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brasilia. as all the headlines, one use her off the inside story to stay with us. as 2020 jews with we were slack on the major stories picture tell. julie now does even through series of in depth reports, looking back at this year and to head to 2020, to the world player of the century. football great pele has died leaving an unprecedented legacy and having inspired millions worldwide. as football is the most popular sport in the world, how will he be remembered? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm homage and jerome,
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the king of football. that's what brazilians called him. they're observing 3 days a morning after pele died on thursday following a long battle with cancer. the 82 year old played a crucial role as football rose to become the most popular sport on the planet. pele played in for world cups, and was the only player in history to win 3. but his legacy stretched far beyond his hall of trophies and record of remarkable goal scoring. as a black man, pele rose to the status of national treasure in a country with a deep history of slavery and legacy of segregation that persists. he won fans across all continents of the world. pele will be laid to rest in his adopted hometown of santos. as monica in ocoee of reports, phyllis museum in santos has never been so full since people heard the news that he had died on thursday. crowds have been gathering here $600.00 people per hour. the museum says to see the legacy and the history of this man that has become
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a legend not only in football. now santos itself is preparing itself to pay a last tribute to pay let his body will be brought over here in the early hours of monday. there will be a 24 hour were wake at the santo stadium where he played for so many years and the public will go and visit them. we spoke earlier to his barber told us that he was expecting to go there to say good bye to ed, so i don't this not to pay less because according to him and that will live on forever after the wake on tuesday, there will be a funeral it will be a close ceremony for the family, bella had already decided where he wanted to be buried. he had acquired a space on the 9th floor of a vertical cemetery overlooking the sancho stadium, that he loved so much. pallet's global fame was cemented by the tours. he went on
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with his santos team to route his career. his fondly remembered in africa. in nigeria, it's long been claimed that his arrival in 1969 resulted in a 48 hour cease fire in an ongoing civil war. fellow actually got on foot bullied. so you're like a war leader. we'll want to give other charges give you will. i mean you all sat there for a boy without, without, without, without boots on it, he will do it resolutely. what callback a thing. i do what you can play with with making love for boys that. oh yeah. yeah, he doesn't for jojo. see, phillip lee. ah, you love fully low, triple play. you e brand, it boy. he give you, give. what if you live pele, spend most of his career with santos in his homeland, despite big money offers from europe. he began a career of relentless goal, scoring at the age of 15 by 17 pele was a world cup winner. he would inspire brazil to 2 more triumphs in 1962 and 970. by
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the end of it all, he'd scored nearly $1300.00 goals that's recognized as a guinness world record, although disputed by many because it includes friendly matches. but pele was remembered for a life that extended beyond the football field. he became a symbol of hope and inspiration to countless people, while seemingly exempt from criticism on a pitch pele faced, much for his closeness to authoritarian figures. from 1995 to 1999 pillow went on to become minister for sports and once hoped to become president. ah, for more on all this i'm joined by our guests in madrid is fernando callous brazilian sports journalists for reuters. fernando has covered 3 world cups in leeds is james varley. he is a communications consultant and founder of varley media. james is the grandson of britishness photographer john barley, who took the famous shot of pillow and bobby, more than $970.00 fif, a world cup. and in mar, say is my home as i football journalist, covering africa a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us today. a friend let me start with you today. pele,
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of course, wasn't just the symbol of a sport. he was also the symbol of a country, tell us about how important he is to brazil and to brazilians, and about the depth of sadness that brazilians feel over his death when there was one brazil. before and after dela is the main reason why brazil was war, white famous because he, he and mohammed ali, they were the 2 biggest sport stars in their area. there was a, he was the 1st global superstar, and it was so important for our country. and we're building our, i don't know our, our identity, you know, our identity is directly connected with music and with football and most of it because of that. so he was a genius inside the beach. he was a great gracious. no. gina is because he was always smiley, only treating people so well. he was an investigator of brazil all over the word.
