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killed in the unrest. and he says, opposition is calling for the president to step down. after less than 9 percent of voters turned out for parliamentary elections, opposition parties boycotted, the polls which had the lowest turn out in more than a decade. actors and right scripts, so coding on iran to release a claim that just to run a reduce the she was arrested on saturday. she'd been calling on the international community to intervene on the execution of young protest. i so has claimed responsibility for bomb blast, which killed 9 iraqi policeman on sunday. the attack on the convoy happened to southwest on the city of cookie and thousands of people and girls that have attended the funerals of 8 palestinian migrants who drowned up to listen closely. 2 months ago, they were trying to reach you by boat from lydia. those are the headlines, more news herron al jazeera after upfront safety. what's going on in vladimir
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putin's mind right now? could this war go? nuclear is being on that front team. the golden ticket to electro victory. can americans agree on any immigration policy? is there a middle ground between 0 tolerance and open borders? the quizzical look us politics. the bottom line is somali on the brink of collapse . for decades, the fragile nation has been plagued with problems on multiple fronts. from conflict with the militant group, our back to climate change to food and water crises, the country has been caught in what seems to be an endless cycle of devastation. current president hassan, shake my mood, who was also somalis, president from 2012 to 2017, has said that he's committed to rebuilding the nation. but what does this mean for countries that still burden with conflict and humanitarian issues? and with a looming famine in the president, bring about some form of stability. i last president hasn't shaved my mood himself in upfront special. ah,
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president hassan chick mussman. thank you so much for joining us on up front. thank you. mr. president. somali is in crisis. elisha bab has continued its deadly attacks. the country is facing its worst drought in 40 years in close to half of the country's population. more than 7000000 people of faces acute hunger. the number shows the current crisis could surpass the famine of 2011, which saw more than a quarter of a 1000000 people die of starvation. you still haven't declared a famine yet officially. that would allow humanitarian aid to flow in to the country. why? first of all, yes, years widely explicit. so my there as multiple crisis bliss that's true regarding the drought that are there to see this, that out. now we have to fix them. but with the effort to of the so my la government and with the support of international community right now,
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i can say temporarily we are, but it does have mean that is not fair. mean right now, but still that it risk is looming. i am not claiming that somalia is free from the risk of having for me, but with the generosity of the international community with the support of so many people. right now we have to that. i mean, but it's still the challenges i had and it's death. i mean, you say looming or in the winter now within a few months we could be seeing a family of 4 foot family. no, no, i don't believe so on the reality in the ground right now. the amount of food available in the country that the amount of food to spirits, to beauty throughout. there is no immediate fair mean or crisis or risk right now or the next one, a month or 2 months. if there were some who estimated that your initial reason, your initial reluctance to declaring a famine was less about knowing that it could be averted in more about not wanting
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to redirect funds that would have otherwise been directed toward a long term development projects. what would you say as a president of somalia, recently elected on the 6 months i'm in the office? the 1st thing that i did was up on the special envoy for the drought victims to go to support and raise the awareness of the international community under. don't notice how the situation is and that's what made that somalia has got a lot of support from the outside world. and that's what i am saying that we averted the immediate fad. mean right now that's number one. number 2, i want to tell you that in my office where i have only 3 priorities. right now, one is the water. this is tara, the 2nd is the humanitarian issue. and the 3rd is the debt relief completion point of the head big saw for us, the humanitarian aspect is a top top priority in somalia. and we do a lot of work on that by mobilizing with the local resources as well as international consultants. and that's what averted def,
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i mean this been collecting this people would have predicted months ago that family would take blissful molly and right now the indicators were certainly there and you're saying that you averted it because of support. what kind of work talk a little bit more about the type of support you receive in a situation like that. there was an agenda and images, images to supplies. i didn't supplies we, i appointed a special invoice, was stablish, it is so monday, just a management agency that's in charge of that. and then the important supplies that we are receiving is in the morn, foot, and number 2 is money to raise those food items that saves the life on all the live saving a part us is in place. i'm not denying that there is a risk of, i mean, in the future, but right now, the risk of some of their somali has been labeled as a fragile state. it's annette, not just now that's really been on and off our since presidency at barry's military . government was overthrown in 1991,
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which of course led to state collapse. frankly, some of the worst years in your country's history. today, the country appears at the top of the organization for economic cooperation and development, fragility framework. your state is classified as extremely fragile, given the situation on the ground right now. is some molly in danger of collapsing again? well air fessor fall and being a for a tell it state is not the specific for. so my idea there are many countries. so miley, as a struggle it and went through a long way to come up or to come out of the field state that it was for a long time. and now we are in a furniture state and we're moving forward to model that you're going to get out of food. what is going on right now, but like a, that relief progress that we've made and we are going out of the head process in the coming months or so by having establish it all the political stability that
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transferred the power peaceful from one system from one total to another, to another, not the one time to time to re times. so these are indicated that somebody's moving out of rigidity. and i mean, to be clear that the move from fail to fragile was more about a change in language, then an actual improvement just in terms of the framework itself, just for the audience has benefit. they've simply change the language that they use or what the idea that you're still so high up despite certainly some improvement, has many people concerned. you've talked about some of the things you're doing a steve off complete state failure. talking a little bit more though, about the type of economic insecurity moves you have to make. there's a genuine concern in, i think a reasonable one, a well founded one that you're still on the verge. look, we want to see the war. clans, fighting against glad groups functions and instructions. we want all through this, but we are out of now. now the only conflict we had is with the terrace to groups.
