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if and a child killed, others made quiet by the most 96000 people displaced by gangs in the capital alone. these people have been displaced, not once, but twice. first i fled gang violence in. take this delay, perhaps the most dangerous part of put a crown with others at the airport. and then what happened is we'll start, he chased them out. so they came here to the cb all's already hoping to get something. what they get a piece of paper from the paper is angry. neither food nor shelter has been forthcoming. others hand me this single document which a to the some where they did belong before the gang struck by they started shooting, we had to jump in though. i mean, there was a lot of us, we had to one in high laid down and wait for the right time to come out. so we could leave. then they, the capital hugo chavez, square, 3000 displaced residence from the neighborhood of city to lay where the united
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nations assesses 19000 people face catastrophic hunger. they camped on the square concrete. well, i don't know what was the last time i had a problem. because we've been living at the camp is sleeping on the ground at night it's freezing, cold winter rain, rain on us. that was until authorities surrounded the square with a brand new fence and tossed them out. in a matter of hours. when i was asleep tonight, i in the street in the suite, we have nowhere to go to sleep. the local administration says the number speaking 8 here is swelled because local to arms from city. so a, so an opportunity for a handout, a young man provides evidence of its own in this city, were up to $200.00 gangs of fighting territory, leading display citizens with nothing more than a scrap of paper to call their own prove 10, put,
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ah, this is al jazeera and these are the top stories. the sour, french president, a menu al mccaul is in washington for a state visit. he began his trip with a dinner with president joe biden. earlier. he criticized us subsidies towards european companies, saying they were super aggressive brushes. foreign minister says previous relations with the west will not be restored at a news conference. so gay leverage said western powers had a real chance to avoid conflict in ukraine. but dave rejected russian proposals to halt nato expansion. an independent panel in south africa has found presidents several remo further violated his oath of office. the panel was set up after millions of dollars was found in a sofa at his private farm. the president denies any wrong doing and has not been
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charged with any crime. at least to palestinians have been killed during an israeli ride in the occupied with bank. several others were wounded. palestinian factions, a calling for a general strike in response to the incidents the you in says the number of people who will need humanitarian aid next year has climbed by milly a quarter. it's appealing for a record $51500000000.00 to fund its operations. those are the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera after the stream up next. ah did with
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high i'm for the ok 2020 t was a big year for workers organizing themselves into unions. we are going to look at the rise of the union movement 2022 style and why it has happened. we start with patricia union, morgan, a seniors under rising united states because workers, i challenge in the narrative from corporate america, the easter full to hand by jobs. young people, workers in general, one's ability, they one economic security, they wanna voice, i work there organizing because they're demanding respect inver clinician with their contribution to our economy. that's why the organizing allow you to georgia and, and layla and dave. so get to have you on board only show what a remarkable show to be in 2022. talking about the rise of the union movement. i'm going to ask you to introduce yourself and, and then we get
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a conversation started. children tell us who you are. and what you're doing oh, my name is jordan cow is 24. i'm cool, found of amazon libby union and congress of such workers. and i've been elegant eisen for 3 years, and i amazon jeff k for to have lola. welcome to the state, tell us what you are, what you day. hi, i'm layla dalton, i'm 20 years old. i started about one year ago with workers united, trying the former union, starbucks, and it's been a journey, but now i consider myself an activist for union. welcome and highlight a facing shift yourself to audience around the world. what is their jamison? i'm a reporter at health post, formerly known as healthy and post. and i cover labor issues. if you want to be part of this conversation, you can, we are on youtube, where i live right now. jumping to the comment section, if you've got a question for dave or layla or jordan, please go ahead. drop back on that question in
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a be part of today show jordan layla. i know that you said you're eighty's i. i was not expecting that, but i'm sure the audience will be leading in jordan your 24 later. you'll 20. you are the new face of, of the unit movement in the united states. layla. how did you learn about what a union is? what a union can do for you. how long did that take? well, i would say that throughout my journey at starbucks it's, there's been a lot of rough and downs. and i would say that i was pushed to my limit when i had just gotten out of the hospital and i was trying to ask for some accommodations. and that's when i talked to my co leader who was also my co worker at the time. bill went meyer and he told me what the union was when i saw i had to quit, i thought i did everything possible. and in a sentence,
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now you've experienced it now that you're an organizer, a union is how would you describe it from your personal perspective. i would say that a union is a group of workers who come together and they want to come to the table and bargain and want to be heard. jordan, we've had so much about the problems within amazon, mostly because workers are said we're going to speak out. we're gonna tell you, you order a parcel. this is what happens behind the scenes. so at what point did you realize that you had to do something? you weren't just going to suffer as a worker. so little i worked there, jackie, september 28th 2018. the opening day. i have a medical issue called lucas on fridays. i had 13 years amazon or for me medical benefits, and it was great effort, but they terminated me 3 times and my recent termination, september 23rd in 2022. or they said a voluntarily resign, which i didn't. i was wanting to know for accommodations for my my medical issue.
