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ah tensions between serbia and kosovo intensify triggered by a dispute over car license plates. it's led to roadblocks aren't attacked and delayed local elections. what's the bigger issue at play here and can the 2 sides find a way, ford? this is inside story. ah hello there and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle: what appears to be as simple to speak about car license plates has amplified
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already strained relations between serbia and kosovo. the european union is urging all parties to de escalate because of i used to be part of serbia, but ethnic albanians make up 92 percent of the 1800000 people who live there around 6 percent an ethnic serb. and they say they've been marginalized subs, began blocking border crossings on saturday of the arrest of a former policeman. he was one of $600.00 officers who resigned last month in protest against cause of those plans to ban serbian license plates. fabulous present. alexander bridget blames costs of a for provoking the situation was hold on. as i said, the 2 was not from the south. austin, one of the training. today at the meeting, we discuss what we have to do. what is important is that we appeal to albanians and to serbs will to preserve peace to calm the situation. i appeal to serbs, the northern kosovo and moto, here to be calm and not to fall for provocation. immediately. our correspondent
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audience are its reports. from belgrade serbs from course, of course north are still blocking main roads in the region using trucks, buses, and heavy machinery. in the same time, cost of police is keeping close. the 2 main border crossing between course of north in serbia, engines are very high, and the schools the northern coast of or do they are closed. here in belgrade, serbia and national security council held a crisis session. but the president of serbia, alexander voltage, declined to elaborate on the adopted steps. he said his fed serbia, demands the release of all serbs, or at the bike or civil police service block. the main road on saturday after the rest of the former sort of policeman course of police later came on their small arms firing several locations, and the stock grenade was thrown at a car of the your mission impossible. but there were no injuries reported voltage claims. the serbia seeks to the fuse tangents and underlined the cost of all serbs
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must not engage in while is against the nato troops and members of the european union mission their united states and nato asked for a strain of both parties and demanded the removal of barricades so that the belgrade in pristina can continue further work on a solution for the normalization of relations of serbia and his former province. the independence in 2008. all new origin belgrade for inside story are castillo's prime minister alan kersey accusers, serbia of trying to destabilize the region. he's asked nato to stepan. mccarthy. boom. phoebe avenue, we call once again on the nato, a peacekeeping mission and kosovo, to guarantee freedom of movement. the peacekeeping mission in kosovo is supposed to create a calm and safe environment, which also means to have freedom of movement. the blocking of public roads with
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heavy machinery by criminal gangs. that shows and police officers is not exhibited will, and should not be repeated again in the future. we are waiting no exit or kosovo, declared independence from serbia in 2008, 10 years after a war killed at least, 13000 people, the u. f. and major e u countries recognized customers break away, but serbia refuses to do so. cost of a membership of the u. n. is blocked by serbia's ally, russia. around 4000 nato. peacekeepers remain on the ground and their lines intervene to end the conflict in 1999. a you began sponsoring talks between the 2 sides in 2013, but they've made a little progress. resolve in the conflict is one of the main conditions for both countries to join the block. ah, well let's bring in our guests to day. and joining us from christina is jamal ridge, our chairman of the board of association of journalists,
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of kosovo. in belgrade. we have dark ho, try front of edge, director of the institute for national and international security and in new york, david l. phillips, director of the program on peace building and rights at columbia university of a warm welcome to all of you. a to my let's start with what's been happening in northern costs of over a lot of tension that's being building up. what's the situation at the moment? thank you for having me. laura. as we speak, dave serves have barricaded that role that leads to, to cross borders between cross border between postal service and they have set up down some mandate is day off at school. so hundreds of local serves have overnight dance as well. you know, just to protect the rest of the police officer who coastal government says it's responsible for an attack of happened during the weekend at the offices off
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a local election committee which was daily and everything for me to talk to tom better actions in better or not of course, we do a lot of search the situation is about and we call but had to subscribe to the party when we spoke. and i know today i'm not going to was visiting the, the side of the barricade, and he said that the local supply rather to stay there as long as it takes until this when we pull this up so that it's released. he's one of author unknown because of the blocking of the roles. he wasn't able to be brought to the station in rita by police. so he's being, however, for $40.00 now. at the border. ok,
