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this is inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i am hashem. i had bla, thousands, a supporters of the main opposition party in india, have beach, the capital u deli. they've been walking for more than 3 months to united the country and are planning to continue until february. among them is role gandhi, former party of president, and the great grandson of joy le, narrow, the country's 1st prime minister. some critics say the demonstration is a desperate move that is unlikely to gain any new support for the congress party pub. unlimited has this report for a deli oh,

the people have gathered here to join one of india's most powerful men. and that is well, gandhi, the dying of the indian national congress. he's walked home, the film does across india for nearly 3 months. he says his goal is to unite a country corner rise by the governing b j. b. this comes as the parties trying to revive it said the congress is down to one of its lowest tallies in parliament and is only governing 3 states. meanwhile, of governing bgp and crime is the marines modi remain unchallenged. and have enjoy unprecedented popularity, despite drawing criticism about their handling of the pandemic, the handling of the economy and shrinking space for descent, as well as shrinking right from minority groups. and the say that the call was in ability to challenge this criticism and hold, the government accountable has contributed to the bgp success. they say that in the upcoming election, that is about 16 months away, 2020 forwarding to

a horse general election. it will be smaller regional parties that will emerge as possible challenges to the bgp, probably middle for inside story. more than a century old, the indian national congress party or simply the congress party was the 1st war. the nationalist movement to immersion asia was still under occupation of the british empire. after independence in 1947, the party dominated politics in india. in 1952 in the 1st general election after independence, it swept to power in the national parliament. and most states just let us congress held control until 1977, once one of the largest parties in india. it now all new governance, 3 of india's $28.00 states, bought a jewelry out there. i'm mcquaid dell rather to go to a gang tell the people who are walking in the united india rally are the ones who support dividing the country. how can people who plot of destroying the country

speak of uniting it generally? how can the people, whose riley has the seeds of hatred, talk about opening shops of love ah, less ring in august's fault them a hun is a report of the quinn's a gentle years of the opinion website in india. she joins us from the deli, until average, it is national spokesperson for the indian national congress. he joins us by sky from calcutta. also joining us from the deli is to the unsure metal is a senior leader of the bahati, gena. it's a party. welcome to the program fatima this march. does it have any potential somehow to generate momentum for the congress party? or do you think it's too little too late? now, you know, the one criticism that has been leveled against the bonus, but you don't gundy more specifically in nike. so has been that he has been a passive edition. he is inconsistent in a position to be that if he goes on

a thought, what to do is he is absent and playing a role for the next day. and there was session that has been big or him involvement and understanding in and so in that limited sense, what the heart, what, what the, how to do any other head is being able to successfully achieve a sledge shifting that perception in that image and on the have you know, been visual wide enough, him speaking to grounds even then even though it's gaining during city or then he's blocking it. people are already people from a former i go to people who is even more indian. i joined the much it heads in that place, shifting perception, my where those visuals will be able to translate into anything and it's going to be

something we have to begin watching the 2024 elections or dislike before that or not to get on stage elections. just to get your own to stand or stood as decent. yes, 2019 or 540 even being in filing on this they will light the sticks, english congress and the b. g. who had a direct face, an ingle is the congress had been able to win only 15 c. i don't, i mean us his own on his best, you know, for me that had been on his national 24 day. so anybody in that and then the party would allow the team in a sectional image even be it was thought of the party of egon this lumped into was a go this is and but had something slightly less the more lising a status is that we have to be in what's going on. so this is all about perceptions. how did a thing can the congress party build bridges where the people india,

when the general sentiment is other leaders, particularly a whole gandhi is widely seen or someone who has always been disconnected. oh whoo . from the people of india will are jim um you know this despite unite india march has been unprecedented. it's been unparalleled. there's been nothing like it in the modern historic world. i mean from, from the moment it took off from the dip of india went, went for an upwards, right, really covering the backbone of it. yeah. there's been nothing like it, the crowds, the support, the organization that we've seen. and this was actually the call of history. i mean, we had to do it because of the divisive politics of the b. b. they were trying to deb this country apart, there was hatred, there was spewing of venom. there was antagonism, there was demonization of communities, there was majority in ism, so it was the need of the art to do it. but this is a non partisan march. i mean,

