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military and full of precedent, alexander lucas shanker, the bodies of at least 2 and a half 1000 endangered. caspian seals have washed up on the shores of my couch, color in russia's southern region of don gaston, ministry for natural resources, say they found they have been found on russia's entire shore line of the caspian sea. local nature reserve says they are likely died about 2 weeks before being washed ashore. forensic examinations of being carried out to determine what killed them ah, is out there, these your top stories? there was a tight runoff election the us state of georgia, but the incumbent democrat. rafael warnock has been declared the winner taking the last remaining u. s. senate seat with a 5149 split, the democrats now have an outright majority in the senate. for me,
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i am from u. k. brazil indonesia and the democratic republic of congo. has some of the most critical writing force in the whole while so critical that they are often referred to as the lungs of the world. in november, the 3 countries find an alliance, which is to aim to safeguard the rain forest in indonesia, brazil, and the democratic republic of congo. so on this episode of the street, we are asking if this trip or lions can really save our rain for us to have an opinion. i know you have
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a comment section is right here and you to be part of today's discussion. ah, hello barts. and kiki and layla, so good to have your expertise with us on today's discussion bart fee say hello to our audience around the well, tell them who you are and what you do. hello. good morning. thanks for having me on the show. i'm barker say, i am a tropical ecologist and i specialize in peace on 4th in the central congo basin, and particularly in the democratic republic of congo, where i've been working for a number of years. and i'm also an environmental journalist and a start following these. these issues closing case, welcome to the stream, please introduce yourself to our audience. thank you. hello. good morning. i'm good fick. i live for indonesia, for a game, been globally for getting into nisha. i base in
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and lay low. welcome to the stream. say, what do you tell them who you are and what you do? hello everyone, good morning. good afternoon, evening. wherever you are, my name is layla and i thought of the office. i am the executive director of amazon watch and we work to protect and defend the amazon and our climate in solitary with indigenous peoples. and i'm calling in from san francisco, california fast reaction gas. when you heard about the triple lines between engine easy at the deal of the am brazil. what did you think? layla thought in a sentence. of course, ah, at these global gatherings, there's lots of announcements and pleasures and commitments made. and we need a lot more commitments, immediate for protecting our forests and our climate. so yes, of course. welcome this announcement. now it's about the implementation. if this is
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really true, be a reality let over. do we really need law commitments? how many commitments do we need for case we get commitments, but we don't get action and action that's delivered. i remember being in glasgow during caught 26 and it was such an amazing cop for rain forest. it wasn't the rain for his car and a lot of those promises have been walk back pretty quickly. let me just bring in here but, but you, i know, you know, the d r c really well the d r c was quite prominent in those promises made about the rain forest. and then a few months later they were prospecting for fossil fuels, in no same voice they were going to protect. i am deeply cynical, but should i be? well, i think that's part of the right. yeah. there's those reason to be cynical about those clutches, especially if you look at what is happening in the congo basement, where the government is facilitating all your exploration and gas exploration on
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your end for us. but then at the same time these, these, there's a lie and if it's important and my really have to share less sense among these 3 different countries that have been learned in the past that they can, that they can, can learn from each other and, and also it might make it easier to, to keep them accountable. well, like i have something on your mind. go ahead. well, you know, going back to glasgow. there was over $1700000000.00 pledged by government by private institutions, by foundations, to elevate the importance and commit to protecting for us and indigenous peoples. only 7 percent of that pledge have been actually allocated to indigenous peoples organizations to the ford foundation. we just saw the fund i caught $27.00 about
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lawson damage, which is for me that, that is critical for many of us work with communities on the front lines are facing the fires in the floods and that govern station by the climate crisis. we know that these funds are critical. they are reparations for the people that have been mostly heart, but they need to be they need to be implemented quickly. we don't have another 10 years taking. i see you nodding, go ahead to our conversation. he, i think i think that because the global, not the role is in the driving station and because the beneficiary of buy it for the been a was system that basis our remaining parts provide wells. the gunther, the most profile, financing for the broad baker, amber exploration of therapy, cold water. importantly, this must be thorough,