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he has never for letters were so meaningful when so important and so well recognize that his face is until a it's, it's well no whatever he, you know, you see the portal for that. and i saw you reacting, smiling along with a lot of what to fernando was saying there he was talking about the fact that pele really became an ambassador all around the world. of course, you know, he, he transcended the game. you posted a thread on twitter in which you talked about pill a in africa, and you said that he was always revered there for what he represented. what did pele come to represent in africa? it before i touch on that, let me just piggyback on what some of what fernando was saying now go ahead, racist, smiling, connecting with people the people's champion, you know, and he's right to liken him to mohammed ali. and that's because when pele was emerging, you know, in the late 19 fifties, the early 1960 s,
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it was really coinciding with the democratization of television across the world. and the 1st, you know, televised live televised world cups. and so he really coincided with the beginning of the television era, and that's why one of the reasons why he was shot of a sudden into, you know, people's living rooms in africa and asia and south america, north america. and he's young, he's black, his brash, his playful, he's unapologetic, i think that's what a lot of africans drew what were drawn to. they didn't love that about him. you know, they love the simple of what pele represented. and so, as at the same time, on our continent, in africa, for example, there were many decomposition and independence movements around the same time in the late 19 fifties and early $960.00 s. and what a lot of these countries did is they were looking for ways to legitimize themselves . how can we really prove that we're an independent country that's was worth worth it being respected. one of the things it was seen by celebrities over and pele was so gracious against these fernando's words. when he travelled all over the place
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you traveled to jerry and morocco, egypt, mozambique, sanibel, gannon edge area all over the place. always willing to take pictures of people shaking hands with some of the greatest leaders, but also smiling with the children. and i think that's why he was so beloved in africa. james, you know we spoke when we introduced you about this, a personal connection that your family has a with pele. more specifically, this iconic photograph that your grandfather took of pele and england football hero bobby, more swapping shirts and smiling at each other during the 1970 world cup. tell us about what this photo has come to symbolize why it's so important. i think it's come to symbolize a heck of a law, especially in the sporting sphere. i think it symbolizes as sportsmanship. new all respects between the 2 players and the guys. i talked about pele, not only just being a great football, a great humanitarian. and i think that really comes across in this photograph and that there are so much i think the same which symbolism in the shop. it's a,
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it's pal, a, the greatest, the greatest player role time, bobby, more arguably, one of the greatest defenders of all time. you got england which of course back a we like to call the home of football and brazil probably the greatest and most successful for. ready nation, i'm appellate himself said about the phonograph that he thought he was very in poland had gone around the world because it showcases respect and sportsmanship. and these are the values that you need to pass to the next generation of players. and i think pele was the perfect exponent of that. he passed sportsmanship and you know, being gracious and being a great humanitarian on to the next generation. nothing. that's why so beloved around the world. fernando you were talking before about the great significance of pele and all that. he symbolizes in brazil and around the world. i want to talk about one specific component of that. that is a fact that here's a, a black football player from a very poor background in brazil becoming such a huge success. what did that mean to a country like brazil where,
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where there has been so much racism so much classism. what did it mean for the marginalized communities there and, and also what kind of discrimination did play face when, when he was coming up in the sport? i think that it's amazing how my her so talk about the air, his impact in africa because we are talking about a 17 year old kid from a very fourish childhood, a black man that became the face of sports all over the world. and it's any of the time that most of black africa, most of africa, it was under colonization steel. you know, so it's, it was so important. what he meant for many of the, the not like the bat, little black people in brazil that from the african diaspora. and all because it was the 1st time that ethic ethnic minorities saw one of their own. you know,
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like being this very successful person by his own terms. so it was the sim, bow off of the lapse for, you know, like being a black man in being the face of sports all over the word. it's, it's, it's so remarkable because people just not like starting to relate it because of him, you know, and it was the message have been, he's sandy and all a being this gracious man that it was the genius inside the beach. but it was also in the like this, he was a beast inside the be, she was the most powerful. and at the same time, the most technical and most dominating player in the beach. so the message that he sent to, you know, it was so important only for brazil, but for black people and pro epic my on it is all over the work. so i think that's very important. you know, because it was a time that even, you know, like it,
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people were starting to realize what racism was. you know, there wasn't this really like today. you know, i think it's very easy to i maybe i see a lot of people like judging you know, like, and criticizing by 21st century standards. you know, in a find that it was completely different than today. i think the lab and the symbols, there wasn't a thing about brazil and the fifty's and there was really point. there was a lot of racism inside football in brazil because on the black layers there were there were always referred for being lazy, not emotionally stable plan. got. he showed this 2 guys over here. they started on the bench on, on, on 1958 and then big became 2 of the best players in the words, you know, at that time. and so air, all of because of bob was there was the brazilian go, can you go there was a black layer then he was, he made a mistake on the 950 work up where brazil lost in america. now, you know,
