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involved in race management, but it's hoped over the next 10 years, these conservation projects can be scaled up to include more ganges scientists are also came to share this skill sets. it's a really unique partnership to work across different groups like this. it really hasn't been done in this way before, and i think there's an object opportunity with this project to bring it up and down the great barrier reef in this different catchment. the team has released 30000000 co lovers since the project began 3 years ago. it's a small step, but one in the right direction for a reef the united nation says is in danger. sarah clark out a 0 cans ah tougher picture of the headlines here on al jazeera argentina through to the world cup, so finals off to of tense victory of the netherlands and a penalty shootout was to all of the extra time. argentina will now face croatia in the last 4 of the been knocked out another south american giant russia
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between brazil into an attempt to shoot out out. it was one all. at the end of extra time, russian president vladimir putin says future prisoner swaps with the united states are possible convicted armstead of victor boots back in russia after the u. s. released him in exchange for basketball player brittany grammar, who has accused the west of trying to destroy russia particle hang as more from washington d. c. vernie griner, we believe is still being evaluated at a military hospital in texas. she hasn't spoken publicly yet, but a whole lot of people are speaking out about this. the president president joe biden getting a lot of criticism, mostly from republican politicians and also conservative media. and it's pretty twofold one. they say that this makes russian president vladimir putin look strong . and joe biden look week. and the reason for that is the white house was pretty open about what they wanted, the swap to look like. they wanted. britney greiner paul whelan, in exchange for victor boot. obviously wheeling didn't come home, but un,
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security council has meant to hear activation, some russia, that a weapons applied to ukraine of ended up in the hands of criminal again. but moscow is facing allegations from the you can bachelor to the you in the kremlin is buying drones from iran and north korea. protests up continued in peru, 2 days after the rest of impeach, president federal castillo, former leader support not dividing his release and held rallies across the country . he was detained and removed from power on the wednesday, after attempting to shut down congress and rule by decrease. us democrats came to their fragile control, the senate, after sitting sen announced plans to lead the party. i was in as customs to name a, decided to register as an independent. she says she has, she no longer wishes to participate in the bi partisan structure of the us government. so those are the headlines. news continues here on out to 0 after inside story stage. one thanks so much bye.
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ah. cruise president pedro castillo impeached and detained. argentina's vice president, christina kurtz in a convicted of corruption. what's behind this wave of investigation and criminal charges at the highest echelons of power in latin america? this is inside story. ah. hello there and welcome to the program. i'm the star theater. now, a week ago, he was sitting at his presidential desk, now peruse,
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formerly that pedro castillo sits in a prison cell, impeached by the same congress that he tried to dismiss. he faces charges of rebellion. earlier criminal investigations also continued. now his removal came the same week as argentine as vice president christina coach now was convicted of corruption. the former president's immunity keeps her out of jail. but unless she wins any appeal, a political career could be over all this just weeks off to brazil elected luna da silva, president for a 2nd time. it's a dramatic reversal after 18 months in jail for corruption before his conviction was an old. so why have several current left us leaders in latin america been under investigation and put that to our guests in just a moment. but 1st, this report from marianna sanchez and lima on castillo is down for marching for their former leader supporters. a feeble casteel gathered outside the prison where she's been held from the heart of the capital city to the south of the country supporter say they want him freed it is latest
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political. my system who did on wednesday, when cathy was impeached by congress. when he left the presidential palace the order to arrest him had already been issued, he was on his way to the mexican embassy to seek asylum. but cassius own escorts were instructed to detain him at gunpoint. he was flown to this prison on the outskirts of the capitol, where he'll stay for at least the next 7 days as an investigation into allegations of rebellion. and conspiracy gets under way a good, a good. his lawyer has rejected the charges and says casting his detention is illegal outside, angry supporters blamed the new precedent enough on what the forecast the years down for us as a man not miss. and as yet, until a month ago, she was saying that if diana say she castillo, there would go with him. now she takes over the presidency and says,
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she doesn't agree with a crew the top one water based, believe 6th precedent in 5 years. and the 1st woman to lead the nation on her 1st full day in office. she appealed for a political truce, but refused to rule out the possibility of early elections. just take a al moon as was some voices are calling to have early elections and that is democratically respectable. i think that after the assumption of the presidency, it's time for a bit of our reorientation of what's to be done with a country audience. 7 opinion pull, say 87 percent of peruvians want fresh elections, frustrated by years of political turmoil, most of beatles, former leaders are being investigated for some form. village at corruption. castillo is being held, sink prison, as former precedent under the city, marty. i feel, and i read the whole he, marty, who is serving a 25 year sentence for human rights abuses. they are the only 2 former resident of