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credible funding mechanism that prospected human dried out of brown spot on and do not. i think that's the 3 be louder. we need to make sure the water, the financing off the water for a picture. but my, we are well come the quote, what ation of this? because we are very similar to the length of low, but i do business day being the for station in our 3 countries. what does that cooperation case? kinky? what, what does that mean? is it you're going to show scientists, you're going to show notes. you're going to pledge that you're not going to deforest any more of your tropical reinforce. what does that alliance actually mean? ok. so the corporation men that spear s i thing barked or
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a dimension before the weekend saying that her or the expert bios. we concerning a but there our experience also ah, most of what our most are. most importantly, as i mentioned before, is, are we need to put, ah, ah, ah, the indigenous people, ah, because indigenous people are critical. the border is so glad to hear you said 5. i'm so glad you said that at the recent un climate conference known as cop $27.00, which happened in egypt, indigenous voices rose up and said, you need to include us when we're talking about the rain forest. you're talking about our house, our homes were important. let me share with our audience some of those vices. indigenous people has been always considered us incapable to manage their funding. wired to have been kept. what would to protect or climate? the environment. i think the best person to get did i did money or not?
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i hope do you manage it in over the way? it's a bearing eliana day to day basis. it is the indigenous community. so experienced the impact of climate change. in my case, it's very bad. it is not only a climate change, it is a change in structure which is affecting indigenous towns. in this case, we're talking about constant rain last year during the panoramic, it flooded the amazon basin. all the rivers in the amazon basin overflowed. on the other hand, you have trouts. so these are things that we are experiencing every day as customers, vivian, toyota. and are you seeing at this increased awareness of indigenous communities have a really good sense of what is best for their own land and what is best for their own communities? is there that sectors now? is it beginning to change? well, i'm is glad to see my, my colleague there not enough from, from the ecuadorian amazon on indigenous peoples have been protecting the
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forests, whether from the amazon, congo, indonesia, they are the best protectors of the force of the bio diversity. in fact, 80 percent of our planets biodiversity are on indigenous peoples lands. and so that's why whether you're a cock, $27.00 talking about you know, protecting forests and indigenous peoples, being the guardians, and the stewards of the forest. or you're at cop 15 that's taking place now, which is the biodiversity convention. the, with a critical, critical commitment that we need out of these global gatherings is not only the recognition of indigenous peoples as guardians, but as protectors and defenders. and that are definitely capable. and they've been doing it for thousands of years, definitely capable of protecting and managing their own force and the resources to protect those force. i am going to bring it, i think. what yeah. what is really important is, is,
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is that the clutches that have been made by government and by private companies as well, the money that i've been charged that then we find ways to make sure the money actually reaches those communities on the ground. all right, 5, let me, let me put this tea. this is joe from a little bit. early on he, he joined our conversation from his, the rainforest foundation, u. k. he, he challenged us to answer this question, but you kind of bring it out quite nicely. so he is joe, have a listen to joe, and they respond to him immediately, containing half of the world's remaining tropical forests is unsurprising that the d r. c, brazil, and in the media. come together in this kind of way. however, beyond the rhetoric what these countries are actually doing to safeguard their forests, as well as the rights of tens of millions of indigenous peoples and other local communities in happy these areas. for example, in the r c,
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the government recently auctioned 30 or and gas blocks covering millions of factors and the crew that central p lands the largest terrestrial carbon sink on earth. and also recently signal this intention to lift a 20 year ban on new logging sessions in the country. so when we talk about a new path to protect forests, any funding needs to be attached to improve forest governance, routing out corruption. and most importantly, channeling support to those in the front lines of tropical deforestation. well, it's, it's right. what, what joe is saying here on the deer see government in particular, it is sending mixed signals to the international community and, and trying to show its commitment to for, to forrest a conservation through this alliance for example. and then on the other hand, auction of oil blogs in the rain forest and in pizza. and that are critical for the,
