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ah japan announce as its biggest military build up since world war 2. it wants to develop long range missiles. but what will this mean for the asia pacific region and japan's pacifist constitution? this is inside story. ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. japan says the strategic challenge posed by china is the biggest it's ever faced. besides paging,
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japan has 2 other nuclear arms neighbors in north korea and russia. it's expressed concerns about intensifying russian military activity in it's far east, even as moscow presses on with its war against ukraine. and the north korean missiles flew over japan in october. but took years military expansion plans are a reminder of an imperial past. when it occupied the korean peninsula and parts of china and seized all of east asia during the 2nd world war will go to our guests in just a moment. first, this report from friday, a car for decades, japan's post war military policy has been defined by its pacifist constitution. americans fight against japan in the 2nd world, war killed millions and left the country in ruins. the u. s. forced to accept restrictions to its military. we could never again threatened peace in the regent, but 8 decades on the west now counts in japan as a crucial ally against
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a rising china and a nuclear armed north korea. now japan wants to significantly increase its military spending $315000000000.00 in the next 5 years, or 2 percent of its gdp. the money is meant to rapidly expand the military, including acquiring long range missiles. japan's governing right wing liberal democratic party as pushed for more military spending and recent years. it could, she might call creek i. as we look back on the past year for the 1st time in 5 years, a ballistic missile flew over estimates. another landed in japan's exclusive economic zone. we've also seen signs of preparation towards nuclear testing. the boundaries between confrontations and peace time military and non military are no longer clear . and historically passes public appears to have shifted to russia's attack on ukraine has raised alarm and tokyo about territorial disputes.
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with moscow, china's claims in the south china sea to are seen as an increasing threat. add to that list, beijing's military drills around taiwan earlier this year. in which some of the chinese missiles landed in waters close to japanese islands and china's push for re unification with taiwan, japan for years this could choke off the shipping, mainly used for energy and port. but china and japan must pursue diplomacy. if you had a major proven japan's proposed defense policy, documented in disregard of facts deviates from japan's commitment bilateral relations and the consensus between china and japan and contains ground. a smears against china, china is firmly opposed to this. we have been making clear our solemn position with the japanese side through diplomatic channels. for decades, japan security was enhanced by the presence of us basis. but concerned about doing the heavy lifting for its allies. washington has given its support for japan's
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planned military expansion. with north korea flying massage over japan. tokyo wants to get south korea. and so i to the 2 countries have pledge to men, historically poor relations. the korean peninsula was the victim of japan's militaristic expansionism a century ago. and the subject of changing its pacifist constitution has caused concern. bought leaders in tokyo, insist the imperial era has long since passed. and japan was now locked to rearm freddie. a car for inside story. ah, well let's bring in our guests down and in singapore katara, tamora adjunct professor lake one you school of public policy. he's also a former senator with japan's liberal democratic party in turkey, nancy snow communications director at the national security industrial industrial council. she's also a foreign policy advisor to the japanese government and anti pe,
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david rossi was the professor of international politics at the hopkins managing center of i was welcome to all of you, a guitar. let's stop because this with you because this is a significant break, isn't it? of japan's long hell. tradition of only having defensive weapons. is this japan abandoning its pacifist dance? well, you know, i think the last wall and the piece is nothing back by law. bond is pretty much bonds. i me block, been in favor. i think china and we are in by, by a powerful neighbors like lasha. no. scalia, china, since war happens when you play i think we are in the most challenging situation
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since the law school. so we need to push back to the new equitably and family jobs. we got to get about the boss east asia. so i think the country might follow japan's past including taiwan. not pretty sure what will happen. he called you about a pair later on today. we, we will look a little more at the wider region him them and david, 1st of all, do you agree with guitar is view that this is japan balancing the situation rather than making an aggressive stance. well, it hasn't made a move at all toward amending its peace constitution. article 9, what's happened is the war ukraine, i think, has changed the consciousness and debate about security in, in asia. because,
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you know, as in europe or an actual shooting war was unthinkable. and it has been unthinkable in asia, but the ukraine war has proven that war is, in fact a real possibility, particularly because of japan's neighbors, north korea, russia, which has labeled japan and unfriendly country because it leveled sanctions against russia after ukraine and china. they all have their fingers on the trigger. and so japan are, has held to a one percent of g d p spending limit. or since, you know, since basically the end of world war 2. and are, it's now walking up to the fact that it's actually in a very perilous situation. there's a war, could break out even that green peninsula in east tennessee. taiwan or south genesee in any,
