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of the carriages were brought from abroad, but others like this were made by artists from bethlehem. the parade has half to take a pause. the deed was supposed to make its way to the city of m a law. a general strike was announced to mourn the death of a palestinian prisoner in his ready jail across palestine. people remembered the loved ones, they lost this year. more so around the holidays at i'll just eat us offices. this is the 1st christmas without veteran deported shitting a barclay. she was killed by israeli forces while on a fine mountain jeannine in may. well, ethan is take pride that jesus was one of them and liked to celebrate his birth. in the hope that one day been half peace. me that but he enjoys eda yaki pied westbank. ah.
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and let's take you through some of the headlines now. french police have 5 tear gas as a demonstration, organized by kurdish activists and anti racism groups. thousands of people are rallying against the shooting of 3 people as a kurdish cultural center in paris. on friday. salah, been jervey reports from paris. you've been seeing those dramatic pictures coming from this avenue where behind us is the republic square, where protesters have been trying to come to words and i can show you on the other side, there is a police presence which has been able to push them back to words republic straight from the steel square and they're telling the protesters to stay on that and. and as you can see on the straw there's, there's plenty of debris, a burn the cars, trash cans. millions of north americans are under severe weather warnings as an arctic blast envelopes logs all the us and canada flights have been canceled. roads
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are blocked by snow and power out just have been reported. at least 5 people have been killed in a rush and strike in southern ukraine. 20 others were wounded in the attack and had on the city was retaken by ukrainian troops last month. it was a major set back. russia suffered in its war against ukraine. a gas tanker has exploded in the south african city of bucks, berg killing 9 people. several firefighters were injured while battling the flames . a report by if you can investigate this is blame the software failure for the crash of a boeing 737 max plane in 20195074 were killed when the c o p and airlines jet crashed minute south to take off from addis ababa. the findings correspond with previous investigations. thousands of supporters of
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india's main opposition party marching through the capital new delhi. the congress party has been leading them across the country since september to regain popularity . so they've been around because been confirmed as fi g 's, new prime minister ending days of political deadlock policy now only voted in favor of the former crew leader after an election earlier this month. ah, it's called the unite india march. the opposition always party says it's riley aims to highlight what is called the danger of the b j. p of y now. and is the congress
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party able to make a difference in india? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i am hash an i had butler, thousands of supporters of the main opposition party in india, have beach, the capital, you deli, they've been walking for more than 3 months to unite the country and are planning to continue until february. among them is raoul gandhi, former party of president, and the great grandson of joy halla, narrow the country's 1st prime minister. some critics say the demonstration is a desperate move that is unlikely to gain any new support for the congress party. pub limiter. has this report for a deli oh,
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the people have gathered here to join one of in just most powerful men. and that is raoul gandhi, the time of the indian national congress. he's walked out of kilometers across india for nearly 3 months. he says, his goal is to unite a country called arise by the governing b j. b. this comes as the parties trying to revive it, so the congress is down to one of its lowest tallies in parliament and is only governing 3 states. meanwhile, the governing bgp and crime is the marines modi remain unchallenged. and have enjoy unprecedented popularity despite drawing criticism about their handling of the pandemic, the handling of the economy and shrinking space for descent, as well as shrinking right for minority groups. and the state of the congress is in ability to challenge this criticism and hold the government accountable has contributed to the bgp success. they say that in the upcoming election, that is about 16 months away, 2024. when you get home general election,
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it will be smaller regional parties that will emerge as possible challenges to the bgp poverty method for inside story. more than a century old, the indian national congress party or simply the congress party, was the 1st war. the nationalist movement to immersion asia was still under occupation of the british empire. after independence in 1947, the party dominated politics in india. in 1952 in the 1st general election after independence, it swept to power in the national parliament and most state legislatures. congress held control until 1977 once one of the largest parties in india. it now all new governance, 3 of india's $28.00 states. bought a jewelry out there. i'm mcquaid gerardo glenwood, a gang. tell me people who are walking in the united india rally. are the ones who support dividing the country?
