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protest is shot dead on the street by truce. the former president in prison and a state of emergency, declared louis facing a political crisis. what does it mean for its people? and how will the growing instability en this is inside story? ah, hello, welcome to the program and hasn't since the arrest and jailing a perused. former president pedro castillo more than a week. does. violence has spread across the country with troops shooting dead.

some of his supporters to ministers have resigned. the government has declared a state of emergency and curfews have been imposed in 15 regions. in a few moments we'll be discussing the situation with our guests. but 1st, this report from marianna sanchez in lima soldiers preventing protesters then taking over an airport using deadly force. several people were killed on thursday and more than 50 wounded in the southern and the city of via gucho, human rights groups say, soldiers shot at demonstrators with live rounds. oh, there are on, there were people were walking with stones or other objects in their hands, but they were only stones or as fine, and in response. soldiers shot them. this is extra judicial killings. this is murder. the army says the soldiers came under attack and responded. the conflict is escalating, producing a state of emergency. the ministers of education and culture have resigned and

protesters are demanding new elections. water by malaria, go get it. but on friday, lawmakers failed to reach 87 volts needed to bring the elections forward. the protesters main demand, the mayor of i echo is angry. oh, good luck won't. but immediately, we cannot allow the congress to be out of tune with its own population in the midst of a crisis where we are bleeding to death and the capital. lima has been fortified and thousands of police have been deployed. not all the protesters have been violent on friday, police didn't fight these demonstrators, instead escorted them as they marched peacefully after 9 days of social unrest, while the mendoza remembers how his indigenous eye shenika community suffered during the armed conflict more than 30 years ago. on friday he marched for peace of what we are here because our, our shenika brothers died and now we don't what violence oh,

room to see. they're fed up with a violin. not only from now, i'm a history of an armed conflict in the eighty's and ninety's. i've left more than 50000 said that what is known as i say they want these now. i quote was one of the 15 regions under curfew. it was at the center of the violence during the and again now president dina will not be has called and governors and church leaders to join government officials and begin dialogue with leaders of the most conflicted areas. but below, the has also said she supports the police and the armed forces. medina sank to sell to see that lima biddle approved had a string of high level corruption scandals. and 6 presidents says 2016. so who is castillo, and why is he in conflict with congress? the former farmer teacher and union leader from rural peru came to office promising

a fair economic system and an end to the high rates of poverty. castillo and members of his family are the subject of 6 corruption investigations. he has denied any wrong doing, since he was elected in july 2021. castillo faced 3 impeachment, both the 1st, less than 6 months, into his term on the server. the 7th castillo. try to dissolve congress and rule by decree. instead, the legislature voted to remove him, accusing him of trying to stage a coup. ah, well, let's bring it, i guess. now talk more about this. paula guys is an investigative journalist. she joins us via skype now from lima in our london studio. we have have a pot, hey, a peru, analyst and historian, and joe marie, but joins us from washington, dc. she is associate professor of political science and latin american studies at

george mason university. a very warm welcome to all of you. so let me start with you beyond the constitutional issues. what is the root of all of these problems, and why have people so many people come out into the streets in support of castillo, in middle people are angry with a point patient at all. since 2016, we have 6 presidents and you said, and if, because a 2 crisis in, in one, the 1st is a corruption, it because all the express in from 2001 until 2020, we're investigated by level hospital by to receive bright from other resilient company, and they don't want to be in jail the, the one to b,

b, i in front of the just these. so they bush in the congress. a lot of a lot of power to, to take out the president that was in the moment a bit about which is key. and then with that, with that, and then the to start all these war a, in where the beach and are disconnected from the people are now it is really now that they are a b chance are a, are disconnected from the, from the people. because they don't understand that they don't want it, they don't, they want a new election. they don't want to see the people in the congressman doing that. they always do personal affairs. and in the beginning the, you know, a lot of it, the president key has made a daniels aligns with armed forces to remain in power. she

