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words they're going to eat in everyday life. oh, in particular situations, that's how language you some more people, but a, it was pretty cold and miserable and be i felt the journalistic impulse to try goblin mood for myself. so rather than think of a pithy thought provoking final line, i decided to eat some jurors. they were nice. i re faucet al jazeera oxford. good for you, harry. well, you can keep up with all the very latest a world come action hand cat on our website. our sarah dot com ah, without 0. these are top stories. russia is accusing ukraine of using drones to attack 2 of its abbe says, hundreds of kilometers away from their shad border. moscow says there was hog saying long range warplanes and 3 service men were killed. mounted fall is in
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moscow. one of them is only a 185 kilometers south east of moscow. it's called the d, the jackie level, or jackie level airbase. and as were 3 people were killed when a fuel tanker are caught, fire and exploded, or this statement mentioned, but those were 3 service men. the other base is about 730 kilometers southeast of moscow. it's called the ingles air base. and thus, where the bombers are stationed, the long range bombers, new cranes as a wave of russian missile strikes, of course, power cuts across the country. they talk to the energy facilities in the capsule and several other regions. at least 2 people were killed in the zappa, each region. first, as, as a mongolia, have dispersed after storming the government, palace officials that ordered police to use force to break up. the crowd earlier on monday demonstrates as a calling for an end to corruption sedans,
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military rulers. and the coalition of political parties have signed a deal to end a political stand off, which has lasted for months. agreement is expected to pay the way for the establishment of civilian rule and elections. saddam has been without a functioning government since october last year, when the military seized power thousands more people in indonesia were being ordered to evacuate their villages. after months, summary volcano erupted on sunday. the government is now imposed an 8 kilometer excretion. same with fear of further lava flows around 2 and a half 1000 people have already left and brazil have cruised into the quarter finals of the world cup. maybe south korea for one and around the 60. there will now face croatia, maybe japan earlier in the evening in the 1st penalty, shootout of the tournaments. these are headlines stay with us. it's i story is next
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news. news. news, news. news. it's a winter of discontent for britain. hundreds of thousands of public sector employees are going on strike this month. they say they've had enough of low wages and raising living costs. how should the government respond? this is inside story. ah, ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm daddy, navigator, britain is facing at least a month of unprecedented strike action this winter. hundreds of 1000 the public
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sector workers are walking off the job. the situation has become so serious that the government may ask the military to help keep services running. security guards, teachers on staff from the postal and rail services across the u. k. or funding days of industrial action. so are up to a 100000 nurses in coordination with ambulance and other health care employees. they say decades of low pay and poor working conditions have left them unable to deal with the rising cost of living. the government describe the strikes as unnecessary and has urged unions to call them off. but union leaders say they don't have a choice. we have members who are sleeping in cars because they can't hold the pixel down to work. we have members who haven't been on food. thanks. and when i say members, only nurses looking at hospitals having to rely on the realities that they brought. why we all see the direct result of
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a cost of living crosses where work is caught my kids, me. while companies are still making huge profits and this is in the 6th richest country in the world, workers to take stock action lightly. they do not have any choice and increasingly work as they're thinking. why should i have to pay the price? but economic crisis is not are they making? so how did we get here? well researched by the university of york suggests about $45000000.00 brits will struggle to pay their energy bills. this winter, u. k. inflation reached a 41 year high of 11 point one percent in october, as the price of food on fuel sword and richey sooner. the 3rd prime minister this year is grappling with an economic crisis and the recession predicts its last well into 2023 economists blame the war and ukraine and the knock on effect of the pandemic on the aftermath of bricks it
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ah, looks numbering and our guest joining us from london, we heard from him a little earlier on, is unite the union national lead officer when a sob from long field. and can we have clara pearson who's a conservative party counselor and also from london. now you must land chief market analyst at arbitrary. welcome to you all. thanks so much for your time. clara. so it's being described as your very well aware as the winter of discontent, reflecting perhaps in 1970. some people say we're pretty much everybody seemed to go on strike. would you say that's a fair description of what the country is facing? i don't seem to be a fair description of what we're currently facing. i just can't help thinking that these strikes all completely unnecessary and in your, your, my other guest here on the show has stated that he members cannot afford the cost of living crisis. well, it is going to affect every but the, the cost of living crisis isn't just hitting those industries. it is also hitting
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everybody in the entire country and what the strikes will have. it put more pressure on those families. you have to get to work by other means. if i don't use a trade, then they are going to have to drive the cost of petula. so it's always in the moment is going to put even more pressure on those individuals. i'm with enough to strike a all that he's going to do is increase the logan to be in a chest. i think the public now their sympathy is elsewhere. they just for their lives to be disruptive, even though they understand the meanings behind the strikes. ok, let's bring in a sub who we heard from earlier to comments on what you have to say. and i go ahead . the reality is that the strikes are absolutely necessary because people do not have a choice. and if you look at the why breadth of people involved in the strikes and that really sense the message is trade unions, we are always willing to negotiate instruction is always
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a last result. but our members now do not have any choice. we have a situation where our members are going for a cost of living crisis. one of the same time, employees have been making record profits, where you have a situation where people are relying on food banks. when nurses have a lot of things where people in cars, where people may be losing their own homes, where people who work for the state have to rely on stay benefits. where there are families, the dread to school holidays because closed and that is the only time we'll let children can get. i hope mill, lat tells you a loss about the situation that we are in. the fact that people have voted for stroke actually. and we have met the threshold set by the law that might kick in some cases quite difficult to actually have a legal by the fact that we are getting those pilots for tells you everything.