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how can people who plot of destroying the country speak of uniting it? how can the people, whose riley has the seeds of hatred, talk about opening shops of love, ah les ring in august's fault them a hun is a reporter. the quins, a gentle years of the opinion website in india, she joins us from the deli, until average, it is national spokesperson for the indian national congress. he joins us by sky from calcutta. also joining us from new delhi is who done show metal is a senior leader of the bahati janet, to potty, welcome to the program fatima, vis march. does it have any potential somehow to generate momentum for the congress party, or do you think it's too little too late? now, you know, the one criticism that has been leveled against the bonus, but you don't on the more specifically in life, he still has been there. he has been a passive edition. he is inconsistent in
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a position to be that if he goes on a thought, if he is been playing a role for the next week, that a, a session that has been big or him involvement and understanding in and so in that limited sense more the heart what, what the, how to do any other head is being able to successfully achieve a sledge shifting that perception in that image there on the have you know, been visual. i don't know him speaking to grounds even then even though it's gaining during city or then he's blocking it. people are already people from various folks. a woman. yeah, going to people who is even more indian. i joined the much it heads in that play shifting perception, my where those visuals will be able to translate into anything and it's going to be
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something we have to begin watching the 2024 elections or dislike before that or not to get on stage elections. just to give an idea of their own or stood as decent . yes, 2019. by 40, even being in filing on this they will light the sticks, english congress and the b. b. who had the next is an ingle, is the congress had been able to win, only 15, i down and he lost his own on this past year for me. that had been on his dash 24 days. so anybody in that and then the party and the team in a sectional image, the will be, it was thought of the party, i'll be gone this long to was a go, this is and, but had something slightly less. the moralizing of anecdotal status isn't it? we have to be in what's going on. so this is all about perceptions. how did a thing can the congress party build bridges, where the people injure when the general sentiment is of the leaders, particularly
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a whole gandhi is widely seen, or someone has always been disconnected. oh whoo, from the people of india. well i, jim, i'm, you know, this, this night india march has been unprecedented. it's been unparalleled. there's been nothing like it in the modern historic world. i mean, from, from the moment it took off from the dip of india went, went for an upwards, right. really coveting the backbone of it. yeah, there's been nothing like it, the crowds, the support, the organization that we've seen. and this was actually the call of history. i mean, we had to do it because of the divisive politics of the b j. b. they were trying to deb this country apart, there was hatred, there was spewing of venom. there was intact in ism, there was demonization of communities. there was majority in ism, so it was the need of the art to do it. but this is a non partisan march. i mean,
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it has its roots in politics because this is a political party, but it's outcomes. its objectives are a political, it's a social movement. it's a moral and ethical movement. and the congress knows enough about that, and it's 100 and, you know, 38 old history. the guardian movement was a political, an ethical movement that was an anti collodion movement. and the believe passion that this government mixed the colonial state in the sense that it colonized stone territory. it, you know, demonizes community that divides people. it is grossly incompetent in matters of administration. i mean, the incompetence he chose during the pandemic economy is endured rums, not enough is could deficit a stimulus given a high levels of inflation as well as unemployment and, and gross amount of power t. okay. widespread power, even the of mint is not recognizing. so it was the need of the are so that you've heard what term and so has been saying which is basically they believe that the
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presence of b j. p flattens, disintegration or of india. do you see this, marsha, something that could potentially undermine the your dominance of the political life since 2014 but from foremost i would really like to understand as to what the stand for. you know, the reason why congress has got so badly defeated that today it has a level 2 and 3 states live together form 42 looks of our feet in comparison to do or to be 540 p seat this year. look, summer has to be so that he kind of presents congress or so the only talking about girl what her was starting to like to say if far fetched, leave problem of the congress 1st night, bit of 5 factors because affected congress responsible footage complete disintegration. first it practiced minority kanellis you know
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in the name of secularism, what they were doing was basically a minority commitment and and that has been it and boy because that's been of back pay from the majority company. secondly, the obsession with the family has resulted in thought a come pick a washout off leadership. you see, for the leadership what is required as this should be given. we are in spite of we all know that her what mr are hold on be on, began the family per say to the is in terms of any she is assessed by dr. best it rejected. you know, we have seen g launches one after the other, and they're all fairly low. i mean, so as far as congress is concerned, well, good luck to them. their entirety. what is most disturbing is a party which once was the master party, mitchell taught for the freedom of this county to bay is identified with elements
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which are in the middle of the national interest, a long list that of grievances. sedan sure, but i have now to go to a fatima father. oh, what went wrong with a political party that was the dominant force in india for decades to a party that has been completely routed into successive relaxes of the federal and the state level. you know, full anything to certain completions effect in the especially the thought on the, on the spark that on the and the precisely, there was this nature of taking. what does not good, especially the traditional home is what does will been in the parking lot a stunningly us which to the need to be when it wasn't next. i mean that it happened. what have you to do with in the envelope disillusioned with his body. it's when you're on the top leaders on the they do not seem to need to reach out or does any more. uh, but more than that, of course,
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one can on in soon on his own what the need to be and on which has been a device in the door. again, one on one of these. that is, be the wedding many in the country and you die new day or to discuss that 8 or whatever the congress is doing is something going minority. communism would be seeing lead on and also just not actually the long as it said has been accused of coming on a day off i being of being a complicity. nice to me. neither with a yes. so noisy, ellen, deed of taking heart to this accusation that the be to be living at the god is that they do this kind of win win or get human. but one of the only nice is the just a lot in what it was you know, to do, you know, on these financing to just dying be fine the bonus because what it is, has been to minute opposition to be. but it's not for the opposition to be just be one who and what do you stand for that? i think that the commonest needs some floating to do and described was one of us.
