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of hands out loud down on some occasions they can battle it out in the stands with their voice. with them. i suppose that bands often called the 12th man on the team . the recipe, you know, having your team behind you having everyone is chanting, pushing you on. what else with things about the half an hour time is about to happen. ah, we're basically singing all the world far from brazil. so every will go below. i and we're wanting to plan a plan with the next dark, maybe to see a ah
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player again, i'm fully back to bo. with the headlines on al jazeera south africa is rolling potty has a turned an emergency meeting on the future of presidency of our map. also. he came under fire after he failed to report the theft of millions of dollars from his farming 2020 mamma jam. june has more from janet's bank. at one point it was expected that mister on the pose of might actually come here to defend himself. and others said that he should be here because he is the party leader, but he did not show up. it was barely 45 minutes into the meeting at this convention center here in johannesburg when it just suddenly broke up. and you had a mr. much a t lay coming out and briefing the press that it had been adjourned. this leaves a lot of questions right now. this is a time that is very politically fraught for mister rom, oppose it with his political future is looking quite grandmother or growing calls from his adversaries and from even advisors and former political allies for him to resign. the kremlin says vladimir putin is open to talks about the so called special military operation in ukraine. but it's morning washington stance on
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territory under its control would make negotiations difficult. germany. chancellor also call for a diplomatic solution in a phone call with put in a u. s. bank group that helped defeat iceland, syria says it has stopped all joint operations with american troops. the syrian democratic forces says it's a result of turkish bombardment of territory. it controls this week, the pentagon said joint patrols with the group have not stopped, but have been scammed back a routine session and synagogue parliament has descended into violence. a fighting started after a male politician strapped a female colleague on thursday. she retaliated by throwing a champ, the budget presentation was suspended as members traded punches, and in some sense. and those are the headlines on al jazeera. i'll be back with more news after inside story. stay with us. ah.
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you one more is a violence reaching oily points between israelis and palestinians. more than 200 palestinians. and these $25.00 israelis have been filled since the start of the year. what's behind it all and where will this lead to next? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm debbie and abigail 2022 was a ready, the deadliest year for palestinians and the occupied territory in 16 years. the health ministry says is really forces have killed more than $200.00 palestinians
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since january. the latest victims were killed during your rate on a refugee camp in jeanine in the occupied west bank on thursday. the 2 men were members of the brigade stuff, the military wing of slamming. she had movement. israel says its troops came under attack 1st, and recent killings have triggered general strikes in my law and palestinian reprisal attacks have killed at least 25 is really since january. although some of the violence occurred in gaza most has been in the occupied westbank, particularly in the past 2 weeks. so on tuesday is really forces killed 5 palestinians, and separate incidents last week to israelis were killed and more than a dozen injured and coordinated bomb attacks. on the outskirts of jerusalem, so far, no one has claimed responsibility. the explosions took place. hours after is really forces shot dead, a 16 year old boy is really gunfire killed another 2 palestinians on the same day.
