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a family ok. today we're discussing a new documentary by our colleagues at a j plus one day in hebron. the film follows al jazeera as dina to query, as she travels back to the old city where her father grew up. let's take a quick look at the trailer and this is what i experienced minutes after setting my family's hometown down with a little. but we literally just got here, we went through the 1st military tech points and a bunch of soldiers stopped. us started yelling at us and i'm in the old city of hebron in the occupied west bank a place that wants to puzzle with life. but i'm about to see what israel's occupation and settlers have done to the heart of his city. hm. and to the people who with i'm a palestinian american journalist and i've spent much of my career reporting on the occupied territories. but hadron one of the west banks largest cities is also my
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roots. my father was born and raised here. i've returned to learn how the occupation has decimated his beloved home town. a place he hasn't been back to in years. a history of over what i know, it's really hard for him to see those. and so it's emotional for me. ah, to help us discuss how hebron and palestinians more broadly are impacted by israel's occupation, were joined by a few of the people who worked on the film. joining us from san francisco's dina tech brewery senior presenter at ha plus and co author of they called me a lioness, a palestinian girl's fight for freedom and unoccupied east jerusalem filmmaker and cameramen, m and a boot, a moose. and last but not least with us from tel aviv ori devotee advocacy director at breaking the silence. we want to of course include your thoughts on this show.
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so be sure to share your questions and comments right here and are you to chat and be part of the conversation? i want to get straight to at dina. so many questions for you. i'm curious, 1st off. ah, how did the idea to work on this documentary come about it's, it's much more personal than your other work or your, you know, the work i'm familiar with and for me it really hit differently because of that. yeah, as well. thanks. f. net is good to be here and it's good to see henri and a man in a less 10. so environment and i was planning, you know, as you heard in the trailer, i have reported from the occupied west bank several times throughout my career. i'm is also where most of my family lives and so i knew i would be taking a trip here this summer and i was sort of brainstorming with my producer hem at staffing and he came up with the idea of you know you're from hebron. i'm actually from hebron on both sides, mother and father, but my dad grew up there and lived there the longest. and so the idea came about to
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go there to visit hebron to retrace my father's footsteps and to tell the story of the occupation they are in a very sort of discovery and personal way. you know, we say later in the film that my dad can't really return, and i also wanted to, to honor him and to sort of give this as a sort of a contribution to my family lineage and to my ancestors. and, you know, it's, it's interesting. i mean, i've also worked with you in palestine. i'm curious, working with dina on such a personal project for you reporting and working their day in day out. what was the like for you to be part of that process? actually as i estimate, i have to one. yeah. i was with florida last and enjoy it. i was down when we started, this is like when we want to go to and i know it's very emotional but here. so it makes me feel like i'm on board already. i need to get her as
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a spontaneous it should. yeah. like i did not emotional because i'm putting something personal like kid child a long time, which is an issue. she talks about it, so yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't for me, this would be like a motional and to be honest, i was shocked because i started spending huge money. you know, we, we want to be like a coffee to be in, like actually the 1st year by so with the, i take my mood away and i feel like i can get started. would stop a police. ok guys come down here. you're talking about the interactions with israeli soldiers? correct? yeah, exactly. yeah. and i was like, i want to talk more about it. i literally just started rolling and we got pounced on and surrounded and swarmed. and it really set the tone for the rest of the day. and a man really bore the brunt of the harassment that day. and i like,
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apologize to him so many times and thanked him. but. and there's something to say about how targeted cameras are by that, by there's really military, right. and i hope we can discuss that more. because even at the top of the show, i mean of the trailer that we played for audience, i mean, that was a parent already on that note. i mean, you've served in the military therapy, israel, and i want to ask you now that you're giving these guided tours in hebron. i know this is part of your job with breaking the silence. tell us why you do that and what it was like for you to be part of this project. so very basically break the silence. the former soldiers like me, we. busy all serving the white very story to different places and we all share in common is the lender. then we must expose the reality of the patient. why do you mean control that the way we do and what could be true? testimonies of our own service? yeah, we already did it,
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we already did it. and now the meaning that we can do is talk about this reality. and this is the one of the reasons why we went ahead wrong. yeah. in many of our testifiers, is there any headline you can see very clearly different types of elements on the face. and i will say that the project we d 9 today, we've been together. everyone was different and usual towards the guy that they just came back from and but it would be nice. it's different because it's very rare. i mean never happened until that to walk in the fruit of hebron week in the family from hebron. yeah. and who now will need somewhere else to the land and where pushed away from it.
