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ah hi, i'm from you. okay, brazil, indonesia and the democratic republic of congo are some of the most critical reading forth in the whole world. so critical that often referred to as the loans of the world. in november, the 3 countries find an alliance, which is to aim to safeguard the rain forest in indonesia, brazil, and the democratic republic of congo. though on this episode of the stream we are asking if this trip or lions can really save our reinforce, do you have an opinion? i know you have a comment section right here and you to be part of today's discussion.

ah, hello barts and key key and let's take it to have your expertise with us on today's discussion. but please say hello to our audience around the world. tell them who you are and what you do. hello, good morning. thanks for having me on the show. i'm barker say, i am a tropical ecologist and i specialize in pizza for us in the central con obeisance, and particularly in the democratic republic of congo berg, i've been working for a number of years and i'm also an environmental journalist and a section of these issues. closely, he came, welcome to the stream phase, introduce yourself to our audience. thank you. hello. good morning. i'm good fick. i live for indonesia, for a game, been globally for getting into nisha. i base in

i lay low. welcome to the stream. say i, what do you tell them who you are and what you do? hello everyone. good morning. good afternoon, evening. wherever you are. ah, my name is layla, salazar lopez. i am the executive director of amazon watch and we work to protect and defend the amazon and aren't climate in solitary with indigenous peoples. and i'm calling in from san francisco, california fast reaction gas. when you heard about the triple lines between indonesia, d, all see and brazil. what did you think? layla thoughts in a sentence? of course, are at these global gatherings. there's lots of announcements and pledges and commitments made, and we need a lot more commitments. immediate for protecting our forests and our climate. so yes, of course, welcomed this announcement. now it's about the implementation. if this is really

truly a reality, lenovo, do we really need more commitments? how many commitments do we need for test? we get commitments, but we don't get action and action that's delivered. i remember being in glasgow. jane caught $26.00 and it was such an amazing cop for rain for us. it wasn't the rain for his call and a lot of those promises have been walked back pretty quickly. let me just bring in here but, but i know, you know, the d all see really well. the d r c was quite prominent in those promises made about the rain forest, and then a few months later they were prospecting for fossil fuels. in no same voice, they were going to protect. i am deeply cynical bar, should i be? well, i think that's part of the right. yeah. there, there is the reason to be cynical about those clutches, especially if you look at what is happening in the congo base where the government is facilitating all your exploration and guys,

exploration on the right for us. but then at the same time these, these, this alliance is important, and mine's really help to their share left us among these 3 different countries that have been learned in the past that they can, that they can, can learn from each other and, and also, it might make it easier to, to keep them accountable. when i go ahead and i saw on your mind, go ahead. me. yeah. yeah. articulate useful. i can see you thinking well, you know, going back to glasgow. there was over $1700000000.00 pledged by government by private institutions, by foundations, to elevate the importance and commit to protecting forests and indigenous peoples. only 7 percent of that pledge have been actually allocated to indigenous peoples organizations. according to the ford foundation. we just saw the fund at hot $27.00

about loss and damage, which is for me that, that is critical for many of us work with communities on the frontlines are facing the fires in the flood and the station by the climate crisis. we know that these funds are critical. they are reparations for the people that have been mostly heart, but they need to be they need to be implemented quickly. we don't have another 10 years taking. i see you nodding. go ahead to an i conversation. yeah, i think i think that because the global, not the role is in the driving station and because the beneficiary of buy it for been a posse, some pieces our remaining portraits provide wells, the gunther, the most profile, financing for the broad baker,

amber exploration of therapy. cold water. importantly, this must be thorough, credible funding mechanism that respected human, dried out of brown spot on and do not think that to be be louder. we need to make sure our water, the financing off the water is per picture. but my, we are welcome the quote, what issue of this? because we are very similar to the length of low boat. i'd be business day being day 40 station in our 3 countries. what does that cooperation kate kicking what? what does that mean? is it you're going to share fine teeth? you're going to shine notes. you're going to pledge that you're not going to be forced any more of your tropical rain force. what does that alliance actually mean?

ok, said the corporation men that i think, but for a dimension before we can setting the expert bias we can setting above our experience also ah, most of what most most importantly, as i mentioned before is we need to put the indigenous people because indigenous people are critical to florida. oh, glad surprise. you know, so you said that at the recent you went climate conference known as cult 27, which happened in egypt. indigenous voices rose up and said, you need to include us when we're talking about the rain for if you're talking about our house, our homes were important. let me share with our audience some of those voices indigenous people and has been always consider us being capable to manage the funding. why to have been careful to protect or climate the environment. i think

the best person to get the money. i hope we manage in over the winter on a day to day basis. it is the indigenous community. so experienced the impact of climate change. in my case, it's very bad. it is not only a climate change, it is a change in structure which is affecting indigenous towns. in this case, we're talking about constant rain last year during the panoramic. it floods the amazon basin, all the rivers in the amazon basin overflowed. on the other hand, you have trouts. so these are things that we are experiencing every day because some of the be in the area. and i, you thing that this increased awareness of indigenous communities have a really good sense of what is best for their own line. what is back to their own communities? is there that except that was it beginning to change? well, glad to see my, my colleague there and not enough from ecuador and amazon. indigenous peoples have

