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celebratory, done, every trip don't calla guns, and we have 5 chip dump amongst the number of people. all these 2 doors up from the same plan over a month. and that is verizon, right? it's only common amongst these people. now what happens is that when we happen, i 10 of the week, all the color le team got to deliberate and have fun with the color guns depict our social set up. for instance, we have fishermen, you will see one dance would depict people bringing the fish and getting the fish cooking the fish another done with the pig. since we are simple for doing it to depict the people having to think of pounding and turning into something
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new, we are very happy that you never go out. come on board to try and promote the present vision of our culture. i think in this way, none of our cultural activities, i'm not tradition, will you know, just ah, here i are headlines on al jazeera people in several cities across china, protesting for a 3rd day against strict cove at 19 measures. it's a rad display public defined. so one of president shooting pings policies, the b b. c says chinese police have arrested and assaulted. one of its journalists in shanghai at lawrence was covering the demonstrations when he was tackled and detained by police. the bbc released, vc journalists was released after several hours. chinese officials told the network
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lawrence was arrested to protect him from the virus. aging also says he failed to identify himself as a journalist. tortilla has resumed air strikes against kurdish fighters in northern syria on sunday jets bon barriers controlled by the y p g. a kurdish group linked to the p k. k to kia considers the p k k to be a terrorist organization. so them crossover has more from kill, is near the to kia syria border. everybody was expecting a ground operation last night and, ah, there are so many turkish media outlets. i positioned are them 1000 garza and they're been killed. what of course, are these kinds of offensive offenses are also based on negotiations, but what everybody expects underground in site syria and i am on the pupil that we have spoken to so far this is imminent and, and operation and must be coming soon according to the expectations,
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i have least 4 people have been killed in an attack on a hotel in the smiling capital. margaret issue. the arm group has schubert claimed responsibility gunman storm the villa rose hotel. east african leaders are meeting at nairobi to discuss how to bring peace to east and democratic republic of congo of the m $23.00 rebel group isn't there. as the headline news continues here now to sierra after generation change a priest that base of democracy, european philosophy and billing became but
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more recently, a country associated with a quickening debt crisis did me of 30 measures and economic class in 2015 brief also found it felt on the front line, the refugee crisis, my name and the amount of money, and i come here to happen to meet young, active if he wants to bring about radical change addressing issues from education and inequality, the racism, a migrant right. welcome to generation change a global theories, the attempt to understand and challenge the ideas a mobilizing youth around the world. mm
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oh, so we currently invade on us, which is where you grew up, right? was there anything about growing up here that could take me most of 80 to go into activism, participate in a senior governments in 5th grade. actually representing the students in many important issues as us raising money for people from lower economic backgrounds from students to participate in the school groups. ah, shopping people for families than mine to not be left behind. and your parents were they politically active? both my parents are trade unionists, but for my early ages i remember my barns, so it's telling me about how, how is respect every, every person no matter their background, their, their status. oh
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oh, i think if you are a current founder, a youth organization could really, i mean can you tell me where the name comes from and what your main objective that it's actually for the when you finish it or to william ins, initiative and noun means youth we focused on, i organizing people and he says, eligibility writes women's rights, human rights in general, but also the educational crisis in their climate crisis as well. we organize people on the street level with demonstrations and strikes, but also organize a lot of open dialogue with our members and, and young people in general to talk about the important stuff that our generation faces. and we're now starting through to do some lobbying work out, actually pressing politicians to implement. and then there's that poor core for
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young people as well. ma'am back back. oh, no, the leah may on isn't a line. so political policy, how would you describe the values of it for somebody that in a different country? i think that will lead to the progressive left who have some specific issues that are not like negotiable for us. but we try to, to keep the dialogue open and actually negotiate with people who are ideals. also we need to show people that you have to pressure this institution from the people who hold office to actually work for you on for your interest. ah, ah ah, ah, the world that you were born and raised in greece, but your parents originally come from albania. what's that been like here?
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well, in greece, the fact that you are born in the country or the true immigrating an early age doesn't automatically make you agree to citizen. so although i was born in greece, i was considered an albanian citizen until 2017, which meant that i had 0 civic right. but no, absolutely, no, probably can political presentation. and how are albanians to see if they're in greece maintenance, migrate in the ninety's after the disillusion of the hybrid communist state. we are currently the biggest migratory minority. we have been traditionally targeted by the media. we have been perceived as the dangerous criminals of somebody to watch out for and in a way it hasn't made it easier for us to stimulate in the great society.