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and that was a very special moment where others are in the building, so unique. i'm glad you brought up her father. i've met your father and i have to say, you know, on a personal note, a real tender guy. he can be and you know, when i was watching the documentary, i was definitely struck by this part of the film. let's share it with our audience now. come back to you, take a look. oh hi baba. oh good one. how are you? oh, i want to show you. i think this is where you grew up is this is lee with so sad. i
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do not know how proud your dad is of your journalistic work and just all you've accomplished but, but that moment you walking there knowing he can't be there. what was the like for you? oh man, if you played another 30 seconds, you see me crying because a man asked how does this feel free? diana was very emotional. i mean there's, there's the guilt. there's sadness on his, you know, sadness for him. where i was standing right. there was a street where no palestinians are allowed to walk, even if they live on that street. they have to exit their homes and enter through a back entrance. and so technically, by virtue of me being palestinian american, i wasn't even supposed to be there. but i was literally standing 10 feet away or less. that's the cemetery where his parents are buried. you know where my grandparents are, my ancestors are and right above the cemetery is the house he grew up in. and just to see, you know, to think of like the memories he told me about how vibrant it was, how he used to carry a basket down there and go to the vegetable store and buy for you know,
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fruit and walk back home. his middle school was on that street. it used to be like, you know, a super busy center, a palestinian life and it's an absolute ghost town. and the only sounds you hear are the fluttering of his railey flags above. and the only people you see are some settlers and some armed soldiers. it just, it devastated me, you know, and it, and i was really sad for him. so it was, it was quite an emotionally charged moment, which i am caught on to and asked me about on camera emmons. good at that. and i'm and i, you know, when you ask edina about that, i'm curious your experience, particularly since i'm israeli soldiers killed should in a block lay things seem from afar. i haven't been there for several years now, but it seems as though it's harder to work as a journalist, it seems as though the occupation is more entrenched. what can you share with us and about what it was like, i'm trying to report this story like this fine, should anyone, it's something really like you need to think twice with the spike and the other the
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being here. and you know, it's hard to find the special lead a company that is the claim that the owner of the country in the middle east actually said for everyone to state the scene for me as someone would be living here more than 2 years. i know this more closely, it's vague when it's come to about a tide link and what they're doing to people. and we just want to show what's the life of these people. so it's become like b, u, i and i, and i'm, and i want to actually in the civically, sorry, forgive me after serene as you were just about to say, i mean, has it gotten harder for you? is your perception of your ability to move to report? do you feel more targeted, our soldiers harassing you more or more areas off limits? actually yes. especially in like i feel like whenever i want to go to the bank,
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sometimes i feel i will not go back to my house and he, but if i with jackets and everything like this and i'm coming up there. so i feel that i might me not going back to my house because of what's happened to city and, and i feel it's really good. especially with soldiers. like, i can't tell these people, they don't see anyone like on the cell, but you know, for now what i do on the right of this kind of like these 2 countries as well. but it's fine. i see enough on anyone. if i see from my camera and i'm not trying to be a stand in, i'm just trying to see what i see is what i owe to the people. this is my job. my 3rd most certainly i saw that dina, and also already were both nodding as you were, outlining the reality of what it's like to try to work on the ground. we have
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a small clip from actually the documentary that kind of illustrates this. let's play it for audience then i'll come to you or take a look. jennifer, this stuff that can lead to home. i meant home with family, with a menu and the had one. and if you need them on or as i understand it, i've been following breaking the silence for many years now. but when we look at the politics and who the israeli people are electing netanyahu, who has found to be a corrupt leader who was charged and he's somehow now made
