this is what's other with long term residents of the camp, like vivian cassie said, getting into the settlement doesn't mean an end of suffering phone you arrivals. she says dealing with a neighboring community can also be a big challenge. so that will go to feature fail to brochure because of a lack of funding. monthly food ration have been cut by half and few here have the resources and skills to start a business with more refugees fleeing the fighting in english. speaking cameroon, humanitarian agencies are struggling to cope. last year alone, $20000.00 new arrivals have been officially registered by the united nations, but with donors pledging less money, humanitarian workers face a funding shortfall of at least 60 percent of vicious acknowledge. many children here can be educated as a neighborhood. schools are overcrowded. it's not possible to accommodate all and

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bringing the news to the world from here. and $23.00 fighters say they are pulling out of town and east and democratic republic of congo. but an earlier from is to withdraw from another town called a sham by the congolese army conflict. has force many people to flee the region and the un investigation has documented widespread human rights abuses. so what are the prospects for a lasting peace? this is inside story. ah ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. hopes for peace or another false dog. that's what people are asking in democratic republic of congo. where m 23 fighters have pledged to leave room and garbo. that's the town with

a large military base in the east. but the congress army. there's a similar pledge to quit. another strategic town can bomba in december hasn't happened since the m 23 group emerged more than a decade ago. conflict in the country has killed thousands of people. it was dormant for some time before returning a year ago, taking control of territory. hundreds of thousands of being forced to flee. the violence on the un says human rights abuses of widespread rolanda is widely understood to support the m $23.00. but it's something kicked. ali denied patrick maria contemporary is the mentor of communication and media for democratic republic of congo. he told algebra he believed the latest promise by m to 23. 40 to pull out will be fulfilled because of the extent of negotiations involved beforehand. we strong belief that gender, why not? because one guy, he's the one acting beyond 23 will see respect for me. we meant to get her for

missing and by the end portal being the representation made by all unit by order countries, nations united states, french or spanish, or germany, or this country being run on it as president, asking them to respect. would they agree on wonder process? it beat back in the town, but believe not to be done. that's the only way we can avoid using forces will be discussing the prospects for peace with our guests and just a few moments. but 1st, catherine saw reports on the hopes raised by the m 23, the latest promise of a withdrawal. this is a very significant move in the d. r. c. the military base. so we're talking about is very strategic. it had been taken over by empty rebels, they were using it for their logistics and operations. and basically,

what has been happening is that mt rebels have been withdrawing from some of the territories that they had been occupying. they say that this is because of goodwill that they want to show the government because they want to negotiate with the government. they particularly want to go back to agreement that was made several years ago, which included into bracing the rebels in the army. now we have spoken to government officials who are saying that this will never happen. a civil society group that we've been talking to. i said that they are sceptical because on the one hand the rebels is saying that they are committed to withdrawing from these territory. that was the whole day. but on the other hand,

you're also seeing ongoing a fighting between m 23, the government and initiative that are allied to the government. so many people are saying that they are, you feel war people are still being displayed. people are running away from their home with your mind, just try to go back to the home village. but then it was impossible for him to do that because of the security situation. so he had to go back to the com to the situation is still very fluid. indeed. all estimates of the numbers have been killed in violence in east and democratic republic of congo since the late 19 ninety's, very with some sang more than 5000000 people have died. many groups have been engaged in fighting, notably the march 23 movement or m. 23. it's a rebel military group based in the eastern areas of d, r. c, mainly in the province of north kiva. region rich in natural resources is

leadership is made up of members of the truancy ethnic group. they say their aim is to fight groups founded by hutus and federal wonder. after the genocide in 1994, the rebels merged with the congolese army under a 2009 piece deal. but in 2012, they said the agreement had not been upheld and broke away. all in a 120 other rebel groups also operates in the region. ah, well let's bring in our guests now. jaffar alika tanti is a reporter based and democratic republic of congo, or d. r. c. he joins us via skype from goma. 20th from nairobi is john webber, singer. he's a d r. c researcher at amnesty international. and felix and the hinder who's from d. r. c. as a consultant and research of focusing on conflict, peace and justice in the great lakes region, he joins us from til back in the netherlands of

a warm welcome to all of you. at jaffar is the withdrawal of m. 23 from rowman gab. gabriella, is it going to happen? i don't have much information on what is going to go, except that communication from am to 3 and from the it doesn't come go minutes original falls. and the 3 is live in the city today. but he didn't want generally to call the ceremony. we don't have, we still don't have much information at the moment. maybe let, we'll get it back on ground here and go. many people don't believe in what is going on because last time in december and to 3 and now is withdraw from cuba and the original for a complaint. i am leaving you a. 2 and media coverage,