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any contingency in those areas would be an existential threat for japan's economy. so japan is reacting now by increasing and spending above one percent to the, to the nato 2 percent or earth norm that within 5 years. and nancy, japan may not have changed to its constitution, but does not the acquisition of tomahawk missiles, which can hit china, which can head to russia, is that not direct and confrontational conflict with the article 9 the piece the past, the 1st part of the constitution? well, you know, i was just watching a brief thing by the japanese government because they released the new national security doctrine today. and they made it very clear that even with this increase in the military, the emphasis was on deterrence and it was on defense. so it was not on becoming an aggressor power. if anything, japan is taking
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a role of stability partner in the world. we see this through the quad. we see there's through the rhetoric of free and open endo pacific. so your pan is not really hungry for going to war. it is wishing to protect itself, defend itself against the existential threats that have been mentioned. the curious part here is how are you going to pay for it? that's the other angle to this. and there is some debate and just sent inside of the l. d. p, including talk ministers about going with the corporate tax or increasing deficit spending. but the public is largely on board. it's ironic when you think back to shins, bay in 2016 people were taking to the street about changing the constitution
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and becoming more assertive player on the world stage. now it's about 51 percent support for this increase in spending. and my g, this is going to be over 5 years. but this is not going to happen overnight. but it's a response to a response to the reality of living. not only in a dangerous neighborhood, but in an increasingly dangerous world. all see that guitar, do you think the republic the public is going to remain on board when it looks like the, the, the funding for this increase defense spending is going to come from the pocket is going to come from raising taxes. i think, you know, painting and dramatically changed since you're glaring wall. you know, very interesting work for your pan. definitely
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public of course, you know, there is a still the debate on how to compensate for this large expenditure using tax cut off spending cause and basically the government is anonymous thing that we use the 3 kind of parts go into a box on the tobacco box but they know they are not clearly mentioning and so 2 percent increase to the g to be a 2 percent of the g. d p is not happening. someone said light away, take 5 years on 2027. but the japanese people, while you're in the steadily understanding, we are not living in the end of the history. so history is here. and you know, it's still look, john go is preventing in east asia as well. so, you know, our neighborhood is much more powerful. and, you know,
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the conflict of conflict of the conflict will be much larger. it's pumping hot. i one number one, number 2, number 3, economy will be in bolt. so we need to push back to the rear. bam. you know, that there's not such a, not that you know, touch kind of a prodigy happens to take the economy to save a piece on the of the legion david, what's been beijing's response to this when they were pretty unhappy to be singled out as an unprecedented strategic challenge one day. yes, but at the same time, i think china knew very well what was going to happen weeks maybe months ago. so what they've done is they've played down the they've played down this, this is change. and they're actually emphasizing to
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cooperative relations with and they've made it very clear that they want cooperative religion relations, especially in the economic spheres with match which mesh is very well with the japanese hedging strategy. because even though you know, japan has, is increasing its deterrence and defense capabilities. at the same time, japan has been very careful all along to told china it's, it's interested in maintaining a very productive and mutually beneficial economic relationship. it's not interested in you know, fighting a war starting. ringback or doing anything risky, but it's just basically putting china on, on guard on warning that japan will extend its, its territory sovereignty its national interest in extreme cases. in
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a big question, david, i suppose, is whether china invades taiwan. then japan really does have to get involved in yeah, one of 2 ways. one is if it absolutely does not do anything to chapter to japan and japanese clean territory isn't just just focuses only on taiwan. but even that is a huge security problem for japan. and also for the united states and for taiwan, obviously. and so japan is likely in either case, whether it's, it's, it's attacked, whether it's territory or attack as part of a large operation against taiwan. or even if it's excluded. there's a, there's a good chance to japan will be forced into it because i don't really think that if the u. s. gets into this in, gets involved, that us basis and you know, in other places would be immune to a chinese strike, which of course, is a strike on japanese territory. so basically,
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whatever happens with taiwan is going to deeply affect japan and actually, you know, it won't just stop there, it'll affect south korea, it'll effect something, stager, you can amik the economy's insecurity of those countries as well. and so but yeah, i think japan actually has calculated that the situation in taiwan street has gotten to a point where they really have to be attentive and be prepared for contingencies. and i see how much does this shift from japan deter china from invading taiwan? you know, i, i don't really know how the china and dating taiwan anytime soon, and this is so much broader than just war games. we talk so much about taiwan, but japan has other challenges in terms of increasing its defense budget. it's very weak and cybersecurity defense. these of a china,
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china is much more further along. so when we talk about war, we're changing the dynamic, the understanding of war. now, it involves information involves diplomacy. it involves economics. and this is why it's critical that there is a conversation more nationally within japan and within asia, about where are we going? because really this is increasingly a competition from an authoritarian regime to those that are more open society. so there's just a conversation about what kind of world order to we want rule of law, and this is the again, the talk coming out of japan and the other quad members. and this is why alliances are so important. but taiwan, we talk about in, you know, we talk about it so much, but it's just so much bigger than that. of course, that is
