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people with disabilities. why is this community excluded from planning for emergencies? where live on youtube? so tell us your thoughts and join the discussion. ah, more than a 1000000000 people worldwide live with a disability and studies say they are 2 to 4 times more likely to die in a disaster. experts say this is because most countries don't take their needs into account. when formulating emergency plants, as climate change makes natural disasters more common and more damaging things are changing, many disabled communities around the world are getting more involved when it comes to handling emergencies. take a listen as to why do group that is slated to be most impacted by climate change is disabled people. it will be us like everything else. it will impact us the most and which sounds and all these pre planning ideas that people have or are disasters and climate change in extreme weather events. they normally apply to us through

a lot of us. they cannot evacuate a lot of us. i can get our meds in advance and you want to set the extra 3 days worth everything that happens to our community. as always, is a policy decision for a lot of people that do not care that these things are devastating to our communities, global scale. joining us to discuss today's topic and laundry. she's a disability researcher based in london. we also have edmund perotti. he's the co executive director of the partnership for inclusive disaster strategies and is based in philadelphia, pennsylvania. and finally, welcome to aaron brown. she's a disability inclusion consultant based in nasa, in the bahamas. so much to discuss here anna, let's start with the basic, obvious and important question. why are people with disabilities disproportionately affected in the 1st place? that's a great question. so what happens is that when planning for disasters, disaster planners often don't include disabled people in the spectrum of those who

are going to be affected. able isn't positions are needs as too far outside the norm to be planned for. so you have this idea that disabled people are expected losses that were just not going to make it that were not even worth planning for. and that's a self fulfilling prophecy. and that's why we see what we do with disabled people dying and being injured far more frequently. aaron, does that resonate? i see you nodding your head. who and this statement alone just gave me chills because that is the absolute reality. and that's actually how we feel when we hear about the preparedness though recovery and the relief strategies that does not include our communities, our families. and we're sitting there saying to ourselves, do you want me to live through this disaster? so yes, i totally agree with andrew and adam and i want to share with you sort of for our audience, at least. let's start with just outlining some of these numbers behind this issue.

take a look at this. according to the united nations, a 180 member states have ratified the convention on the rights of persons with disabilities. 15 percent of the world's population, or more than 1000000000 people are living with a disability. just to give you a sense of, you know, how, how, and how much impact this has on people's lives. 80 percent of people with disabilities live in developing countries. and of course are more vulnerable to climate change. and as we mentioned at the top, people with disabilities 2 to 4 times more likely to die in a disaster. edwin, i know that you and your colleagues deploy on the ground in puerto rico and elsewhere. i'm curious if you could share with, with us, you know, for our audience just to bring to life what kind of work it is that you do when that happens. thank you. ok let. and we're going to listen and thank you for joining discover session, which is very important to, to the future of us all in this asters, our organization, the partnership for inclusive assessor strategies,

which is out to local disability better organizations like aaron brown in the bahamas. right. after dorian in puerto rico, we reached out to and then sessions around the world. many united states called centers for independent living ability lead focus on people with disabilities. we deployed in after maria to puerto rico, and to the bahamas. dorian, connect with disabilities that are going to station mutually connect with the ministry responsible for our welfare and go out into the community with the boot. the they're going to station idol week and forgive me i'm, and i'm just wondering when you, when you're doing all this important work and all these collaborations, what are the biggest challenges if you can share with us what are the concerns that the community are highlighting fewer that you see, well we go out together, that's part of we're going out seeing what is the true pain being left behind by the gap. people who are power dependent. people not getting their medication.