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a doctor called the cost of a prime minister. it's on a pretty fed up with a situation as saying that the once they tow peacekeeping, they can lead peacekeeping forces to remove the barricade subs have set out. but how is that, like you to further exacerbate the situation? well, i didn't, could that did feel just to increase the l. a level of wayland, but let's come back to the origin of the, of the problem 8. so basically diesel bristle apiece accord and the refusal of her i'll thought it is interesting or to implement a sweet schooler, a society of the serbian municipality. so that is the corner of the, of the problem. and i hope that we will had a more diplomacy in the future. and you can see now the consequence of the luck of international community, particularly european union negotiators to bring 2 sites from the table. and to clearly said to clearly stated who actually did not feel full bristle
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a piece of court and then didn't have much more clear situation. obviously, every once living in a balcony, a meter feast, we need prosperity. we need the integration scenario and everything. and the most of difficult efficient arise when we don't know each other is kind of the connections between bellville and christian academics, i scientific and many other connections that are breaking up and we hope in the future that we can have a better situation there. ok, are you bronze out as the discussion quite significantly there, but before we do get to those bigger, broad brush issues. darker, what is the situation exactly right now, why i serve ethnic serbs in northern cost of i so unhappy because her christine did not implement fully bristol piece of code and christian or did not to organize and allow the society of serbian municipality. and the, the sanger international a contract, but they said these are not allowed by christie too soon. of course, a lot. and this is a very good,
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problematic because international obligations is about any national. so over you see there is a but a so far from the syrian site that is exactly what i learned from our, our serbian tells you in the northern, not in costa, with that there is no a society of serbian communities that mr. could t and a government in pristine or will not do duties for that is the main reasons for revelation and protest. ok a david, do you agree with that? you know, a man who has under missouri bids so ah, let's see what the cost on the side of it. and if i cancel the latest to some sort of begun are in the september 1 possible government decided that they had to swish from what because of the government deems illegal car plate which are issued by serbia. and we have to have new license plate which are issued by offer. this is christina,
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it was obviously crossover isn't in the balance it with its borders and everyone living here and claims should have the same car to place all this car place. people in northern, of kosovo, were using for this 23 years of were, were issued by annual service time regime. actually they are, they are the names. of course it is like come up for me to visa, put a full machine on doors and are a sign of a severe ruse in cost of during the night. so it was a greeting process as well, but process, so be i didn't and didn't want to implement as part of the agreement, including the i d. 's. oh, also a service have to have lived there in my dues, which ought of kosovo issued by casa la 30. so a deal was reached because every time in kosovo been in grocery or you would have a special sheet of paper in which i would say that they don't recognize kosovo. so you could only enter instead of be over here. so course of
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a wanted to do the same for sylvia. mr. is coming to crossover by the way, agreed that no part will know stage sheet of paper. but then the car place was something that sets of poles. they don't want to have the car with kosovo state, of course of the size. so it manner to kosovo. kind of a government saying that they will issue fines that will confiscate the cars. but then also international pressure, kosovo gave up, and it will spawn in. definitely to loose are still able to have those are those cars? ok, and then all, now just a we've got the nicest place issue and i want to get an idea from david, what the situation really is that because at the end of november there was an agreement that you guys came together and formed an agreement over that so just give us an, an update from the outside perspective as to where we are actually at with this license plate issue. but the discussion about the
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a s. m is shake news sir. kosovo is a model of minority rights through its constitution by adopting the art of sorry, principles during negotiations. what's happening here is that serbia is looking to provoke a confrontation and it's not acting on its own serbia, as acting as a proxy of russia or by involving nato in the dispute. it's trying to broaden the conflict. we need to understand this and broader geopolitical terms, are the sofa is an ally of the west. it would not exist without nader's, military intervention. or russia wants to cancel that and to create a new fraud and its confrontation with nato and metro visa as a convenient spot for escalated intentions. it's important that we step back,