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so i see in there that they will trinity hear me from where we walked out when christmas got terminated. i think the students that you know, lucas need to be spoken of her daughter. i'm just going to really don't wanna say dana beckers, people around the world may, may not have known about your struggles. i'm just gonna get them up to speed on that. so j f k festival is a warehouse on staten island. it's an amazon warehouse. you. yeah, so, so you had health issues that weren't being addressed, you were terminated and then you thought what? they were treating me much fairly in that 80, when the, my shoes would be too late. they're the same term, people with our medical issues as being treated the same way. so my community were all affected in some sort of way without accommodations or any to believe hope. so there's, there's fear there was, were, or are motivated me to organize my community a g t. i think that house and, and coalitions were, was a catalyst for why we seemed so much organizing in the past year at that is my
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theory. but i'm also going to bring up vanessa. barnes sees a professor and author at cornell university. they've have a listen to vanessa and then respond immediately of the back of how she's framing what is happening right now with workers and unions. his i think, seeing how organizations were able to respond to the coven 19 pandemic, has really emboldened unions and workers. we saw things we didn't think were possible. we saw organizations completely pivot, change the nature of work, and still maintain productivity and profit. and so unions are pointing to this and saying when employers are sufficiently motivated, they can make big changes. so here are a bunch more big changes that we think are important and overdue. i think that makes a lot of sense. i've talked to a lot of workers throughout the pandemic. and one thing that so many of them say is that coven 19,
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and the experience of working through it kind of ripped open and laid bare all of these things, these problems that they had with their jobs and were reluctant to speak out about them previously. and so i think, you know, what we've seen with people literally facing death on the job in a lot of industries. is that, you know, coven made them so fed up with certain things at work that they were willing to take steps that they weren't willing to previously. and so there's been, you know, a lot of different factors and some of these really notable union campaigns that, like we seen historic ones like at starbucks. and like at amazon, by think, you know, coven 19, has certainly been a thread running through all of this work. where people essentially said, i feel like my employer doesn't really care about me. and i'm going to rally with my co workers and, and find a way to make, make the boss here what we have to say. i think the start of this was a lot of health issues. i'm letting you mentioned how if we're still at 20 mentioned health issues and you can employ is like that makes you mad, right?
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ala? oh yes, that it hurts because unfortunately my health issue was not is it is not as bad as people like jordan, my friend tyler. and it's unfortunate that if i am going through those, i can't imagine what other people can be going through was worse health issue. so i'm thinking like you're at starbucks. jordan, you were at amazon. these are big companies with resources. don't. what do you think the amazon wasn't able to be more flexible? i was package if we profit it was a time to exclude. a lot of people with amazon was the only company open for people to come in and i haven't jobs. so it's an interview for amazon, you apply what grade it and you get the job. so amazon use
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a such as myself to come in and abuse us during called it was sent a lot of public support for unions, which is really interesting about where we are in 2022. dave, when you're reporting about labor unions and, and labor disputes, what are you getting the sense from what sent you getting from the public in the united states about how supportive they are. of these big companies, some of them big companies and workers organizing their it is really a david and goliath situation. i, the little person taking on a big company and many little companies around the country house, the public, the entity. so we know from annual polling that the gallup polling entity does every year, they measure the public satisfaction or dissatisfaction with labor unions. and right now it's, it's at a decades long, high a, you know, it, the, the approval of unions has been steadily climbing ah, for years now. and, you know,
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i think cove id probably help reinforce that a little bit. but it's important to keep in mind that, that even when the public supports unions and when workers want to, to be in unions, it's actually very difficult, can be extremely difficult to unionize in the united states. you know, people just think it's as simple as well. you just kind of go have a vote neither you monitor, you don't, but they don't realize that the employer has a long period where they can really aggressively counter campaign the union. they have essentially, you know, round the clock access to the workers in a way that the unions do not. so employers are constantly making their case against unionization. there are legal boundaries around this, and employers are, are often going over them, other illegally coercing workers. and so it, a lot of workers are often stunned by how aggressive the counter campaign is that that's on least by, by their employer. when i'm going to shy,
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i sent some video film at starbucks. lucky strike on november the 17th. if you could fax locus organized, but then stomach sees not having a negotiation with them. and so you can have a union that you back fest contract that you have. i can take some time to get together and show you that the strike situation on november the 17th perez. oh we're on strike because we are fighting for better scheduling fair wages and um failure to bargain from starbuck, they have not decided to bargain with the union, which is an illegal activity. they've been stalling. they've been doing their best to law. avoid us late at how hard is that journey from the getting your colleagues together, which is generally in secret, forming your union and then saying ok, this is what we want. how,
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how does that tell us? well, it's extremely hard. it was harder than i expect. i definitely think my co leader and i were trying to get those going and trying the file for a union within a week. and unfortunately, within a couple of days, we told the wrong person who was actually against unions. and she goes and tells management. and that's what happens, someone tells management they get when the union and then they try and find a way to either write you all, try and get you to quit by making your life very difficult. maybe it's called the clopin, so you have to close and then open the next day, and it's trying to make you quit and make your life just horrible. what was the worst point of you when you were organizing the unit? what was the point where you just felt this is even worth it?