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and so, if you would like to characterize yourself as a unifying force, as opposed to a, b, j, p, which you think is, could lead to the disintegration of india. but don't just see that indians are the same time a pretty much concerned that the congress has never been willing to generally address the problem. it has been facing for quite some time, corruption divisions and the need for the leadership to reinvent itself if he wants to stay the course. you know, india is a vibrant democracy. you know, it's a highly invitational democracy. it invites every one to partake in it. so you know, ups and downs and democracy electoral defeat successes are all a part of it. no, i am not trying to under my mind the challenges that of in the congress body. i'm not even saying that this is of most finest electron moment. i know the realities that exist, but i also know that this of this party, the b to b is a highly divisive force, which is trying to dare this country apart,
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which is not invoking, it's for donald past it. you know, it's composite culture are shared heritage the fact that the u. v. a unified in diversity. all this is completely forsaken and it's behaving completely like a, as i say, a of a colonial state to compete colonizing its own territory all the time. favoring a few sort of businessman so, so economically we have a lot of iniquity. i would define, you know, the problem is no, be of very clearing what our definition of property is and what our ideology is. in fact it's a, it's a fight of ideologies. of ideology is social justice, it is secularism. it is economic equity. it is empowerment for women. these other things we stand for, the border stood by them from the moment of its inception till now. and that fight continues. and it's it, this of this unite india march. i studied much, unprecedented march, a march with success. the b dippy cannot tolerate. it's been trying to snub it to
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insult it, to billet, belittle it from the moment it started it. all kinds of fake news propaganda is, is actually a testament to that kind of ideology. so than to listen to you talk in a while ago about what you consider to be the biggest problem with the congress party. let's stick just for a 2nd with a gentle perception about your own party, the b j. p, which is basically religious polarization. i'll try nationalist discourse widely seen as key components of your own ideology, which the congress says is a danger to the few sort of india and the reason why you could lose the lashes in the future. you she miss of any they're taught in cruise. i mean, is of a high phone words which has no meaning because it's what back by instances is if you can debate, you can be read language. you can be bit instance. i said they were practicing neither heard the lady saying no, no, the continued use of minority ism and minority. i'm really wanted to let me give
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you. let me give example just for the sake of william any one launching. if you don't mind, i just want to take a read on that. don't listen to me as the hello you've been talking to. i think i've been here by you've been talking to fatima. ah. okay, now, so things are just for the sake of moving forward. could you just address the question that i've asked you earlier about religious polarization and i'll try nationalist agenda. i don't think. yeah. i why. once you use these words, if she'll give me these specific instances, then i can talk about it saying that we are her but rising calmly. now, what are the instances to say that it has come in and pull up? all right, people talk about her and i see now and i see something which was ordered by the supreme court in or by the be government to said that was coming play session or hundreds ation of communities. i would think for it to be a turn to say that she
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a and act which talked about giving protection to the minorities in which a logical to critic state nibbling india not is that a scheme to we come in and then i really wish to understand what can little is, so when somebody says me, tape me, has been practicing tomlin politics or device of politics, you must come with their stance it so that then it can be given an answer to. how do you expect me to answer what a tardy to last me what? oh i statement which has this. i phone what i think john. ok. fatima? not rhetorical. so i will give you a bit of the, i will, you know, from the example i just gave you an example of the congress he does calling me my soldiers of india not getting beaten mom to try to eat. so can little let him actually is a perfectly given still a chance to, to, to, to answer your question here. no of so. so i should be, you know,
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there's not one. i mean, this is not just rhetoric. that is, his speech was, is a bounded india, and the people who indulge in its beat of the most vile kind. i mean, i can't even beat it here, allowed to get to be the did i mean? but if you're in the opposition, and if you say something critiquing the government, you're accused of anti naturalism. that is a blatant kind of judge against this government. the level of hate speech, the laws that are being made. you know, i cannot even repeat the kind of bizarre guy conceptual law. you're dividing people on the basis of dress on the basis of diet on the basis of language on the basis of that customs you, as you're speaking against that culture of their traditions. i mean, it goes on and on a day to day basis, read the paper every day. they are leaders from this right wing party, the seeing it. ok, the examples upon and b, this particular c is the most discriminatory law. and for the 1st time i'm, i'm really afraid to say a discriminant. the law has become a part of a constitution. it's never happened before. and it's terrible. it's ok. so you