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that we take a deep breath, and we recognize that crossover is sovereign and independent. its been recognized by more than a 100 countries, serbia needs to accept the fact that at loss because so because of its crimes. ok. and it's never going back under serbia's control. ok if we can just take, okay, i'll give you a 2nd and i just want to just put this tell you a visual. assume because e a r l was pretty angry with the cost of an prime minister for raising this issue, given that it is so sensitive, he was angry with him that he raised it at this time and cause these tensions. why did kosovo insist on causing these tensions? ok, it's about sovereignty in control. it's really not about license plates. serbia has consistently rejected or stonewall all the agreements that were reached through the brussels dialogue. it wants to undermine the state building project in kosovo, and it wants to give the united states
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a black guy because the u. s. is the primary backer of crossovers. independence, so let's not make a mistake and focus on license plates or diplomas or area codes. this is a geopolitical struggle with serbia acting as russia agent. kind of trying to duncan, i think he went to when you told me that this is a geopolitical struggle, that this issue is about something much bigger than license plates. but do you accept that sab, as rush it back, saying as a, as a proxy for russia? yeah, but 1st of all, this kind of the, there is a, this kind of rhetorics will not bring us to this. we need the situation to come down. and if we use this as an argument, the serbia is a proxy of russia then and that way cost, so its proxy of united states. so what we do have war, i disagree completely with this. and of course there is nothing in bristol, the support are regarding ideas and carpets. everything started with government.
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you please do not erase this issue. we doubt finalizing when you see quality of serbian so, so it's called society of sort of your municipality. so i ask you, please come down, we need diplomacy. we don't need to do a colleagues from nice piece and cetera, et cetera, because that will not bring us nowhere what we need. now it's more european union presidents negotiations and let's put 2 sites on the table. now let's agreed, who did not, or who feel full, but it russell's piece of course, or we look at the minute below. the problem is, does the serbian president agree with you? i mean, is he following that advice as well because he's gone and a request for serbian police to be stationed in northern kosovo. he knows that that's not going to happen, but it's only going to inflate your situation. it ok,
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is it lisa? this is very simple. who started the issue with car plates and this is not, that is not even sentence what our friend from police dinner a he a say a said nothing in bristol piece of court state about id or curriculum. so it is christina, initiate it is provocative language, but i don't want to blame no one. i want, as i said, let's talk, let's agree, let's come down situation, let's not call each other us russia, whatever proxies. let's talk and find out solutions in i think we doubt this even utopian union recognize even as a special envoy of united states, a deb delgado. i think that he also recognized that christine a did something that it should not. that's why there is a pressure on christina not to not to pause fully a decision on how to pledge and said throughout that without consultation without
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any real agreement and set them out to you. except that it is pretty difficult for some 50000 ethnic said to live in cost of a given the history. i've lived my life in kosovo, according to the time when i was refugee as a teenager. and i was made a refugee because of us are going aggression against coastal and i've been living here close all of your neighbors. for many years we have the association with us of kosovo. what closely with our son and colleagues are not a customer. what other parts of course was, was one pacifically boundaries in 2008 according to an artist, sorry, plan which was the mediator because the one sort of yeah, it took obligation to respect minority rights. sydney languages are not as a language in kosovo. a level just for some of the lesson is a repetitive fights. i have been lately guarded. i've been all of this year's gone nato and by nato troops. i know that it's
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a lot of work to do generally not just about what everyone living in kosovo when comes to. i kind of man dollars. i thing this not accepting the reality, which is that close always and abandoned states makes it harder for service to live everything with belgrade. the fact that these are ruled here by a bar to was 96 percent of the vote, and it was a direct link with mister bush instead of react, which is dongle controverted didn't align, is foreign policy with, with you when it comes to russia, it makes it difficult to atlanta integrating costs. and david, do you think those ethics, i think cost of a being let down by serbian leaders in belgrade. more than that down there being manipulated on their cannon fodder in a broader conflict. that's remember that mr. brewer church was milosevic his chief propaganda and he's now continuing the milosevic agenda to establish
