between russia and the crane. and actually turkey is becoming the main access point to russia to the west, and actually the main communicator between the west and, and, and i rush up. so i think a turkey is playing a major role now. and i think what happened and toxeme was triggering was it took up just to push for action for 4 months now. and the recent, i think,
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18 months turkey was not happy of what happened. the nurse have see it not have celiac and turkey is a planning actually took, took but send back a number of a to see that are produced to, to the. and they wanted to make sure that norfolk enough that of syria is a stable as secure. and i think if these kinds of things will continue, i think it will be backfire on turkey. they will not be able to go on on that plan to return some of the syrians to their own on country. so in it, there are 2 things you have to consider when is the context was basically what's happened in when it comes to russia, crane and, and the role of turkey. and also to what happened inside inside 20 was related to returning students and the future the next year, and the election and turkey. and what was a plane or the lawn is looking for, benefiting from all those opportunities and the direct them in a way that a d as bill he benefit from them that the okay can calipers and is it too cynical
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of me to, to, to say the globe president, other one has an eye on reelection next unit and it's, it's a predicted we had a tight race. of course, in an operational on the scale or on the board with, with syria would, would do him good, wouldn't it electrically? no pressure will certainly will strengthen the nation on these nation stealing in the country time when we're government in call with emissions action partners. so yes, that will, that will serve popular lecture me. but i think if you look at the number of the previous operations, so i made a change of mind change. and so the mentor oppression took place, and there were both quite long function action as well. true. but, but yes, i mean the oppression of such when the problem, the problem will start also electoral need to go well in the coming election. so it's called, what are the implications for, for the nato alliance of this?
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well basically we also are concerned about iran's role and here we still haven't been able to get the nuclear talks back on track or ran, announced that it's come close at a 2nd sight now to getting a, a nuclear weapon where concerned about russia was obviously what they're doing is ukraine, and basically we would like them to, you know, and this and this car and this horrible horrible war where also concerned about stability in the, in the government, in iraq. and because of, if this thing gets out of hand in northern syria and the isis was able to reconstitute itself, because nobody's paying attention to them that would obviously on the line, the government, iraq. so all of these things are interrelated. you've got russia who got turkey,
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who got syria, and don't forget, you still have the syrian civil war where russia is working with syria and iran to keep the sodden power. mockery of the wary after russia withdrew the bulk of its forces from syria. iran was the only pro, asked that country to have a significant military presence in, in syria. israel is concerned about that as lawrence was just telling us. and it has continued to, to carry out air raids in syria. what are the implications of this a potential turkish ground offensive in northern syria then for both iran and the israel it's obvious the more the more of these kinds of operation continue. it means basically there is no light, then the power it comes to the future of serial. basically country like cedar is becoming fresh. i the state is become the really offend. tell the state actually
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where, where many players are playing on the, on the, on the ground. and none of them is actually the government of syria. i mean, today a measure of iran was killed in damascus. and ronald cruising is right of that. and this is, and this is added to a number of those iranians were killed in the last 57 years and syria through the israelis. so actually there is, there is an ongoing, i would say confrontation or actually war between iran and israel in syria on the land of syria, basically. and that is a major, i'll say, a major conflict between both sides, i think is really never dreamed. dream of it because iran has been basically on the border with it. and that's, that's an issue happen actually because russia didn't offer israel and the, the green light iranians without any kind of regret. so basically,
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what's happening in now, it's complicated that it may complicate the relations between russia and iran and russia. now in need for iran, then one side, the other side. it may improve the relation between russia and, and as well as been in and out, becoming as a prime minister or a bit russia, the most pretty distracted with war in ukraine. much of if, if, if turkey did go into northern syria, i mean, how it russia react, would it, it would be very vocal about it. very disapproving, but i'm, it is very little. i could do absolutely. they have nothing actually to stop it. i think they are, i think they are a statement already that they are not happy of this, but let's remember the point i have a great already. i shall want to have a good ties with turkey, especially at the moment where turkey is securing a good communication line between russia and the west. especially when it comes to the issue of energy and the, the, the, the hope that this kind of line will keep,