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while the un special coordinator says the conflict has reached a boiling point, mister president, after tickets of persistent violence, lead temperament expansion, dorman, negotiation and deepening occupation. the conflict is again reaching a boiling point, high level of violence in the occupied westbank and israel in recent months, including attacks against these reyland, palestinian civilians, increased use of arms and set related violence, have caused grave human suffering. ah, let's bring in our guest. joining us from tel aviv is a kiva elder, was a contributor to the is really daily her. it's from her, i'm a lot all day. a political analyst and founding member of palestine democratic national assembly and from london bill law is the editor of arab digest. and director of the gulf mattress consultancy welcome to all,
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thanks so much for your time with us on inside story. akiva elder intel of eve is really military raids. have long been a regular occurrence in the occupied west bank that lead to injuries of palestinians and killings. of unknown palestinians, but what do you say that there is now an uptick of these raids and, and if so, why, why, what we are witnessing now is a promo of what will happen once i still hope is if there's any, a foam, the most zealand government that we have experienced, i've been since the last 74 years since i stopped this one of the se, if the outgoing governments headed by foreign minister feed was at least. busy literally committed to the to say
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solutions and both to democracy and jewish readiness. and now this is a government that sees the democracy, s a tool to establish a full fledged jury state. this is the government that is formed by the prime minister who will still have to spend some time in quote, and ask and be very serious questions by the judges and the public opinion and members of the honda race policy. that i believe in better jury supremacy. so i'm afraid that we haven't seen the climax. i really hope that the international community will
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have something to say according to our newspapers. today, the american administration made it clear that an exceptional, an escalation will deteriorate the us israeli strategic relations. ok. and what are the, let's bring you in. so a keeper has added the political dimension to all of this do, do people and i'm on the fear that things are going to get indeed much worse with the new government and israel, the most right wing and it's history. in fact, it's not a matter of fear, it's a matter of certainty. we know that when this government takes office, it will be more hostile, more racist, more brutal towards the palestinians because that's the agenda it was in. it was elected to implement. and that's the ideology that it as spouses, so an expectation of an escalation in what is already a daily,
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brutal reality of occupation and colonization is, is, you know, everybody, every palestinian is on that page. but i think the elephant in the room here is what akiva alluded to, which is the so called international community, which is allowed this situation to continue. it has allowed us to reach where we're at now because it has allowed israel to get away with all of these actions, with all of these acts of aggression with entrenching the colonial occupation while trying to manage the occupation and the palestinians. and in war that the only thing they do is to be subservient to the occupation criminalizing any form of resistance criminalizing any form of descent. for that matter, we have countries that have gone as far as considering the palestinian flag and kaffir symbols of incitement. that's how far this international community has gone
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to try and mute the palestinian voices and their narrative right below. if you listen to the is really narrative. however, they say there has been an unprecedented escalation and talks on is really troops and settlers. i mean, an over in, in western limb. in fact, just a few weeks ago, there was a bus bombing as i'm sure you're aware of which that type of bombing had taken place for for a very long time. well yeah there is, there is an uptick of violence, but as it's already been noted, the violence is very much coming from the israeli side. and i think that, and one of the concerns, excuse me, one of the concerns that i have is the extent to which these young settler thugs are harassing a beating abusing palestinians. i mean, situation
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a couple of days ago where an arab reporter was surrounded by these young thugs who were chanting death to the arabs, death their abs, and trying to and effectively blocking her efforts to words to her presentation. so it is no surprise as, as notice said that the and, and the keyboard this is happening. what i think is, is very concerning is that you have this strong strong movement of young settlers which the basically the government, the government in waiting netanyahu, his weapon ising, and threatening intimidating, and really abusing the palestinian population in ways that we haven't seen of for some time so of course there is a violence on the other side. this is to be expected when you apply repression as severely as the israelis are doing by the i d f. then you are going to get,
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unfortunately, very sadly, some violence coming from the palestinian side. and bill, do you agree with what nude had to say moments ago, which was that it is almost certain that this is going to get worse under the new upcoming governments in israel? yes, i do. i do very much. and, and she touched on something that's very important, which is that, you know, western democracies are simply standing by and letting this happen without her even a, a modicum of concern. so yes i, i feel that it will inevitably become worse and the palestinians will suffer even more abuse in that which they are already experiencing. i, a, we will get on the issue of the international community at a moment, but a 1st newer order. let me ask you what the palestinian authority spokesperson. i had to say the spokesperson of the president. that is, he said that the daily killings of palestinians is quote, a declaration of war. yet at the same time, you have the palestinian authority,