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for the global climate. so it, it, yeah, the question is, how serious are day about about these commitments and, and i think there's, there's, there's thought that means also that there is a role to play for international community to keep them accountable. and to, to follow up on their support as well. can i ask you this because i know you specialize are in the d r. c. how serious would you say the d r c? is it, it's a country that you know very well about protecting their tropical rain fire. oh, well, they are saying like i said that the government is giving off next signal. so these, these oil blocks that are, that are being auctioned off or ready. just going to be destructive for 40 rang for us and for the global climate as well. this, this range for this is taking carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and more than 3,
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leasing at the moment and thereby providing a surface so you will to, to all of us the humanity and in fighting climate change. so when we lose that surface as well, it makes even harder for us to, to, to, to attain to paris, paris. the finally got some questions from that audience who were very pointed in what they would like to know. what kind of emergency are we in regarding our rain force? so on youtube, joe says that saving the roy and brain for a sounds good. but how about saving it's people, the children of the rain for us later thoughts? very briefly this. i mean, i, literally, we're thinking we got it back up here and talk about what the state of, of the amazon in the state of the forest are. and the amazon rain forest,
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which is what i focus on and what our organization focus is on. the amazon is in a state of emergency. the amazon is added shipping point and why it's going back to what, what art was talking about. it's about the deforestation. it's about the degree degradation, it's about the lawlessness, the illegal activity, the illegal logging, the legal mining, and also the legal, the permissions incentivized by the government in brazil in particular, incentivizing land grabbing, incentivizing agribusiness expansion, fossil fuel extraction, mineral extraction, whether it be legal or illegal all of this has led to the amazon reinforce being at a tipping point. and so it's added to being point. and indigenous peoples who are on the front lines are under attack because they're defending their
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reinforce or defending their land or defending their ancestral territories. so what they are calling on all of us. they are joining together. indigenous peoples, scientists, activists, academics and geo allies were all coming together to say for the amazon, we must protect permanently 80 percent of the amazon by 2025. not 2030, not 20. 40 or 50? we need urgent commitments now. and that means we need lulu as a newly elected president of brazil on to do what is he said in his campaign, primarily. lynette would let us ha, yes. let's remind what is what he said, what he promised. so this is the, our president elect for brazil. yes. let's have a listen. judy, the school for years because you this to your companions. there's no climate
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security for the world without to protect is amazon. we will spend no efforts to have 0 deforestation. and the degradation of our biomes by 2030 and i will be asthma. that means that they get that. so the, what was political globally were we are going to rigorously punish those responsible for any illegal activity. whether mining gold digging would extraction or agricultural occupation. these crimes affect mostly indigenous people. this is why we will create the ministry of indigenous people so that they can present to the government's policies that guarantee them, that survival, security piece, and sustainability and accused bribery useless approve it our view as one show via ye chiva, mixing, politics and conservation. they do go handing had a laura mentions at both scenarios, the outgoing president of brazil has consistently had no concern for the rain voice . so now what so you heard the sound know, are coming from the preston elect again on youtube. and i'm going to ask you to do this very briefly so we can get in many, many thoughts from out what is,
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who are watching? what are the main challenges when we're looking at safeguarding actually call rein voice for you? what is the number one challenge? ok, so number one, tenants of course are related to spot and see and then a credible mechanism, i think i think mentally in, in here is a lot of a deal before it's not really transparent. and then also it's go to the fake solution. because if we're talking about these the emission, for example, there is a one market solution coming from the globe as business go by. but just for, for our, for our, for you this,