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so you've been involved in anti fascist movement and i wanted to know what it was about your life experiences that kind of shape your journey into activism. the moment i started being actively involved with the anti from movement was when i was 13 years old. that coincided a little bit with the beginning of the financial crisis in greece. if i could pinpoint a certain moment in time that really sparkle my activist claim. it would be when the police kinda a 15 year old boy, his name was alexis. we got our group in athens and that sparkled our big movement of demonstration that moved from, from athens and spread all over greece. in spoke about their struggle, but also represented many different topics that we were fighting for from is put ality to a presentation to our 1st century, a better life. ah,
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so with all of his background, i'd like to know bit about the work that you do with migrant particularly. and so we are a non profit association. we are a collective form and doing in a few words. this is shading comedies and a 40 or racism and all sorts of for social discrimination. and we lack representation of people like us in politics and government and higher, let's say, like a aspects of society. so we're really keen on promoting that element. me bad. thank you, pets, earth and rosa being here to day. both of you have grown up during a time of enormous social and economic upheaval in greece. whereas how do you think
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that this is defined things to your generation? well, i think when somebody is faced with adversity, there's most probably 2 ways you can go about. one of them is to, you know, put your head down and let it turn destroy you. and the other one is to push against it and some holiday define you positively. i think cause i come from the generation i was facing the financial crisis and then was hit with what they call the refugee crisis. i think um we were confronted with a lot of different diverging structures and phenomenon, but most of us did come through more resilient. then again, i cannot admit the truth, which is that a lot of us are faced with this adversity we. we had to fly like i, i have to say that a lot of my appears, my classmates, people of my generation deeds leave greece. i think the weaken stronger after this, this crisis that we face as generations. something i have to drive is in the last
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of faith in the democratic institutions, though, our generation is facing. and that is something really difficult for people to understand this. a democratic or institutions can work for you, and something that we need is stronger representation of people, of our aides in the berryman and in any i am local or national or original or please, the decisions are being made is interesting that you say the young people don't have trust in democratic institutions because the last government actually lowered the voting age to 17. and i wanted to know what you think. that means that young people have more of an active voice in politics in greece. i think though it gave us a sense of responsibility because it was the 1st time that we got to vote ah, but the problem is that there the age to get elected, pursue the same. it's 25 years old. so that doesn't seem anything when it comes to representation and or as i wanted to ask you, your experience has been different. so could you explain
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a bit about what your civic rights have been like in greece? yeah, as there is a difference between being able to participate in the system and how her voice heard and actually being represented in the system, gone from what they call as a 2nd generation migrant greece. which basically means that you are either born from my grandparents in greece or you my great that an early age and i've lived most of your life in greece. so you have all of the implications as a proper greek citizen or taxpayer, but none of the civic rights. and i think one of the most important things that we need to understand is that you cannot vote. i think i come from a generation that has 0 visibility in the greek society, and that is exactly what we're trying to, to change with horizons to put greeks like me in the center of this up public and political. arianna, when you talk about not feeling visible, do you mean specifically coming from a migrant community? not having great nationality in the 1st place, or do you mean generally for their generation? ah, i think it's it,
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it represents the generation of people that have my grade 3 heritage and the visibility and visibility that i like to play with terms also comes from the fact that you are very visible in certain terms. and that is when people call you the immigrant and the cream, you know, and the foreigner, but then you invisible. when it comes to anybody taking into account what you think there are lots of specific things have happened in greece. they, we call them crises, but also a global pandemic. and i wanted to know how all these things are affected the education system and experienced the students like yourself. well, are we, we have, we're a no, we're basic term styles or we need no basic infrastructure that we need in our schools in a, in our universities. and the problem is that the current government is actually on trying to turn the discussion into a different direction. does be focusing on security on police, on, on campus. while at the same moment, we don't have some basic aspects,
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universities all around europe and all around the world, her house, it was specifically the, the lowering of, of budget or during the crisis. ah, especially the, the gout that a white and between the glowing and upper classes her, when it comes to private spending in greece, i need to have to get some private children to get into university. and so it becomes very disproportionate for people of, for working, clasping 4 o 2 to be able to help their kids to prepare their, their children, to get into university. i think it's a way of the current conservative government said to privatize everything. we've seen that happen with healthcare and i think it's a very direct approach towards education. i think you might agree with me. we are very proud to have a public education system in greece for us. it's important to keep it public and the conservative government strength of that exactly opposite. we were just talking