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which continues its security coordination with israel. how, how, how is this explained? well, i can't, you know, i'm, i'm sorry, but to answer your question, i'm going to have to go back to the international community because these are the rules imposed by the world on the palestinian political system. this is not to excuse the shortcomings of the palestinian authority which are many but as far as security, coordination or so called security coordination. this is a requirement imposed by international actors by so called less than the block received to allow for the continued operation of the palestinian authority. these are the rules of the game set over, you know, since the signing of, of the interim agreements with israel in, in 1993. the world expects the palestinians to ensure that israeli, their occupier are protected. it is a bizarre,
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illogical a historical arrangement that has been imposed on the palestinian people that creates a lot of internal tension in, in the palestinian society. but it is again imposed by the outside world. when the situation is in reverse one, we're talking about insuring palestinian civilian security. there is no comfortable international position. the israeli occupation authorities and security apparatus is do not make any kind of effort to ensure the protection of civilians. for example, from israeli settler attacks, which is their obligation under international law. but you don't see any international act or any country pushing israel, pressuring israel to do its minimum obligation in that sense. so we go back to that equation that has been imposed on the palestinians whereby they're expected to act
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nice to be an occupied people. unlike any other 2 not exist to not oppose occupation and to even facilitate or cooperate with their occupier. inexperience for what for increased supplement activity for the highest number of home demolitions in the past. 15 years in the west bank, the highest number of palestinians and palestinian children killed in the past 15 years this year alone. that's why this equation is not just broken, but it's untenable. and what we're seeing on the ground is a very honest expression of where palestinian stand. they are simply fed up that up with this sour deal that is shut down their throat. right. and keep 11 statements such as this one come out of the us, the u. s. assistant secretary for near eastern affairs. barbara lee said this back
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in september that the biden administration is working to ensure the continuation of security cooperation between israel and the palestinian authority. and that wants to ensure to the greatest degree that cooperation is robust and continuing. what's your reaction to, to, to such statement? are they helpful at all? well, i don't think that they are going to last very long, soon. so if things would go along the way to do the same direction that they've been going on, and i must say in the last year, even under the so called left, a center of government are experiencing more fatalities. and then during the time else, tenure, so i don't see the lights at the end of the tunnel and i can not even see a demo because the american facilities, this has disappeared. the international community, your opinions are busy now,
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was hungary with your grain, and a very eager to step in this market gate. but the good news is maybe it has to get worse before it gets better. this government is going to remove its own democratic mass by challenging the independence of this when quote, which has great international reputation. and that is likely to hide behind the argument. that is why is respecting the international law and these really low and the international community will, is going to see a very different is that even down going prime minister law div, cold troll publicly 1000000000 against. what if any ouster
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colleagues are now asking for, is actually a ha ha, a town would state, they are challenging the israeli majority that are not all to dogs. also challenging the majority of the american jewish community, which is basically reform a conservative, not all the docs and so is, is going to lose its power. not only in the administration, but also the congress in the jewish community and the american public opinion. even disraeli left, which last months ago in the elections, is waking up. this is a wake up call. this is what too much, what it's doing now, ways inviting racists into his government and making israelis being ashamed of their country, being ashamed of their passports. and now i see where the reporters are complaining
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that they are not welcomed by arabs in their doha indeed, well matches because what can you say the people are not very happy? what was the right of your bill? just comments on what you have to say. i mean, do you think that israel in the long run, might lose out politically in terms of international support as well as domestic supports? well, it's an interesting question. i think that in the court of public opinion, israel is starting to lose that for that particular battle. because of social media, we see it is very disturbing images that are appearing on a daily basis. and i'm thinking of the, the school that was demolished, the idea is quoting out to young primary age children and then their, their,
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their school being demolished. now these images are shocking, i think, and disturbing. so in that regard, yes, israel is losing as some of michel off that it has had. i think the question of israel presenting itself as the only democracy in the region is increasingly tawdry and, and tired. however, the, the political situation remains, the reality remains, that western governments continue to stand toe to toe with the israeli government. continue not to call out the disturbing treatment and the increasingly violent behavior of all the idea how they stand by and watch for example, hebron where where people were b error absorbing, attacked by settlers. the idea stood by and watched where an idea of soldier assaulted a is really piece protester where just today the at the idea of declared hebron,
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a military excluded military zone, preventing for peace protesters from coming to abroad to show support for the palestinians. i think that we have a real problem here. i think the problem is within israel. i think the problem is is, is with western governments. i think it's going to be a long time before the israel wakes up. but also, i think before the western covenants wake up and that's very sad because once again is the palestinian people who pay the price for our silence and, and our neg right. so they're paying the price nude. and as we're saying palestinians are divided. there is no leadership, largely abandoned by the international community. so what, what you're seeing and hearing on the ground and that i'm alone and other occupied territories or palestinians taking matters into their own hands and going forward. are we seeing a resurgence of be the resistance to the occupation?