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hayden close congress illegally. you know, one of the wants to bring an end to the political feuding which has paralyzed the country for years. as she chooses those who will be in her cabinet. she wants to show poor peruvians, they will not be forgotten. mariana, sancho felt us. he don't leave happy to our father south on the continent. argentina's vice president, christina fernandez. the coach know was sentenced to 6 years in prison. convicted of a $1000000000.00 fraud to raise the bar has worn out from foreigners aries. oh, these are so borders of christina for an under the kirshner who came to the federal court building in when a site is to protest against argentine. as to dca commissioner was sentenced to 6 years in prison and given a lifetime ban on holding public office after being found guilty of corruption. it's the 1st time an argentinean vice president has been convicted of a crime wellston office. 3 months ago,
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cushion was the target of an assassination attempt. when a man pulled the trigger of his hand gun inches from her face as she greeted supporters, the gun failed to fire. ha kirschner is accused of directing millions of dollars of public works contracts to a family friend. the former president denies all charges, accusing the trivial in charge of a political witch hunt, and serving the interests of the opposition. you don't want to proceed. this is much simpler, it's not, no fair, but it's not a judiciary party. it's not a patent state and mafia. it's a judicial mafia, christine operating under the version of word, argentina, reference for 8 years between 20072000. the lease is now this country's vice president. she's a divisive, bigger invest control. while there are many who continued to some water, there are many others who would like to see her in prison. kirshner is expected to
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be against the court's decision. despite her conviction, she has congressional immunity and isn't likely to head to jail any time soon. ah, ah, let's not bring in our guests in london. we have javier far. hey, he is a journalist and also an analyst on latin american affairs. in one of the areas we have sebastian the cleanser, he is a senior reporter for red intelligence, latin america, and a former editor of the burners areas, harold and in managua, nicaragua, ben norton, investigative journalist, and also the founder and editor of multi port polo vista and independent news website that's based in latin america, a warm welcome teacher. thank you for joining us on inside story gentlemen. there's obviously been a lot that's happened in latin america in just the last few days, plenty to one pick. so i want to start in peru. hedrick is to years obviously made some decisions that have lost him. lots of allies landed him in prison. but i do
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want to take a bit of a, a step back and have a look at the corruption allegations against him. he says that they're politically motivated. javier, is that fair? well, it's very difficult to determine that because in that, in america, in peru anyway, the border between the legally legal issue issues and political issues is very, very blurry. in the case of the of mr. castillo accusations, i had a chance to reap the hall in diamond by the attorney general. and although the attorney general pro wise evidence that members of his in the circle way involving corruption, there is no direct link between them and pressure. and kathy, you, which is a bit of a tricky issue in 5 or many a jury's so many, especially on legal issues in peru say that it would be very difficult for that to stand up in court. because the only reason why the attorney general linked mister cost to you to these cases, because these people were part of his, in the sequel relatives friends and all that. but there's not that it linked this
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more evidence that is that the billing, i'm not saying that the reasoning is said, that there's more evidence legal ebby that they said that the link between president got to you. and he's our, he's and did corrupt people that were being indicted. he's been accused of been the head of a lee of her criminal enterprise. but the attorney general did not provide enough evidence to link him directly with his case of corruption. many people accused of being of being neglectful of being or been terms of not looking after, you know, the interest of the presidency. but the link is very, very frightened, fragile. and it would have been very difficult to prove in court unless he provis, and they provide concrete evidence that he was directly involved or he directly benefited promoted or encouraged is kind of acts of corruption. okay. well then turning to argentina, we've obviously had some similar accusations from christina kutner and she says that part of the case against her is an attack by a parallel mafia state. sebastian, who is she talking about one because it's related to it. they used
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to be a close friend of the leg, press and metal. let's talk about a who became and are now are going to talk or, or warms in the properties of santa cruz in the very south. but that one is moved to one side is one next or was elected press. so then something around the lead to investigate why this person all end up having mediums. doses of mediums of dollars in bank accounts in the same time the prosecute or didn't find. busy to your evidence of a connection between the for to know these disease mcknight
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christine up under the keys. her pe, tina said that. ready she's big team she's being offered while it's pointing to the other guy. but there are maybe that there are reasons to think that and there is a national, broad between man leader of the oppositional part of the server. the alliance of the job sherry spies, which is the main, the group. so there's a bit of speculation that sebastian, i know, been, you've done some digging into this. i want to understand how, what cut is alleging could actually be possible. surely this is a strength of the question of, of institutions and not need the strength of them but their integrity as well. but