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a concern. but this is about human security. it's about civil society. and that's why having the communication saying goal, which is the field i work in, is critical because the public will go up and down on this issue. if there's a missile strike over from coming from north korea, of course, then people want to respond to it. but if it's just a pocket book issue and it looks like people are suffering because of it, then they're, they're support will wage, so they have to be on part. and they have to have a better understanding of this. and also katara, if we're looking at other areas that japan is going to be funding, it's spending $14000000000.00 on space capabilities. i mean, that actually sounds quite exciting. what, what does that involve? so we'll be expanding the additional part not only for updating japan's
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capability, come to that case where the, you know, including a cruise messiah, but also cyber security. pace and updating, you know, oh the facilities for aging. so we need to recruit young fresh people. and someone had mentioned, you know, it's important not only in please being made it expanding but also increase. what unity to dial to be in china, japan and miscalculation that miscommunications is very dangerous. so emotional to the child's whole layer dialogue. but also we have to have a, you know, top to bottom, china and also in case of emergency half of the. so that's the most important part i pick. ok, david, what, what fear is all that, if any,
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that this build up of missile capability of which we've seen a lot of in the region recently is going to spark for an arms race throughout the asia pacific. i guess you're talking about your pens, acquisition in 1000, on talk longer range in north korea, building up. it's miss all capability and others. yes, yes. yes. well, so it's, it's important to understand what the, what these missiles are intended for and what to capable of. so, so these are going to be, at least at 1st most the cruise missiles and they're going to be able to stress for the 1st time, japan is going to be able to strike land targets in north korean. and china and, and this is a big, this is a big change because in terms of weapons, procurement and doctrine,
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japanese have not thought about defense going as far as, as striking enemy military capabilities. but because of the incredible speed of modern war, particularly with the stock of missiles that korea and trying to have japan really can't mount a credible defense or can't mount incredible deterrence. if it, if it just waves to be hit after lengthy preparation with the massive waves of ballistic missiles, it has to be able to strike the, the, the bases that are sending the missiles to japan in order to defend itself. and so that's why these missiles are designated counter strike missiles and it's, it's not meant to it's not meant to add to an arms
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race. what's, what it's, it's meant to correct for just in accumulating advantage for a 1st strike by north korea or china. it's gotten to the point now where there's so many offensive missiles able to target japan or taiwan or any other, any close in target that of just a 1st strike could be absolutely crippling and disabling, and leaving, leaving the victim or target unable to find itself. particularly if it's had no way to take out the launch site. ok, i want to jump in the because i want to get an idea from you that japan, if it has these tomahawk cruise missiles, if it has some short, it's got we've had to use them. but is it going to do that? so you know, enabling public countries to grow what's on the side supersonic right now. so,
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you know, we declare you don't come to that capability preparation. that means you're not playing with that so fast like will be very, very, had a clue shop. and for example, china to pounds of supersonic means house on the coastline. so that's so caught, that's some, you know, 5 minutes a lot of people to japan. so i think you know, the easiest, you know like to be preparing for the food where the midsize, i don't think it's not on the last thing happen. so you know, it's too late and we need to least prepare. we need to have the show. we have a capability, if you do something wrong,
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we like to do something also not very yeah. to use. it has been going on, i think for the equivalent taking bonds. that's, does the japan feel that it may have to do this because it's looking to the us and seeing that it's not quite as reliable a partner as it might have one source? of course. yeah, i mean the us, japan relationship now it's very solid, but all you have to do is look at the united states and you see a lot of polarization. you see a country that, that needs this alliance help. it can't be the only pacific power engaging in all of these various threats. i was trying to jump in earlier though to say we've got to look forward here to the g 7 meeting that's taking place in may. 2023. in her roshan much japan. you couldn't get more symbolic. so talking about increasing
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the defense budget at the same time that there will be talk about reading a world of nuclear weapons. i mean, you know, we're, we're sort of dreaming bit get the same time we're talking about burst dry counter strike capacity. and we don't want to raise so many fears that people will be paralyzed by fear that something is evidently going to happen. and so i, that's why i stress dialogue, guess course, that you keep these the information clear to the public and also meet regularly. i mean, japan and china are the, our major trade partners with each other. they're fully integrated. and so it's not just about threats always. it's also about daily business activities. and that's why, again, i say, look at the larger picture here. well, that's
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a very interesting point to finish on. thank you very much to all our guests for joining us today. katara, tim or nancy snow and david are a and thank you to for watching the can see the program again any time by visiting our website as al jazeera dot com for further discussion. to go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. because during the conversation on twitter, handlers at ha, inside story from me laura kyle and the whole team here. it's bye for now. ah along with
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