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well that in the palestinian people have been resisting occupation right over 7 decades that has not stopped. and the fact that we saw at a let me just phrase that i'm talking about more resistance in the sense that will we, will we be seeing organized resistance like the 1st intifada, for example? no, i don't think that we will see something similar to the 1st intifada. the 1st and the father had a unified political leadership, but it came in a very different political context. i think what you see now was far more dangerous because of all the things that we talked about, the international component, the palestinian division, the, the audacity and the ferocity of, of israeli settler organizations and an extreme racist groups that literally go out the streets and hunt down palestinians and an occupied east, jerusalem and even inside israel proper. so we were, you know, it's
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a different ball game. it's the same relationship between occupied and occupier if you will. but i do think that will palestinians can count on and should be working on right now. in addition to restoring and repairing their own political entity, a by uniting is working on europe through solidarity groups in european capitals. these governments in europe must be held accountable by their own constituents. they must be held accountable for their double standards, further hypocrisy really. in terms of their positions towards israel, they cannot apply different standards. and if they choose to continue to talk about championing international law human rights, then they must hold israel accountable for its actions. they must treat the incoming government the way they would treat any other racist homophobic government . and that they have special and strategic relations with this government should be
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boycotted by europe and others if they really want to continue having any kind of integrity or credibility regarding where they stand on international law and human rights and and palestinians will continue to do what they've done for 73 exist occupation in different ways and different manners. and now they have the added burden of trying to recover their polity from a broken you know, old, a group of old men who seemed to be so entrenched in their position and divided that they've left us with their wood, our backs, bear really to this occupation a keep a l t r. if we just kind of take a broader picture here and put it into context, how, how far are palestinians and israelis today from a political solution on, at to the,
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the platform of the new government is very clear about they believe in annexation of area. see, should cover 60 percent of the west bank. they were resist. and the negotiations, not let alone was, was hamas. and this is something that i would like to see on the policy side if i was a policy. and i would like to see some kind of coexistence from the alliance between all post union forces. but aston isley, who am i to give to posting advice? but yes, i can see the international community now asking clear questions to are these right. is like, are they asked for the south african, what do you want? do you want and apartheid regime?
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and do you want to at criminal in the leading position? or, as you say is well, for many years the claim to it's the only democracy in the middle east. is it so i'm afraid that the current prime minister, that congress, members of the cabinet we have or how guy answering this kind of questions been law. there were reports that there were some members of the biden administration who are concerned about new members of this, right. when government in israel, do you think at all that i will get to a point where the americans will perhaps disengage from certain members of the israeli government over there. right wing views and policies and if so, what impact will that have?
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yeah, i again i, i wish i could say yes but, but i don't think that will happen. but these a, these particular small rich and then a coming in as a said racists they, their hatred for arabs is appalling and they should be denounced in washington. they should be denounced here in london. they're not being the silence is very, very worrying. there may be, certainly, there will be people within the democratic party that will speak up, but will joe biden to pay that my cheat? i, i fear or not. ok, well the secretary of state antony blink and pay them much. you know, i don't think so. we'll have to leave it there on that. no, thank you so much for joining us to keep the elder and your order and bill law. thanks so much. thanks for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com. you can have further discussion by going to our facebook page dots, facebook dot com, forward slash ha. inside story, you can join the conversation on twitter or handle is
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