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this is part of what's going. so we need to make sure that no solution and the deal based on current market, the low polluting countries to use that in forest, of this radian to offset their mission, will undermine on the real solution. they sing house, guess a mission. so there must be no deal. the low polluting concept is to keep breaking in on the planet. he keep them now we need to map zachary, so taking a moment you said fake solution bought and, and lane is start ignoring the head very, very emphatically. what have you seen? that is definitely a fake solution to preserving at tropical rain forests. well, of financing for, for, for conservation is really needed, but carbon markets are really problematic. because very often what you see is that the claims are being made of,
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of amount of carving being avoided. carbon emissions being avoidance that, that haven't been backed by reality. so the transparency of how, how those markets are being managed and how does this quantity are, are calculated, it's really important. and so if there is going to be any alliance between the 3 countries, especially in terms of a common carbon market for, for a far as put protection then then how, how that is being managed needs to be very transparent and exactly. and we can't, they are coming out of cop 27. i think a lot of us were happy about the loss and damage fund. it is reparations for those most affected. and yet, you know, there's, you know, the fossil fuel industry continues to dominate on the, on the climate and the biodiversity discussions and what, you know, and,
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and what this means is that we're, we're coming up with band aid solutions for what we really need to do. instead of saying, we need to de carbonized and really commit to reducing our, our use of fossil fuels and shifting from extraction to a just transition. we're still allowing the fossil fuel industries to do business as usual, and allow them to continue to pollute and say they're protecting forests, are investing in protecting forests when they're not. and they're just talking about offsetting solutions, which are, are not true solutions to protecting. i'm just looking at my laptop, but is some of the thoughts and ideas that came out of cult 27. have a look here on my laptop. columbia will propose creating an amazon block against
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deforestation. and then earlier we spoke to layla, seen who was also talking about a bigger alliance, not just indonesia, brazil, and the democratic republic of congo. but many more countries. this is what she told us. so despite the fact that the global rate of voice destruction has slowed down in 2021 in 2022, it is still not enough to meet the 2030 commitments made last year by 140 countries . and because forest are so vital to combat climate change, establish it at 1.5 degrees we've seen again this year during caught 27 the launch of several international initiatives to keep last year's momentum alive by accelerating the implementation of actions to both hold deforestation. and forest degradation by 2030, with a special focus on sustainable forest management and the role of indigenous peoples and local communities in preserving these ecosystem. so yes,
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it is alive and now we need to implement wiki, what do you think needs to happen for everybody to act with a sense of urgency with which you've been talking to us here on the stream night. we at the, at now 2025 is, is like tomorrow. basically. there's no time at all. what do we need to act that quickly? yeah, so i think, i think i thought everybody also mentioned that though we need to act now for our are more, more clear aiken and, and also we need to more modern end at a called mission aqua, where we need to be one coin cookie. what would you say was the catalyst? because i hear layla saying 2025. i do not think it's going to happen because we don't act fast enough, kiki, what's the catalyst gonna be ah, you can be honest. you can say we're not gonna make it that you can be honest,
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but yeah, going to be pressing the show. yeah, i think i think, i think you right. i mean that we are, we are also in be optimistic and also the mistake. and like for example, for example, in the nation, it's a we, we have the government said that the already prospects being more than 50 percent of the product are yeah, yeah. however, in the same time, also government indonesia. but i still opening the face month to to opening the predict not sure, not predicts about the foot example when we're facing we have the funded mix, it w, it's all mentioning that every country needs to be prepared for what could it be
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and government, indonesia coming with the solution for foot with this opening and therefore we just this is also fake solution. ok. i think they be seconds later that is half a sentence. i am kids experts between optimistic and peasant mistake. what is one sentence? the clothes i show with one sentence later, we need to keep forest standing and we more tory, i'm on the further destruction with it, whether the fossil fuels logging mineral extraction, we need more time on the destruction. and we need to keep the force dandy and we need investments in protection, in the destruction of the reinforce. thank you. layla and key key and bar. and the view is for your conversation on youtube. a question was, can i knew triple alliance save ring voice from ruin? and the question, and the answer to that is, we are not sure we're halfway between optimistic and pessimistic,
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