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yes. a society in everywhere that are local level conflict to see it on there. but not do killing a lot of people are buying a lot of people violent conflict it now in somalia is the extent mr. could fight. and so let's talk about that because you declared total war yes. on algebra. and you've been very clear unequivocal about that, of course, that card only group. oh, they currently controlled 20 percent of the country. they also have a functioning shadow government and they have not ceased their recruitment, your country's instability, but economically and socially is really linked in. it's cited as one of the motivating factors for me, people joining the group. so help me understand how you will address the root causes that allow in astra bab to exist in the 1st place. well, my dear friend, oh, the way i again i said is talking about the yesterday. we are not dr. about to day to day. so molly, are the main discussion going on? is post achumba. what before we get to post out about their accent recruiting,
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i want to make sure because my concern is that we'll be finding it forever. war. no, no. you just submitted. when we said a total war, we have from you or bruges, introduce it now against the war on shabbat. and we are showing all indicated that without succeeding and shabby school to end, why shabbat existed 1st them in this to that, that's a long history. that's the trailer. that was that show up everywhere all over the world, wherever you see there is a terrorist group, florida. shes. that's where the state is not existing on its week on for a general. what have you say? so might want a time whether there was, might state at all, that it was a breeding ground for this people. they call it over the world for and is that there? yes, but what are people who are unfortunately not surprising? how do we know that? that's not the case. now, the rule, you said the rude you citizen, there are people who are in the tourist group for ideological reason. that are people there for economic reasons that are people there for having grievances or
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other grievances, social and clan systems on all this. absolutely, that this group's to get together. but the court good is the ideological group that us make all this work together. so my, the and i was in a position that we have the you cannot have eloquence edition without function state institutions. we started now to have the functions to have somebody is in agreement with politically. we have the platform to meet that political to conciliation. this is going on right now. it is, i don't doubt that you leave this platform. you've been very articulate about what the platform is, predict the ideological and the economic levels up. might it not be an overstatement though, to say that you're winning the war? they still control 20 percent of the country. they're still actively recruiting. i say your, your plan may be success all this moment. they are not actively recruiting now. and you said that to control 20 percent of the country. they were controlling 80 percent of the country to d. you know, shove up,
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can not move in freely in everywhere. we cut all the lines that they were supplying among them. and what areas do they no longer perform for is teachers there were, we are. fife is status, and so my land lease on my land for estate of the current federal republic of somalia was 80 percent controlled by a chop up. now there are almost 2 states are almost going to be free from of job in weeks time. the other 2 states are serious, but bad issues which will go on. so this is the reality to be in the ground. 2 major, it's federal member states are going to be free from a shop in which you also asked the united states, which has re deployed a small number of troops to the country to loosen restrictions on drone strikes. the use of draws, of course, isn't new, but these are just rapes remains very controversial. targets are often difficult to discern. civilians are frequently killed during attacks. that's according to many organizations calling human rights watch an amnesty international. why would your
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government call for more drawn strikes that could very likely kill innocent civilians? well, it experience always has a learning calf. yes, it had been those strikes in the past in some parts of so many other civilian victims. that had been that as we started, the current can be now there is no inequality on side or side effected out or in the civilian effort, base it on the experiences and the restrictions there on the drop. the or breaking the door is not a free free lunch so that everybody can do whatever you want. restrictions and procedures that, that employees and we have participating what, what are those procedures? because when we look at the door section of ghana, stan in pakistan in somalia, in yemen, are just what i, what was the job strikes me, civilian casualties that there seems to be other homes i wanted the road is flags were successful without having the civilian casualties you know, the kind of war we are in, i'm not claiming and i'm seeing that will not police,
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but we are doing all the necessary precautions. why avoid our water? i did not know what to wobble if you see it here. but we are doing all the necessary precautions to avoid civilian casualties and the for the last 6 months that this approach is going on. we succeeded that we dont have civilian casualties as an out or we'll have to see the investigations on that and make sure that that's the case. it again, it seems hard to believe, but you've actually got to loosen restrictions. so you're saying that you don't, or you can to make sure that the no civilian casualties at the very same time that you're calling to loosen restrictions on, on drawn strikes, the restrictions of the very thing that limits vision, capt civilian casualties know, and that has such as abdomen is some of the we are not losing those sort of struction is that protected is a feel of guttural. there are others. we look at both options and specifically which one. i'm not going to discuss it in public. li, you've car to loosen, restructure that you've publicly corporate. i'm saying that we are not losing the
