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hello, welcome to the program. i'm hashim a hell butler, the un general assembly and of the year 2022 by passing a resolution calling all the international court of justice to give an opinion on the legal consequences of israel's occupation of palestinian territory. the un assembly voted 87 to 26 with 53 up sanctions to support the motion. the last time the i c. j gave an opinion on the conflict between these rallies on the policy is, was in 2004 ruling israel separation war was illegal. the top un court deals with disputes between states. and although it's rulings are binding, the court itself has no power to enforce them. policy officials have welcome the u . s. decision, though often years agency reported presidential spokesman, now been aboard dina, saying the vote is evidence of the whole world's support for our people. and there
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in, in the interval historic, a white and the hamis spokesman are this to say about the resolution wasn't on how carly, on long, you know, since a hold of this resolution is one of a long series of decisions issued by all international institutions. regarding the palestinian issue, none of which lead to a practical implementation on the ground some to see what was the important thing here is that as long as the united states of america deals as a partner with israel in its aggression against the palestinian people. and as long as washington provides a full cover for the occupation within these international institutions, all these resolutions will remain at mia ink on paper. meanwhile, is rarely a politician and can as if member victor lieberman expressed his opinion on twitter saying, a despicable decision there must be roundly condemned was passed of the un. this is further proof that this state of israel at the moment of truth will not be able to
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trust the international institutions. this decision is the epitome of hypocrisy and injustice. ah, let's begin our guests in west jerusalem, daniel said, man and is very a tony specializing in the geo politics of jerusalem. his also communist for foreign policy, alamba la, nor odor columnist and political analyst and a london below editor of, of digest and director of the golf matters. dot com you consultancy. welcome to the program. daniel, the united nations general assembly asked the international court of justice for an advisory opinion on israel as occupational policy and territories wise israel consent israel is concerned because official
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israel, and much of the is really popular is in a deep state of occupation, denial, occupation. what occupation? we are ruling over and other people that palestinians adjust their will addition metastasized in occupation and we ignored the fact that it even exists. our you an ambassador or don and our prime minister sion, how do you abuse us of being an occupying power? well, is really supreme or the is really early, also say we're occupying and i mean most of the special. busy israel rejects the fact of occupation, which is exactly why we need resolutions such as this. israel will end occupation or occupation will be the end of us. and the message
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sent by this un resolution is get real stuff ignoring reality. oh, no, it says of this is widely seen as more than just a diplomatic victory for the policy is, are for many, many years of a major setback particular for the policy authority look, i think there are 2 things that are happening with this resolution on the one hand, the less than in are going on a very consistent pass of legal accountability using all the tools available in the international system despite international resistance to kind of expose what the political reality years. which is that these really occupation has long passed the the legal parameters defined in international law
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for occupation. and it has more to, into a colonial enterprise that has no intention of leaving. and that have legal ramifications on the international community. that is, you know, kicking and screaming and really trying, it's best to dissuade him from going down that route. on the other hand, the this revolution and what will be in front of the i, c, j is a reality that will have this international system. that for one will have to kind of spell out what, what the facts on the ground are, what be a legal obligations arising from those facts are and kind of leave the actors that have been hypocritical and employed double standards for so long with very few often but to face the reality so far, we've seen them resisting legal qualification of
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b israeli practices as apartheid. we've seen them rejecting also other legal scholars who say that what, what we have is not occupation. it is called the subtler colonialism. and now the highest legal a body in international law will have a say and the palestinians will be able to kind of laid out there for the world and say, well, show me what you've got now, are you, are you really going to play by the rules are you going to spell it out and say that palestinians are excluded from those rule that the effects are crossroads? i believe, bill for quite some time. the policy is understood that the, the, the dynamics of decision makings or organizations as, as the security council, quite different from the united nations general assembly. and this is why sometimes they took most of the battles to the general assembly. now when you look at the vote itself, 87 votes in favor, 24 against 50. if we abstaining could,
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if we are to read into this, could this be an indication that there is a momentum building to words, more of a pro policy and sentiment here? well, i think, i think there is a momentum building. however, i think we need to apply a bit of caution on this. this decision will take some time to play out as we know these things move slowly. the break down the voting, i think was interesting to look at the countries that abstained. sweden was one of the standards for france, netherlands, abstained, and also in the countries has been instinctively wooing with the abraham's accord. they all voted for the resolution. that's the bahrain is don, u e. of course you had the egyptians and the jordanians voting and support.
