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and levels from between 121-0000 times natural levels, including 25 percent of mammals, 14 percent of birds, 33 percent of reef corals, and 40 percent of amphibians. our world's rich by diversity is a source of constant wonder. would all say critical to the health of our planet and mosaic of life that must be preserved. mcclark al jazeera, madagascar. ah, this is al jazeera and these are the top stories this. our officials in germany say the country has foiled a far right plot to overthrow its government. 25 people, including a soldier and a judge, were detained. when police raided $130.00 sites across germany, a russian nes, national, is among the detained detainees. dominic cane has the latest from berlin,
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intense competition, we're now down to the final 8. we've witnessed some seismic upside, but many of the world's top team still remains are 2022 on al jazeera with i am from you. okay. brazil, indonesia, and the democratic republic of congo are some of the most critical reinforce in the whole while so critical that they are often referred to as the lungs of the world. in november, the 3 countries find an alliance, which is to aim to safeguard the rain forest in indonesia, brazil, and the democratic republic of congo. so on this episode of the street, we are asking if this trip or lions can really save our rain forests. do you have an opinion? i know you have
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a comment section is right here and you to be part of today's discussion. ah hello bart's and key key and layla. so good to have your expertise with us on today's discussion bart, please say hello to our audience around the well, tell them who you are and what you do. hello, good evening. thanks for having me on the show. i'm barker say, i am a trouble ecologist. i specialize in pizza forest in the central congo basin, and particularly in the democratic republic of congo, where i've been working for a number of years. and i'm also an environmental journalist and a search for these issues closely. he came, welcome to the stream, please introduce yourself to our audience. thank you. hello, good morning. i am ticket baltic. i live for indonesia, for his game, been globally for getting
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b a. so these are sierra indonesia. i miss india at the bottom. i layla welcome to the stream, say later what, it's how the who you are and what you do. hello everyone. good morning. good afternoon, evening. wherever you are. ah, my name is layla, salazar lopez. i am the executive director of amazon watch and we work to protect and defend the amazon and our climate in solidarity with indigenous peoples. and i'm calling in from san francisco, california fast reaction gas. when you heard about the triple lines between indonesia, the d r. c. m, brazil. what did you think? layla thoughts in a sentence? of course are at these global gatherings. there's lots of announcements and pledges and commitments made and we need a lot more commitments. immediate for protecting our forests and our climate. so yes, of course. welcome. this announcement now it's about the implementation. if this is
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really true, be a reality. let of actually really need law commitments. how many commitments do we need? because we get commitments, but we don't get action and action that's delivered. i remember being in glasgow. jane caught $26.00 and it was such an amazing cop for rain forest. it wasn't the rain for his call. and a lot of those promises have been walked back pretty quickly. let me just bring in here, but, but i know you know the d r c really well the d r c was quite prominent in those promises made about the rain forest. and then a few months later they were prospecting for fossil fuels, a no same voice, they were going to protect. i am deeply cynical bar, should i be? well, i think that's part of the right. yeah. there's the reason to be cynical about those clutches, especially if you look at what is happening in the congo base where the government
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is facilitating all your exploration and gas exploration on your end for us. but then at the same time these, these, there's a lie and if it's important and my really help to to share lester among these 3 different countries that have been learned in the past. that they can, that they can, can learn from each other and, and also it might make it easier to, to keep them accountable. when they go ahead and i saw on your mind, go ahead. well, you know, going back to gloss, go. there was over $1700000000.00 pledged by government by private institutions, by foundations, to elevate the importance and commit to protecting forests and indigenous peoples. only 7 percent of that pledge have been actually allocated to indigenous peoples organizations to the ford foundation. we just saw the fund i caught $27.00 about
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lawson damage, which is for me that, that is critical for many of us work with communities on the front lines are facing the fires and the lines and that govern station by the climate crisis. we know that these funds are critical. they are reparations for the people that have been mostly heart, but they need to be they need to be implemented quickly. we don't have another 10 years taking. i see you nodding. go ahead. john, i conversation he, i think i think that because the global, not the role is in the driving station and because the beneficiary of buy it for the been a plus system, that piece is our remaining parts for quite well begun. 30 months profile financing for an abrupt action, amber exploration of therapy, cold water. importantly, this must be thorough,
