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his company last billions of dollars of clients money. at least 7 people have now been killed during protests in peru. demonstrations began last week when former president pedro castillo was impeached and arrested. his success at dina. blue tay says she will ask congress to coal early elections. president joe biden will later host to african ladies in washington as the u. s. 6 to strengthen times with the continent, talks will focus on the corona, virus climate change. russia's invasion of ukraine and trade ukraine officials say at least 4 people have been killed and attacked by russian forces in the east and south. russia has released drone footage showing strikes in the don't yet. region attacks on ukraine's energy. great. have also left millions of people without power, in freezing temperatures, or at those are the headlines i'm emily angland. the news continues here on out to 0 after inside story to stay with us. and then there were, for,
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after the acceleration and excitement of the call to find all the remaining, if even now fight for late in the final as the competition intensified. what have been one of the most surprising will cuts ever join us for action and analysis of the semi finals are 2022 on all these tensions between serbia and cosmo intensify triggered by a dispute over car license plates. it's led to road blocks armed attacks and delayed local elections. what's the bigger issue at play here and come the 2 sides find a way, ford. this is inside story. ah . hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle: what appears to be as simple to speech about car license plates has amplified
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already strained relations between serbia and kosovo. the european union is urging all parties to de escalate, cuz i used to be part of serbia, but ethnic albanians make up 92 percent of the 1800000 people who live there around 6 percent ethnic sub. and they say they've been marginalized subs, began blocking border crossings on saturday of the arrest of a former policeman. he was one of the $600.00 officers who resigned last month in protest against costs of those plans to ban serbian license plates. sabby as president alexander bucetti blamed cost the vote for provoking the situation. we sold on a sunday to watch on the status to learn more about the training. today at the meeting, we discussed what we have to do. what is important is that we appeal to albanians into serbs, to preserve peace, to calm the situation. i appeal to serbs, the northern kosovo and moto, here to be calm and not to fall for provocation with our correspondent audience or
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its reports. from belgrade serbs from cost of north are still blocking main roads in the region using trucks, buses, and heavy machinery. in the same time, cost of police is keeping close. the 2 main border crossing between course of north and serbia engines are very high, and the schools, the north, and course of all do, they are closed. here in belgrade, serbia and national security council held a crisis session. but the president of serbia alex found that voltage declined to elaborate on the adopted steps. he said his fed serbia, demands the release of all serbs, or esther bike or civil police service block. the main road on saturday after the rest of the former sort of policeman, cost of the police later came on their small arms firing several locations, and the stone grenade was thrown at a car of the un mission impossible. but there were no injuries reported voltage claims. the serbia seeks to the fuel standards and underlined the course of all
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serbs must not engage in while is against the nato troops and members of the european union mission their united states and nato. at 4 streams of both parties and demanded the removal of barricades so that the belgrade in pristina can continue further work on a solution for the normalization of relations of serbia. and his former province declared independence in 2008 all news already in belgrade. for inside story, our customers primary, alan kersey accuser, serbia of trying to destabilize the region. he's asked nato to stepan. mccarthy boom. phoebe avenue, we call once again on the nato, a peacekeeping mission and kosovo, to guarantee freedom of movement. the peacekeeping mission in kosovo is supposed to create a calm and safe environment, which also means to have freedom of movement. the blocking of public roads with
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heavy machinery by criminal gangs. that shows and police officers is not exhibited will, and should not be repeated again in the future. we are waiting no exit or kosovo, declared independence from serbia in 2008, 10 years after a war killed at least, 13000 people, the u. f. and major e u countries recognize customers break away, but serbia refuses to do so. cost of a membership of the u. n. is blocked by serbia's ally, russia. around 4000 nato peacekeepers remain on the ground of the alliance, intervene to end the conflict in 1999. they you began sponsoring talks between the 2 sides in 2013 barts. they've made a little progress. resolve in the conflict is one of the main conditions for both countries to join the block. ah, well let's bring in our guests to day. and joining us from christina is jamal rodge, our chairman of the board of association of journalists,