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so it was so important to get races at that time because brazil was the 1st theme in sports. there was a multicultural team, there was successful all over the world. the message was so important at that time . it might or we're talking right now in this part of the discussion about, you know, issues of racism, how, how pele dealt with that. you know, the fact is that he didn't talk much about racism throughout his career and, and he was criticized for that as, as fernando was saying. why didn't he speak about it more? and how disappointing was that to, to his fans around the world. look to be completely honest. i don't think you know, the, the fans. but i can all julia are back in san via even understood portuguese at the time to listen to interviews. here's given, you know, in the 60 seventy's and eighty's, you know, what his positions were with the, you know, into governments or with the other politicians. i think when it comes to figures
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like this, people sort of divorce the symbol and the man and they tend not to judge the men because they don't. first of all, don't know what he's saying. they don't know what anything about brazilian politics . they don't know anything about that, but it is what they do know is what they see on the television set. again, they see like we've been saying, you know, this young, black, playful, unapologetic brilliance footballer that they can relate to and who is willing to take time out of his day to come and visit dumps. i know he was being paid on the strips, but just let's pick for a moment. let's compare you know, pele mohammed ali, the stars of the 1960 is to some of the modern superstars that we have today. think about christian are, and i'll go are leona messy coming in doing a tour of africa and you know, spending, you know, weeks on and meeting people and shaking hands. it's just the starting today, or so inaccessible. it become, become conglomerates that become businesses in and of themselves. they become per, they don't have personalities anymore. and it's not
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a criticism because it's unfair to expect people to act like pele in all the and the size of the 19 sixties and seventies because they didn't even have their own personal lives after they belong to the world. and that's what i think you're seeing celebrated now, is that people from africa, from asia, people like james, everybody has a personal story of that time. they met pelley for that time. their uncle's friend met pelley and what he said. and some of the stories are true and some of the stories aren't true, but it doesn't even matter what matters is that people want to know him. that's why the, some of the stories are made up. they want to know who they want to make up. and invent, you know, stories that, that he might upset or might not have said, and that's just an expression of love. people loved him because of what he represented. james pelley, of course, was an incredible athlete. he was so praised for his creativity for his improvisation on the pitch. he was seen as an innovator, wasn't he? i mean, how did his style of play change the game? i think the great thing about pele when you, when you look at the stats,
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when you look at his starts, it's just incredible. the number of goals he school, the number of assess that he scored. but the thing that stands out for me is that he did everything on a football page and he did it brilliantly left for right for he was great in the air. he could run a people and also as well we, i, you know, you look at the old footage of the way that he, the way that he kicked the ball even because it was different back then, you know, the pictures weren't as good. the football was a lot heavier and to see him being this incredible figure back in the you know, the late fifties in the sixty's. if you look on some of the old footage and it looks like he's playing a different game compared to the rest of the other players of the time. and that for me as why, you know, i've always considered him to be the greatest. he's the whole round greatest player, you know, my, my grandfather, he was, you know, looking to see him in action a number of times and he covered a heck of a lot of football every career. he said there was no, there was any won't play this down for him and, and it was pa, i think, you know,
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play as play as like that. take the game to a new level and in a way ahead of that time. and i think ha, ha, would have been the greatest in any era. and he took the game to a different level that, you know, we've, we've never really seen since. i don't think there's a player even even messy over now that now i don't think there's a player to compare to him that can do everything. absolutely. brilliantly. fernando appellate played for 2 and a half seasons, i believe in the 1970 s for the new york cosmos. how, how much did he help? popularize football in the united states in the country where it wasn't all that popular and, and did that change us sports history because a lot of people draw direct line between pele coming to the u. s. and then the us ultimately hosting the world cup in the ninety's. yeah, for sure. for sure. he was the main reason about the football to they is a big deal in and that states and in the entire north america. because of you are
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cosmo and all because of him being at that time thinking about you know what this story is, it's amazing. oh he barry, the thing is that he was thinking about retirement and then he got some thought that he lost all his money because of bad financial advisors. you know, so he had to, to, to, to find a way to, to make all of the money again, you know, it was crazy to think about the happier, the leg up, or i don't know, 20 years of the career that he was broke actually. so he went through to the states and he created this huge legacy that people all in fuel today. they reverence him. you know, and i think that the thing about the leg i today a friend was sent me a link from this big friendly game from 1990 that i, i completely forgot and we all saw it live in brazil because it's such a big deal. philip played in and this team at all, it was