people in, in the outskirts of the central area, not receiving services. we find that people, what is the ability that a lot are often forgotten from where the service delivery will be? oftentimes right after the fact, the points of distributions are set up iris that people with disabilities often cannot get too. but even ahead of the storm, many did not hear the alarms, did not know that his answers were coming, were not equipped to readily be preferred for the factors. and afterwards are, are nice and share. erin can send more. our needs are forgotten. in, in the bahamas after dorian months and months and months later, people that needed medication and insulin were not receiving it. and i appreciate you, you kind of bring it up that they're kind of not only not prioritized but an afterthought . forgotten. aaron, i want to come to you, but before we do, i want to get an, a comment that we have that was sent to us from julia,

a professor at georgetown kind of just framing this in a really powerful way. take a listen disabled people live in a world that wasn't helped for us. we face able listen every day, whether that's inaccessible, infrastructure, poor public transit, not enough sign language, interpreter's intense poverty. the list goes on. when there's a natural disaster, those structural barriers become a matter of life and death. the problem isn't disability. the problem is able listen. the problem is poor planning. communities fail to center disability access in the best of times and during disaster situations that magnifies the inequality. so that was julia bell, sir, a professor at georgetown university. she talked about structural barriers and i

saw erin and anna, both of you nodding at the same time. i wanna ask you, erin, why did that resonate and no, it, it resonated for many reasons. and one, it's a proud moment to hear other persons around the world amplifying the voices of our community with disabilities. as human said during torrie and what we recognized the barrios were also the communication. in the relief finding out who still is available, who still have access to what are their needs, even the shelters having accessible bathroom, being able to bring the additional equipment that you would need when you are going to a shelter. how do i get to the shelter? and so a lot of these things that you would have assumed to be built in to the current system is not. and therefore, we have to continue to speak about the gaps,

speak about the barriers that are not only just physical or infrastructure well, but also systematic. because the procedures, the practices, the policies do not speak to access inclusion and opportunities for persons with disabilities during disaster or emergency. an anna, you know, when a disaster is about to strike, were often told either to, to flee, or to go find an emergency shelter, or to, you know, stock up on medical supplies and, and, you know, you know, for as long as potentially 72 hours, i mean, how are those, you know, how are those instructions sort of failing ah, the disabled community? yeah, well i think we saw an, for example, new orleans hurricane katrina, where disabled people were left behind when the evacuation vehicles were not wheelchair accessible. and in fact, there's a really famous story in our community, a woman named ben eldrick. i shudder who drowned because of this in her wheelchair

. and this happens again and again, it's not because these needs are impossible to provide for or too hard to manage in an emergency. because as you hear him on is doing it, erin is doing it. i am doing it in our work. but the difference is that we're disabled, that we know me and we know it like the back of our hands because of our life. and the people make policy and the people carrying out this work are often not and that's why we have people. and on that note, i mean, you know, beyond erin, echoing you kind of, we have griffin, i'll see here on you tube. timing in saying the lack of trust is a big one to as the panelists mentioned, many folks with disabilities have had such poor experiences. they don't expect much from responders. edmond, i see that you're nodding. how do you see this play out when you're going around, you know, on the ground in the street trying to help people after

a disaster. right now we are supporting disability that responds in florida following hurricane e. m. today this morning through our disability in this after heart life, we have been supporting now for 3 weeks. and specifically, now a woman with a disability who was kicked out of the shelter, county around shelter. everybody else was able to get some service. this is a wheelchair user. now in the streets, we're working to get local supports as we speak. but this happens again and again that the system leave us in the us behind and think about this is in the eastern side in relation of florida, in the western side, in fort myers hospitals right up there. and we're telling people with disabilities, go back out, going to on and have it all places where we needed to intervene, get people to safe hospital hotels with wrap around services. this is

a systematic problem not only in around the world, but happening in the faith creating a awful promising practice that that's what they delineate as the example leaving people with disabilities behind. and i think this wider trend, which is that, you know, we have seen some improvement in the written rules about disability inclusion and disasters in the laws. in the international standards, especially since 2015. we have seen more countries include disabled people in those written standards. the problem is that those often do not reach the ground. we're not seeing implementation of those. what we're seeing is people talking that talk about inclusion and not saving lives when push comes to shove and disaster. and that's and ok, and i appreciate you bringing that up for many reasons. i mean, i know that in 2015 the u. n. sort of made it more of their sort of are part of

