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hi, anthony ok 2022 was a beaky, f. a workers organizing themselves into unions. we are going to look at the rise of the union. these meant 2022 style and why it has happened. we start with patricia union, morgan a senior under rice, united states because workers i challenge in the narrative from corporate america, the easter fall, they hand by jobs. young people, workers in general. one is the ability, they want economic security, they wanna voice, i work there organizing because they're demanding respect inver clinician with their contribution to our economy. that's the way that organizing allow you to jordan and layla and dave. so get to have you on board on this show what a remark will show to be in 2022. talking about the rise of the union movement. i'm going to ask you to introduce yourself and, and then we'll get
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a conversation started. jordan, tell us who you are and what you're doing. oh, my name is jordan. wow, is 24. i'm cool. found of amazon every union in congress of central acres and i've been able get medicine for 3 years. and i amazon j of k, ought to have lola, welcome to the state, tell us what you are, what you day. hi, i'm layla dalton, i'm 20 years old. i started about one year ago, was workers united trying to form a union that starbucks and it's been a journey. but now i consider myself an activist for unions. welcome and holiday fleecing sheesh herself to audience around the world. what is there, jamison? i'm a reporter at huff post, formerly known as huffington post, and i cover labor issues. if you don't to be part of this conversation, you can, we are on youtube where live right now. jumping to the comment section, if you've got a question for dave or layla or jordan, please go ahead. drop back on that question in and be part of today's show. jordan
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layla, i love that you said your eighty's i. i was not expecting that, but i am sure that our audience will be leading in during your 20 for later your 20 . you are the new face of, of the union movement in the united states. layla. how did you learn about what a union is? what a union can do for you. how long did that take? well, i would say that throughout my journey at starbuck it's, there's been a lot of rough and downs. and i would say that i was pushed to my when, when i had just gotten out of the hospital and i was trying to ask for some accommodations. and that's when i talked to my total leader, who was also my co worker at the time. phil whitmire and he told me what the union was when i thought i had to quit. i thought i did everything possible. and in
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a sentence, now you've experience that now that you're an organizer union is how would you describe it from your pastoral perspective? i would say that a union is a group of workers who come together and they want to come to the table and bargain and want to be heard don't. and we've had so much about the problems within amazon and mostly because work as a said, we're going to speak out. we're going to tell you, you order a pass. so this is what happens behind the scenes. so what point did you realize that you had to do something? you weren't just going to suffer as a worker. so i didn't, i worked a duke kid september 20th 2018 the opening day. i have a medical issue called lucas on fridays i had about 13 years amazon or for me medical benefits. and it was great efforts were determined to me 3 times and my recent termination, september 23rd in 2022. or they said i voluntarily resign, which i didn't,
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i was wanting to know for accommodations for my my medical issue. so i see in there that they will 20 care me from where we walked out, when christmas got terminated. and i had to take the students that you know, lucas need to be spoken. oh, it just got stated john, i want to stay with dana beckers. people around the world may, may not have known about your struggles. i'm just gonna get them up to speed on that. so j f k festival is a warehouse on staten island. it's an amazon warehouse. you. yeah. so, so you had health issues that weren't being address, you were terminated and then you thought what? they will treat me fairly in that anyone in my shoes who beach with like there at the same time, people with our medical issues as being treat the same way. so my community were all affected in some sort of way without accommodations or any to believe help. so there's, there's, there's, there was, were, or are motivated me to organize my community a g t o. think that house and, and coalitions were, was
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a catalyst for why we seemed so much organizing in the past were at that is my theory. but i'm also going to bring up vanessa. barnes sees a professor, an author at cornell university. they have a listen to vanessa, and then respond immediately of the back of how she's framing. what is happening right now with workers and unions? his i think seeing how organizations were able to respond to the coven. 19 pandemic has really emboldened unions and workers. we saw things we didn't think were possible. we saw organizations completely pivot, changed the nature of work and still maintain productivity and profit. and so unions are pointing to this and saying when employers are sufficiently motivated, they can make big changes. so here are a bunch more big changes that we think are important and overdue. i think that makes a lot of sense. i've talked to a lot of workers throughout the pandemic. and one thing that so many of them say is that coven 19,
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and the experience of working through it kind of ripped open and laid bare all of these things, these problems that they had with their jobs and were reluctant to speak out about them previously. and so i think, you know, what we've seen with people literally facing death on the job in a lot of industries. is that, you know, coven made them so fed up with certain things at work that they were willing to take steps that they weren't willing to previously. and so there's been a, you know, a lot of different factors and some of these really notable union campaigns that, like we seen historic ones like at starbucks. and like at amazon, by think, you know, coven 19 has certainly been a thread running through all of this work, where people essentially said, i feel like my employer doesn't really care about me. and i'm going to rally with my co workers and, and find a way to make, make the boss here what we have to say. i think the start of this was a lot of health issues. i'm letting you mentioned how this was just doing a mental health issues and you can employ is like her that makes you mad, right?