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about student politics and i think around the world shouldn't pallets excuse the left. but more generally in greece, the far right has gained popularity. most notably with the neo nazi group, the golden dawn. why do you think that's been the case there? when you have their version crisis and you have a space accountability grease, that is that i talk by many france then it's also on a ground that creates different possibilities. one of them is for populace narratives, for example, for big narratives, for it creates an opportunity for extreme ideas, the confort, because people are struggling rate. and on top of the financial crisis down 1000 aids in 2015, you had what they call the refugee crisis. so i think the system itself gave space to golden down to exist. because in that way they wanted to mainstream extreme ideas that we actually see to day in the conservative government. we cannot lie there specific people in the structures of the current government that are also in
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the right side of the spectrum. right. so yeah, i think it gain popularity because it needed to express the struggle in october of 2020 the golden dawn was finally criminalized, and some of the leaders were sent to prison. is that the end of the story when it comes to the golden dawn and the neo nazi aspects of the far right in greece, we do not have them in parliament. they are not in these strong public position that they were, they are not broadcasting. half of our days in our mainstream media, but in reality, they still exist. not all of them were jade. and not all of their ideas and narratives are buried somewhere beneath. right. you still have their support as around. i was talking with some people are there still go? there are publicly they are not. people are not ashamed to say that they support the golden dawn and maybe when they because then we can talk about it ending, but it's definitely not the case right now. do you agree with that that people aren't really ashamed to be associated with the golden dawn?
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i think the republic of her burns judicial decision own 2020 understood how dangerous calling on was, especially after they're the killing of or for barbara's thesis. a famous greek musician of hymns, shirt greek rubber, are the people understood that it wasn't just a right wing party who was a new nazi criminal group. there was during some criminal and terrorist activities . but the ideologies is to rear and we are firm one of their members greeting a barley in greece. in 2015 over 1000000 refugees and migrant landed on the shores of greece and rosa you went to work on the island of samus. what did their experience show you? yeah, i mean there was a definitely a defining experience. i think um it, it is still hard for me to express what i went through. but for sure, it started me and it made me understand that if as, as immigrants had a really tough life and i struggled, this people are having its darby and worst. and that comes from the fact of what
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they go. so when they are in the camps, back in the day, the camp was open. today they are closed security facilities and international, and yo's leg oxfam and amnesty international havoc. he is the greek government of illegal pushed back the refugees across the border and prison like refugee centers . i wanted to know if you think that the great public support these measures. i don't think that the great public support those measures, but i think the rules are like of information when it comes to the whole refugee issue increase because the media is now covering other other issues as, as the gas prices are really busy prices of the war in ukraine, so i think that especially the mainstream media have been trying to, you know, m james a dialogue and take it as a far away as, as a can from. and why is that? because the government had turned camps from space that you could walk into to
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prison conditions. so there is, i think for me it's a targeted approach to give out as little information as possible. and actually when there is information alternative media, it's being blocked. and those journeys are being even touched and followed by the government. and i wanted to circle back. so one key point on the media in the recent international press freedom index, published by reporters without borders. greece came last of all european union countries behind bulgaria and hungary. were you surprised about that? frankly speaking, not, but the contextual, if we see greece and the media landscape seems to financial crisis, what you observe is that there has been really strong to funding of the, of the young and the media services. so what media does now is of the rely on public funding. what happens there is that the public funding goes to the hands of the media are supporting the conservative government. so you have a system that is not fair. you have a system that is not a safe,
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you have journalists that i know of personal investigative journalist being docked by the government. so i think it's a, it's a matter of understanding that the ownership and the safety are really really going downhill. and i think it's, it's important to note that the government has refused, said robo reporters without borders findings. and they've said that the majority of newspapers in greece exercise 1st criticism against the government better. what do you think about that response from the government? it has nothing to do with the reality we're facing in greece because the press and the media here are operated by the one percent of the country. a may say, who have big dies with the oil business in the shipping industry. so for me, especially when it comes to my climate activism or it was really difficult, going to do a media, we're talking about climate teams and talking about how these sibling companies are destroying local communities. they wouldn't report because they are owned by the people who, who are creating the problems and across the world. young people attending to