their agenda. let's say i'm curious how much progress we've actually made. but to give an example, i mean when we talk about inclusion, we received a video comment from fatten tech, our, who is in gaza, working and outlining how she works with children and what they do to prepare their . let's take a listen and then we'll come back to you. we train them how to think they have their emergency cases to be a tool to use in the emergency situation. also we'd train them tool tool is to develop a plan in order to little intervene and to answer add them to deal with the situation . so every, every one in be somebody members should have an old and should be, you know, how to deal and hope to event for example, evacuated children with disability. so we provide them with them. we can use them of evacuation for children with disabilities. and of that, the emergency situation is ending. we are, we visit and be in contact with those families to evaluate via

a situation and during the emergency and to start building a new plan for the upcoming emergencies or the any think we expect it would be, have been in the future. i found it interesting what fats and sat there about the follow up visits and how that informs future planning. it seems like you all seem to agree that one of the problems is that, ah, you know, the community itself is not included in, in the planning. and that if they were not only would it, you know, maybe be better for the community for the disabled community, i should say. but also just better planning a large, i mean, actor i remember i'm sorry for gimme airman, i remember when i was on the ground air during hurricane maria and puerto rico beyond being shocked by the sheer devastation i remember on day 2 or 3, i'm coming across a few people from the disabled community and, and being quiet, just reflecting. yeah. you know, it was, it was, it was clear to me that there was huge gaps still and, and, you know,

those experiences for me really informed how serious problem this is. i want to ask you a who's doing it, right. i mean, i know bangladesh of course, which isn't a tory is for her. if a flooding, anna has new strategies that they're, that they're trying to implement. what can you share with us about a few success stories where to look for how to proceed? well, i'll share a bangle just quickly and then i think header mine will have a lot of other great ones and bangle jazz just as i'm forgetting her name. but the woman who video just played and shared they are also training community members on how to assist disabled members of the community in the event of a flood, or a similar natural disaster with her, of course, having more and more often due to climate change. so you have this sense of training of what to do when disaster does strike and you have some material gains and actions, like the fact that they're building and providing accessible evacuation boat ramps

. that's the point on to the shore. so that's really great progress. and i about her mind can share some other examples. had mon, well, thank, thank you. and that's the perfect example. but as you can understand, it's happening by local leadership in the mall area, you know, maybe with large reach but, but the scope, if it's small, i'm sure of remembering from conversations with, by, for right you creating this ability lead organizations. we have been supporting to date, they have help over 2500 people. evacuate and thousands more shelter in place. we just got 41 pilots of supply fair a couple weeks ago, and they're getting ready for me for the winter coming by for right is doing it right. and together we're pushing across the frame humanitarian sectors. in puerto rico, following hurricane maria, there was a lot of work with the disability community and in the 2020 earthquakes, there was

a lot more rescue focused on people with disabilities. and the new was also being now after hurricane fiona. but this is the moment i'm, if more in target a see what's going on at the beginning. people with disabilities are about 1000000000 for set up a global population. we need to target this now an arrow which left left too many people would have the ability that right. and most of it was sorry, go ahead to. yeah, i just said yes, it needs to be record. most people with disabilities are the most impacted. and yeah, government ministries and the social networks need to work together to figure this out, or we will find the future where we are. right. aaron? yep, a man, you said it so well. and one of the term that you use that person's really need to

hold on to disability lead organization. what i love about my she brought family aspect into it, because for me, i'm a mother with a disability. i am and above the knee amputees. so i can use a wheelchair crutches or prosthetic leg, and when it was time to have to go into a shelter, i had to make a decision. if i was going to take my child with me, because for most families with disabilities, the shelter does not have the capacity to take the entire family. and so here in the bahamas, we're also looking at ways of registering so some of our impactful ways right now, because data collection and dis, applegate data is absolutely important. and so, registering persons with disabilities helping to build that trust. because if i don't trust this system, i'm not going to register, i'm not going to let you know what my equitable needs are in order for you to