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credible funding mechanism that prospected human drive out of transport on and do not. i think that's it. to be be louder. we need to make sure our water, the final thing off the water is protection. but we are welcome the corporation of this because we are very similar killings of low, but i'd be a business day being there for a station in our 3 countries. what does that cooperation kate kicking? what does that mean? is it, you're going to share scientists? you're going to show the notes. you're going to pledge that you're not going to do for any more of your tropical rain force. what does that alliance actually mean? ok. so the corporation mended spirit r s i thing barked or
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a dimension before the weekend saying that her or the expert bios reconciling a but there our experience also ah, most of what our most of most importantly, as i mentioned before is are we need to put ah, ah, ah, the indigenous people, ah, because indigenous people are creepy. go to puerto, it's so glad to hear you said 5, you know, i'm so glad you said that at the recent un climate conference known as cop 27, which happened in egypt. indigenous voices rose up and said, you need to include us when we're talking about the rain forest. you're talking about our house, our homes were important. let me share with our audience some of those vices. indigenous people has been always considered us incapable to manage their funding wired to have been kept. what would to protect or climate? the environment. i think the best person to get did i did money or not?
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i hope do you manage it in over the way? it's a bearing eliana day to day basis. it is the indigenous community. so experienced the impact of climate change. in my case, it's very bad. it is not only a climate change, it is a change in structure which is affecting indigenous towns. in this case, we're talking about constant rain last year during the panoramic, it flooded the amazon basin. all the rivers in the amazon basin overflowed. on the other hand, you have trouts. so these are things that we are experiencing every day as customer vivian, toyota. and are you seeing at this increased awareness of indigenous communities have a really good sense of what is best for their own land and what is best for their own communities? is there that sectors now? is it beginning to change? well, i glad to see my, my colleague there, not enough from ecuador and amazon. indigenous peoples have been protecting
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the forests, whether from the amazon, congo, indonesia, they are the best protectors of the force of the bio diversity. in fact, 80 percent of our planet, bio diversity are on a digital people plants. and so that's why whether you're a cock $27.00 talking about you know, protecting forests and indigenous people, being the guardians, and the stewards of the forest or your ca 15 of taking place now, which is the bio diversity convention. the, with a critical, critical commitment that we need out of these global gatherings is not only the recognition of indigenous peoples as guardians, but as protectors and defenders. and that are definitely capable. they've been doing it for thousands of years, definitely capable of protecting and managing their own force and the resources to protect the force i am going to bring, i think what, what is really important is,
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is, is that the touches that have been made by government and by private companies as well, the money that have been patched that that'd be fine away. so make sure that the money actually reaches communities on the ground. all right, 5, have let me, let me put this to you. this is joe from a little bit early on he, he joined our conversation from, he's the ring for the nation, u. k. he, he challenged us to answer this question by you kind of bring it out quite nicely. his joe, have anything to joe, and then respond to him immediately, containing parts of the world's remaining tropical forests is unsurprising that the d r. c, brazil, and in the media. come together in this kind of way. however, beyond the rhetoric, well, these countries actually doing the same got their forests, as well as the right to tens of millions of indigenous peoples and other local communities. the unhappy these areas. for example, in the city,
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the government recently auctioned 30 or and gas blocks covering millions of factors and the crew that central p lands the largest terrestrial carbon sink on. it also recently ignored its intention to live to 20 ban on new learning sessions in the country. so when we talk about a new path to protect forests, any funding needs to be attached to improve forest governance, routing out corruption. and most importantly, channeling support to those in the front lines of tropical deforestation. so it's right what, what joe is saying here. the document in particular, it is sending mixed signals to the international community one and trying to show its commitment to for, to, for conservation to reduce alliance for example. and then on the other hand, auction of oil blogs in your area for us and, and,