but when i did it from cuba decided to return back to their city. they found am $10.00 to $3.00 in cuba. so people in go my think this is a joke, a how it's somehow to job with government is people, let's know the ones that enter into 3 is leaving the page area. and for sure, they are not move in for anything and women room and kappa is a strategic town. is this the military base that and indeed is just one hour drive from where you are in going yes. remember is important. it's a bit far from going about in the se, bronner's, an urban garbo, for not q who is the biggest military bell. so when you see lofty, whoa, whoa, there be guest bill. it was luck. someone who love is capital city for

privacy. and if l 23 we live, remember for sure this will be a big news for gama is people and this is what's going on. people are waiting for they don't to us because when they say. busy they're living, they leave gibber, they get it live cable, number of people say, felix and i handle. why was am 23 say that it is leaving these places at this point in time? i think there was a coalition of such as absurd, made make that happen. i get up 1st in, in recent waits we saw ah, images of congress of the shows meeting of the officials of the m 23. i'm something that i've been most of the time that i've got something that would not happen and transfer having been framed as it every single part. so on. but we see

congress official army commanders land meeting with him pretty 3 involved in some negotiations which have been kept. moralists is secretive now and we know that this was more advertised by m 23 rather than the official college government. now the other part is of course we have already the presence of the regional force through their east african community. our source which are they are to monitor but also peer representing some kind of pressure even if they are not been kept forcefully. operational, i'm side of course, so quite a number of all pressure has been did in recent circles, nations by your question, number of western countries, especially towards run to supporting m 23. so what's a number of polish factors that may mean that probably withdraw might end up happening? wouldn't necessarily be today. but with that in that we keep this in mind. you the facts about the room and what you want plants, but it's

a story about m 2015. ok 5 is quite large. i'm if i remember very well on backward . he probably can count on that. but if i remember correctly, montgomery was occupied up to an initial attack by, by the, what is i was trying to, to, to, to, to, to take over actually occupied by age, by counsel for the church. i go by empty, preach, but the accounts are fussy, fade. so in that sense entrance, i think it was also already traits that, that where they have to come back to you by all of that or just move whether or not m 23 actually withdraws from these areas. we must bear in mind not me, that they have been defeated before, and they have lain dormant only to re emerge again. what's to say that's not going to repeat. yes,

that's not actually the. a good question. i. 10 years ago, i am 23 captured gomer. and then they withdrew from gomer from the town of grammar. before they were tucked in and defeated me literally, from other towns around come. so whether they withdraw all don't withdraw from roman garbo interviewer. the question that we have to ask ourselves is, why did they capture these towns in 1st place? so what has been soft? they have been calling for negotiations direct negotiations with years. the government which continues to refuse to sit down with them. they wanna communicate, which is which infantry says is implementing by withdrawing from these towns, said they should go back to the areas around the border with rhonda where

the where, based by november 2021 in lind under that condition. the colonies government may consider engaging in talks with them. so we are still far from there because while there withdrawing our from the outs create a outskirts of gama, they are also capturing new cities and new towns in the north near the border. we shoot gander um, but at the end of the day the question is really addressing the causes of entered history in other and groups in east india or c. and so far we are still extremely away from, from the objective. and these causes include on us from our perspective, the necessity to address the endemic impunity or crimes committed. indeed, the over the past to 6 years,

but also making the ddr program to do some of the disarmament and the mobilization program walk and also addressing other concerns including local governors of land nash, natural resources, identity and other and other issues. so as long as these issues will not have been addressed, they might withdraw by the could actually come back on later on. as on whether you bring up an awful lot of points there less acts i let her pick up the point of impunity. a jaffar, hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced by the latest fighting, horrific reports of rate of slaughter. but this is abused that people have suffered in this area for decades. why do these crimes happen with impunity?

ah, it's very complicated situation because, you know, 1st just see has an ethnic problems since long time and on ethnic group is our militia, and they call it brought the rocket fence falls. so i'm going to 3 as rebellion, which is supported by rhonda. what color is the say is, and then i me, old on your militia in the region. so there is no i can it be, it's come back. many people to talk about coalition of government. so government, soldiers and militia that coalition doesn't exist, but there are, there are some militia which are called local defense militia who are fighting against l. 23 to, to protect their own communities. war is not

a good thing because f d. c worked but not to fight against, enter the 3 and against militia. and one more thing, you know, this situation is or so becoming complicated to the congress. gov met because during the night all the dogs on the leash out was invited such as young tora and my group. but after that they did it then. and i think that this withdrawal is a way to boost the government of v r c to and they will share it in the table with because they still fighting in other cities lot. yesterday they took the control over your media and then day before yesterday and the 3 was fighting to shout. so they are fighting in other places and