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a greater serbia. i seize in control of territories where serbs live today, especially with european integration. this is increasingly less important. what's important is international standards. a bill of rights, minority rights cassava is a, an example of a country which has fully embraced minority rights protections and promotions, or it's ethnic serbs. citizens, instead of trying to upset relations of serbia should withdraw these barricades. customer service should find ways of interacting with their counterparts, kosovo, albanians. i'm proud of my family and sponsored a library and metro rates where customers serves in cost for our bands can come together and meet and cooperate. my teenage daughters were involved in that project . there's no reason why people can't get along unless they're manipulated by
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external forces. dock, how, what will it take for the leaders in belgrade for sabby at to recognize kosovo as an independent nation agreement to 1st of all casa was never independent. it's a sewell in part of sir, a sort of been $3030.00 and it's not on the russia, but also china locking in many european countries like spain. ramona, a site growth gleese. they don't recognize coastal independence of the dots. but your agreement to be sort of via so if you talk, if you talk about background on politicians, so we can talk about i didn't demantzy who was a speech or the father of i've been put t and i didn't do much e d, russian spy. he passivate, he was spiritually father of i'd been good. so if he talk about the background in past, if you're not bring us nowhere. so up at a low voice, they ain't saying what, you know, anything about the moral thing. i mean,
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i'm fine with good authority because of these bodies funding, but distinguished because from he was ok, will never, never believe that. well, i thought annoying. i think of what kinds of bus dhaka want this year. what needs to happen for a final agreement to occur between kosovo and sat there because that's the only solution that is going to work here that's going to end 20 years of conflict. so at least, tina has to feel full international obligations. that means create creation of a society of serbia, money, c panel. and that's it. and phillips we have out on amazon mice. they're serbian mess, palatez and northern cost of it. yet it is not co society, it's called association of serbian municipalities. it is an agreement that was signed back in 2030 by casa and soviet russel's. but in 2016, there was
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a new agreement as well. it was taken at the constitutional court. so, because the agreement says that it should have the opinion of because of course, the constitutional court decided the 23 of the articles or of some 27 go against the constitution. but because of course, it said it should be created. so all this year for the discussion here was how should be created, not to be something similar to him because of scott in our invoice here, which would make also a dysfunctional state. so that the discussion are every one knows here laura, impossible that we have to do it right? classical has to go compromise in order to dismantle a beer. it would mean, given the greater autonomy to cause of a search even greater than the one that is what i did with the arctic records, which was the basis of course, of declaring independence in 2008 in close coordination with the democratic world.
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meaning u. s. r, u k, a, germany and david, what's that? so actually being taken to try to reach this final agreement. this last thing solution is the, if you ask me, ok all these countries and they involved enough in making that happen. no, they're not involved in us. and the architecture of mediation, it puts you from the center is floor there will be no deal between serbia and cost . so unless the us is a co chair and leading the negotiations as set of deferring to the u, the u. s has to step up and it needs to make its position is clear. it's to knock some heads together so we can get to a deal. and let me just say a word about the association of serbian municipalities. it was agreed, it should be implemented. but in this case, there should be symmetry and reciprocity in serbia and the per shabba valley where you have albanian municipalities. it too should have extensive autonomy and
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cultural and political rights. the only way we're going to get to an agreement is if we see all sides compared to accommodate the demands of, of citizens and move forward with the democratic and rights package. absolutely. ok . well that i'm afraid our time is up. i'm sure we will be revised to this topic again to see the discussion moving forward. thank you very much today to all our guests for joining us, jim. all right, john talk. i tried fun of it and david l. phillips and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting a web site that's al jazeera dot com. and to further discussion to go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. it also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a inside story from me laura kyle: i'm the whole team here. it's bye for now.
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