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we need to understand that argentina in so very recently in the 1980s was a dictatorship. there were no democratic institutions until early 1983 and many of those institutions are very weak. and the judicial system as an example of this. and it is weaponized by the political opposition. in fact, since 2004, there have been 650 for judicial cases, filed all, almost all of them frivolous against christina finance. they cared center by the right wing opposition. in fact, 6 individuals, just those individuals have filed between 20 and 74 lawsuits. against her, so what we see is a constant concerted political attack using that the judicial system against her as a weapon is called law fair legal warfare. and we also have leaked messages and photos and videos showing that prosecutors and judges were conspiring with the riling opposition. and with large media corporations like the global claudine,
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which is the main kind of conservative media outlet like fox news and argentina, which supports the right wing for president mighty seal market. there are photos showing some of the prosecutors in an airport meeting with members of this company . when she says that there is a a parallel mafia state that's not elected. that mean that's not wrong. i mean, the reality is we have evidence showing that these compromised prosecutors were directly collaborating with the opposition and flying on their planes and going to their mansions. oh, well, i want to take that moment to talk a little bit more about institutions, that the weakness and the strength of them. because as he tried to dissolve congress, i recall castillo was accusing parliamentarians of what was at destroying the root of law and trying to establish a congressional dictatorship in some might argue that a congressional dictatorship led by elected officials as a form of democracy. riot. i want to take a look at a graphic because i believe period has had what 10 presidents now in the last 2 decades now to would just short some temporary interim office holders. but the
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other is we either ousted, jailed or detained. one of them died via suicide. 10 presidents in 2 decades. and what for in just the last 2 years that instability, that level of instability, heavier. how is that contributed to the situation that we're facing now? oh, did this political system improve? is broken. it is not questionable that you have mentioned all the present who are being indicted. one of the indices, waiting for to be extra added to peru alejandro. label alan garcia, committed suicide, or the princes are under house arrest. in the case of mister castillo, the announcement he made on wednesday there wednesday, the 7th of december took everybody by surprise. according to the constitution, he cannot close down congress by himself. he cannot do. doug got violated an article of the constitution that bank him for doing that does the 1st thing, 2nd, when congress got the day before he was,
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he was still discussing his defense against attempts to impeach him in congress. your position in congress had managed to get in a halt to debate the issue, but not to, to sucking they didn't have enough vote for that. he would have probably survived at vote on wednesday and tuesday evening can know that he was going to go to congress to defend himself on wednesday. mean they care now cruel. that he was closing congress, that he was already in the reorganization of the leisure, which he has not allowed to do that. and also the constitutional tribunal. and i was caught every one by surprise. all his ministers resign on the armed forces and in any country latin america you cannot conduct a cool without the support of the armed forces. an hour after the announced was made, the armed forces said that they would not support this because this was unconstitutional . and of course, a deal after after this announcement, the congress man that it was, he shall manage to get in a vote to indict and to impeach the answer. he sorry to interrupt that any longer
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sounds to me like a real triumph of institutions. it shows the strength of the constitution and the press has been. i'm curious, i want to throw this to you because i see that mexico is standing by castillo, and he is there considering offering him asylum, the president, and as manuel. if, as i've read or described this as a soft crew, is this been left to solidarity, or is arbor door potentially concerned that something similar can happen to him? well, it certainly was a congressional cou. i mean, it's true that what castillo did, and dissolving the congress was legally in a gray area, although in the constitution, which we can talk about in a 2nd, which is deeply compromise. and he wanted to change the constitution to prevent these kinds of cues in the future. but it does provide the possibility for the president to dissolve congress in certain cases of obstruction ism, and the congress in peru is that perfect description is obstructionist. it has
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taken every single step since day one to prevent castillo, the elected president from being able to govern. that's why there have been 6 presidents in 5 years because there's an article in the constitution that goes back to the fuji more a dictatorship, which ended in 2000. let's not forget who had a far right dictatorship until 2000. and fuji more committed genocide. he sterilized indigenous women, and his children are prominent politicians in the opposition. his daughter came close to becoming president, take a fuji morty. the point is that he left behind this, this dictate tauriel constitution that allows the congress to remove an elected president with a majority vote if the president is deemed to have moral incapacity. that means nothing. i mean, basically it opens the possibility for the political opposition to constantly tried to launch a legal coup against the president. and yes, you could say that it was a very unwise move for castillo to,
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it is all the congress. but the reality is that this was the 3rd time in just over a year that the congress was trying to overthrow him, and he was tired of the obstruction ism, so he dissolved it. and let's not forget that the congress, according to the latest paul from a few weeks ago, has a love in percent approval in peru. so this is, these are on democratic actions taken by a very vicious rhyming opposition. and that includes that, the daughter and the son of a former far right dictator. okay, so taking a bit of a step back can we're talking about 2 trees with left us leadership and a region that's notoriously plagued by corruption. i think we can order the population struggling with vast boston, a quality deep disillusionment with public officials. these kinds of narrative that we're hearing on just confined to proven argentina. we've also seen this big shift towards the left in latin america. this coming down your i was having a look at the number that the 1st time i believe or the 7 most populous countries will have left of center governance. if you like,