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and the saudis, so you could say, well of course that's to be expected on the other hand as well as invested a huge amount of effort in securing support from these authoritarian regimes. the people in the streets that they still support. allison in athenian cause. so this is going to cause i think, some, some issues, some tension on that front. of course, the fact that the americans, i'm a canadian on the machine that the canadian voted against it. to be honest with you . these are these follow fairly predictable patterns. and there are no surprises there when you think that the fury with which the israelis responded is a measure of this time that perhaps this, this boat has had more bite then and then, and they wanted to see. and they'd worked harder over the past year or so to try and get more and more countries on their side. and i think the number of extensions also speaks as well to difficulties ahead,
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particularly given the extreme right wing nature of this new netanyahu government. daniel, this decision, what kind of a challenge is that? he posed for a prime minister bennett benjamin netanyahu took office thursday as the head of the most far right government in the history of israel. by haul. indications enough to now is going to make the work of those who should portage this resolution much easier and make a v. i n a job of those who opposed this resolution much more difficult upkeep keisha in this a noun denies the existence of occupation at precisely the time when occupation is metastasized. he's dumpling,
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down on it. there's an indication that this government is unaware of the malibu stations. of occupation and is unwilling to move in order to ended. ironically, those who are supporting the resolution, calling or in the court to examine this, are doing a great service to the state of israel. like, compelling us to face reality. those who oppose this resolution are akin to a wealthy uncle who are subsidizing our crocodile option to ask it patients and settlements, instead of say, taking that same money and sending us off to the rehab. we need, we israel reed, to confront the reality of occupation and its implications for us and the
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palestinians. know what kind of the palestinians hope to achieve in the future. knowing that if the i c j is going to be asked to provide an advisory opinion, the legal consequences of israel occupations settlement, and annexation. knowing that this government in particular, has ministers of widely been promoting the expansion of the settlements. what, what happens next? what this government is, is that has adopted annexation as official policy, not just of the look. this is a long asked and there is no easy asked the palestinian freedom of palestinians. understand that very well. they understand that countries, even those who present themselves as champions of international law, have long resisted to employing that international law to realize the
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self determination, which is their obligation under international law. having said that, employing these tools and also indispensable. because at the end of the day, you cannot tell peoples of the south if you will, that there is an international rule based system that they must adhere to it, but they will be held accountable to its rule. while palestinians are excluded from this system, they are excluded from the recourse for remedy, including the i, c, j. and while countries dodge of their obligations in live with international law. once the i c j renders its opinion and it is expected to spell out what the facts are, which is that we have a settler colonial regime that is illegal under international law. and countries are obliged to take action by way of sanctioned by way of boycott. by way of,
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of suffering at normal ties with a country that is for all intents and purposes, upper state, and that will have its own momentum, and israel and its benefactors, israel and the occupation white washers will have very little cover if you will, for their ongoing denial of palestinian rights and for their ongoing complicity really is rarely crimes, including annexation and persecution, and are quite bill if you look at the case this case. in particular, as with all cases presented to the international court of justice, it can be resolved either by a supplement between the 2 parties or one of the parties dropping the case or ultimately a verdict by the i c g. how do you see the path? you said earlier is going to be a complicated back do use. do you think that there's going to be
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a level of political leverage here or political, influenced by the united states of america in particular, to try to ensure that we're not going to see anything that is going to condemn israel? well, i think nurse put her finger on that is that this case will cause a great deal of public measurement at the extent to which israel has colonized the west bank, the extent to which it is invoked in apartheid policy. and i think to the extent to which it is prepared to go in it now scared to go to sacrifice is really democracy in pursuit of this extreme agenda. i. i don't see either side, backing down i. i think that there will be
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a political leverage. we don't know yet whether the democrats will win next time around. it's very hard to say, certainly, if the republicans come back, i would expect that their support from that now would be very, very strong. and of course, support the already has with them by ministration is very strong. but, but i do think that it becomes increasingly threadbare. this claim that israel is the only democracy in the region, a democracy that appears prepared to institute an override clause. so that decisions by the train court will be overturned by a vote and asset. this is a democracy that is brought in racist than criminals, and homer folks of the worst order in order to keep mister netanyahu out of prison. so i think that it's going to become increasingly difficult for israel's friends. and there are many to sustain support for such
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a damaged and damaging regime. this regime that netanyahu is put in place. and i think it will unfortunately be a very hard here for the palestinians. i think it's going to be a hard year for israel as well, and i think is a case, i think he's going to have to get worse before they get better. but i think that it is more vulnerable now than it was before. this was taken done ill. israel's historical allies have been saying for quite some time that at least in the past, there was this a procedure to have liberals, reformist, within governing coalition. that would give us a sense of diversity within the israeli political landscape. now it's a group of ultra orthodox political party is coming together and benjamin that anyhow. so what's next full for him?