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i definitely i never had a time where i said was the even worth it because i knew how much i gave the starbucks how much i cared for my workers for management, for the customers. so i knew that if i put in all this work and i love something so much, then they're going to keep doing this to my best friends, to people all around the world. so as much as it's got, it got really hard. there's times i wanted to give up, but i knew i couldn't give up and i knew it would always be worth it on you chin. i'm just going to bring in some thoughts here to what i will be nice to get your reaction to them. a key challenge for new unions is maintaining momentum after certification vote certification vote, and continuing to build power on the shop floor in ways that challenge management's control of the workplace. uh, did you see that? did you find that in, in your situation with amazon?
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i definitely with a union busting a major major issue, are they were having classes like almost every 20 minutes of the class of 50 workers, full management and we received, you see in there and was always going to continuously do the area. there wasn't going to start. there were, while we were falling. you opie's. oh paul. oh sorry. i'm fairly with the product is again, breaking the blog summary as employees and i a chill and work as a vino v coming together that a form and a worker lead union a, you know, is grassroots b, me, chris, eric and gerald. you started there and we been info for years, so we know that community in there, so definitely with the union bus in the the way they bumped it up and it was a major, major challenge. also just analogous watching, right? miles had, i think many things led to the increase of support of union labor as like economics, inflation covered 19 shortage of waters work as, as
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a whole list of them. do you recognize that dave? when you'll daniel reporting a you sing base? not one thing that's a catalyst that many things and making luck is gonna actually lead me to organize. yeah, i think it's also important to take a long historical view here to unions used to be pretty robust in the u. s. after world war 2, union membership, it was around a 3rd of the us workforce was was we're, we're union members. that's down to one in 10 now. and that number's including the public sector when you take them out public sector as a strong union density, remove them in the private sector. it's down to 6 percent rights. are you talking? one out of every 16 workers that sit in the private sector are members of unions. i think a lot of americans are, are coming around to the idea that maybe they do serve some, some important function here. when union density is drops so low and they see that that there really is no kind of countervailing force to manage men into corporation
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. so i think that's one reason why a lot of people, a general public and workers in particular sees see a need for unionism right now. i want to add, and it's really important because we're talking about as late as experienced with starbucks and jordan's experience with amazon and, and many of the small and large companies around the us who are having issues with not being able to organize and work is not being asked to organize, we did ask amazon and we asked starbucks to be part of this program to participate, or even just to give us a statement. and they didn't respond to us at all. and wilma liebman, her layla's, smiling, woman leman, brings up a really important point later. we haven't listened to this because it's not easy. the road that you are on heels, wilma, and please respond to the point that she brings out the employers typically are not
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that anxious to have to reach said for 1st agreement. and so they will very often drag out the process, perhaps going through the motions of good faith bargaining, but nonetheless, dragging out the process for as long as possible. and relatedly one or both parties are likely to be leo fight to collect a bargaining. and that in and of itself, provides an obstacle to reaching a 1st agreement. now to thinking that, where did you go to learn about collective bargaining? well, honestly, i learned a lot of it from my union rep when i honestly didn't know what a union was and as much as my co leader told me, this is what a union is. this is how you get started. a lot, a lot. you have to learn it on the way my children it's definitely a learning experience. i mean my mom was 1199. so i mean,
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i'd have to the benefits when i was younger, but i may be being now with amazon that the cooperation. i mean, you know, they're going to stall out, we know the games are going to play. so, i mean, definitely it was, it was, it was actively learning and then, you know, again, i'm also loving that. yeah. i'm just also thinking about the fear factor is like the risk of you losing your job. what's the worst that can happen? the stress of needing layla at 20 your leader. yeah, i mean, i started when i was 19, it's january 20th or 21st of 20. 22 is when i decided i want to start union. and unfortunately in less than a couple of days i did get the right up. i did get taken into the back with corrective actions that had about 2 pages, almost about maybe a page and
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a half. so once i realize that they do catch when it's a very scary thing, because starbucks, they give you other benefits. i was going to college through starbuck and they did pay for most of it. so it's very unfortunate that it's gotten to the point that workers are getting scared to unionize because starbucks is firing people left and right. there's been almost $200.00 workers fired. so it's a scary thing, but we do know it will be worth it once we, when suddenly i'm just wondering, what do you think goes on with companies that the big companies or any company. all they in 2022. i felt like the labor movement back in the fifties and the sixties and seventies. we learn so much about how do you treat workers, what do they deserve, what is the respect and dignity that they deserve? why do we not appear to have it now? what happened, do you think later i think that people got lost