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and pieces that are critical for the, for the, for the global climate. so it, it, yeah, the question is, how serious our day about, about these commitments. and i think that does that mean so, so that there is a role to play for the international community to keep them accountable and to, to follow up on their support as well. can i ask you that? because i know you specialize in the d. c. how serious would you say that the thing is, it's just, it's the country that you know very well about protecting their tropical rain force? well, they are saying like i said that the, the government is giving off next signal. so these, these oil blocks that are, that are being auctioned off or ready, just going to be destructive for 40, rang for us and for the global climate as well. this, this range for this is taking carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. and more than 3,
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leasing at the moment and thereby providing a surface so you will to, to all of us the humanity and in fighting climate change. so when we lose that surface, it makes even harder for us to, to, to, to attain to parents, parents. finally, got some questions from that audience who were very pointed in what they would like to know. what kind of emergency are we in regarding our rain for us? so on youtube, joe says that saving the royal brain for a sounds good, but how about saving it's people? the children of the rain forest layla thoughts very briefly this. i mean, i literally were thinking we got to back up here and talk about what the state of, of the amazon in the state of the forest are. and the amazon rain forest,
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which is what i focus on. and what our organization focuses on, the amazon is in a state of emergency. the amazon is added shipping point. and why it's going back to what, what art was talking about. it's about the deforestation. it's about the degree degradation. it's about the lawlessness, the illegal activity, the illegal logging, the legal mining, and also the legal, the permissions incentivized by the government in brazil in particular, incentivizing land grabbing, incentivizing agribusiness expansion, fossil fuel extraction, mineral extraction, whether it be legal or illegal. all of this has led to the amazon reinforce being at a tipping point. and so it's added to being point. and indigenous peoples who are on the front lines are under attack because they're defending their reinforce
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or defending their land or defending their m festal territories. so what they are calling on all of us. they are joining together. indigenous peoples, scientists, activists, academics and geo allies were all coming together to say for the amazon, we must protect permanently 80 percent of the amazon by 2025. not 2030, not 20. 40 or 50? we need urgent commitments now. and that means we need lulu as a newly elected president of brazil on to do what is he said in his campaign, primarily. lynette would let us ha, yes. let's remind what is what he said, what he promised. so this is the, our president elect for brazil. yes. is have a listen. you do the school for years because you this here companions, there's no climate security for the world without to protect it. amazon. we will
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spend no efforts to have 0 deforestation. and the degredation of our biomes by 2030 and i will give them up. that means that they get that. so would be what was political globally war? we are going to rigorously punish those responsible for any illegal activity. whether mining gold digging would extraction or agricultural occupation? so these crimes affect mostly indigenous people. this is why we will create the ministry of indigenous people so that they can present to the government's policies that guarantee them, that survival, security piece, and sustainability and accused probably useless. i prefer to have you as one chose via ye, chiva, mixing politics and conservation. they do go and, and had a laura mentioned that both scenarios, the outgoing president of brazil has consistently had no concern for the rain for a so now what so you heard the sound know, are coming from the preston elect again on youtube. and i'm going to ask you to do this very briefly so we can get in many, many thoughts from out what is,
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who are watching? what are the main challenges when we're looking at safeguarding actually call rein voice for you? what is the number one challenge? ok, so number one, tenants of course are related to spot and see and then a credible make a new some i think i think mental in, in, in here is a lot of deal before. it's not really transparent. and then also it's go to the fake solution because if we're talking about these the mission, for example, there is a one market solution coming from the the global as basically global, not just for, for our, for our, for you did this,