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ala? oh yes, that it hurts because unfortunately my health issue was not is it is not as bad as people like jordan. my friend tyler, and it's unfortunate that if i am going through those, i can't imagine what other people can be going through was worse health issue. so i'm thinking like you're at starbucks. jordan, you were at amazon. he's a big companies with resources. don't. what do you think the amazon wasn't able to be more flexible? i was package is definitely profit. it was a time to exclude is a lot of people. new job is that amazon was the only company open for people to come in and i haven't traveled spot, so it's no interview for amazon. you apply what you get the job. so amazon use
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a myself to come in and abuse us during colby voices and a lot of public support for unions, which is really interesting about where we are in 2022 days. when you're reporting about labor unions and, and labor disputes, what are you getting the sense from what sent you getting from the public in the united states about how supportive they are. of these big companies, some of them big companies and workers organizing their which is really a david and goliath situation. i a little person. thank you. on a big company and many little companies around the country. how does the public be happening? so we know from annual polling that the gallup polling entity does every year, they measure the public satisfaction or dissatisfaction with labor unions. and right now it's a decades long high, you know, the approval of unions has been steadily climbing for years now. and you know,
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i think cove id probably help reinforce that a little bit. but it's important to keep in mind that even when the public supports unions and when workers want to, to be in unions, it's actually very difficult, can be extremely difficult to unionize. in the united states, you know, people just think the simple as well, you just kind of go have a vote and either you want it or you don't, but they don't realize that the employer has a long period where they can really aggressively counter campaign the union they have essentially, you know, round the clock access to the workers in a way that the unions do not. so employers are constantly making their case against unionization. there are legal boundaries around this, and employers are often going over them. they're illegally coercing workers. and so a lot of workers are often stunned by how. busy aggressive the counter campaign is that that's unleashed by their employer. and i'm going to share some video from
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starbucks workers strike on november. the 17th. this is, it's starbucks work is organized, but then starbucks, he's not having a negotiation wisdom. and so you can have a union, but that 1st contract that you have that can take some time to get together. let me show you that the strike situation on november. the 17th here is oh we're on strike because we are fighting for better scheduling. fair wages, a failure to bargain from starbuck they have not decided to bargain with the union, which is an illegal activity. they've been stalling, they've been doing their best law. oh boy, it laid out how hard is that journey from the getting your colleagues together, which is generally in secret, forming your union and then saying, okay,
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this is what we want. how, how does that tell us? well, it's extremely hard. it was harder than i expect. i definitely think my co leader and i were trying to get this going and trying the file for a union within a week. and unfortunately, within a couple of days, we told the wrong person who was actually against unions. and she goes and tells management, and that's what happens. someone tells management they get when the union and then they try and find the way to either. right. you all try and get you to quit by making your life very difficult. maybe it's called clopin. so you have to close and then open the next day and it's trying to make you quit and make your life is horrible. what was the worst point of you when you were organizing the union? what was the point where you just felt this, even with it?