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people don't want to test, right? actually without being forced to type structure because of the situation that we are in the i don't think to my very, very clear. this isn't just about a protest. we now destroy passion, wins over the last year since the election about general secretary sharon graham. we've been involved in over 450 disputes separate disputes winning the vast majority of those. i'm putting around 200000000 pounds in actual earnings into our members pockets. so the conclusion is that the strikes are necessary. our members don't have a choice. members, not strong, casual work, and that's why we're going to what we go through at the, at the moment. it's a cost of living crosses together with profiteering crisis. ok, welcome back to that. so i'll come back to you and we can drill down on some of these points. uh,
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let me just bring it now. you mum from london to just comment on the the, what the conservative party chairman did. so why he had to say, and he said that it is the wrong time to strike over a low pay because it would help vladimir putin divide the west. what do you make of these comments in the midst of everything. ready politics is the main reason the politicians and the times is the main reason why we are here in a fast wise. we have cell phones, i think injuries in the united kingdom. and the current consequences are very mercer results of time because it be the cost of living quarters in the united kingdom. come back to france, compare that to germany. the rest of the you will see, even in times of subsidies for electric, you will see the clear difference or in terms of a solutions in terms of electric bill. and you compare that with germany, armies trans already to you. you can see the results over back. so, you know, taking the political angle on the back of this one was from an investor's
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perspective from economic perspective. we need more set. trinity, we do not need a political environment where you are flaring. ready geo political, tennessee, which currently and sadly the government is pretty much do. ready by picking up another war with the 2nd biggest economy of cold china, we want to have from investors perspective investors like to see more. so tenants rather trinity and died can really sort of mitigate all the concerns in relation to cost of living crisis in terms of growth, in terms of inflation on what the panel members are mentioned. that yesterday, the situation is actually going to get what it's going to get a lot more. dia going into 2023. because remember, if anyone was paying in, in, in terms of their mortgage, 1.7 to 1.5 percent. now the current rate on the market is between 6 percent to 70
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percent for your mortgage payments are going to be more than doubled. and in london we have 100 and thousands of movies which. ready really going to be kid, came in the 1st q one for next year. so i mean, i am very much sympathetic through the current situation or what is happening. but we just hope that the government can ship up some write policies in order to mitigate the current circumstances that we are. okay, claire, what does the government have to do at this point? well, i mean, the government has negotiated most recently as to day and not offer has been reject say by one of the union i regarding train stripes. so i think that we are left in a really difficult position. if the offer is not accept said the strikes the going ahead, there is nothing else the government can do. and what worries me is the effect this is going to have on the economy on people's employment states. if they can get to
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work, they, canada, and money, they cannot feed their family to knock on effect is enormous. and especially at this time of year, those industries that were hit really hard regarding the coven pandemic in the lock sounds that we suffered in the united kingdom. ok to be hit, doubly hard coming up to the festive season, which is normally that busiest time. so i would hope that the unions will get back around the table with the government. i think that they need to work out where their differences lie and the unions cannot keep demanding such an enormous increase in the pay pay in their conditions. debate where that without looking at what the financial position of the united kingdom actually is, they may well have to come down on their offer. and the government may, in, in fact have to increase says that at the moment i think they've gone as far as they can. and i tell us the unions position on this and whether there could be a possibility that they actually do come down on their offer. as the government
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done enough for the unions, in your opinion, the dublin is done nowhere near enough, which is just one example. a taking place for my chest. the government is refusing to negotiate. it doesn't negotiate because there's something called the pay review body where people make a submission. and then just the government and the body decide what i want to make of back pay review body man. rather than that sham of a process. what we need is negotiations and that's not happening in england. this policy and a chest is concerned now in scotland, where all negotiations start taking place for the scottish job. and it does seem as if there is some progress being might look kind of my, the point earlier on about the impacts on businesses of strikes. but here's the reality. unless you pay people a decent wage,