has a den 98 years in a breast then. and we have ha, 2022 people is dead and is married in in and 4, but who that president it is. it continues to empower not a body ray or a neighbor or to develop her that she's wrong. it is when, when we talk in the right now she's talking, she's doing now press conference and she says that she, she will continue, you will remain in power. and she has her. she was lead a come by and by the army. and he said really than yours, dad, because i seen is really similar situation that happened in bolivia when janet on yes. do the same scene. and she was a, with a, with the, our forces to, to remain in power. and i s t,

these did who we are. and i really, really, really dark situation from been abbey as far, hey, how do you see the situation that's playing out in peru right now and do you fear a return to a. busy more bleak past in the country's history. yes, i agree, and the title would powell, i will, i to what to what she has said is that we're talking about the grievances which god bait back long before mr. castillo was even a candidate. these are all grievances at people in the countryside, in this particular case. now your culture, i've had many, if we mustn't forget that are your culture, what the center of the activities of the shining past. that cold like maoist rebel movement in that which in the one thing 8 is a started a war against waste, a war against the peruvian state with dire consequences for the peruvian society. and they said hello, he all, he stores neglect, and i would say that the unger is right now concentrated on congress,

president bowler, it just, not long before we went on air to do this. program gave a speech where she accused congress of not fulfilling that commandment by not approving early elections. there initial proposal for april 2024. moved back to december 2023. and they rejected these for different reasons. some people from the left or some people from the right rejected on board and against these and does want to exhaust obey dissipation in peru. in the case of, for example, your question you mentioned earlier today in your report or color who are, who is the regional governor for your coach on yes, a look, lima doesn't seem to care about what's going on here. the room. yes. a di here and they don't seem to do anything about that. and i use big congress to do something about this. and in this piece that are pretty similar to gate, not long ago, just before we started talking, she accused a congress of not fulfilling the commitment i. she appeal to the community just in the contest beginning keisha, which is the language that in my you already of indigenous people speak and the audience region of peru. so he's appealing to the grass roots to say look,

is probably violence. many of these violence is perpetrated by and organized groups, nothing to do with the situation, improve, please stop this. i want to talk to you. i want to start solving the problem. of course you will have time to sort of oldest bonus in the time the remains of her monday because we expect that there elijah, would be call now the, the speaker of congress. her willis has said that they are going to extend the cover legislature in order to be able to debate this issue of the election. now the court is very much in the tory their ball. he's very much in the court of the peruvian congress, but it's in will, after has said that an 83 percent off people according to a reliable opinion policy that we want the election. so that's where the beginning of trying to find some way to come to situation improve would be in congress boating for early elation because that's where my years of people want improve only what decision is going to escalate and we have to be worried about, but will happen, some come, has been restored by the price of being very high. i mean, the army and it in the,

in, in the streets and sort of doing police work, it more sanctioned, a peruvian see if you know, kindly because of all experiences in our history. so in that respect, the see to who could get worse, but congress could stop helping solve this problem by voting for early election. in december 2023 around saga problems, which i said they, but what boy about be focused here, but he could start, it could be able to start. let's get joe murray. bird said take on. they said were wet. does the current president deena a bolo, artie? fit into this she, she's now the president as the results of a pedro castillo being, being pinched and removed from office. she, she has to kind of tread carefully here, dad, doesn't she? i h a r early elections. the solution to this? oh, i think early elections are the only solution to this. 85 percent of peruvians have said consistently that they want new elections and that's not a new demand for months. peruvians have been demanding for the frame is in spanish

because have i and those everyone leave everyone out. they wanted new elections for the president and for the congress. now that president has to, you has been removed from office. the demand for a new new elections has grown even stronger. so i think that is front and center. so to as are your other guess, have noted president below, aren't they this morning? pressed congress to vote in favor of convening new elections after yesterday's vote in which then they could not agree on this platform. but it's a little bit like asking the fox to take care of the hands. right. the congress is the central problem in peru today. ok, and so it, it becomes a real problem asking this congress run by which is dominated by the coalition of extreme right wing movements to do this. and it is also curious to note

