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not just because of the materials that they use, but because of in part of its entire design, a static organizes hope that projects like this one will ensure that the middle east bus will come will be remembered for more than just a full week football tournament. amazing though that was and it will leave a legacy in countries that desperately need help. ah. a picture of the headlines here this out on his he has main opposition coalition, says president chi psi it should resign. after may a 9 percent turn out during saturday's parliamentary election, it was the 1st pole since i had brought in a new constitution, which gave him sweeping new palace. internationally acclaimed iranian actress, tanami ali duty has been arrested falling as social media post and supportive anti government protests has been ongoing. falling the death of masa media in police custody in september, the star of the oscar winning movie, the salesman dahlia,
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called on the international community to intervene. fallen execution of a young protest peruse new president is urging congress to bring forward general elections. it's a key demand of the supporters of the detain. formerly the federal castillo, at least 20 people have been killed and unrest since he was removed from office of zeros. john homer reports from peruse capital lima. gina proxy was taken over. she was the vice president pedro castillo. she sits taken over the president say about the fact that she's there at home. she think that they think that she's to train them on her side. she's pulled for fresh elections. he's tried to set a date for fresh elections in december of 2023 and the peruvian home, which these people, many of the senior class was incredibly low approved. right. i think it is more than a good day back to the gang since rush election, some false. you good. what a bulletin situation in this country power has been restored in parts of ukraine
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after russian missile attacks on energy facilities plunged millions of people into darkness. ukrainians have been struggling with rolling blackouts and water shortages, as temperatures dropped below 0. moscow says friday's high position strikes also aimed at disrupting the the delivery of foreign weapons. south africa is governing african national congress. the agency will elect its leadership on sunday. delegates of gathered for the vote in johannesburg. president, sir, rama porter is running for reelection as the parties leader protest is disrupted his opening speech on friday. he's come under fire recently. often independent panel found he may have violated his of, of office and pressure one, the 3rd place playoff at the world cup and cattle beating morocco to one. now lies on france and argentina for some days. finally, those were the headlines. the news continues here now to 0 after inside story station. thanks so much bye for
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aah! protest is shot dead on the street by truce. the former president in prison and a state of emergency declared louis facing a political crisis. what does it mean for its people, and how will the growing instability en this is inside story? ah? hello, welcome to the program and hasn't secret since the arresting jailing of peruse. former president pedro castillo more than a week does. violence has spread across the country with troops shooting dead. some
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of his supporters to ministers have resigned that the government has declared a state of emergency and curfews had been imposed in 15 regions. in a few moments, we'll be discussing the situation with our guests. but 1st, this report from marianna sanchez in lima soldiers preventing protesters then taking over an airport using deadly force. several people were killed on thursday and more than 50 wounded in the southern and the city of i echo till human rights groups say soldiers shot at demonstrators with live rounds. oh, that we narrow on our people were walking with stones or other objects in their hands, but they were only stones are as fine and in response soldiers shut them. this is extrajudicial killings, this is murder. the army says the soldiers came under attack and responded. the conflict is escalating, producing
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a state of emergency. the ministers of education and culture half resigned. and protesters are demanding new elections. water by malaria, go gary. but on friday, lawmakers failed to reach 87 volts needed to bring the elections forward. the protesters main demand, the mayor of agriculture is angry or not wont, but immediately. we cannot allow the congress to be out of tune with its own population in the midst of a crisis where we are bleeding to death of the capital. lima has been fortified and thousands of police have been deployed. not all. the protesters have been violent on friday, police didn't fight these demonstrators, instead escorted them as they marched peacefully after 9 days of social unrest. while that mendoza remembers how his indigenous ash i knew the community suffered during the armed conflict more than 30 years ago. on friday he marched for peace of
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where we are here because our, our shenika brothers died and now we don't what violence owe them to see. they're fed up with a violin, not only from now, from a history of an i'm hungry, denise, a lady that live more than 60000 said. that's why he's been here the say, they want these now. i, a quote was one of the 15 regents under curfew. it was at the center of the violence during the lease and again now president, dena will gladly has called and governors and church leaders to join government officials and begin dialogue with leaders of the most conflicted areas. but below, the has also said she supports the police and the armed forces. medina, thank to sell to cedar lima biddle. a peruse had a string of high level corruption scandals, and 6 presidents says 2016. so who is castillo, and why is he in conflict with congress?