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a comeback. i'm wondering. where is this sort of lack of consciousness of sort of the level of dehumanization that on the individual level, but also collectively they're, they're putting on this population. why in your opinion, to so many soldiers are not sort of wake up and break the silence earlier. yeah, i think it's one of the core, each of the problems here and for us is really well raised our entire life. a high school media education. everything directs us to become a older military, everything direct us and we have the most well, i mean that was a love to say about israel. israel is up and,
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and we are not being encouraged whatsoever and more importantly than that. yeah. or maybe together there is also no incentive today for an israeli to look critically of the situation. yeah. relatively. yeah. while of course we all have family members, friends who are victims of the situation as well. and people who died as a result. relatively speaking, these rays are not affected by your patient. our day to day life is barely affected . my probation i r holz aren't being made in the night and am i middle school and i appreciate this going. forgive me. i don't mean to interject, but i appreciate this point at same time. let's take another look at a clip that kind of illustrates the way in which i, you interacted with these soldiers while you were all working on this film. take a look. oh, hold on, please. leave a folder with me,
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i will see them with showing them a little above double, double jelly. mcclure. come on a go 30 evolve ago in ari i see them pushing you there. and obviously anyone who's worked on the ground or, or tried to interact with soldiers, i mean, the dehumanization is immediate an instant. and do you know, while that was all happening? i mean, could you give us a little bit more context of, was that at the beginning of the trip, what was going through your mind? did you think that maybe you wouldn't be able to report the story? i know that was literally when we had just arrived like a man had just started rolling like 30 seconds prior. we were filming me walking down. that's the 2nd check point. and i was greeting henri and his colleague, joel and right. as we were saying, hi, how are you? i'm dina. they came in and they swarmed us and for me like, you know,
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i had so much anticipation like i had studied the area. i talked to my dad, he drew me maps. i'm visiting my home town and, and it just got so tainted and you brought up shooting a block there earlier and she was my friend and she was my colleague and this was just weeks after she was murdered and she was fresh in my mind. i cannot look at an israeli soldier and not uniform the same one. you know, what was it different for you? i mean, i know you've worked there before, you've always come across quite quite stoic in your, in your deliveries and, and in the way you interact with these soldiers. was it different this time because of her loss? i mean, she was perhaps, as we all know, um maybe one of the most relentless and persistent reporters on this issue and depicting our daily life under occupation. so it was different for you, dina, this time it a 100 percent. i mean, even in 2018, a man and i were reporting, we weren't doing anything and they threw stun grenades out as i've never been under the delusion that being a journalist will somehow protect me. but when you see how shitty debacle was
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murdered in cold blood, despite wearing a helmet and press best marked press despite being a us citizen. and that moment you know, i'm thinking my us passports, not protecting me, the cameras not protecting me. and even in that same location where we were just a few weeks prior, another palestinian american journalist named highest mean was also detained by soldiers there. while she was building her show, she was taken, she was strip, searched in front of her mother, you know, for no reason. and they had one of the soldiers had the bite of his rifle in her mother stomach while she was being stripped search. i told henri, i don't know what would have happened if you guys weren't there. you know, if i didn't have to former israeli soldiers there to protect me in my home town. so there was a lot of feelings and there was a lot of thinking about shipping and i'm thinking about how these guys can do anything they want with impunity with the backing of the. and i think with the need to understand this together with the issue of the fact that it's the israel
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and the patient is great. everything can we, you know, the height is the reality. yeah. these are one of the decade before, you know, being billed by the, by the railing in there. yeah. and it's not for series, that is why don't those terrible ceiling is doing and, and we're just seeing this is lation grow more policy means dyer more so there violence more hold that will leave more home invasions. this equation is only be warranted. he's more jerry dying, more theory for a organization for the activists is becoming a mortgage people. well, and i know that you feature soldiers who are anonymous most of the time. it's not all the time. and i understand because of the fear of retribution,