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i definitely i never had a time where i said was even worth it because i knew how much i gave the starbucks, how much i cared for my workers, for management, for the customers. so i knew that if i put in all this work and i love something so much, then they're going to keep doing this to my best friends, to people all around the world. so as much as it got, it got really hard. there's times i want to give up, but i knew i couldn't give up and i knew it would always be worth it on the chain. i'm just going to bring in some thoughts page what i will be nice to get your reaction to them. a key challenge for new unions is maintaining momentum after certificate cation vote, for edification vote, and continuing to build power on the shop floor in ways that challenge management's control of the workplace. did you see that? did you find that in, in your situation with amazon?
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definitely with union buses, major major issue. they were having classes like almost every 20 minutes, the class of 50 workers, full management, and we see you see the amazon was going to continuously do that and it was going to stop. they were, we were falling u l. p. 's poll. sorry, unfair labor practice. again breaking we blows. yeah. how you where we can you go? yeah, we can you go high? yeah. the big in the there we can be below is that and again we're, we're sudden all right, as employees and a chill and work as a vino v coming together that form in the work lead unions, you know, is grassroots b, me, chris, eric and gerald, you started there, and we been info for years, so we know that community in there, so definitely with the union bus in the the way they bumped it up and it was a major,
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major challenge. also just analogous watching right now said i think many things led to the increase of support of union labor as like economics, inflation covered 19 shortage of waters work as, as a whole list of them. do you recognize that dave? when you'll daniel reporting a you seen face not one thing that's a catalyst that many things and making luck is gonna actually lean meat organize. yeah, i think it's also important to take a long historical view here to unions used to be pretty robust in the u. s. after world war 2 union membership. it was around a 3rd of the u. s. workforce was was, were union members. that's down to one in 10 now and that number's including the public sector when you take them out. public sector as has strong union density, remove them in the private sector. it's down to 6 percent rights. are you talking one out of every 16 workers that sit in the private sector are members of unions. i think a lot of americans are coming around to the idea that maybe they do serve some,
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some important function here. when union density is dropped so low and they see that that there really is no kind of counter veiling force to manage men into corporation. so i think that's one reason why a lot of people, the general public and workers in particular sees see a need for unionism right now. i want to add, and it's really important because we're talking about as late as experienced with starbucks and jordan's experience with amazon and, and many of the small and large companies around the u. s. who are having issues with not being able to organize and work is not being asked to organize. we did ask amazon and we asked starbucks to be part of this program to participate, or even just to give us a statement. and they didn't respond to us at all. and wilma liebman, her layla's, smiling, woman leman, brings up a really important point later. we haven't listened to this because it's not easy.
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the road that you are on heels, wilma, and please respond to the point that she brings out. employers typically are not that anxious to have to reach that for 1st agreement. and so they will very often drag out the process. perhaps going through the motions of good faith bargaining, but nonetheless, dragging out the process for as long as possible. and relatedly one or both parties are likely to be leo fight to collect a bargaining. and that in and of itself, provides an obstacle to reaching a 1st agreement. i'm just thinking that where did you go to learn about collective bargaining? well, honestly, i learned a lot of it from my union rep when i honestly didn't know what a union was and as much as my co leader told me, this is what a union is. this is how you get started. a lot,
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a lot. you have to learn it on the way by and children. it's definitely a learning experience. i mean my mom was 1199. so, i mean, i got the benefits when i were younger, but i may be being now with amazon, the big corporation. i mean, you know, they're going to stall out. we know the games are going to play. so, i mean, definitely it was, it was, it was actively learning and then you know, again from off 1199. so yeah, i'm just also thinking about the fear factor, like the risk of you losing your job. what's the worst that can happen? the stress of needing later at 20 your leader. yeah, i mean, i started when i was 19, it's january 20th or 21st of 20. 22 is when i decided i want to start union. and unfortunately in less than
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a couple of days i did get the right up. i did get taken into the back with corrective actions that had about 2 pages, almost about maybe a page and a half. so once i realize that they do catch when it's a very scary thing, because starbucks, they give you other benefits. i was going to college through starbuck and they did pay for most of it. so it's very unfortunate that it's gotten to the point that workers are getting scared to unionize because starbucks is firing people left and right. there's been almost $200.00 workers fired. so it's a scary thing, but we do know it will be worth it. once we win total lay, i'm just wondering, what do you think goes on with companies that the big companies or any company? all they in 2022. i felt like the labor movement back in the fifties and sixties and seventies. we learn so much about how do you treat workers,