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the former farmer teacher and union leader from rural peru came to office promising a fair economic system and an end to the high rates of poverty. castillo and members of his family are the subject of 6 corruption investigations. he has denied any wrong doing, since he was elected in july 2021. castillo faced 3 impeachment most the 1st, less than 6 months, into his term on the server. the 7th castillo tried to dissolve congress and ruled by decree. instead, the legislature voted to remove him, accusing him of trying to stage a coup. ah, let's bring it, i guess. now talk more about this. paola guys is an investigative journalist. she joins us via skype. now, from lima in orlando, the studio we have have a pot, hey, a peru, analyst and historian, and joe marie, but joins us from washington, dc. she is associate professor of political science and latin american studies at
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george mason university. a very warm welcome to all of you. so paula, let me start with you beyond the constitutional issues. what is the root of all of these problems, and why have people so many people come out into the streets in support of castillo? in middle people are angry with a point patient at all seems 2016. we have 6 president. i do said, and if, because a 2 crisis it in one, the 1st is a corruption, it because all the express in front to sell someone until 2020 we're investigating by level hospital by to receive bright front or the red resilient company. and they don't want to be in jail the, the one to b,
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b, i in front of the, just these. so they bush in the congress, a lot of a lot of power to, to take out the president that was in the moment a bit about which is key. and then with that, with that, and then the to start all these war a, in where the politician are disconnected from the people are. now a is really now that they be chance are a, are disconnected from the, from the people. because they don't understand that they don't want it, they don't, they want a new election. they don't want to see the people the congressman doing that. they always do personal affairs. and in the beginning, the never lot of it, the president key has made
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a daniels aligns with armed forces to remain in power. she has a den 98 years in a breast then and we have a 2022 people is dead and is emitted in, in and for been to that president it is. it continues to empower not a body raise her unable to develop her that she's wrong a when, when we're talking about right now, she's talking, she's doing now press conference and she says that she, she will continue. you will remain in power and she has her. she was lead a, a come by and by the army. and he said really than you as doug, because i've seen is really similar situation that happened in bolivia when janet on yes. do the same scene. and she was a, with a,
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with the armed forces to do remaining power. and i s t, these did who we are. and i really, really, really dart situation from below. i how do you see the situation that's playing out in peru right now and do you fear a return to a. busy more bleak past in the country's history. yeah, but i agree. the title would powell, i will, i to what to what she has said is that we're talking about the grievances which god, they back long before mr. castillo was even a candidate. this all grievances at people and the countryside in this particular case. now your culture, i've had many, if we mustn't forget that our yoke, which was the center of the activities of the shining path. that called like mowing or rebel movement in that which in the 1980s started a war against waste, a war against the peruvian state with dire consequences for the peruvian society. and they said, hello, he all, he stores neglect. and i would say that the anger is right now,
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concentrated on congress, president bowler, it just, not long before we went on air to do this. program gave a speech where she accused congress, i'm not fulfilling the commandment by not approving early elections there. initial proposal for april 2024, moved back to december 2023. and they rejected these 4 different resa. some people on the left or some people from the right rejected on board her against these. and us going to exacerbate the situation in peru, in the case of for example. yeah, which are you mentioned earlier today and in your report are color who are, who is the original governor for your co trunk? yes. a look. lima doesn't seem to care about what's going on here. the rubio said die here, and they don't seem to do anything about that. and i use big congress to do something about this. and in this piece that are pretty similar to the gate, not long ago, just before we started talking, she accused a congress of not fulfilling the commitment i, she appeared to the community just in the conscious i was beginning keisha, which is the language that the majority of indigenous people speak and the audience
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region of peru, so he's appealing to the grass roots to say, look, is probably violent. many of these violence is perpetrated by an organized groups. nothing to do with the situation in peru, please stop this. i want to talk to you, i want to start solving the problem. of course you will have time to sort of oldest bonus in the time the remains of her mandate because we expect that there elijah, would be call. now the, the speaker of congress. i served a hot willis has said that they are going to extend the cover legislature in order to be able to debate this issue of the election. now the court is very much in the tory. their ball is very much in the court of the peruvian congress, but it's in will act that has said that an 83 percent off people according to a reliable opinion policy that we want the election. so that's where the beginning of trying to find some way to come to situation improve would be in congress. boating for early elation because that's what my years of people want improve only what his vision is going to escalate and we have to be worried about. but what happened, some come has been restored, but the place has been very high. i mean,