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the public has also railed preference. a big personality is kind of outside of figures. now, given the rise and populism across the region, sebastian, do you think that it makes these kinds of attacks on, on individual, specifically more effective in it, to, to speak in latin america. that whole or countries are on the environment of our countries are very different from they will be in our for instance, if they're not being paid or in washington politics of your partner in science and said that she feels supported by about one of the population of her approval, right, things are pretty say will be fine or the storm she is in
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the lap dedicate. and so she's still a competitive really one of population of the see the service. one moment here in the left lane in france alliance police is decisive. so this is an ongoing, an ongoing race on many and see who works support to, to be seen. how could it be the $400.00 and box duty. we don't have a site because there are, there are so many. so what, what ross says is that something that
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we got to show well politics can go either way and we've. 1 we've seen both left and right mean governance in power across latin america. while the last century and the last few decades, both governments on the left and the riots have been accused of corruption. and if you off the left, all the rights who is more corrupt, they'll obviously say each other. so do you think then javier, let me throw this to you. is this an attack that we're seeing on the left, or is this simply cyclical power politics that it just happens to be that there are a large number of left as politicians and power at the moment, and they're being attacked by the rice? well, it depends very much on what country you are talking about here in peru, for example, while mr. castillo was elected on the left, when ticket, when he became president, nobody knew exactly where he stood. that is one of the, the well to prove that he had politically speaking for the novel work that the
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current president who's just been appointed by congress, is moral to the left to mr. castillo, done. actually mr. castillo and fuck, and you are tourist, if prime minister until recently of mr. gusty years, ah, come in, it once defended hitler angle saline, which is not exactly something you would expect from somebody who comes from the lift. so they became like a lack of total of political identity in relation to the political side of it. it is absolutely true out our colleagues said that parliament has been trying to put all struggles or to to a mr. castillo government. and they tried to get rid of him, in fact, they wanted to accuse him of trees on which was ridiculous accusation. however, when mister castillo and opposition never had in the vote to impeach him. when mister castillo decided to close congress, he gave ammunition to the opposition to get in or vote because many people in congress who would have been reluctant to him to impeach the president, didn't have a choice, but to ward in favor of the impeachment. so he gave the ammunition to the position
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to get rid of him, and of course he was totally relate. he didn't form any of the members of his cabinet, apart from his, his prime minister. and they were all caught by surprise. his lawyers were caught by surprise. he probably would have won the war against him richmond. that is the irony of the situation i did with his decision he took. he gave ammunition to do what you can rid of him here to get rid of him, which is exactly what happened. i saw it is more than pollyanna, i was a strategy. there was, there were lot of mistakes. sure. i'm going to stop me there because i do want to take a moment or say, look at what lies ahead and the main trend from recent elections. it seems an ass in america has been anti incumbency. what an an opponent says one, the last. what? 16 free presidential contests in the region. so ben, do you think very briefly, we should expect then to see a swing to the riots in the coming months and years? well, it depends on the country. in argentina, the situation is very difficult, especially economically,
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largely because the country is trapped in and payable odious debt owed to the international monetary fund. ironically that that debt, which is $44000000000.00, was taken by the previous writing president madison mockery. but it has really trapped the current government, the center sent for less government to prevent this. and christina th minutes. and it's very likely that in the 2023 elections that are coming up, especially considering that christina said in her speech after the sentence, but she's not going to be running for president. it's vitally the right wing is going to win argentina. and that is going to throw a wrench into the project of regional integration because when lula comes in in brazil on january 1st, he has said clearly that he wants to try to economically integrate latin america to bring back institutions. like when i saw the bank of the south creating a new currency, and it's very likely that in argentina the right is going to come back to power. so, i mean, it, it depends on the country that you're looking at, but certainly argentina is one where i think the less their,
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their control of power is very limited. and then it will be very interesting to see how the various corruption allegations and various leaders across the region also pay out an upcoming elections. how we'll have to leave it there for today though. thank you. so all of our guest, hey, sebastian la crenza and ben norton and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, that's out there a dot com. and for further discussion do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and remember you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is a high story for me in the southeast, hey, i'm the whole team here in the me. ah,
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