they live in some other places. okay, though i think this is definitely co 3 to go just to negotiate with them. okay. and it also seems to be quite effective as not allowing the central government to take control in easton, d r. c. and i wonder felix if fast as part of the problem here, the government in kinshasa is so far away and it simply doesn't have control over this region. it's imposed a state of siege since may 2021, a state of emergency and effect. and yet it still hasn't brought situation under control phoenix on it ever kind of rushing on at least not that many of the problems you have been discussing now or so. we have been discussing about the geography of the last more than 20, yet have really to do with the witness of congress institution,

including the central government in the 1st place and also the, the local governance kind of unit public permissional. and in a lower level, the fact of the about the remains, but you have all of these problems and $2300.00 plus i've got that to my colleague already talked about. i do i do to, to as well. we have the because of, before we do that, created by the fit, which is been, has been simply incapable of exerting bad monopoly of violence that we know if it is their prerogative of extent beyond. the monopoly of course, is that the step has just been really pretty much obvious center, even other cities. what kind of way can involved in fact period kind of struggle. how much of the, the key was really hot. once you get to the periphery, and they have to paraphrase, not only even in the last 20 years, but when i look into academic kind of work that it use in my, onward,

it's even been before under the late yes, of the mobile to era. so because of his options, of, of course, that the last week i got faith, you're healthy, proliferation of these groups wins, fill the void, and i need my, like a little bit what i think some of the points that have med, there's a lot of dependent reports about how the document that how the government's own and don't have a policy or individual kind of member what kind of sort of march. and we did it in the army to supply weapon, but sometimes intervene in cooperation with some of the because it i 2nd given narrative. so, so that function, for example, there is this issue is mentioned about identity issues about or to tones on october to people who do not belong was a communist narratives in north and south. he walked on, we know now he has been did ask for the you, and a lot of your under speaking population are all kind of and some together as being entreated 3 and be happy to be shipped out of the country. there had been quite

a lot of acts of targeting specific communities, even if members of other communities suffer in all of this. we've only krause. so with that in mind, this tends to really has been a part of really the problem and will be unable to exert power. exert control and have institution in close to the 30 and kind of is it for protection equal rights and equals. so let's say program gives us the social is on the verge of to throw in . so that makes the east africa community is now going to send a regional force with troops coming from various other countries. is that a good idea? so is it a good idea? or a bad idea i wouldn't be able to answer that question. 1 at least from our perspective of the human rights organization. but it is clear that there is no military response to the, to the situation in it's in your see, the problem you need and yours is preliminarily political. and also, you know,

as i said in terms of human rights, you know, addressing impunity which concerns many point your see. but others also in the region, iran die and burundi in uganda and other countries that have been involved in the coffee to me and your, you know, in the years you for the last 2 digits. so the problem being political, it should also be addressed politically. but this doesn't mean the endless and useless talks, like what we saw in robi a couple of weeks ago. which seems like a joke. it has to be serious, you know, identifying the real problems and dealing with them appropriate in an effective way. because in the past, we have political agreements signed,

sometimes guaranteeing impunity for these criminals, and that has not allowed the situation to improve nina. so while this is the solution should be political mainly that each each will also be taken more seriously drunk lessons from the failures of the past. now on the military side it's, it's pretty rugged to use military force and even invites, you know, foreign countries to intervene. but our only demand of human rights organization is that any user force should be done in, in alignment we saw international law. so whether it is to convert least army or, or enter into 3 or the eastern african community regional force, or even the un peacekeeping mission, they all should abide by international law and prioritize protection of. yeah,

absolutely. and on that note to far, we haven't really touched on the un peacekeeping mission monasco. it's been that since 1999 is one of the world's largest and most expensive missions. why has it failed to keep the peace? the un mission? i think they failed because the child's many times their mandates, but nothing was done now for sure. for that population, for example, in a, in, in 1998, when more school chem there was filled on 100 on the group in the r c. no day we have. busy hundreds and more groups just isn't part of the athlete. and now people are mistrust or un,

i don't think they can succeed anymore because no, i don't like them if they go. if you talk with local people, you'll see that they all don't believe on un. and i don't think they can succeed when locals doesn't trust in them. and no way that is done for gun regional falls, if them monday, will it be different than what they have? because i've said more bay since they came there is not anything of military and government for all the. busy if the can community regional falls and on roku. yes, it was a spread seeing on that because when gunning for people. oh, it didn't go so that they come to friday to engage against m $23.00 and another rebel groups. and now they are talking and not fighting. and the

same moment i can still ongoing other jones in other very tories and other provinces. and that i, we do have in our discussions to apologies for interrupting you that we have run out of time to find out catan t as on my best nga and felix. and i hope that thank you very much for joining us today. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. there's our dessert dot com for further discussion. do go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha. inside story. you close it during the conversation on twitter. let's add a j inside story. from me laura kyle and the whole team here. bye for now. a

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