it has its roots in politics because this is a political party, but it's outcomes. its objectives are a political, it's a social movement. it's a moral and ethical movement. and the congress knows enough about that. and it's 100 and, you know, 38 old history. the guardian movement was a political, an ethical movement that was an anti collodion movement. and the believe passion that this government mixed the colonial state in the sense that it colonized stone territory. it, you know, demonizes community that divides people. it is grossly incompetent in matters of administration. i mean, the incompetency chose during the pandemic economies in doldrums. not enough. this could deficit a stimulus given that a high levels of inflation as well as unemployment and, and gross amount of power t. okay. widespread power, it's the admin is not recognizing, so it was the need of the are so than to have heard what term and so has been saying, which is basically they believe that the presence of b, j. p,

threatens disintegration or of india. do you see this, marsha, something that could potentially undermine the your dominance of the political life since 2014 but from, for more, for i would really like to understand as to what the stand for. you know, the reason why a congress has got so badly defeated that today it has the 11th and 3 states live together form 42 looks of our feet in comparison to do or to be 540 p seat this year. look, summer has to leave. so that actually kind of presents congress has to so the only talking about the of what the, we're starting to learn to say if far fetched the problem in the congress 1st night . there are 5 factors because affected congress responsible footage complete disintegration. first in practice,

minority kanellis you know in the name of secularism, what they were doing was basically a minority commitment and, and that has been it and boy because that's been of back pay from the majority company. secondly, the obsession with the family has resulted in thought a come pick a washout off leadership. you see, for the leadership what is required as this should be given. we are in spite of the peak, we all know that her what mr. are hold on be on, began the family per se to me. is in terms of any she is assessed by try best it rejected. you know, we've seen g launches one after the other and they're all free. look, i mean, so as far as congress is concerned, well, good luck to them. then becky, what is most disturbing is a party which once was the master party, mitchell taught for the freedom of this country. to bay is identified with elements

which are in the middle of the national interest, a long list that of grievances. so denture, but i have now to go to a fatima father. oh, what went wrong with a political party that was the dominant force in india for decades to a party that has been completely routed into successive relaxes of the federal and the state level? yeah, so let me do this. i can complete, as you said, in the, especially the thought it on the, on the spark that on the henley precisely, there was this nature of taking. what does not good, especially the traditional home is what does will been in the parking lot a stunningly us which to the need to be when it wasn't that, i mean that it happened. what have you to do? i went in the anglo disillusioned with spotty eats. when you're on the top leaders on the baby. not seeing the need to reach outdoor does any more. uh,

but more than that, of course, one can on in soon on his own what the need to be and one which has been a device in the door. again, one on a day. that is a be to wedding many in the country and you die who died or to discuss that 8 or whatever the communist is doing is something going minority. communism would be extremely long. and also just not actually the long as it said has been accused of coming on a day off. and i being of being a complicity. nice to me. nice with the yes. so noisy, ellen yee, of taking heart to this accusation that the be to be living at the goal is that they do this kind of win win or get human. but one of the only nice is the, just a lot in what it was you know, to do, you know, on these financing could just dying be fine the bonus because so what is has been defined in opposition to be, but it's more for the opposition to be just be one who and what do you stand for that? i think that the communist needs some so coaching to do and described was one of us