that in yesterday's boat, the fuji maury block loaded entirely in favor of convening early elections, which has led some folks to speculate some kind of alliance between a blue, aren't they? and the faruqi maurice does. so it's unclear to me what this means, but i think that the 1st thing we might say about that is that the full, he modi's does think that if there are new elections than their candidate cake of would you maury, the daughter, a former dictator alberto could you maury, who was currently in prison for human rights violations, and corruption would be well poised to win. so there is an incredible amount at stake here dina molar. the could also result fine and that will if i not, if i'm not misunderstood, that i would like apollo as to correct me if i'm wrong. but i think that she resigned. it would automatically trigger early elections without the reforms that i

think a lot of people believe are necessary, but it would at least break the deadlock that the current congress has on the situation in the congress has behaved in ways that are absolutely abysmal from, from the very beginning of the paper castillo government, this congress, the especially the right, when groups has denied the legitimacy of the castillo government, they claim that he actually lost the elections, which he won, though, by a slim margin, saying that there had been fraud. they tried to go to the only asked a man at the oas, recognized from it. they never demonstrated with any proof that there was fraud, but they continued to maintain this discourse. they've tried repeatedly to have president castillo removed from our office using this very vague clause in the constitution are called moral incapacity, which they've interpreted as they see fit. and they've saw other mechanisms to get him removed from office. and they have been kind of pressing down on him from the very beginning to limit his government to obstruct his government. and now that

he's gone on, they find me feel that they are the victors and they have the that the world. is there oyster? so to speak. so this is really where the problem lies. and the question is, i mean with today's announcement, i sort of expected to hear the normal aren't they resigned this morning when i heard she was going to speak, given that there as are your other guests have noted 21 people have been killed in the past 10 days in st, in protests by police, most by police bullets. and that is a huge number of people in what are mostly peaceful manner manifestations being killed as a result of let's put some of that back to our palo who goes then what will, what, what do you think the current president, dina, go to what they need to do here, to, to, to calm the situation. well, a lot of people, i respect, you know, they say that to force on natalie to resign and to force on every election

a with because a, the situation in blue is really and she can, you can go, you can see beyond is what happened in all the country she says she wants to, to have a dangerous alliance with the army forces because is the only the only way to she says the boon would shoot, you saw to remain the power. and now she doesn't, she doesn't sink for the country for the good of the country to. she's the only think because she was to continue to repress it in. and it's really self for her to do that in a country where the, where the people wants to everybody go. and with it, the, you know, when are they should force an early election with her meet, you need it,

immediate resignation. we as we are expected in the night, or in the morning of today, if she does, she will resign. but she didn't until and andrea today that she appeared in between with the army with a cheese of their me, with the chief of the body of the, of the police. and he wants to not recognize or did it 23 people died in blue with a list by police violence. this is really, really are contrary to the human rights policy for any country in latin america. and in biddle, we did it as c d 's gain of blindness for leader scenes. a lot of them my low of and we have teacher, i sued since 2016. so cindy, no longer now she grows the 9. have you have a far, hey,

i want to put this to you because it has been argued not just by peter castillo critics. that many of his problems were, was self inflicted. that he, he changed his cabinet members about 80 times in the 17 months that he was in power of a very chaotic administration. and there is also the undeniable fact that he tried to dissolve congress and ruled by decree. and his critics will say, this is why he was impeached and removed from office, and this is why he is currently in detention. what do you say to that? well, basically, difficult municipal factors. it is true that there was a great deal of incompetence for mr. castillo. gov, him, but the same time there congress put obstacles to every single a point that he made for his cabinet. the congress impeach minister after minister after minister he had to came in to sometime on a weekly basis. it was an absolutely absurd situation with congress. would not let mister gusty, your rule, the country. i mean,