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of kosovo. in belgrade. we have dark ho, try front of edge, director of the institute for national and international security and in new york, david l. phillips, director of the program on peace building and rights at columbia university of a warm welcome to all of you. and to my let's start with what's been happening in northern cost. those a lot of tension that's being building up. what's the situation at the moment? thank you for having me, laura. as we speak, the 3rd day that the serbs have barricaded that role that leads to to cross borders between cross border between coastal on serbia. and they have set up down. some mandate is date off at schools. so hundreds of local serves have overnight dance as well. you know, just to protect the rest of the police officer who coastal government says it's responsible for an attack of happened during the weekend at the offices of
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a local election committee, which was bailey and everything for the 18th of december actions in better order. we were possible due process of search is about and we call but had to subscribe to. the party was wrong when we spoke. and then today i'm not going to was visiting the, the sides of the barricade and he said that the local rabbit to stay there, as long as it takes until this when we pull this up so that it's released. he's one of our unknown because of the blocking of the roles. he wasn't able to be brought to a police station in rita by police. so he's being, however, for $40.00 now at the border. ok,
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a doctor called the course of a prime minister. it's on a pretty fed up with a situation as saying that the once they tow peacekeeping, they can let peacekeeping forces to remove the barricade subs have set out. but how is that, like you to further exacerbate the situation? well, i didn't, could that did feel just a increased earle, a level of wayland at the let's come back to the origin of the, of the problem 8. so basically diesel bristle apiece accord and the refusal of her i'll thought it is in pristine or to implement a sweet schooler, a society of the serbian municipality. so that is the corner of the, of the problem. and i hope that we will had a more diplomacy in the future. and you can see now the consequence of the luck of international community, particularly european union negotiators to bring 2 sites from the table. and to clearly said to clearly stated who actually did not feel full bristle
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a piece of court and then didn't have much more clear situation. obviously, every once leaving in a balcony, a neater feast, we need prosperity. we need the integration scenario and everything. and the most difficult efficient arise when we don't know each other is kind of the connections between belgrade and christian academics, i scientific and many other connections that are breaking up and we hope in the future that we do have a better situation there. ok, are you bronze out as the discussion quite significantly there, but before we do get to those bigger, broad brush issues, darker, what is the situation exactly right now, why i serve ethnic serbs in northern cost of i so unhappy because her piston did not implement fully bristled piece of code and the christian i did not to organize and allow the society of serbian, we see polity and the, the sanger international, the contract. but they said this is a not allowed by constitution of course a lot. and this is a very good,
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problematic because international obligations is about any national. so over you see there is a but a so far from the syrian site that is exactly what i learned from our, our serbian philips in the northern northern coastal world. that there is no a society of serbian communities that mr. could t and a government in pristine or will not do duties for that is the main reasons for revelation and protest. ok a david, do you agree with that? you know, the bigger command commands on there at lake missouri bids so, ah, let's see with the cost on the side of it. if i cancel the latest router, some sort of begun are in the september 1 possible government decided that they had to switch from what casa government deems illegal car plate, which are issued by serbia. and we have to have new license plate which are issued by offer. this is christina,
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it was obviously casa listening to balance it with its borders and the revolving here. so government claims should have the same car to place this car place people in northern, of coastal were using for this 20 years of work, but issued by annual service time resume. actually they build the names of cars like come up for me to a visa for mission and others and are a sign of a severe ruse in kosovo during the night. so it was a greeting process as well, but process so be i didn't and didn't want to implement as part of the agreement, including the i d, 's o. so the service have to have if they're in right. these which automates castillo issued by casa law 30. so a deal was reached because every time in kosovo been in grocery or you would have a special sheet of paper in which to be able to say that they don't recognize kosovo. so you could only enter instead of be over there. so crossover wanted to do
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the same for surveyor visitors coming to crossover by the way, agreed that no part will know stage sheet of paper. but then the car plate was something that sort of polls. they don't want to have their cars with kosovo state, of course of the science. so it manner to kosovo. kind of a civil government saying that they really issue fines that will confiscate the cars. but then after international pressure, kosovo gave up, and it will spawn indefinitely. looser, are still able to have those are those cars. ok, and then all, no, just a year to let me know we've got the license plate issue and i want to get an idea from david what the situation really is that because at the end of november there was an agreement that you guys came together and formed an agreement over that, so just give us an update from the outside perspective as to where we are actually at with this license plate issue. but the discussion about the