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the army and that, and the in the, in the streets. and sort of doing police work is more something, the peruvian c a, you know, kindly because of all experiences in our history. so in that respect, the see to who could get worse. but congress could stop helping solve this problem by voting for early election. in december 2023. our own saga programs, which i said they, but what boy about be focused on you, but equal to start. it could be able to start. let's get jo murray, bird said take on. they said were wet. does the current president, deena apollo arts a fit into this she she is now the president as a result of a pedro castillo being, being pinched and removed from office. she, she has to kind of tread carefully here to, doesn't she, i a are early elections the solution to this? oh, i think early elections are the only solution to this. 85 percent of peruvians have said consistently that they want new elections and that's not a new demand for months. peruvians have been demanding the friends in spanish his
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have. i and those everyone leave everyone out. they wanted new elections for the president and for the congress now that president castillo has been removed from office. the demand for a new new elections has grown even stronger. so i think that is front and center. so to de, as are your other guess, have noted, president below, aren't they this morning? pressed congress to vote in favor of convening new elections after yesterday's vote in which then they could not agree on this platform. but it's a little bit like asking the fox to take care of the hands. right. the congress is the central problem in peru today. and so it, it becomes a real problem asking this congress run by which is dominated by a coalition of extreme right wing movements to do this. and it is also
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curious to note that in yesterday's vote, the fuji maury block loaded entirely in favor of convening early elections, which has led some folks to speculate some kind of alliance between boulevard bay and the faruqi. maurice does, so it's unclear to me what this means, but i think that the 1st thing we might say about that is that the full, he modi's does think that if there are new elections than their candidate cake of would. you maury, the daughter, a former dictator, alberto, could you maury who was currently in prison for human rights violations. and corruption would be well poised to win. so there is an incredible amount at stake here. dina bullard, the could also result pine and that will and if i not, if i'm not misunderstood, that i would like us to correct me if i'm wrong. but i think that if she resigned, it would automatically trigger early elections without the reforms that i think
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a lot of people believe are necessary, but it would at least break the deadlock that the current congress has on the situation in the congress has behaved in ways that are absolutely abysmal from, from the very beginning of the payroll castillo government. this congress, the especially the right, when groups has denied the legitimacy of the castillo government, they claim that he actually lost the elections, which he won, though by a slim margin, saying that there had been fraud. they tried to go to the only asked a man at the oas, recognized from it. they never demonstrated with any proof that there was fraud, but they continued to maintain this discourse. they've tried repeatedly to have president castillo removed from office using this very vague clause in the constitution are called moral in capacity, which they've interpreted as they see fit. and they've saw other mechanisms to get him removed from office. and they have been kind of pressing down on him from the
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very beginning to limit his government to obstruct his government. and now that he's gone on, they find me feel that they are the victors and they have the you know, that, that the world is there oyster so to speak. so this is really where the problem lies. and the question is, i mean with today's announcement, i sort of expected to hear the normal aren't they resigned this morning when i heard she was going to speak, given that there as are your other guests have noted 21 people have been killed in the past 10 days in st, in protests by police most by police bullets along that is a huge number of people in what are mostly peaceful manner. manifestations being killed resulted plus, put some of that back to our palo who goes then what will, what, what do you think the current present dina go to water in these to do here to, to, to come situation. well, a lot of people, i respect, you know,
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they say that to force on natalie to resign and to force on every election a with because a, the situation in blue is really and she can, you can go, you can see beyond the work happen in all the country she says she wants to, to have fun and dangerous alliance with the army forces. because is the only the only way she says the boon she saw to remain the bower. and now she doesn't, she doesn't sink for the country for the good of the country. she's only think because she was to continue to repress it in. and it's really self for her to do that in a country where the, where the people wants to everybody go. and with it, you know, when or they should force an early alicia with her meet, you need it,
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immediate resignation. we have, we are expected in the night or in the morning of today if she that she will resign. but she didn't until and are contrary to the that she appeared it in between with the army with a cheese of learn me with the chief of the bully, the of the police. and he wants to not reco nice or did it 23 people diving blue with police by police violence. this is really, really are contrary to the human rights policy for any country in latin america. and in biddle, we did it as see, these kind of blind is for leader scenes. a lot of them are low and we have to express you since 2016. so seen denotie now she grows the line. have you have a far, hey,