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nomic leon. but i wonder it without breaking the silence and going public and being visible and, and i think so much of what i've heard is that there's, there's like sort of, there's no incentive because they don't see the occupation. it doesn't affect their lives there in israel. so i wonder with all that said, i man, you know, our colleagues should even when she was killed, we saw a complete lack of accountability, the same themes you're discussing, impunity. now 6, very long months later we've seen the f, b i in the u. s. announcing that they're going to launch an investigation. i kind of want to ask you all this. i mean, we've since then heard the white house informing israeli counterparts that they weren't involved in the decision to open this investigation. you know, kind of backtracking away from it. you know, this lack of accountability, do you have any hope? i'm not just on the issue of city and, but i am, and do you have hope and where do you draw hope from that there will be accountability for each life loss,
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but also for the broader issues that you depict in this documentary documentary are happening. i actually i feel that this country no one comes on, they just do a little. i always say that we follow that not true, but they all the same that with a lot of no action and it all the log in. and so when i need to know that i can and they can say like and done, it goes guess. so i don't feel like i when i went to gene last time, i like where we're sitting, where i'm at the office. anyone will come to me like anyone in one will have to investigate it or you can tell that a g a when
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they claim that until the election actually that is a school and that is a like i can see anything like when she goes to me a 16, it's only a military team and talking on here and i know it's, it's like it's obvious and i don't think anyone was asian. and i think when i think what so maddening is despite the, as you say, obvious facts on the ground, we still see time and time again, the ability to act with impunity. and it's, you know, in the documentary, just to bring it back to your work. you know, i wanna, i want to share with our audience a clip of a conversation you had with cell a young girl there. take a look and then we'll contact you a
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you know, on a personal note was always so troubling for me and difficult to process when i see these sorts of videos either in your work or on social media is the way that the occupation and the israeli soldiers treat or dehumanize palestinian children ah, whether abusing them interrogating them, torturing them, whatever it might be. dina watching this and being there and bearing witness if you will, seeing the father half to restrain himself. what was that like?
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i mean, just especially since the impetus of this trip was you kind of coming back to connect with your father's hometown. exactly. i mean, i haven't stopped thinking about selling since the day we met her. and i exactly had that same thought that this could have been my life as a little palestinian girl from hebron. and that could have been my father. i mean this poor child and her siblings are so traumatized. they were accused of playing with a knife right in front of their house, even though there's cameras surrounding them. improving the contrary about because a settler went and told a soldier, she had a knife, they believed him and they arrested her as we were standing there talking. you know, it's such a tense situation because their house is, you know, right above them isn't israeli settlement. they're surrounded by these illegal israeli settlers. there are nets above that alley way to catch the stones and the trash and sometimes urine that settlers throw down at them. so every little sound we hear, she looks up. and i ask her, are you afraid that they're going to throw something at you? and she said, yes, because it happened so much just a week prior. her 5 year old brother was hit by
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a rock right here and his face swelled up from a settler. and she told me, you know, we look at the settler kids, we can see them playing with their toys every single day. and we want to go out and play like that. yeah. and this just shows you the innocence of children. her brother said, wow, let's go, let's go join them and she said, we can't join them this. i'm not unfortunately, didn't. i appreciate you sharing those thoughts. we can't continue this conversation now live on air. we've run out of time, but it's an incredible documentary for those of you haven't seen it. check it out. thank you to our guests, dina, i, man and ori onn. certainly not the last time we'll be talking about this here at the stream. be sure to take a look at the documentary and let us know what you think. ah. on counting the calls will rich nations pay for climate lawson damage or visitors to promise a painful fiscal plumbing. brickle as the country faces the biggest take to living standards. thus, people scored big with the cattle well cooperating. $7500000000.00 in revenue.
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