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in making money and didn't really realize that what they're doing, the bigger your company gets, the harder it's going to be to make sure everyone's treating everyone right. making sure the rules are being followed. so i think that the corporations, like starbucks and amazon, they're so giant that it's very hard to make sure. management is doing everything right. and i think that they don't want to go the extra step because they're very greedy and they pick profit over people. thank guess yeah, i once had a, a management side attorney that someone who represents our companies say to me that that when a company is dealing with the possibility of a union, that their values tend tend to go out the window, which i thought was very funny did there is something about the prospect of
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a union, the possibility of a company having to bargain, sit down at a table with, with their workers directly on par, that i think frightens a lot of companies. and so it's very different when you're talking about a, a company that is traditionally non union like amazon, they very, very aggressively did not want a union to get a tow hold in there. and it's important to note that before jordan's union won an election on, on staten island, there was a different election down in alabama. and amazon was found to have broken the law, and that, that they illegally tainted the vote in a 2nd to over election was ordered by, by officials. and so, and there's tons of allegations against starbucks right now over a legal firings and store closures. i could, starbucks maintains that none of it was retaliatory, but that's all going to be litigated. i think people because of the high profile nature, some of these campaigns that are happening, i think the public is finally seeing what really goes on when, when, when workers try to start to unionize some phyllis here anew. chief randy doesn't
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seem to be quite a fan of unions. he says the issues with unions is that they do not do what they promise. i take your money in teams and give you nothing in return. that feels like a very old school approach to union stoughton 24 year old. didn't tell me when i ran this wrong again, i'd be terminated 3 times. due to my health issue. i've gotten the accommodations. no type of a b recommendations. no type of work. i'm sorry, papa leave the proper pay indefinitely because a medical issue in amazon is very, very high. especially beach to fires in a g o. d would treat him is failure. you know, these workers are, these workers have was to have family. they have kids. yeah. parents, you have to go to the, you know, these workers, the week of every day. excuse me, man, i have a job the next day or i want wrong. there was a big difference between organizing in the fifty's and organizing in the 2022 is
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what tools that you have available. how do you connect with people? and christmas is one of your co union organizers, jordan and in april it was such an interesting experience because he managed and you manage. and the group of you managed to, to put a union in amazon that warehouse that j. f k. where have this is how chris described that experience and how he did it. a lot of people doubt it, us and they know who they are. it is support us will allow them 11 months. everybody knows that. you know, we, we raised my to go funding. we raised pennies, we had like 3000 our colleges 3 weeks ago. so this tells you how grass roots is. care plan is. we had nothing. we started off with 2 tables, 2 chairs, and
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a tank. and se, wait a, that secret ingredient $3.00 and you were organized. how is that possible? oh, christine is dismiss this. ah, again, it's again it's, it's the, it's the voice that we had put out. it was the congress of central workers. we had, i traveled the world from the east coast to washington, d. c. he actually just has a house in the embassy. i should mention that it has been our house in the west coast in california. we went and rarely did you know, people see that we would be, would explain, was an amazon and explain the damages that they were doing to their employees. and again, my chris said 2 tables, 2 chairs at st. toward is long. my sleep was days, sometimes 24 hours on the property that a, you know, just given church oh, given food out, actively engaged with workers and then sort of freedom the work is inside. then again that that's what really motivated me, chris, dirt. and gerald at the beginning in our team came to what support it and again
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with our could and gp had got us the victory. i actively engaged in feeding workers until jordan and la la, i'm told for sharing your experience of the uni movement. 2022 style tanif. he's a new chief says the same is happening in the you cow. nurses are going on strike ambulance drivers as well. i've been underpaid for years. this is an ongoing conversation. and every really interesting to see what happens next in the us, but thanks so much for watching the show today and looking at the new union movement in the united states. i think next time a new series. exploring how traditional knowledge from indigenous community is helping tackle to these environmental catastrophe. we journey across new mexico and meet those who fight to protect their culture and raise awareness of the impact of
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