provide it. and then also providing a hotline, as who man said, there is a disability hotline that, that the partnership provides globally for anyone to use. and so it aaron brown connects, did in the bahamas that we created one nationally. and so persons whether you are deaf, blind, hard of hearing neuro diverse, and you need to get in contact with social services or any other support you're able to use on what's left, what's up hotline number as well as calling it directly once is taxing in order to be the most accessible for you to get, would you need to write emergencies and does asked ryan, i appreciate you highlighting. i really do appreciate you highlighting the importance of registration. i mean, these things can seem simple and yet yet really fundamental to actually addressing the issues with that in mind. because we were talking about inclusion, we keep coming back to the marginalized, beyond the disabled community. it seems that you know, we have a video common that highlights sort of the compounded impact of,

of what happens if you're both from the disabled community and, and further marginalized within society. take a listen to what michael yankee had, say, a commissioner at the united states commission on civil civil rights take listen report. sure that if you're black, if you're brown, if you are low income, your ability to receive the same type of aid that a white person from or more affluent community could receive was very compromise. but a fewer disabled if you were deaf. if you had a physical condition that required medication in the aftermath of a disaster, that's when things really went downhill. and people with disabilities are the most vulnerable community after any natural disaster. so he was no commenting on this report that he had worked on this is of course, after the hurricanes and harvey and maria. but i'm curious, anna, when you heard him sort of talk about that, did, did it, did it help you or how can we take away from this conversation,

how to address that specific problem moving forward? not just in the u. s. but, but around the world. yeah. i think it shows that these solutions to these problems are going to be grassroots, and they're going to mean listening to the people affect it because the people affected don't exist along these clean lines of. are you disabled or are you a woman, or are you black or are you brown? we all exist an intersection of a lot of these identities, whatever they may be. and i think ahead of on and aaron and i keep saying, you know, disability and lead disability lead. and that mean reading from these other marginalized groups as well. i mean, disability is far more common in these multi marginalized communities and black and brown community, poor communities. so you're going to find that if you want to include disabled people, you have to include all disabled people, intersection of boosting. it's right and, and, you know, we all love it. i love it. you know,

i love that she spoke about intersectionality because even the migrant, she didn't say migrants, but migrants with disabilities also heavily impacted during disaster work. and then what i was going to say is, you know, we shouldn't, shouldn't think that people with disabilities are only, you know, mobility issues. actually let's take a listen to what the human rights lawyer. lucy kula had to say. she sent us this video from london. take a listen, how we talk about disability and our basic understanding of disability needs to ship. most cases we consider disability around mobility impairment. what do we know? of course disability have more to do the just with mobility issues. so not only the language need to change, but also the people who are involved in spaces, creating policies and laws that particularly affect the mostly marginalized, need to understand that when those people are not included in the room,

often time policies are not able to conquered at the root issue m, and i'm curious your reaction to that, that comment, but also what would you want our audience to know before we wrap up the conversation for today? so it's important. we need to prepare cross disability, not just physical and i am a wheelchair user myself. but all, all disability, psycho social and surreal. and bring all of our needs in the preparedness planning development. take away. involve yourself in emergency management or any level. begin developing in your communities in your household with your friends, a culture of preparedness. climate change is here. this testers are increasing. every person prepared by themselves with the community and with their systems make it will make a safe their future for us all. yes, yes,

and if i can add to that quickly in our wrists, in our, in our wrists gum reduction plan, we also need to recognize that chronic illness is, is inclusive of persons with disabilities as well. so whether you have sickle cell, you may have diabetes, you may have um, any type was spinal injuries multiple. i'm cirrhosis, all of these things. all of these things include you in to ah spaces, iraq pregnant women, pregnant women. we also want to consider and disaster any which in c's, are we making sure that every one is in vault out access to and is included in the planning? and on that note, i do want to thank you all for being such great leaders today and helping us navigate this topic. anna, before i let you all go, i want to congratulate you this tweet where you talk about, you know, having made it to the shaw trust disability power 100 list i just after having

moved to the u. k. where we're proud of you and, and thank you for taking the time again, anna adam on you and aaron to be on the show. yes, it's important for visibility, but also i know that we are able to hold the people making decisions accountable. and for those of you tuning in, remember here at the stream, the conversation always continues. you can follow us online at ha stream ah ah,

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