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what do they deserve, what is the respect and dignity that they deserve? why do we not appear to have it now? what happened? do you think layla i think that people got lost in making money and didn't really realize that what they're doing, the bigger your company gets, the harder is going to be to make sure everyone is treating everyone right and making sure the rules are being followed. so i think that big corporations, like starbucks and amazon, there are so giant that it's very hard to make sure. management is doing everything right. and i think that they don't want to go the extra step because they're very greedy and they pick profit over people that go ahead. yeah, i once had a, a management side attorney. that's someone who represents companies say to me that
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when a company is dealing with the possibility of a union, that their value can tend to go out the window, which i thought was very funny. did there is something about the prospect of a union, the possibility of a company having to bargain, sit down at a table with, with their workers directly on par, that i think frightens a lot of companies. and so it's very different when you're talking about a, a company that a traditionally non union like amazon, they very, very aggressive. we did not want a union to get a toe hold in there. and it's important to note that before jordan's union won an election on staten island, there was a different election down in alabama. and amazon was founded, broken the law, and that they illegally attain the vote. and a 2nd to over election was ordered by, by officials. and so there's tons of allegations against starbucks right now over a legal firings and store closures. starbucks maintains that none of it was retaliatory, but that's all going to be litigated. and i think people because of the high
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profile nature of some of these campaigns that are happening, i think the public is finally seeing what really goes on when, when, when workers tried to start to unionize some sorts here undo chip. randy doesn't seem to be quite a fan of unions. he says the issues with unions is that they do not do what they promise. they take your money in june and give you nothing in return. that feels like a very old score approach to unions. jordan 24 year old jordan. tell me why randy is wrong. again, i'd be terminated 3 times due to my health issue. i've gotten no accommodations, no type of a b recommendations. no type of work. i'm sorry papa leave a proper p indefinitely because a medical issue, an amazon is very, very hard, especially we just had to jackie, i've been treated as failure. you know, these workers are these workers. i was to have family of kids, your parents, you have to go to the, you know,
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these were going to wake up every day and scarce like them and i have a job the next day. oh, i are wandering. they was a big difference between organizing in the fifty's and organizing in the 2022 is what tools that you have available. how do you connect with people? and chris smalls is one of your co union organizers, jordan, and in april it was such an interesting experience because he managed in you manage . and the group of you managed to, to put a union in amazon that warehouse that j f k warehouse. this is how chris described that experience and how he did it. wave made his state to day. i said he meant a lot of people doubted us, and they know who they are. it is support us. we're 1111 months. everybody knows that. you know, we, we raise might to go funding. we raised pennies. we had like 3000 our count just 3
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weeks ago. so that just tells you how grass roots his campaign is. we had nothing. we started off with 2 tables, 2 chairs and a tank. and se, wait a, that secret ingredient 3 until as annual organized alleys are flexible. oh, christine is made this up. again. it's again it's, it's the, it's the voice that we had put out. it was the congress of essential workers. we had, i traveled the world from the east coast to washington, dc. he actually just has a house in the embassy. i should mention that it has been our house in the west coast in california. we went and rarely and you know, people, people see that you would explain with an amazon and explain the damages that they would want to their employees. and again, my chris said 2 tables, 2 chairs, attend all these long nights. sleep was days, sometimes 24 hours on the property that you know,
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just given church. so given food out, actively engaged with workers and then sort of freedom workers inside that. again, that's what really motivated me, chris dirt. and gerald at the beginning in our team came to what support it. and again, with our given gp had got us victory, actively engaged in feeding workers until jordan and la la, i'm told for sharing your experience if the union movement 2022 style tennis he's on, you chief says the same is happening in the u. k. nurses are going on strike ambulance drivers as well. i've been underpaid. yes. this is an ongoing conversation. every really interesting to see what happens next in the us. but thanks so much for watching the show today. and looking at the new union movement in the united states, i think next time ah ah
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