. and so if you like to characterize yourself as a unifying force, as opposed to a b, g happy, which you think is could lead to the disintegration of india. but don't just see that indians are the same time a pretty much concerned that the congress has never been willing to generally address the problem. it has been facing for quite some time, corruption divisions and the need for the leadership to reinvent itself if he wants to stay the course. you know, india is a vibrant democracy. you know, it's a highly invitational democracy. it invites everyone to partake in it. so you know, ups and downs and democracy electoral defeat successes are all a part of it. no, i am not trying to under my mind, the challenge is that of in the congress body. i'm not even saying that this is of most finest electron moment. i know the reality that exists, but i also know that this of this party, the b j b is a highly divisive force, which is trying to dare this country of thought,

which is not invoking. it's for donald past it. you know, it's composite culture are shared heritage the fact that the u. v. a unified in diversity. all this is completely forsaken and it's behaving completely like a, as i say, a of a colonial state to complete colonizing its own territory all the time. favoring a few sort of businessman so, so economically we have a lot of iniquity. i would define, you know, the problem is no, be of very clearing what our definition of property is and what our ideology is. in fact it's a, it's a fight of ideologies. of ideology is social justice, it is secularism. it is economic equity. it is empowerment for women. these other things we stand for people just to buy them from the moment of its inception till now. and that fight continues and it's it, this of this unite india march. i studied much, unprecedented march, a march with success. the b dippy cannot tolerate. it's been trying to snub it to

insult it to billy, be little it from the moment it started it. all kinds of fake news propaganda is, is actually a testament to that kind of ideology. so than to of listen to you talk in a while ago about what you consider to be the biggest problem with the congress party. let's stick just for a 2nd with a general perception about your own party, the b j. p which is basically religious polarization, alternation on his discourse, widely seen as key components of your own ideology, which the congress says is a danger to the few sort of india. and the reason why you could lose the lashes in the future. you, she miss lenny, they're taught in cruise. i mean is of a high phone words which i've not meaning because it's what back by instances is if you can be made you can give a language. you can be bit instance. i said they were practicing nile. heard the lady saying no, no, the communities of minority ism and minority. i'm really wanted to let me give you

. let me give example just for the sake of will you, anyone launching? if you don't mind, i just want to take a read on that. don't forget me as the hello you've been talking to. i think i've been here by it. been talking to fatima. ah. okay. now, so things are just for the sake of moving forward. could you just address the question that i've asked you earlier about religious polarization and i'll try nationalist agenda. i don't think. yeah. i why. once you use these words, if she'll give me these specific instances, then i can talk about it saying that we are her good, rising calmly. now, what are the instances to say that it has come in and pull up will right? people talk about her and i see now and i see something which was ordered by the supreme court in ard. why did he just begun to said that was come into play session or book reservation of communities?

i would think for it to be a turn to say that she a, an act which talked about giving protection to the minorities in which a logical topic state nibbling india, not his data seemed to be coming to him. then i really wish to understand what can little is. so when somebody says me, tape me, has been practicing come live politics or device of politics. you must come with their stance it so that then it can be given an answer to. how do you expect me to answer what a tardy to last me what? oh i statement which has this i thought would be john. ok. fatima? not rhetorical. i will give you a bit of the i will, you know, from the example i just gave you an example of the congress he does calling me i soldiers of india letting me go on to charlie. so can little lag in ashley is a perfectly give until a chance sir to, to, to answer your question here. no of so. so hush him, you know,

there's not one. i mean, this is not just rhetoric. that is, his speech was, is a bounded india, and the people who indulge in its beat of the most vile kind. i mean, i can't even beat it here. are allowed to get to be the did i mean? but if you're in the opposition, and if you say something critiquing the government, you're accused of anti naturalism. that is a blatant kind of judge against this government. the level of hate speech, the laws that are being made. you know, i cannot even repeat the kind of bizarre guy conceptual laws. you're dividing people on the basis of dress on the basis of diet, on the basis of language on the basis of their customs. you, as you are speaking against the culture of the bear traditions, i mean it goes on and on a day to day basis, read the paper every day. they are leaders from this right wing party, the seeing it. okay? the examples upon and b, this particular c is the most discriminatory law. and for the 1st time i'm, i'm really afraid to say a discriminant. the law has become a part of a constitution. it's never happened before and it's terrible. it's ok,