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a brazilian see me against the rest of the word team. mark of a boston was playing a lot of you know like this great footballers present employer in 1990. if you look at the play, you know, and then we, we just knew that he offered his self with 45 years old to play for brazil in the 1986 work up. so he was this huge, actually i thought i saw this article in the new york times this week, and i was calling him the football, big bank. and i thought that it was brilliant because, you know, sports, they evolve constantly. you know, it's not, it's, i think it's fair to, to compare players from today from c 50 year ago because it's a completely different game. but eh, they involve constantly but they have to start somewhere. you know, and i think that when you, when you see the, the, the final, the work up with the embodied the new generations air being compared to air. massy
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they'll, they know like that the end of the, his generation in the are both being compared to pillar. you know, so they let is the mo, the, you know, pallet's their references and feel to day of water put bowler needs to be in. we were talking about a player from of 70 years ago. so i think his just remarkable how bella, is this, the big banga for or, you know, he is the reference until today. he's the mold until today. and i think that bad in self is just remarkable because we're talking about ah, today in the 21st century, this guy's year just this supreme athletes. no. so i think that that's one of the most amazing things about delay until today. he's still the reference of what a football man needs to be. myra, i saw you reacting, i quite a bit to fernando was saying there's, i'm gonna give you a chance to jump in. i just wanted to ask you,
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i mean pele really believed in the power of football to connect people across racial societal national lines and, and he was really able to do that wasn't me. he said when he, when he went on the ass and the 1st african tore in the 960 is that it changed him, but it also changed the world san sorry, it also change the world. the way the world saw him, and he really transformed these countries when he went there. so, i mean there, there are just so many legends i can tell you about his time in africa. it's said again, this is from 967 to 970. there was the nigerian civil war between the offer that was trying to came proclaim an independent republic. it was said that when pele arrived in nigeria and played a matching in lagos against the nigerian national team, there was a 48 hour ceasefire. now in his 2006 autobiography, he said, i'm not really sure that it's true. but what is for sure is that the whole country shut down to watch, play, play, and invention. 65. in algeria, he came to the program to play 2 matches, one on the 17th of june,
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and one on the 20th of june and 965. they played the 1st match on the 17th of june and or honor. and when they were going to play a 2nd match and a capitol of algiers, there was a qu data and the minister of defense that carried out the credit card did it because the whole country was shut down, focusing on a football matching. and you could overtake the government. i mean, really when you talk about being a hero of, of the people, people all over the place they were. and it was very in the 19 fifties and sixties to get 607080000 people in a stadium. and he was doing that consistently it. busy all over the world, not just in brazil, not just in europe everywhere. james, even during the world cup here in doha, when, when news was hitting, the pele was in hospice care. and that, and the, perhaps he was near the end of his life. people were expressing so much concern. i mean, he's not just considered one of the greatest football players of all time. he, he's considered one of the greatest athletes of all time. right? absolutely. yeah, great football, a great athlete. and like i said before,
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great humanitarian and just going back to a few of the points that were raised there about, you know, the power of football really and play appreciating the power football and the power that he had as the greatest football or on the planet you know, we saw during cut off 2022 in doha, for football is the greatest unifying tool in the world. it brings people together . i, like i said before it's 11 versus 11 on the page. it doesn't matter where you're from. it doesn't matter. your culture, your religion, your background, how much money you have, it's it's, it's a level playing field and i think have a extolled those virtues, better than, than anybody else in the world. you know, we, like i said, you know, about the cost of 2022 again, it was about, you know, bridging the gap between east and west, you know, uniting cultures. and i think pele was the human embodiment of that. and i think that's one of the reasons why the such now pouring of of grief now and you know,
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such concern during the tournament and yeah, he's, he's just, i think the, the reaction to is that just shows what, what he means to people across the world. and to people from every single culture, every single religion and background it's, it's, it's, it's wonderful to see the outpouring of grief. all right, well, we have run out of times. we're going to have to leave the discussion there. thanks so much to all of our guests. fernando callous, james barley and my her miss. i and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website of 0 dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also turn the conversation on twitter. handle is have a j inside story. mean how much i'm doing the whole team here like ah, i studied football when i was 7 years old. i didn't have that much money,
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so i play in one big room and i think the bowl to the all that was the one of the best play of the school. and so my brother said, don't you up football because i know you reach something. the last of our father bought situation. some charity people help us. so i went to the school of football and after the one year from my c p, i went to take her on. and then after 2 months from 15, i go to the national name. my goal is to play for our national team in afford up to reach these places, do house to be a strong. you have to work hard. we lose a nice time. a lot of friends, family, but they know what i'm doing. i know i'm going my name was to be a basketball player that will now at each year and talk to l. just a bit of
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