been protecting the forests, whether from the amazon, congo, indonesia, they are the best protectors of the force of the bio diversity. in fact, 80 percent of our planet, bio diversity are on a digital people plants. and so that's why whether you're a cock $27.00 talking about you know, protecting forests and indigenous people, being the guardians, and the stewards of the forest or your ca 15 of taking place now, which is the bio diversity convention. the, with a critical, critical commitment that we need out of these global gatherings is not only the recognition of indigenous peoples as guardians, but as protectors and defenders. and that are definitely capable. they've been doing it for thousands of years, definitely capable of protecting and managing their own force and the resources to

protect the force i am going to, i think, what, what is really important is, is, is that the clutches that have been made by government and by private companies as well, the money that have been patched that that'd be fine away. so make sure that the money actually reaches communities on the ground. all right, 5, have let me, let me put this to you. this is joe from a little bit early on. he, he joined our conversation from, he's the ring for foundation u. k. he, he challenged us to answer this question. bought, you kind of bring it out quite nicely. so his joe have anything to joe and then respond to him immediately containing half of the world's remaining tropical forests is unsurprising that the d r. c, brazil, and in the media come together in this kind of way. however, beyond the rhetoric, while these countries are actually doing the same, got the forests,

as well as the rights of tens of millions of indigenous peoples and other local communities they inhabit these areas. for example, in the i'll see the government recently auctioned that the oil and gas brooks covering millions of hector's and the central p lands the largest terrestrial carbon sink on. it also recently signaled his intention to lift the 20 a band on new loading sessions in the country. so when we talk about a new path to protect the forests, any funding needs to be attached to improve forest governance, routing out corruption. and most importantly, channeling support to those in the front lines of tropical deforestation. it's right. what, what joe is saying here the, the, the government in particular, it is sending mixed signals to the international community one and trying to show its commitment to for the 4th conservation to reduce alliance for example. and then on the other hand, auction of oil blog in the ready for us and,

and, and pieces that are critical for the, for the, for the global climate. so it, it, yeah, the question is, how serious our day about, about these commitments. and i think there's, there's that means also that there's a role to play for the national community to keep them accountable and to, to follow up on their support as well. can i ask you that? because i know you specialize in the d r. c. how serious would you say 50 r c is? it's just, it's a country that you know very well about protecting their tropical rain force. well, the are saying, like i said that the, the government is giving us next signal. so these, these oil blocks that are, that are being auctioned off or ready, just going to be destructive for 40,

rang for us and for the global climate as well. this, this range for it is taking carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. and more than releasing at the moment and thereby providing a service, so you will to, to all of us the humanity and, and i think climate change. so when we lose that surface as well, it makes even harder for us to, to, to, to attain to paris, paris. the finally got some questions from that audience who were very pointed in what they would like to know. what kind of emergency are we in regarding our rain for us? so on youtube, joe says that saving the royal reinforce sounds good. but how about saving it's people, the children of the rain for us later voice, very briefly this. i mean, i literally was thinking we got to back up here and talk about what the state of,

of the amazon in the state of the forest are. and the amazon rain forest, which is what i focus on and what our organization focus is on. the amazon is in a state of emergency. the amazon is at a tipping point and why it's going back to what, what art was talking about. it's about the deforestation. it's about the degree degradation, it's about the lawlessness, the illegal activity, though illegal logging the legal mining, and also the legal, the permissions incentivized by the government in brazil and particular incentivizing on land grabbing, incentivizing agribusiness expansion, fossil fuel extraction, mineral extraction, whether it be legal or illegal, all of this has led to the amazon rain forest being at a tipping point. and so it's at a tipping point. and an indigenous peoples who are on the front lines

are under attack because they're defending their reinforce or defending their lands or defending their ancestral trail territories. so what they are calling on all of us. they are joining together indigenous peoples, scientists, activists, academics and geo allies. were all coming together to say. for the amazon, we must protect permanently 80 percent of the amazon by 2025. not 20. 30. not 20. 40 or 50? we need urgent commitments now. and that means we need lulu as a newly elected president of brazil on to do what is he said in his campaign, pride lady lynette would let at a hot yes. let's remind our what is what he said, what he promised. so this is the, our president elect for brazil. yes. let's have a listen. you did the school for years because you this here companions. there's no

climate security for the world without to protect it. amazon. we will spare no efforts to have 0 deforestation. and the degradation of our biomes by 2030 and i will give them up at midday. they get that. so the most political globally war, we are going to rigorously punish those responsible for any illegal activity where the mining gold digging would extraction or agricultural occupation. these crimes affect mostly indigenous people. this is why we will create the ministry of indigenous people so that they can present to the government policies that guarantee them, that survival, security piece, and sustainability accused probably useless. i prefer have you as wanting via you cheaper mixing politics and conservation. they do go and, and had a laura mentioned that both scenarios, the outgoing president of brazil has consistently had no concern for the rain for a so now what so you heard the sound know, are coming from the preston elect again on youtube. and i'm going to ask you to do

