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grease. the best face of democracy, european philosophy, and billing became more recently a country associated with the crippling debt crisis. the authority measures and economic collapse in 2015 brief, also found it felt on the frontline, the refugee crisis. my name is amanda ronnie and i come here to happen to meet 2 young active if he wants to bring about radical change addressing issues from education and inequality, the race to them, a migrant right. welcome to generation change a global theories. the attempt to understand and challenge the ideas, a mobilizing youth around the world. mm hm.
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oh, so we currently invade us, which is where you grew up, right? was there anything about growing up here that could take me motivated you to go into activism, participate in a senior governments in 5th grade, actually representing the students in many important issues as us raising money for people from lower economic backgrounds from students to participate in the school trips i helping people for families than mine to not be left behind. and your parents with a politically active. yeah, both my parents are trade unionists. but for my early ages, i remember my part and so it's telling me about how to respect every, every person, no matter their, their background, their, their status. oh
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oh, i think if you are a current founder, a youth organization could really, i mean, can you tell me with a name coming from and what your main objective that it's actually for the will. you know, i mean, you finish it for the william in initiative and noun means huge. we focused on, i organizing people and he said, says l g b t q writes women's rights, human rights in general. but also the educational crisis in their climate crisis as well. we organize people on the street level with demonstrations and strikes, but also organize a lot of open dialogue with our members and, and young people in general to talk about the important stuff that our generation
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faces. and we are now starting through to do some loving work. i actually pressing politicians to implement agendas that work for, for young people as well. back back a, the, lia ne, on isn't aligned. so political policy, how would you describe the values of it for somebody that in a different country, i think that will lead to the progressive left. we have some specific cases that are not negotiable for us, but we try to to keep the dialogue open and actually negotiate with people. or do also, we need to show people that you have to pressure this institution from the people who hold offers to actually work for you for your interest.
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the role that you were born and raised in various, but your parents originally come from albania or something like well in greece, the fact that you are born in the country or that you immigrating an early age doesn't automatically make you a greek citizen. so although i was born in greece, i was considered an albanian citizen until 2017, which meant that i had 0 civic right. but no, absolutely, no, probably can political presentation. and how are albanians to see if can greece lenient migrate in the ninety's after the dissolution of the hybrid communist state? we are currently the biggest migrate to minority. we have been traditionally targeted by the media. we have been perceived as the dangerous criminals of somebody to watch out for and in a way it hasn't made it easier for us to simulate in the great society.
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you've been involved in anti fascist movement and i wanted to know what it was about your life experiences that kind of shape your journey into activism. the moment i started being actively involved with the different movement was when i was 13 years old. that coincided a little bit with the beginning of the financial crisis in greece. if i could pinpoint a certain moment in time that really sparkle, mack, the claim it would be when the police killed a 15 year old boy. his name was alexis of growth in athens. and dr. sparkled our big movement of demonstration that the moved from from athens and spread all over greece. either book about or struggle browser represented merely different topics that we were fighting for from police brutality to a presentation to essentially a better life. ah,
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so with one of his background, i'd like to know a bit about the work that you do with migrant particularly. and so we are a non profit association. we are a collective. mm hm. for when doing in a few words is illustrating comedies in a fall. yeah, racism and all sorts of social discrimination. and we lack representation of people like us in politics and government and higher, let's say like going aspects of society. so we're really keen on promoting that element me back. thank you. petra and rosa being here to day. both of you have grown
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up during a time of enormous social and economic are people in greece. where is that, how do you think that this is defined things to your generation? well, i think when somebody is faced with adversity, there's most probably 2 ways you can go about. one of them is to we're going to put your head down and let it destroy you, and the other one is to push against it. then some holiday define you positively. i think cause i come from the generation i was facing the financial crisis and then was he bought with what they call the refugee crisis? i think um we were confronted with a lot of different r virgin gum structures and phenomenal. but most of us did come through more resilient then again, i cannot admit the truth, which is that a lot of us are faced with this adversity we. we had to fly. like i have to say that a lot of my peers, my classmates, people of my generation deeds leave greece. i think we came
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a stronger after mission. this crisis that we face as generations. something i have to do others in the last of faith in the democratic institutions. though, our generation is racing. and that is something a really difficult for people to understand this democratic her institutions can work for you. and something that we need is stronger representation of people, of our aides in the berman and in any i am, local or national or regional or please, the decisions are being made is interesting that you say the young people don't have trust in democratic institutions because the last government actually lowered the voting age to 17, and i wanted to know, he think that means that young people have more of an active voice in politics in greece. i think though it gave us a sense of responsibility because it was the 1st time that we got to vote ah, but the problem is that there the age to get elected her suit the same. it's 25 years old. so that doesn't seem anything when it comes to representation and or as