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what are we expecting him to, to do in the, in the near future, given this decision by the united nations general assembly. i believe that we are not only in the situation of the, i don't know where the situation of the unknowable. there will be. those who are tempted to say, oh, you will, bert with an attorney out and judge him. what he does, we have shared values and shared interests. me and break. no good is going to come from this government. this government does not share values and does not share interest with the liberal democracies and with those who are concerned with palestinian rights. this is an, it's tempting to say, well,
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the give it time. it may not be as bad as books. that's true. it won't be as bad as it looks, it will probably be worse. we just do not go how we are deep in the period of the unknowable and we have to gert our launch and prepare ourselves or a new norm moving the diary or even before the government, a occupation was becoming apologetic and aggressive and at times fatal lethal oh, we will see more of that and we have to see how does that work? how can this government be contained engaged, and how can we bring before the years really public, the perils of perpetual occupation? not only to palestinians, but her cells to our children were grandchildren. not over the last 2
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years. i mean, policies have been saying that the basically have been betrayed by there are neighbors of that been betrayed by the international community and most particularly by the united states of america. if you look at this particular case, there's a chance is going to go to a verdict, but then as you know, the ice, she has no power of enforcement. which means that the policy is, will have to whatever happens to go to the security council. but that's where you have another problem which is basically the policy is consider the general it does cause a counsel to be a major stumbling block, an or an entity which has never been sympathetic to was about us is you're right, but i don't think that you know, going to the security council is the only option and i, you know, i want to remind the viewers of apartheid south africa and i'm not going of a direct fair load. but what i want to remind everybody of is that all these
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countries now seeing the prey is nelson, the late, nelson mandela and talked about championing at the taking down the system of apartheid actually resisted fiercely to, to support the dismantling of apartheid. and they were the last to join that bandwagon of the righteous if you will. and nelson mandela was considered a terrorist by the united states and by great britain. and by all these major international western democracies until that was not politically feasible. any more, i don't think we should expect anything different when it comes to israel. having said that, the way this legal, this legal battle is going, you know, inch by inch. it is incremental and it's painstaking. and it's got wrenching and it
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will cost even more palestinian blood and tears. but that is where all these countries are being pushed to. that's the corner where there will be ways where they can't deny facts anymore. so security council or not, once the verdict is out, there will be a different kind of momentum in the parliament of western democracies that respect themselves. that have to face the facts and try to find a way to be consistent with their actions in similar situations with their own laws, which they're now violating in order to stand with israel and give it political cover and make it you know, a country above the law that is really exceptional, as it will be, hard to maintain. okay, once a legal definition of israeli colonialism is handed duff. bill let's, let's, let's look at the bigger picture, the international community. the americans said that they were looking for to see these talks resume between the palestinians. and these rad is those talks broke
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down in 2014, you have now is well with us most far, white government. how do you see the future more uncertainty, more fears of instability? well, i think the future is uncertain. as i said, we are entering into the realm of the unknown and the i know i do think there is going to be much more instability. i do think that the pressure will increase as a result of this boat. i think that increasingly israel will find itself condemned. i hope because if little democracy is anything and it has any value, then it will step forward, violent and condemned. what israel is as a state is doing, i think it's a very, it's a very difficult road. and we've already heard from king abdullah and jordan. he
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said there are red lines. you know, if, if there's an attempt to change the status that the only sites in jerusalem, that's a red line for him. there are many people in the region amongst them authoritarians who are very close to the is really that close. and then you do not want to see instability. i think that will be a pressure point as well. i hope that these various forces will combine to cause israel to think again. and this is what this decision is saying. i think again, you are an occupying force. you are destroying not only palestinian lines you're destroying what is left of this really democracy with people and israel will pick up that challenge and speak up as well. i hope they will. thank you for sure. we have to leave the dead ill segment below. i really appreciate you decide to look forward to talking to you in the future. thank you. thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website,
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