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i want to put this to you because it has been argued not just by peter castillo critics. that many of his problems were, were self inflicted. that he, he changed his cabinet members about 80 times in the 17 months that he was in power as of a very chaotic administration. and there is also the undeniable fact that he tried to dissolve congress and ruled by decree. and his critics will say, this is why he was impeached and removed from office. and this is why he is currently in detention. what do you say to that? well, basically this a combination of factors, it is true that there was a great deal of incompetence for mr. castillo. gov. m. but the same time there congress put obstacles to every single a point that he made for his cabinet. the congress impeach minister after minister after minister he had to came in to santas on a weekly basis. it was an absolutely absurd situation with congress. would not let
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mister gusty your rule, the country. i mean, i have lost count or how many ministers he lost because congress impeached them, or congress put pressure on him and to change minister is very difficult to rule accountable. you can't have a stable executive where the stable a cabinet are the same time he showed a great deal of incompetence may be because of the lack of lack of experience. whatever the reason he's, the fact of the matter is that he was preaching competent. many of their promises that he wanted to fulfill what not fulfilled, especially for the countries people in the county sat in the provinces and that contributed to the situation case up there. of the accusations of corruption, people in the here in a circle where accused i being accused of a legit cases of corrosion by the attorney general could trying to close down parliament. their congress was a political suicide. i. when the judge used to fight their request made by prosecutors to put him behind, bus white teen moth basically told the big items was one that when he made the announcement that he wanted to close congress, he had contacted
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a head of the armed forces on the police the, sorry, the head of the national police to go physically close congress and to arrest that then attorney. they are the attorney general, which was something that is considered illegal. but also there was danger that he will feed a county because mexico had offer to keep him a political asylum doctor, the reason i'm on when you're the research aware read a throughout to our sofa. something convoluted, sort of reasoning for not to put him behind by for 18 months to build up a case against him. so he would, there was a combination of incompetence, but also was it. it was also that the job that the congress did to me that he did not work because my years of people were against him. and that is, this is one of the which was happening. know, was the result of that, of that period of token, the stability improve january. but if we brought this out a little bit and talk about the implications that this has beyond peruse borders. how, how is this dividing the rest of latin america?
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well, before i answer that question, may i just say one thing about to follow up on your, your prior guests comment? i, i think it's important to know that for a vast majority of peruvians who are poor from rural areas or live in for urban communities, tsd represented something quite unique. right. first time that someone from their social group, i had ever been elected to the presidency. and i think one reason you see so many people coming out in defense of him, i mean that all the protest are demanding his release and returned to the presidency. to be sure, but many people are because they feel they voted for castillo. they believed in his promises for change, for real political and economic change in a country where political and economic exclusion for these majorities has been you know, quite a business. so i think that is something that is often overlooked from
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a perspective of, you know, looking at things from lima. i think that is really important to keep in mind. and the not only was congress and other politicians obstructionist as was one of your guests was saying, visa v, a, present as if they were me racist. and in and disdainful toward him because he was the moral areas because of the way he spoke. spanish and clinton, he was an educator in inner incapable and so forth. and, and, and a lot of people took effect and said that, so this, i think his fields, coca indignation around the way he was treated. but if i could go to my original question about the wider implications of this beyond the on peru. yeah, i mean, i think you've seen with, with that there was a statement put out by columbia, argentina, mexico, in bolivia for standing behind prison castillo and, and,
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and assert. and if he is still the elected president of peru and demanding that he be returned to office and so forth and also demanding, you know, that he be treated with due process. i absolutely think it's important that he be treated with due process, and there is some, there are some questions about this. as one of your guests said a moment ago, but to deny that president castillo tried to carry out a clue, not only in which he tried to shut down, congress, intervene in the judiciary and rule by decree, wright one cannot deny that reality. and they've tried to explain it away, very a very, he was drawn, he's been kidnapped, he was confused, he was betrayed, et cetera. we all saw on television. president castillo announced his a bit, which ultimately failed. because he did not have the support for his actions, which were in effect, unconstitutional. so the, it's not surprising, i suppose,
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to see some of the latin american left wing governments rise up in support of castillo. but part of their comments are absolutely inaccurate. all right, we're going to have to leave it there and we will certainly be following you how all of this plays out and we appreciate all of you putting this in perspective for us, paula who does have a thought, hey, and joe marie, but thanks so much for being on inside story and thank he was always watching rama, you can see the program again any time just go to a website. i just eat a dot com. and for more discussion there's our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha, inside store. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle there. is that a inside store for me? hasn't we can all team year, bye for now. oh,
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