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i wanted to ask you, your experience has been different. so could you explain a bit about what your civic rights have been like in greece? yes, there is a difference between being able to participate in the system and how he feel voice hurt than actual being represented in the system. calling from what they call as a 2nd generation migrant greece, which basically means that you were either born from my grandparents increase or you my greater than early age and have lived most of your life in greece. so you have all of implications as a proper greek citizen or taxpayer. none of the city crites. and i think one of the most important things we need to understand is that you cannot vote, i think, come from a generation that has 0 visibility in the greek society. and that is exactly what we're trying to, to change with horizons to put greeks like me in the center of this herb public and putting it color. anna, when you talk about not feeling visible, do you mean specifically coming from a migrant community? not having great nationality in the 1st place,
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or do you mean generally for the generation ah, i think it's it, it represents the generation of people that have my greater heritage and the visibility and visibility that i like to play with terms also comes from the fact that you are very visible in certain terms, and that is when people call you the immigrant and the cream in owl and the foreigner, but then you invisible when it comes to anybody taking into account what you think there are lots of specific things have happened in greece, they, we call them crises, but also a global pandemic. and i wanted to know how all these things affected the education system and the experiences students i itself, well, are we, we have, we're a no, we're basic term styles or we need no basic infrastructure that we need in our schools in or in our universities. and the problem is that the current government is actually harm trying to, to turn the discussion into a different direction. does be focusing on on security,
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non police on campus. while at the same moment, we don't have some basic aspects, universities all around europe and all around the world, her house, it was specifically the, the lowering of, of, of budget her during the crisis. ah, especially the, the got that a white and between her glowing and upper classes her, when it comes to private spending in greece, i need to have to get some private tutoring to get into university. and jo, it becomes very disproportionate for people of, for working class before o 2 to be able to help their kids to prepare over their children to get into university as a way of the current conservative government said to privatize everything. we've seen that happen with healthcare and i think it's a very direct approach towards education. i think you might agree with me. we are very proud to have a public education system in greece for us. it's important to keep it public and
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the conservative government strength of that exactly opposite. we were just talking about student politics and i think around the world student pilots, excuse the left. but more generally in greece, the far right has gained popularity. most notably with the neo nazi group, the golden dawn. why do you think that's been the case here? when you have their version crisis and you have a space accountability grease that is attacked by many france then it's also on a ground that creates different possibilities. one of them is for populace narratives for eggs in a far big narratives for it creates an opportunity for extreme ideas. the con 4th, because people are struggling, read, and on top of the financial crisis down 1000 aids in 2015, you had about be called the refugee crisis. so i think the system itself gave space to golden don't exist because in that way they wanted to mainstream external radius that we actually see to day in the car. so or the government,
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we cannot lie there specific people in the structures of the current government that are also the right side of the spectrum. right. so yeah, i think it gained popularity because it needed to express the struggle in october of 2020 the golden dawn was finally criminalized, and some of the leaders were sent to prison is at the end of the story when it comes to the golden dawn and the neo nazi aspects of the far right in greece. we do not have them in the parliament. they are not in the strong public position that they were there not broadcasting half of our days in our mainstream media. but in reality, they still exist. not all of them were jade and not all of their ideas and narratives are buried somewhere beneath. right. you still have their support as the route i was talking with. some people are they still gather on publicly? they are not. people are not ashamed to say that they support the golden dawn and maybe when they because then we can talk about it ending,
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but it's definitely not the case right now. do you agree with that? that people aren't really ashamed to be associated with the golden dawn. i think the palmer got forbidden. generational decision own 2020 understood how dangerous calling on was. especially after the killing of or for bombers thesis. a famous greek musician of industry. grubber. and the people understood that it wasn't just a right wing party who was a new nazi criminal group. there was during some criminal and terrorist activities . but the ideologies is to rear and we are firm one of their members greeting a barley in greece in 2015 over 1000000 refugees and migrants landed on the shores of greece and rosa you went to work on the island of samara. what did their experience show you? yeah, i mean there was a definitely a defining experience. i think um, it is still hard for me to express what i went through. but for sure it starts me and it made me understand that if as, as immigrants had
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a really tough life and i struggle this people are having it dabbled and worst. and that comes from the fact of what they go. so when they are in the camps, back in the day, the camp was open. today they are closed security facilities and international, and yo's leg oxfam and amnesty international havoc. he is the greek government of illegal pushed back the refugees across the border and prison like refugee centers . i wanted to know if you think that the great public support these measures. i don't think that the great public support this measures, but i think the rules are like of information when it comes to the whole refugee issue increase because the media is now covering other other issues as, as the gas prices are really busy prices of the war in ukraine, so i think that especially the mainstream media have been trying to, you know, m james a dialogue and take it as, as far away as, as
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a can from. and why is that? because the government had turned camps from space that you could walk into to prison conditions. so there is, i think for me it's a targeted approach to give out as little information as possible. and actually when there is information alternative media, it's being blocked. and those journeys are being even topped and followed by the government. and i wanted to circle back. so one key point on the media in the recent international press freedom index, published by reports without borders. greece came last of all european union countries behind bulgaria and hungary. were you surprised about that? frankly speaking, not, but the contextual, if we see greece and the media landscape seems to financial crisis, what you observe is that there's been really strong to funding of the, of the young and the media services. so what media does now is they rely on public funding. what happens there is that the public funding goes to the hands of the