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a s. m is shake news sir. kosovo is a model of minority rights through its constitution. by adopting the art of sorry, principles during negotiations. what's happening here is that serbia is looking at provoke a confrontation and it's not acting on its own serbia as acting as a proxy of russia or by involving nato in the dispute. it's trying to broaden the conflict. we need to understand this in broader geopolitical terms. i cassava is an ally of the west. it would not exist without nader's military intervention. or russia wants to cancel that and to create a new fraud and its confrontation with nato. and metro visa as a convenient spot for escalating attentions. it's important that we step back that
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we take a deep breath and we recognize that crossover is sovereign and independent. it's been recognized by more than a 100 countries. serbia needs to accept the fact that at loss gets over because of its crimes. ok. and it's never going back under serbia's control. ok if we can just take, i'll give you a 2nd and i just wanted to just put this, tell you the vision with all my, you know, this issue because each barrel was pretty angry with the cost of an prime minister for raising this issue. given that it is so sensitive, he was angry with him that he raised that at this time and cause these tensions. why did kosovo insist on causing these tensions? ok, it's about sovereignty in control. it's really not about license plants. serbia has consistently rejected or stonewall all the agreements that were reached through the brussels dialogue. it wants to undermine the state building project in kosovo. and it wants to give the united states
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a black eye because the u. s. is the primary backer of crossovers, independence, so let's not make a mistake and focus on license plates or diplomas or area codes. this is a geopolitical struggle with serbia acting as russia agent trying to trying to, i don't get, i think he went to when you would agree that this is a j political struggle, that this issue is about something much bigger than license plates. but do you accept that sab, as rush it back, saying as a, as a proxy for russia? yeah, but 1st of all, this kind of the, there is a, this kind of rhetorics will not bring us to these. we need the situation to come down. and if we use this as an argument, the serbia is a proxy of russia then and that way cost, so its proxy of united states. so what we do have war, i disagree completely with this. and of course, there is nothing in bristol based support or regarding ideas and carpets.
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everything started with government. you please do not erase this issue. we doubt finalizing when you see quality of serbian earth, it's called society of sort of your municipality. so i ask you, please come down, we need diplomacy. we don't need to do so i thought it's from nice piece and cetera, et cetera, because that will not bring us nowhere what we need. now it's more european union presidents negotiations and let's put 2 sites on the table. now let's agreed, who did not, or who feel full, but it russell's piece of course and all we look at the minute below. the problem is, does the serbian president agree with you? i mean, is he following that advice as well? because he's gone and a requested for serbian police to be stationed in northern kosovo. he knows that that's not going to happen, but it's only going to explain your situation. it ok,
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is it lisa? this is very simple. who started the issue with car plates and this is not, that is not even sentence what our friend from christine up a he a say a said nothing in bristol piece of court state about id or corporate. so it is christina, initiate. it is provocative language, but i don't want to blame no one. i want, as i said, let's talk, let's agree. let's come down situation. let's not call each other us russia, whatever proxies. let's talk and find out solutions in i think we doubt this even utopian union recognize even as a special envoy of united states, a dead deal. god do. i think he also recognized the priest in a deed something that it should not. that's why there is a pressure on christina not to not to boys fully a decision on how to play and said throughout that without consultation without any
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real agreement and set them out to you. except that it is pretty difficult for some 50000 ethnic said to live in cost of a given the history. i've lived my life in kosovo, according to the time when it was refugee as a teenager. and i was made the refugee because of us are going aggression against possible. and i've been living here close, also been neighbors for many years. we have the association with us of close look what closely with our 2nd colleagues are not normally wanted. what other parts of course was, was one pacifically boundaries in 2008 according to an artist, sorry, plan which was the mediator. because when syria, it took obligation to respect minority rights, sydney languages are not as a language in kosovo. even though just for some of the lesson is a repetitive fights. i have been lately guarded. i've been all of this year's gone nato, by nato troops. i know a lot of what to do generally,