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restriction. is that risk? is the life of civilians? bd. i understand that where i'm at now as a 2nd lawyer as me, the military receptionist please. but you publicly call for these researches to be loosened while you're calling for and the restrictions are not the restrictions on that effect, the civilian casualties. so these restrictions you probably called for are private in military theory military. yes. it's a military researchers for related on the military breaches, not a citizen that affected civilian, the civilian security. no. um. so you probably call for restrictions that you can't publicly explain what they are. yes, i insist. okay, let's talk about the past decade of government and international partners have funded klan malicious and in the fight against algebra to get to that push chabad world you're talking about. but there are multiple reports of the group. the groups instead killing raping torturing civilians in their own communities and beyond. no,
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as this, didn't these klan malicious? i don't have this reports. i'm the principal. i don't have it. wow. the u. s. bureau of democracy, human rights and labor. i'll give you an example of claim militia. april may 14th 20215 members of a class militia race, a re women, and attempted to rape to others. the militia members were allegedly wearing s p. f, somali police force uniforms and working with mogadishu, the nile district administration. we've seen reports of gender based violence. we've seen militia and torture. there's a report here that says of torture and other call in human integrating treatment or punishment at the hands of clam militias. some which are government affiliated remains frequent in 2021. we've also seen reports of klan militias, a be heading out about fighters. so if we see beheadings, if we see a militias and torture, rape, and hope, i hope that i final you get these reports. my friends, which are readily available,
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how do you hold them accountable? how do you explain that? my friend, $221.00 ellis with each out of somalia. i would like you to ask me what i responsible . i'm each act of it. mistake has had been in the past and every shove up at that everywhere that a, that they have the military uniform or the police uniform on this are available in the market. so i would have liked you. let us discuss the somali of today, or, or in the somali fit in the time i leave today. how will you hold those clare militias accountable for what they've been doing consistently for the last 10 years and don't. and this is, we know evidence that they've, that. no, it's all about how you approach the glen malicious and where the operate and how they operate. so how do you approach this is the klan militia, they are operating in their own klan territory. and the crown was yesterday, the only their own people when there is a cleanser and point out that they are not warranted that they're doing is that they're, they're working in their own communities, ambia. and that's not true. i deny that. and i would have liked further proofs to come up well in years that you haven't finished reports,
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but i'd like you to look at these reports and he was bureau of democracy, human rights and labor. i think the war lee, you'll be able to see the also the united nations mission in somalia, the un office of high commissioner for human rights. they talk about all of these things in the reports, are contradicting which are say, but as a senior the senior portrait. i think you should mister president because these are urgent issues. and if you're going to address them, you say it's how you approach you are keeping me. you are keenly me with the the, the fisher circle of the. so madison difficult thumbs in the past. we are moving forward. this does not mean that it will remain to day as it was to wanted to want to or even a decade ago. somebody's moving is progressing. we don't have such incidents right now and we're walking. i will, we will, i will not. so we'll only not sure how you hold them accountable, having to move forward. we need accountability when he justice. how do you hold those groups accountable for these actions? there was always systems that makes them accountable. those systems were weak with thank a think those systems, whether they are traditional or religious or illegal, we are starting different all the systems in believe can you give me more detail
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about that? because what are the systems that are being strengthened? how are you shipping them, mobilizing our them is raising the it's not, it's not this which that but aware awareness raising doesn't stop rape a right awareness raises the stop beheadings about about biters. it stops it got to the beauties, the whole floor stops dissing. but where there is no hall floor, what are we going to do that there were okay, so what was lots, are we saying you're prosecuting with people? are we are, we are raising people on this? have you been doing that now? there are people who are in the custody of the security forces and in the process of judicial, there is a special case that they will like to mention here in the city of georgia, the capital city of which i believe there was a man who we beat a woman and we'll kill the secret service, had been after him for a couple of months. the, the, they took him, his in custody, and his in the court of law right now. and in the coming, these are weeks there will be a judgment against him. so that's the one example only, but the,