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media are supporting the conservative government. so you have a system that is not fair. you have a system that is not a safe, you have journalists that i know of personal investigative journalist being stopped by the government. so i think it's a, it's a matter of understanding that the ownership and the safety are really really going downhill. and i think it's a, it's important to note that the government has refuted rebel reporters without borders findings. and they've said that the majority of newspapers in greece exercised face criticism against the government better. what do you think about that response from the government? it has nothing to do with the reality we are facing increase because the press and the media here are operated by the one percent of the country. a may say who have big dies with the oil business in the shipping industry. so for me, especially when it comes to my climate activism or it was really difficult, going to do a media, we're talking about climate change and talking about how these sibling companies
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are destroying local communities. they wouldn't report because they are owned by the people who, who are creating the problems and across the world. young people attending to social media instead for news information, anything really. and i wanted to know if there was any examples in greece that highlighted how certain platforms have been used to amplify issues or bring about positive change or organization. for instance, gain popularity during the pedantic through social media, especially the instagram is he gave us the opportunity to actually talk about issues that were not being talked about in mainstream media. cuz we're talking about the educational crisis and how you remember demik. we have espn in cali 1000000000 people who could afford having like 2 computers at home or having internet access because not everybody did i wanted to make or what we actually do as well. we use social media to bring forth social change actually working for them . we had cases of refugee students have been denied the asylum and we really pushed
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a big social media campaign on is the government facebook. we went there and intervened in his school and when we actually started that through the shang, are you posting of that or do visual file? and on our, on our narrative, in our post, we actually managed to contribute into a whole system of support that got that kid, his asylum approved. it was a really interesting experience for us because we, he hasn't, we have a lot of power, meant to media doesn't give us the space, but social media it's, it's for us. the show is called generation change and i do want to know from both of you how you define your data generation compared to that of your parents. so i think that we are one of them most progressive generations. well, at the same time or with social media, sometimes we get the reason that we're active enough, but does not the case, we need to be more active willing to be more organized, cuz our friends leave a lot of fights, especially during the dictators,
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have been greece i'm wanting people to go to the streets, to organized in order to, to actually change something in order to be represented more are but i'm up to mr. williams to, to my generation being are politically active. and rosie, your experience has been quite different to that of your parents because they came over here from another country. how do you see a world view as being different to that as well? i think this is true for most kids that come from my grandparents. we are raised with a bunch of her, her symptoms. you have to add, like come to terms with the fact that your parents have sacrificed most of their lives in liberty and freedoms for you to enjoy some of what you consider as a bow like the basic human rights. that yes, education and the ext proper housing, i grew up being poor for a certain like part of my life. so i know that my parents had to go through that
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struggle where more than i did. so yeah, i feel privileged. i feel honored and i feel thankful for their sacrifice, but my job is to make sure that my generation does have to do that for the next pictures. trulia is non partisan. it is outside of the system at the moment. do you think that in the future you're going to have to work within the system in order to bring about change? sometimes we also work with the system or that time, cuz are this is when it comes to, to talking with members of agreement or representatives. we get into conversations with them. i mean, employees on organization would be very, very difficult for us because at the moment we, we cannot find ourselves or being represented in our interests been represented by a specific party. that is a very, a very huge problem for frozen reason. we need to be represented and heard more and when into a political part of the we'll talk about our problems enough, especially education system and the working or the working rights
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issue that people are facing non racial. i also want to ask you this question or as i, i know that previously had been very anti system, but now you work in brussels, which is the heart of the european system. how did that happen and is that just in a visibility you getting a bit older? definitely, i think are the more into understand that sir, by your screaming on the outside, you bring forth a specific and minimize changed. comes also in no, honey, hard with being a bit older guess as you mature, i think at least for me and then doesn't have to be the guest for everybody. i understood that in order to change a system, you need to 1st empower yourself and protect yourself and then enter that system in order to change it from within. and i think that's how change it by bringing people like us in position of power so that they can influence the new
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legislation and the new decisions that are going to then influence the whole society. i cannot find any other way. and finally, after all of the things we've talked about, all of the crises, all of the issues, all of the problems, why do you care about change? and do you think that it is realistic and possible? i think gonna do it cuz we have some great examples of, of teams being made, but it needs a lot of work and it's a lot of people understanding that they have to be active enough, especially greece. he says that we have been going through so many crisis, but we are power powerful enough to, to actually fight for, for our basic rights fight for our representation. and i'm optimistic that our generation is going to be able to understand and be more inclusive in a way of making change possible for, for everybody. i,
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one of my life haven't got that. i can't do the things. it starts from being an immigrant, then it goes to being a woman and then goes to being weaker for and in reality to where we stand today. and i think that i am living proof that you can start from last think and push against the system push, i guess i every obstacle brings you and there is way more brilliant examples than me. but this is where we have today. yeah, i feel like come here to empower people and sometimes or present them. so in a way i find this motive because there is a lot of work to be done. they trust that thank you very much for being here today . that's all for this episode of generation change in greece. ah
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