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will, will continue as long as this conflict was going on at this, the minimum of the communication that russia have with international community can about how to syria and iran, and i suppose it iraq fit into to turkey's world view and it's view of its own backyard. do you see a situation in which there could be any sort of reset in relation to reproach? what have you like between turkey and syria? what i think you, you actively important question what my you say at the brother regional level, when it comes to this mission with the growth upset and used to reset. and it is going to, you know, normal edition to be the order of date. but when you come closer to home, meaning to get a policy or children's mission with sir. yeah. your walk and, and, and also towards the regional college job posting the students or they just look at
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that. you want the number of crisis geographic school was present in church. you run your mission, expanding from the south pole cousins all the way to see what the you're working. but more active from him is compensation between turn to gen, iran in your walk. you have multiple cries and playing or one of them is a cherokee p. k. dynamics and other one is turkish iranian competition taken place in iran. that has implication on the druggist of broadening national voltage in europe. but also we spoke the same in syria. so you had that on the one hand, present to go on talking about normal vision with this region, openness for potential, even meeting with this and reduce that also to can large extent that is coming as a result of the could be pushing or go. russia pushing as well as well, but how we see the condition by now i'm in northern, northern syria. i think this contrasting image will be the or drove to be for some
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funds, but i can the narrative. the new policy would be normalization and the condition with the central government, while at the same time dublin barn, 2 goals, one of them is tried to send back the student was just trying to be in charge of bacteria and checking on their money and, and, and push back as much as the current project in syria. i'm not the goal for school was he was telling us the us going to happy at the prospect of the turkish ship ground offensive in northern syria. not least because there are us forces operating on the, on the ground. how would the us pressure president a to one then not to go ahead with his plans? would it be done through diplomatic channels or given the turkeys economy is, is still in a, in a bit of a mess. right now. i'm good at it. introduce sanctions. do you think against turkey?
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well, i think i could use everything that it has short of military force because it does not want the c turkish invasion of, of syria because that would create all kinds of problems. it could lead to a war between iran and syria. obviously, the israelis would get involved, the united states made a decision on that, the obama administration not to get involved in serious civil war. but if tarkey does a hand and invades, there's going to be very hard for us to say out of it. and as you mentioned, we were to got american strokes. they're, they're not getting involved in the civil war. they're still trying to deal with isis on the, and the threats that to, to iraq. and as i mentioned before, we're hoping that turkey can play a constructive role and getting negotiations going over the ukranian not civil war . remember in july, even at the height of the ukrainian war,
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basically russia in moscow had they had the charts in the syrians together to try and come up with some sort of solution. but their position is weakened because of what's happening in ukraine. and lawrence, i'm very brief on see if you, if you would, the, as we said earlier, the s t f in alliance of local syrian opposition fighters founded by the u. s. does . does the us have any sympathy, a tool with turkey over the fact that it, but it's not happy with the s t f? does it understand that beef? well, i think it does. it understands the problem, as my colleague pointed out with the syrian refugees. and that some parts of had the up, the, the forces, the y, p g and the p k. k. have done some terrible things to turkey. but by and large, the ones we're working with are not responsible for that. their main goal is to protect the courage in iraq, not to go into turkey and turkey lumps all of them together and the p k. k is not
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the same as though the y p j. they have different goals, different tactics that they use and different standards, much or wherever feeling this is going to be that, that, that the last question he would have about a minute and a half to it to answer here. one thing we haven't discussed across is that these aren't empty tracts of land. we're talking about here with no one that fights us. i mean, people live in this area. and if there's a military offensive going on, despite all of the other things that are happening in that particular part of the world, people once again are going to suffer and are going to be displaced, where they're going to go. who's going to look after them? doesn't enter the human side of this and any conflict my, my, my expectation that turkey takes government is, but it says that the to the image and the present are the longest government. i think what has been done so far is
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a message that they are determined to do think i'm not sure they have interest to escalate to have any kind of operation which may affect that image. i think they want to show the turks, people that they are determined are decisive. they will not allow people to employ or affect or threaten their security out there also they are, i think what it, there will be, what it, any kind of action will lead to a bad impact of that image. that makes me feeling, feel that any kind of nation, it will me a target i to a may attack specific targets, try to avoid a mass impact and also keep it open. keeping open, i mean that there is no time limit for that. they may attack today, they make stop for one week and then target or the attack. so it will not be systematic in one time in one period. ok, check one, there we, we have to enter the music next. and as we know,
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