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social media instead for news information, anything really. and i wanted to know if there was any examples in greece that highlighted how certain platforms have been used to amplify issues will bring about positive change or organization. for instance, gain popularity during the pedantic through our social media, especially the instagram is he gave us the opportunity to actually talk about issues that were not being talked about in mainstream media. cuz we're talking about the educational crisis and how you remember demik. we have espn in cali 1000000000 people who could afford having like 2 computers at home or having internet access because not everybody did. i wanted to echo what we actually do as well. we use social media to bring forth social change actually working for them. we had cases of refugee students have been denied asylum and we really pushed a big social media campaign needs to go and facebook. we went there and intervened
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in his school. and when we actually saw that through the shang, are you posting of that or do visual file and on our own, our narrative in our post, we actually managed to contribute into a whole system of support that got that kid, his asylum approved. it was a really interesting experience for us because we as, and we have a lot of power, meant to media doesn't give us the space, but social media it's, it's for us. the show is called generation change and i do want to know from both of you how you define your data generation compared to that of your parents. so i think that we are one of them most progressive generations. but at the same time or with social media, sometimes we get the reason that we're active enough, but does not the case, we need to be more active willing to be more organized as our friends leave. a lot of fights, especially during the dictators, have been greece. ah, we need people to go to the streets to organized in order to,
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to actually change something in order to be represented more are, but i'm up to mr. williams, to, to my generation are being, you know, politically active. and rosie your experience has been quite different to that of your parents because they came over here from another country. how do you see a world view as being different to that as well? i think this is true for most kids that come from my grandparents. we are raised with a bunch of her syndromes. you have to add, like come to terms with the fact that your parents have sacrificed most of their lives in liberty and freedoms for you to enjoy some of what you consider as a bow like the basic human rights. the yes, a segregation and the ext proper housing. i grew up being poor for a certain like part of my life. so i know that my parents had to go through that struggle where more than i did. so yeah, i feel privileged. i feel honored and i feel thankful for their sacrifice,
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but my job is to make sure that my generation does have to do that for the next one . pictures, trulia is non partisan. it is outside of the system at the moment. do you think that in the future you're gonna have to work within the system in order to bring about change? sometimes we also work with a system at that time cuz it is because when it comes to to talking with members of apartment or representatives, we get into conversations with them. i mean, a partisan organization would be very, very difficult for us because at the moment we, we cannot find ourselves being represented in our interests being represented by a specific party. that is a very, a very huge problem for, for as in ration we need to be represented and heard more. and we need a political part of the, we'll talk about our problems enough, especially education system and the working at the working rights
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issue that people are facing now generation. i also want to ask you this question, where as i, i know that previously had been very anti system, but now you work in brussels, which is the heart of the european system. how did that happen and is that just in and out visibility, getting a bit older? definitely, i think i'm the more into understand that sir, by screaming on the outside you bring forces pacific and minimize changed. i comes also in no, honey, hard with being a bit older guess as you mature, i think at least for me and then doesn't have to be the case for everybody. i understood that in order to change a system, you need to 1st i empower yourself and protect yourself and then enter that system in order to change it from within. and i think that's how change it by bringing people like us in position of power so that they can influence the new legislation and the new decisions that are gonna then influence the whole society. i cannot find any other way. and finally,
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after all of the things we've talked about, all of the crises, all of the issues, all of the problems, why do you care about change and do you think that it is realistic and possible? i think the do. art is written great journals of, of, of teams being made. oh, but it is a lot of work. and it's a lot of people understanding that they have to be active enough, especially in greece. he says that we have been going through so many crisis, but we are power powerful enough to, to actually fight for, for our basic rights fight for our representation. and i'm optimistic that our generation is going to be able to understand and be more inclusive in a way of making change possible for, for everybody out of my life, i've been told that i can't do the things. it starts from being an immigrant, then it goes to being a woman and goes to being weak or poor. and in reality to here we stand today and i
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think that i am living proof that you can start from last think and push against the system push. i guess i every obstacle it brings you and there is way more brilliant examples than me. but this is where we have today. yeah, i feel like i'm here to empower people and sometimes are present them. so in a way i find this motive because there is a lot of work to be done. they trust that thank you very much for being here. today, that's all for this episode of generation change in greece. a thing as a full friend, a progressive change in latin america, put them aside to remain high as does violence against gender and sexual minority.
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if i come to one, a series to 2 young women were taken different routes to establish greater freedom inequality. welcome to generation change. a global theories attempt understand, i'm telling you, i think that mobilize you around the world. generation changed on al jazeera with ah, with
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