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this is part of the lots are legion, so we need to make sure that no solution and the deal based on current market, the low polluting countries to use that in forest, of this radian to offset their mission, will undermine on the real solution. they does sing house, guess a mission. so there must be no deal. the low polluting concept is to keep breaking on the planet. he keep them now we need to map zachary, so taking a moment you said, fake solution bought and, and lane studies nodding their head very, very emphatically. what have you seen bought that is definitely a fake solution to preserving at tropical rain forests. well, of financing for, for, for conservation is really needed, but carbon markets are really problematic. because very often what you see is that the claims are being made of,
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of amount of carving being avoided. carbon emissions being avoidance that, that haven't been backed by reality. so the transparency of how, how those markets are being managed and how does those quantities are, are calculated, it's really important. and so if there is going to be any alliance between these 3 countries, and especially in terms of a common carbon market for, for a far as put protection, then then how, how that is being managed needs to be very transparent. and exactly, we can't, they are coming out of cop 2070. think a lot of us, we're happy about the loss and damage fund. it is reparations for those most affected. and yet, you know, there's, you know, the fossil fuel industry continues to dominate on the, on the climate and the biodiversity discussions and what, you know, and,
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and what this means is that we're, we're coming up with band aid solutions for what we really need to do. instead of saying, we need to de carbonized and really commit to reducing our, our use of fossil fuels and shifting from extraction to a just transition. we're still allowing the fossil fuel industries to do business as usual, and allow them to continue to pollute and say they're protecting forests, are investing in protecting forests when they're not. and they're just talking about offsetting solutions, which are, are not true solutions to protecting. i'm just looking at my laptop, but is some of the thoughts and ideas that came out of cult 27. have a look here on my laptop. columbia will propose creating an amazon block against
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deforestation. and then earlier we spoke to layla, seen who was also talking about a bigger alliance, not just indonesia, brazil, and the democratic republic of congo. but many more countries. this is what she told us. so despite the fact that the global rate of voice destruction has slowed down in 2021 in 2022, it is still not enough to meet the 2030 commitments made last year by $140.00 countries. and because forest are so vital to combat climate change, establish it at 1.5 degrees we've seen again this year during caught 27 the launch of several international initiatives to keep last year's momentum alive by accelerating the implementation of actions to both hold deforestation. and forest degradation by 2030, with a special focus on sustainable forest management and the role of indigenous peoples and local communities in preserving these ecosystem. so yes,
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it is alive and now we need to implement. okay, what do you think needs to happen for everybody to act with a sense of urgency with which you've been talking to us here on the stream night? we have the at now 2025 is is like tomorrow basically, there's no time at all. what do we need to act that quickly? yeah, so i think, i think i thought everybody also mentioned that though we need to act now for our are more, more clear aiken and, and also we need to more modern in that a called mission of wow. where we need to be one played kicky. what would you say was the catalyst? because i hear layla saying 2025. i do not think it's going to happen because we don't act fast enough, kiki, what's the catalyst gonna be ah, you can be honest. you can say we're not gonna make it right. you can be honest.
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well yeah, going to be pressing the show. yeah, i think i think, i think you right. i mean that we are, we are also in between optimistic and also the mystic seabreeze. like for example, for example, in the nation, it's a we, we have the government said that the already prospects being more than 50 percent of the product aria. yeah. however, in the same time, also government indonesia. but i to still opening the in face month to to opening predict not sure, not predicts about the right foot. what example when we're facing, we have pundum and w. it's all mentioning that anybody can say no need to be prepared for what could
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it be? and government indonesia, coming with the solution for that with this opening and therefore we just, this is also fake solution. i think they be seconds later that is half a sentence. i am kids lactose between optimistic and peasant mistakes. what is one sentence to close? i show with one sentence later, we need to keep for a standing and we know more tori, i'm on the further destruction with it, whether the fossil fuels logging mineral extraction. we need a moratorium on the destruction and we need to keep the force standing. and we need to investments in the protection, not in the destruction of the reinforce. thank you. layla and key key and bar. and the view is for your conversation on youtube. a question was, can i knew triple lion save ring for it from ruin? and the question, and the answer to that is, we are not sure we're halfway between optimistic or pessimistic,
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