i have lost count or how many ministers he lost because congress impeached them, or congress put pressure on him. and to change minister is very difficult to rule account of where you can't have a stable executive where the stable a cabinet are the same time he showed a great deal of incompetence may be because of the lack of lack of experience. whatever the reason he is, the fact of the matter is that he was pretty competent. many of their promises i keep wanted to fulfill what not fulfilled, especially for the countries people in the countryside, in the provinces. and that contributed to the situation case of their, of the accusations of corruption, people in the here in a circle where accused i been accused of a legit cases of corrosion by the attorney general could trying to gloat on parliament their congress was a political suicide. i, when the judge used to fight their request made by prosecutors to put him behind, bus white teen moth basically told the big items where the one that when he made the announcement that he wanted to close congress, he had contacted

a head of the armed forces on the police before the head of the national police to go physically cause congress and to arrest that then attorney. they are the attorney general, which was something that is considered illegal. but also there was danger that he would feed a county because mexico had offer to keep him a political asylum. doctor, the reason apartment, when you're the result a where read a throughout to our sofa. something convoluted, sort of reasoning are not to put him behind by for 18 months to build up a case against him. so he would, there was a combination of incompetence, but also was it. it was also the, the job that the congress did to me that he did not work because in my years of people were against him. and that is, this is one of that which was happening. note, while the result of that, of that period of talk on the stability to improve a january. but if we broaden this out a little bit and talk about the implications that this has beyond cruise borders. how, how is this dividing the rest of of latin america?

well, before i answer that question, may i just say one thing about to follow up on your, your prior guests comment? i, i think it's important to know that for a vast majority of peruvians who are poor from rural areas or live in for urban communities, destine represented something quite unique, right? the 1st time that someone from their social group, i had ever been elected to the presidency. and i think one reason you see so many people coming out in defense of him, i mean that all the protest are demanding his release and returned to the presidency. to be sure, but many people are because they feel they voted for castillo. they believed in his promises for change, for real political and economic change in a country where political and economic exclusion for these majorities has been you know, quite a bit more. so i think that is something that is often overlooked from

a perspective of, you know, looking at things from lima. i think that is really important to keep in mind. and the not only was congress and other politicians obstructionist as was one of your guests was saying, visa v, a president asked if they were openly racist, and in and disdainful toward him because he was the moral areas because of the way he spoke. spanish and clinton, he was an educator in, in ohio, incapable and so forth. and, and, and a lot of people took effect and set that. so this, i think his fueled khaki indignation around the way he was treated. but if i could go to my original question about the wider implications of this beyond the, on peru. yeah, i mean, i think you've seen with, with that there was a statement put out by columbia, argentina, mexico, in bolivia, for standing behind prison castillo. and in a and that he is still the you know,

elected president of peru and demanding that he be returned to office and so forth . and also demanding, you know, that he be treated with due process. i absolutely think it's important that he be treated with due process, and there is some, there are some questions about this, as one of your guys said a moment ago, but to deny that president castillo tried to carry out a clue not only in which he tried to shut down, congress, intervene in the judiciary and rule by decree, wright one cannot deny that reality. and they've tried to explain that way very ever. why really? of theory. he was drawn, he's been kidnapped, he was confused. he was betrayed. now, et cetera. we all saw on television. president castillo announced his a bit, which ultimately failed because he did not have the support for his actions, which were in effect, unconstitutional. so the, it's not surprising, i suppose,

to see some of the latin american left wing governments rise up in support of castillo. but part of their comments are absolutely inaccurate. all right, we're going to have to leave it there and we will certainly be following up how all of this plays out and we appreciate all of you putting this in perspective for us are paula who does have a fun, hey, and joe marie, but thanks so much for being on inside story and thank you. as always, to watching rama you can see the program again any time just go to a website. i just it a dot com. and for more discussion as our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside store, you can also join the conversation on twitter handle there. is that a inside story for me? hasn't we can all team year, bye for now. oh,

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