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they cannot go out and spend the money or christmas anyway. that's the reality. they cannot go out and spend the money as part of the hospitality industry and go out and enjoy themselves because they are not being paid a decent wage. and as far as you can, economies concern united research is found that it's on our website. we produce research using biggest from the r s on what figures are available to us from a company accounts that show the large companies, the major companies, if you kind of my 75 percent increase in their profit margins between 20192021. that's bigger profit margin so that we're making prior to the pandemic city argument really is that there is money there in the economy. and our view is that the wrong people have got it. i got too much of it and it's about time we started discussing how we distribute. ok. let's bring a name is their money really there and i,
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and because some people worry that if workers do get pay rises, then their employers will in turn have to put up prices for customers that pushes up inflation. and then you have sort of never ending. spiral is not a correct assessment, is there money, but is it just in the wrong hands? if you look in the quarterly earnings. ready quarterly earnings. what we see is we see an increment, our supply chain in terms of input costs, whether that is on the labor side of whether that is on the actual ingredient or the cost structure. we've seen that we've seen the large number of companies suffering from their margins. so what they increase at prices to give you just a very simple example. ready in the u. k, especially in london. i've used this semi sometimes, you know, like a basket of experts. 30 x. he is to be 3 pound now, so it's 7 or 8 pound meet is to be 7 times now is 15 pound.
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people who are struggling, struggling with paying the bills, and then we got to have a really cool winter on, on top of that, how they're really great for this. not to mention that just so going back to the original question. so companies are already increased the product cost and that is actually feeding into inflation. and what were you referred to either, you know, money or of course it is your cost for a few. and. ready second, the input cost for this ones because they increase the march, it's by who is actually paying as the at normal pass and the consumer walking on the street. they've actually paying for that. and then they do not have enough money. come. ready in disposable income, ashley completely eradicated because of the government's policies or what they've done. claire pierce all way on this. i mean, do you think that there is enough money to combat the situation, but it's just concentrated in the wrong places?
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well, i think if you look at it, try no pricing companies, but they do make the profits, but that's not for the government to tell them what to do with it. that is all private companies. so i take a section for that, but i would also like to point out with the n h s. pay review boards, they all that for this kind of purpose to have a look and see what is the 5 pay across both. if you start to mom day something which is 5 percent of inflation that is completely unworkable, it is completely unreachable. so you're never going to have that kind of conversation because immediately neither i just go away and you just walk away. so i think the negotiation that she just needs to be faster in that respect, but it will say use the paper be bored for what it is baffle. but claire, let me put that you because francis o'grady, who they are going general secretary of the trade union, congress said that it's not just about the spike and inflation. it's about the 12 years of therapy and cutbacks, the public services. so how much do you think this is about what's going on now
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versus a general happiness that has been going on for a long time over the state of public services in the u. k. i think you can blame just 12 years of a nice to see on public services. it's all, i think successive governments haven't made the investment needs is in today's infrastructure projects and in see the staff within the public sites position. so i think that this is governments as a whole, i think you need to take the policy politics out of it and look at why the state is fails to make these improvements over the last 20. that's even 40 years. so i don't think you can put the blame, so already have one person. i think government as a whole is to blame for this. and it's now going to be the individual on the street . he was going to suffer enormously because they columns food i use to get out and spend money in the hospitality industry if they cannot get to work at a wage in the 1st place on a some say that the unions are in fact trying to harm the government and the union
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leaders will see a moment like this as an opportunity to show what these unions can actually do for their members, or what is your response to that and how much of this could this be about their personal position versus the actual issues that their members care about our unit is actually 100 percent focused on the workplace. and we've made that very, very clear. we do not care well the political colors of the policy that we are dealing with. and just to give you some examples in local government, we've got a number of disputes against 5 conservative and labor local authority. so we do not care what the political colors are of the government of the day or the local authority that we are dealing with. we are 100 percent laser focused on winning found members in the workplace. but that being said, it's convenient for class decided this is about 20 per 2 years of
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of a conservative government take what's going on in the end. it got 133000 vacancies . we've got 5, they're still being paid off. got cuts. we've got privatization accelerated by this government. and what's now going on is a cumulative effect of all of those issues impacting on the edge that's. that's why we're in a position where we are fighting for more play for i'm and i just workers so that we can recruit and retain more workers into the service. that's how you going to do it. you can't ignore those very specific problems. when you go on the 33000 bike and you know, and i checked, of course that public service is going to suffer, and yet i check it safety critical patients end up suffering. as a result, there was an immediate fix it, which is to pi health workers,