this very briefly so we can get in many, many thoughts from out what it's who are watching. one of the main challenges when we're looking at safeguarding actually call rein voice for you. what is the number one challenge? ok, so number one, timmons of course, are related to the next part and see and then a credible mechanism. i think i think mental in, in, in here is a lot of deal before. it's not really transparent. and also it's go to the fake solution. because if we're talking about these the, the mission, for example, there is of one market solution coming from the globe as busy go by, not just for, for our, for our, for you that this,

this is part, but then also the jan. so we need to make sure that no solution and the deal based on current market, the low polluting companies to use that in forest, of this radian to offset their mission, will undermine on the real solution. they does sing best house, just a mission. so there must be no deal that low polluting constant is to keep breaking s book on the planet. he keep them, we need to map. so kicking them, i use a fake solution, but bought and, and a lane, studies nodding their head very, very emphatically. what have you seen, but there is definitely a fake solution to preserving at tropical rain forests. well, of financing for, for, for conservation is really needed, but carbon markets are really problematic. because very often what you see

is that the claims are being made of, of amounts of carving being avoided, carbon emissions being avoidance, that, that hasn't been backed up by reality. so the transparency of how, how those markets are being managed and how does those quantities are calculated. it's really important. and so if there is going to be any alliance between these 3 countries, especially in terms of a common carbon market for, for a, for, as for protection then then how, how that is being managed needs to be very transparent and exactly. and we can't, they are coming out of cop 2070 think a lot of us, we're happy about the loss and damage fund. it is reparations for those most affected. and yet, you know, there's, you know, the fossil fuel industry continues to dominate on the,

on the climate and the biodiversity discussions. and what were, you know, and, and what this means is that we're, we're coming up with band aid solutions for what we really need to do. instead of saying, we need to de carbonized and really commit to reducing our, our use of fossil fuels and shifting from extraction to a just transition. we're still allowing the fossil fuel industries to do business as usual, and allow them to continue to pollute and say they're protecting forests, are investing in protecting forests when they're not. and they're just talking about offsetting solutions, which are, are not true solutions to protect it. worse, i'm just looking at my laptop, but some of the thoughts and ideas that came out of cult 27. have

a look here on my laptop. columbia will propose creating an amazon block against deforestation. and then earlier we spoke to layla, seen who was also talking about a bigger alliance, not just indonesia, brazil, and a democratic republic of congo, but many more countries. this is what she told us. so despite the fact that the global rate of voice destruction has slowed down in 2021 in 2022, it is still not enough to meet the 2030 commitments made last year by 140 countries . and because forest are so vital to combat climate change and stabilize it at $1.00 degrees we've seen again this year during caught $27.00 the launch of several international initiatives to keep last year's momentum alive by accelerating the implementation of actions to both hold deforestation. and force degradation by 2030, with a special focus on sustainable forest management and the role of indigenous peoples

and the local communities in preserving these ecosystem. so yes, it is alive and now we need to implement. okay, what do you think needs to happen for everybody to act with a sense of urgency with which you've been talking to us here on the stream, right. we have the at now 2025 is is like tomorrow basically, there's no time at all. what do we need to act that quickly? yeah, so i think, i think i thought everybody also mentioned that the we need to act now for our, our more more clear action. and, and also we need to more, ha martin in that a called mission of wow. where we need to be one coin cookie. what would you say was the catalyst? because i hear layla saying 2025. i do not think it's going to happen because we don't act fast enough, kiki, what's the catalyst going to be ah,

you can be honest. you can say we're not gonna make it right. you can be honest. well yeah, you're going to be a very depressing end of the show. yeah, i think, i think, i think you right, i mean that we are, we are also in between optimistic and also the mistake. and like for example, for example, in the nation we, we have the government said that the already prospects being more than 50 percent of the product aria. yeah. however, in the same time, also government indonesia. but i still opening the in best month to to opening the predict not sure, not predicts about the play. like what example when we're facing, we bundle me to you. it's all mentioning that everybody can say no need to be

prepared for what could it be? and government indonesia, coming with the solution for foot with this opening and therefore we just this is also fig solution. ok, i think they be seconds. layla, that is half a sentence. i am ticket left with between optimistic and peasant mistake. what is one sentence? the close i show with one sentence later, we need to keep for a standing, and we more tory, i'm on the further destruction with it, whether the fossil fuels logging mineral extraction, we need more time on the destruction. and we need to keep the force standby, and we need to investments in protection, in the destruction of the reinforce. thank you. layla and key key and bar. and the view is for your conversation on youtube. a question was, can i knew triple alliance save ring voice from ruin? and the question, and the answer to that is,

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