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the security forces, the rule of law, a part of this are wound after every single piece that happened right now, there are clearness, all, there are people who make a legal chip on the street and route to some people they have been taken under the custody. they are going in the process of the role in the process of the court tried now talk to me or talk to me about refugees. more than 80000 people have led somalia and arrived in kenya. did the refugee camps over the past 2 years, escaping conflict in drought? what resources are severely strained at these camps as you well know, these camps how's more than 200000 refugees and asylum seekers? those into deb are facing over crowded, living conditions. there's a cholera outbreak there right now. what kind of cooperation have you set up with the canyon government or support? somali says, is there will it? this is a very painful reality. our people are there. not only want now,
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but generations are in the refugee camps. now people will bond there are now, could this have good kiddies and so, so it's a variable painful reality that's there. and the only way out is solving the problem the school to problem of. so molly, one is that solve it, then people will come back. of course, there are number, some parts of this people doubt it for economically, instead of food is economic refugees, they are not all schools refugees, but we're working with the government of kenya. i visited kenya twice since within elective new president. one of the subjects that we were discussing is the refugee we really appreciate and sympathize the difficulties that kenya is facing because of this refugees. and it has been born october when to pick back up people. and that's why, but we cannot get back right now, but that's why we are going to make. so miley are free from our shut up. so my idea that the whole flu is upheld until malia,
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that all the challenge that existing is gradually improving. so we are envisioning that those of us images will come back and we are discussing right now you can imagine timetable for that. first of all, you know, if you just have to come back voluntarily course. and by coming back voluntarily, there have to be convince it. and believe that going back is a better place than the refugee because it v comes, they are getting some services. they have to good those services and have to get that short of secluded. so even psychological took on business people who take pat . so taking time frame for that, but within 2 years we are expecting that the attorneys of the food is thought it do it a couple of years for all of them to come back. they may not come back all of them, but after 2 years, what we are expecting and planning is that they will start coming back. you stated recently that you want us to malia to be in inclusive and progressive society. you
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mentioned wanting strong democratic processes. you want accountability, you want transparency in the government. ah, but a key component of any society like that is a free press. in october of veteran somali journalists, abdullah at mid whitman raised concerns about a new government directive, prohibiting quote, dissemination of extremism, idiology messages. fearing that it could tacitly restrict free speech, bookman who is the secretary general of the somali journalist syndicate was arrested. journalist and somali are often under threat when they criticize our spare during the threat when they criticize the government. how will you address these kinds of issues if you want to create the kind of progressive and inclusive somalia that you articulated well air freedom of expression? is it a fundamental principle for our air political thought under
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a democratic establishment that we wanted to put in place? yes, that fight against al bob. me take some as 30 some, some people from our us. but what we are talking about, but a bug eating alabama agenda and propagating fights, information misinformation regarding algebra. that's what we have been talking but not at freedom of expression and not a free speech. it is not a free but abdullah, another woman was, was arrested quote for publicly disobeying a government directive in holding a press conference that criticized the directive. well that is a directive is a low, and it's a legal framework and we'll know what was the directive, will no one not propagating al shabbat ideology. that was the main focus. how did he publicly propagate?
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if bob's, if he, if he objected and rejected the directive, what does me, what you think the directive is from? you can't promote out about it. how did he do that? he refused, the directed is, as you rightly said. now, he objected the direct if, if you objected the directed, that means whether he's sticking free hand to propagate the idea of on shabbat or to or, or he and i knew the of of a government restricting free speech. no, that's the difference that the directive is not restriction of the good or free speech. that directive was not intended at all. and there are laws that protect the free speech. this directive was not against those loose. he has suffered violations of his human rights. according to many good organizations, given the code the committee to protect journalists, including arbitrary arrest in detention, denial of fair trial rights, and restrict restriction of his right to freedom of expression. he says he still faces threatened prosecution from somali authority, yet he respond to that. if the,
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if these are there, these claims out of there, we have horton and we have rule of law systems. they have to go through the court system and go, everybody can be no one is above the law and we offer judicial assistance that functions let them go to legion that should resist them. you've talked a lot about the post or else about somalia, which your vision for the country. this is the one you've been talking recently. them were arctic, somalia, that uphold is all the direct principles that are applicable to our continental society on our faith and the somalia. that is, flew from violence, had so much that says self sufficiency in many aspect, this democratic somalia, which appalled is the constitutionality. yes, still we are in the building of that society, but that's the vision was the president. thank you so much for joining me. an upright thank you. that is our show up for i will be back next week. ah
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