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a decent wage. and yes, we don't want to sticking plaster resolution. there was a medium to long term fixed as well. about what we do. we get a chance what we do with the economy and how we prioritize what we want to pay for . i think we do need to be looking at how we tax wealth, for instance. i don't think working people should be taxed more to pay for services . let's look up well, because wealthy being made to wealthier welfare and i tell you, well, it's not trickling down. ok, let me just bring in clear and allow you the opportunity to respond. and then i'll come over to you here. if you have to take a bit of an exception to say private finance initiatives, the p f i deals that we just mentioned was only down to the conservative government, which of course they will not and it is decades off. i'm looking at what the n h s is for saying, i don't think you can totally blame it on the conservative government. i think
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success if governments having goals to grips with the n h as in the problems within it. recruitment and retention is one thing, but it will say the level of all bureaucracy, the levels of management involve the mismanagement of funds within hospitals. the money that gets wasted, we need to look at the institution and non political party wants to do that. we have to be on it. anybody who suggests that we need to look at how we find the n h as going forward will automatically be put to one side and told that privatizing it . that is the case, but it doesn't work in its present situation. it doesn't work for the people of this country now in 2022 and it's certainly not what in 10 years time, say we need to have a very uncomfortable conversation about that. and the unions do need to be involved . but i do think this is political, is always looking at what the consensus government has or hasn't done in the unions opinion without taking into account what has come before,
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which is obvious to distress that we're dealing with now. ok, now i am. are you getting a sense of where public opinion lies today right now as we speak? because according to one poll that i read back in october, people were sympathizing with those who are going on strike. but could there be a tipping point and public opinion going forward if things do get so bad with all these strikes, is there risk that and that opinion will go in the opposite direction, i think with public. ready and what public really wants is con, aren't they don't want any more distraction now, going into christmas period going into the a really strong winter period. i think these disruptions are going to create even more chaos in for the economy and for the general public as well. even currently really has to call an h s y. any emergencies who really even though. ready ready an urgent service, but you've got to be dying for something for an ambulance to really arrive at your
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start. that is the current situation over here. ready i myself have a daughter like 3 years old, it was a stream issue, the ill but again, they're just called at a scale which wasn't that critical. ready and they just started to i said to us very, very. ready but we do not have people right now to we are only power hiding people who are really, really just about to, to die or are suffering from a death threat. even the she, she was like was. ready repeating, so that's, i'm just trying to give you the example or something that happened with my own personal life, not too long ago. now, there is another side of their story as well as, and that is eradicating disposable income. we ask public is largely concerned about that, but at the same time, you go to any restaurant in london over the weekend, you will see cues and keys people. so if it just makes you think our cost of
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living crisis as high as a camry, are we really being racial in, in terms of spending? because when you look at those restaurants that full, that there are straight lines outside. and just final words from all 3 of you, just tell me if you're optimistic that the situation will get resolved in the short term. now, i'll stick with you. i think she's the like, if you look at the currency from the perspective we're starting, as you know is val office knows from 1.033 heart center restored confidence in government's ability to tackle is that public country and track claire? well, the country got back on track. yes, absolutely. well, it is going to be incredibly tough, but i think it takes to 12 months time. we will be part of this, and i share what claire just have to say or, or what do you think? we have no faith in politicians let down working people. tom tom again, we have a 5 now members and we're confident the members are willing ready,
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and prepared to take the action necessary to win and pay increases to say, services lock us. okay, we'll leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. we're like a sub claire piersal and i am a slam. we thank you for your time. thanks for watching the program. you can see it again, any time by visiting our website out there a dot com. and for further discussion, you can go to our facebook page, it's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, and site story during the conversation on twitter or handle as a day and side story from myself and the whole team here in delphi. thanks for watching. bye bye. for now. the news, ah.
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