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not just for sort of what everyone living in possible when it comes to economic dollars. but i think this not accepting the reality, which is the coastal ways in states makes it harder for, for service to live. there think with balance rates, the fact that these are ruled here by political part 2, which means 9 to 6 percent of the boat and which is directed with mr. sort of yeah, which is the country that didn't align. it's warren policy with, with you when it comes to russia, it makes it difficult to integrating. and david, do you think those ethics, i think cost about being let down by serbian leaders in belgrade. more than that down there being manipulated their cannon fodder in a broader conflict. that's remember that mr. richards was melissa, which is chief propaganda. and he's now continuing them. a lot of agenda to
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establish a greater serbia. i see is in control of territory were served live today, especially with european integration. this is increasingly less important. what's important is international standards. a bill of rights, minority rights cassava is a, an example of a country which has fully embraced minority rights protections and promotions or its ethnic serbs. citizens, instead of trying to upset relations of serbia, should withdraw these barricades, kosovo serbs should find ways of interacting with their counterparts, kosovo, albanians, i'm proud of my family of sponsored a library and metro visa, where castillo serves and cost for bands can come together and meet and cooperate, my teenage daughters were involved in that project. there's no reason why people
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can't get along unless they're manipulated by external forces. now okay, what will it take for the leaders in belgrade facade be at to recognize cost as an independent nation agreement to 1st the whole castle was never independent. it's a sewer in part of sir, a sort of be entered, he tory and it's not on the russia, but also china locking in many european countries like spain, romania, a, cyprus, greece. they normally recognize coastal independence of the doubts, but your agreement it's silvia. so if he talk, if he talk about background and politicians so he can talk about, i didn't demantzy who was a speech or the father of, i've been put t in ogden. the much is the russian spy. he passed away. he was spiritually father of. i'd been good, so if he talk about the background in past, if you not bring us nowhere, so of the lane labord, they ain't saying what feelings and he got to morrow thing. finally,
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with good authority because of these bodies funding that distinguished became from he was ok, will never, never believe that will. i thought annoying making, i think of what kinds of bus darker what this year, what needs to happen for a final agreement to occur between kosovo and serbia because that's the only solution that is going to work here that's going to end 20 years of conflict. so at least in a has to feel full international obligations. that means create creation of a society of sylvia when you see and that's it. and phillips, we had a tournament of ice dead, serbian minister palatez, and northern casa i, it is not cosello's causal. association of so being municipalities, it is an agreement that was signed back in 2013 by car. so and so van russel,
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but in 2016, there was a new agreement as well. it was taken at the constitutional court. so, because the agreement says that it should have the opinion of the constitution court, the constitutional court decided the 23 of the articles or of some 27 go against the constitution. but because of course, it said it should be created. so all this year for the discussion here was how should be graded? not to be something similar to him because of scott in our invoice. yeah. which would make also a dysfunctional state. so that the discussion are every one knows here. laura, inconceivable that we have to do a good price possible has to go compromise in order to spinal a set of yeah, it would mean, given the greater alton to me, to customer service even greater than the one that is what i did with the i decided records, which was the basis of course, of declaring independence in 2008 in close coordination with the democratic world.
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meaning u. s. r, u k, a, germany and david. what's that? so actually being token to try to reach this final agreement is lasting. solution is the, if you ask me, ok, all these countries, are they involved enough in making that happen? no, they're not involved enough. and the architecture of mediation it puts you from the center is flawed. there will be no deal between serbia and casa, unless the us is a co chair and leading the negotiations, a set of deferring to the u, the u. s. has to step up and it needs to make its position is clear. it's not some heads together. so we can get to a deal and let me just say a word about the association of serbian municipalities. it was agreed, it should be implemented. but in this case, there should be symmetry and reciprocity in serbia. and the per shabba valley where you have albanian municipalities. it too should have extensive autonomy and
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cultural and political rights. the only way we're going to get to an agreement is if we see all sides compared to accommodate the demands of our citizens and move forward with the democratic and rights package. absolutely. ok. well that i'm afraid our time is up. i'm sure we will be revisiting this topic again to see the discussion moving forward. thank you very much today to all our guests for joining us, jim. all right, john talk, i tried front of it and david l. phillips and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting a website that's out there a dot com. and to further discussion do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. it was a join. the conversation on twitter handle is at a j inside story from me laura kyle and the whole team here it's bye for now.
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