so you don't exec abound fatima a party that has been in free fall since 2014 the congress party has to reinvent in itself in a way or present the people with a program that could potentially bring about something different, a genuine change now the us father economy is concerned, which is one of the biggest key issues. a general sentiment is b, j. p is doing very well. so what do you think? should the congress pick the next campaign battle to be able to win the hearts and minds of people economies in doing that, in the country, the days included was unemployment and joblessness. and that is something that as an equal across communities. so 8 is that a that congress is using? it? is one of the top issue is i think in this month i've been saying that i think the one thing that the note on, on the leg,

by the has 100 feet it off is that organization really? that is not a good that you're populous just to be more and more delays and the i just on the sunni did because you don't get, well, then we don't get your, this is on. and so one is that the body needs to internally sit down and figured out, well, do a work order or taking me. i do want to say at this point in this country, you ain't when do we need to in the biggest problem facing in yet is communism it is. my daughter again, is it, is it, it's all to be that the going this needs for going good. the fussing before me wanted some examples. i get the specific examples. number one being that a people who are convicted of being b, he's been with ice, they came out all day last month and the singing b cord, not a member of the party to sidney, be dippy. emily. i said that these are government,

good sense guy, a people who might be respected in value would be thought back, be gone, base, not a few was but convict of lindsay on why death came out and i came out to be members and gang of guiding them and welcome to them. okay, let's not do that as in school day. i'm enough specific examples that are in boy, except if you want to do, i do that, then we can go on to some forces you having a 2 time left here. so i would like to just explore other venue is here. so then so when you look at the history of the b j. p. a particular talking from the time of us by you all the way towards at vonnie and also moody. and i'm, it's shar, there is this, that is this, that is this massive back in the r s s which is the umbrella organization. the grass roots movements that really made the party the way it is now. but people are

saying that you could potentially be hijacked by this all true up populist, ultra nationalist movement, which is just making you a party one of the most. i'll try nationalist parties in this part of the, in the part of the world doomsday fears. have no understanding of the other things . so i need him to have him come in. don't back because it is the shipment is a shipment of somebody's imagination. charter says is involved in that on the work, it's been doing a lot of shiva shave. i mean it's been going her philanthropy, it's been doing public service. it has like once a presence in terms of the projects it has undertaken for the benefit of people. so really, i mean to answer that ok, because sure by north s was mentioned, i just want to give when you talk to back the people who are connected to what burdening this claim, shavers in barbara,

they have been given beans. debbie went out of the ged, not worthy spoken against that, and then you're talking about will your spinal meet me at mitch mitch was which to be in bad were just right. oh you put responsible for that. mobile had been laid out and you're talking on beaches fun and sing me just give them a fatima. come ask you this other the, the, the congress party has a newly elidah america's own casual, the 1st time in 22 years. they has a new data outside from the, from the, from the london family on suddenly you're seeing a whole, andy stepping in, isn't this something that is bloating alliance could potentially create more confusion among people so many, i didn't, i hadn't been, i'm a little bit like it was a he come to the community, we didn't have your 1st class in this country doing that, send him eating the back even if you know just visually but not the faculty this if

you okay to nominate any and on that i signal bagging idea. i find a one kid again sitting guy is boy the only going wonderful. let me be on the dom. kindest way. someone se. okay. it is for the decision with my own business. go unsure. ah wise, is it to bring our whole vandy back to the political landscape when his image has been severely damaged by the 20142019 performance? you know, he's, it's not that he's back and he was always dead. i mean, this is a part of the political sort of landscape, but you do, you know, there is a social movement that he'd be dd but he's not the only face of that movement. there are 135 people in that long march and they've been there for the last 108 days. he's a part of that movement, of course he's the face of it. he's the most popular. so member of that on march.

so he's been interviewed, but that's not, it is no, it has been on the book such a fascinating, complex story of the same time. but i promise you that one day we'll come back to this particular story and explore it further fatima hun and show a visit, so dense from it. i really appreciate your insight. thank you. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just little dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also the conversations with our 18540 for me . my mother and the entire team here, and i for now, ah

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