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don't exec rebound? fatima a party. the has been in free fall since 2014, the congress party has to reinvent in itself in a way or present the people where the program that could potentially bring about something different, a genuine change. now the us father economies can said, which is one of the biggest key issues. a general sentiment is b, j. p is doing very well. so what do you think? should the congress pick the next campaign battle to be able to win the hearts and minds of people they want to ease in doing that in the country 2 days. incredible unemployment and joblessness, and that is something that as an equal across communities. so 8 is that a that congress is using? it is one of the top issues that is, i think in this month. but besides that, i think the one thing that the note on, on the leg, by the had 100 feet it off,
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is that organization any that is not a good that go potty was a just to be more and more delays and the i just on the sunni did, because you don't get with them, you don't get your 5, this is on. and so one is that the body needs to internally sit down and figured out, wow, do a work order or taking me. i do want to say at this point in this country, you ain't when do we need to in the biggest problem facing in get is communism it is. my daughter again is it, is it, it's all to be that the congress needs to come to the fussing before me wanted some examples. i gave specific examples. number one, being that a people who are convicted of being b, he's been with us. and i, they came out all day last month and the sticking b b cord. not a member of the party to sidney, be dippy. emily. i said that these are government,
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good sense guy need a come from us and our people who might be respected in value would be stored back on base. not a few was but convicts of lindsay on my death came out in a peeping. b member and game of guiding them and welcome to them. okay, let's not do that as in school day. i'm enough specific examples that are in boy, except if you want to do, i do that, then we can go on to some forces you having your time left here. so i would like to just explore other venue is here. so then so when you look at the history of the b j. p a particular talking from the time of us by you all the way towards at vonnie and also moody. and i'm, it's shar, there is this, that is this, that is this massive, back in the r s s, which is the umbrella organization of the grass roots movements that really made
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the party the way it is now. but people are saying that you could potentially be hijacked by this all true up populist, ultra nationalist movement, which is just making you a party one of the most, i'll try nationalist parties in this part of the, in the part of the world. did doomsday fears have no understanding of the other thing. so i had me didn't even comment on that because it is the shipment is a shipment of somebody's imagination. charter says is the involving that on the work? it's been doing a lot of shiva shave. i mean, it's been doing her philanthropy, it's been doing, but the service it has like windshield presence in terms of the projects it has undertaken for the benefit of people. so really i needed to answer that. okay. because sure, by north it was mentioned, i just want to give when you talk to back the people who are connected to what bundling this claim shavers in war. but up there have been given means debbie went
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out of the did not have words spoken against them and then you're talking about will your spinal meet me at mitch mitch was which to be in bad were dark. right. oh you put responsible for that modem. i had been laid out and you're talking would be just fine and think you just give them a fatima come ask you this other the the, the congress party has a new leader medical cause you the 1st time in 22 years. they has a new data outside from the, from the, from the london family on suddenly you're seeing a whole on the stepping in, isn't this something that is blowing alliance good, potentially create more confusion among people so many, i don't, i haven't been, i mean, literally like if the 781 says election id come to the community, i think this new york fest cost in this country doing that, send him eating the back even if you're just these unity but not the faculty this
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if you okay to nominate, i know that i sigma bang idea, i find a one kid again city guy is going slow down on the line. wonderful. let me be on the ground. finest way, someone se. okay. it is of the decision which my only need to go unsure. ah was, is it to bring our whole vandy back to the political landscape when his image has been severely damaged by the 20142019 performance? you know, he's, it's not that he's back and he was always there. i mean, this is a part of the political sort of landscape, but you do, you know, there is a social movement that it did, but he's not the only face of that movement. there are 135 people in that long march and they've been there for the last 108 days. he's a part of that movement, of course he's the face of it. he's the most popular. so member of that on march.
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so he's been interviewed but that that's not, it is no, eventually actually it's been on the book such a fascinating, complex story of the same time. but i promise you that one day we'll come back to this particular story and explore it further. fatima hun and show a visit, so dense from it. i really appreciate your insight. thank you. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just little dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside. you can also do the conversations with l 100 ha, sites 40 for me, my mother, and the entire team here and go ha ah ah
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